Good grief, yes we know. Either report the thread and/or apply for a moderator's position, but stop lecturing people without contributing anything. This applies to all people who did so up to this point.
But.....but.....don't you know?
It's a long lasting tradition on the STO fora that when someone posts, let's say, an "I quit" thread for example that there will be 200 people replying with "I b4 lock" and 200 more replying that "posting 'I quit' threads is forbidden", even after they clearly saw the first, second, third, etc., guy/gal's response with the same answer they're going to respond with. Same goes in cases like this one. Too many wanabee moderators around here - too many people with too much free time, I say.
What are you referring to? That it's pulled out instead of tucked inside or....?
That sounds dirtier than it's supposed to be, I guess. Anyway, yes, the Prometheus has the issue of the "mini nacelle" from the upper section not disappearing when the ship rejoins. It has been reported as a bug for some time now. given that it's present on the promo pictures I figured it's not a bug anymore but supposed to be there. A weird, miniature shuttle nacelle sticking out from the bridge module
But.....but.....don't you know?
It's a long lasting tradition on the STO fora that when someone posts, let's say, an "I quit" thread for example that there will be 200 people replying with "I b4 lock" and 200 more replying that "posting 'I quit' threads is forbidden", even after they clearly saw the first, second, third, etc., guy/gal's response with the same answer they're going to respond with. Same goes in cases like this one. Too many wanabee moderators around here - too many people with too much free time, I say.
Sometimes, traditions need to die...
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
If Command Hybrid was on one of the Tact slots and/or the Tact Ensign was universal, I would be far more interested. I have no issue with it being a command ship, just the other aspects of the Boff seating.
If it was Pilot it would compete with the Icarus and coming defiant.
I'll be happy to keep using my T5U Fleet MVAE, Ajax, and Icarus.
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Anyway, yes, the Prometheus has the issue of the "mini nacelle" from the upper section not disappearing when the ship rejoins. It has been reported as a bug for some time now. given that it's present on the promo pictures I figured it's not a bug anymore but supposed to be there. A weird, miniature shuttle nacelle sticking out from the bridge module
Yeah, I asked because there was a player in the official reply thread about this that said there is an option in the ship customizer for the positioning of the mini nacelle. I have no idea whether that influences it's positioning after being rejoined.
Kahless would post in both threads and laugh at the attempts to stop him.
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Good grief, yes we know. Either report the thread and/or apply for a moderator's position, but stop lecturing people without contributing anything. This applies to all people who did so up to this point.
But.....but.....don't you know?
It's a long lasting tradition on the STO fora that when someone posts, let's say, an "I quit" thread for example that there will be 200 people replying with "I b4 lock" and 200 more replying that "posting 'I quit' threads is forbidden", even after they clearly saw the first, second, third, etc., guy/gal's response with the same answer they're going to respond with. Same goes in cases like this one. Too many wanabee moderators around here - too many people with too much free time, I say.
Looks damn sexy but I wonder if it will be on par with the pilot escorts. Lets be real here, like the command cruisers did with their class those little wonders set the bar for escorts pretty dang high.
As nice as the Hestia may look I wonder if it lands in the same spot where the T6 Gal & Excel already are, nice for the eye but already outperformed by those who came before.
The Pilot Escorts for all the factions are simply too good.
Seeing the stats of the T6 Prometheus, I think of her in the same way as the T6 Galaxy, Excelsior, Negh'Var, D'Deridex, Intrepid were: Logical T6 improvements of the Fleet T5U versions. I would not call them as "BUY ME NAU" ships because of being so powerful. They're more moderate in power. I think of them as ships that are improvements of the old T5 ones so fans of those ships could move onto T6 with their favorite designs.
The ADV escort teir 6 should have 5 and 3 weapons , and 1 of the other tac bo seats as a universal ,you gave us a under weaponed teir 5 escort ,The command LtC seat is good but we need eng powers as well ,3 bo seats is not enough room for our eng bo and new command powers ,thats why you need to make the Lt tac seat universal,I love this ship its my favite Fed ship , to stay competive it needs 5 weapons up front 4 and 3 will make this a 1 week throw away ship ,,The players that love this ship want it to be our main ship but the patrol and pilot will be a stronger ship as is ,,,please dont blow off my feed back ,,and make the changes so it will be the ship we love ,And i hope you guys fixed the muti vec console , last i knew the speed bonus was not working .........some of us are still mad about the Heav Escort carrier the klingons and romulans getting better ship than feds did,, PLEASE DONT MESS OUR ADV ESCORT UP TOO dont give us throw away ship,,,,, take our players feedback before you come out with new ships, to many new ship have a achilles heel,,,thx 4 a great game .ps pvp needs love,,,
Now they revealed the Stats, I found it to be lacking.
And I don't understand why the Dev Team doesn't want to comment on why they're naming it the Hestia. Is this a sign they aren't going to make a T6 Vesta?
Now they revealed the Stats, I found it to be lacking.
And I don't understand why the Dev Team doesn't want to comment on why they're naming it the Hestia. Is this a sign they aren't going to make a T6 Vesta?
I wouldn't read too much into the name change. Hestia being a Greek myth has slightly more connection to Prometheus (all of the Prometheus sub-classes have some kind of connection to fire as well - Hestia fits that pattern) than it does to the Roman version. If we get a T6 Vesta class they'll probably retain the Roman naming convention instead and call it... I dunno, Caelian-class, to follow the Aventine naming convention.
The ADV escort teir 6 should have 5 and 3 weapons , and 1 of the other tac bo seats as a universal ,you gave us a under weaponed teir 5 escort ,The command LtC seat is good but we need eng powers as well ,3 bo seats is not enough room for our eng bo and new command powers ,thats why you need to make the Lt tac seat universal,I love this ship its my favite Fed ship , to stay competive it needs 5 weapons up front 4 and 3 will make this a 1 week throw away ship ,,The players that love this ship want it to be our main ship but the patrol and pilot will be a stronger ship as is ,,,please dont blow off my feed back ,,and make the changes so it will be the ship we love ,And i hope you guys fixed the muti vec console , last i knew the speed bonus was not working .........some of us are still mad about the Heav Escort carrier the klingons and romulans getting better ship than feds did,, PLEASE DONT MESS OUR ADV ESCORT UP TOO dont give us throw away ship,,,,, take our players feedback before you come out with new ships, to many new ship have a achilles heel,,,thx 4 a great game .ps pvp needs love,,,
Setting aside the fact that this block of text is the longest run-on sentence in grammar history.. you have some good points.
I was surprised at the BoFF seating on this ship, and ultimately I believe it's going to put the Hestia in the same category as the Andromeda and the Resolute. The ship is outclassed before even being released, I can't really see any reason anyone would get this ship aside from just being in love with the Prometheus Class. The Tactical BoFF seating is way overboard, it forces you to run Torpedos or a Cannon/DBB build in order to avoid wasting BoFF slots. Putting the Command on the only Engineering Station is also a big swing and a miss as it forces you to use one of your already highly limited Engineering slots in favor of Command. It would have made far more sense to make one of those tactical slots the Command Hybrid. That would allow you to still use the full Lt. Commander Engineering and you would have plenty of slots to mix Command powers with your Tactical Stations. At the very least, the Ensign station should have been a Universal to allow some flexibility. You could then use that station for Engineering to allow you to fit in a Command skill or two.
Overall, the layout just shows me that once again, Cryptic doesn't really understand how people play their game or how ships are generally built. This ship is 2 days from release and is already outdated and totally outclassed. Why anyone would buy this over a Pilot ship is beyond me, especially considering that the Pilot ships come at Fleet Quality without extra purchase.
The Hestia is a classic example of how not to make a T6 ship. It's only upside is the fact that it's a Prometheus, and it's asking a lot to expect people to pay 3k Zen just for that.
Now they revealed the Stats, I found it to be lacking.
And I don't understand why the Dev Team doesn't want to comment on why they're naming it the Hestia. Is this a sign they aren't going to make a T6 Vesta?
I wouldn't read too much into the name change. Hestia being a Greek myth has slightly more connection to Prometheus (all of the Prometheus sub-classes have some kind of connection to fire as well - Hestia fits that pattern) than it does to the Roman version. If we get a T6 Vesta class they'll probably retain the Roman naming convention instead and call it... I dunno, Caelian-class, to follow the Aventine naming convention.
Hmm.... Vesta/Aventine/Rademaker is the current name. Maybe Diana?
After seeing the stats I have to say this ship is pretty terrible.
Well, it's a cash-shop ship. I'm pretty sure they factor in that you can get this ship on all of your toons and future toons. Single ships are mediocre, pack ships are playable and of course promo ships are enjoyable lol.
I wouldn't worry about the name much. One of the pilot escorts is called Mercury and one of the patrol escort variant is Hermes. Either devs do not care about the Greek/Roman variants, or they never heard about it, because it was not part of their general education. But it won't matter much. Vesta sales were great, a T6 variant is surely comming.
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Now they revealed the Stats, I found it to be lacking.
And I don't understand why the Dev Team doesn't want to comment on why they're naming it the Hestia. Is this a sign they aren't going to make a T6 Vesta?
I wouldn't read too much into the name change. Hestia being a Greek myth has slightly more connection to Prometheus (all of the Prometheus sub-classes have some kind of connection to fire as well - Hestia fits that pattern) than it does to the Roman version. If we get a T6 Vesta class they'll probably retain the Roman naming convention instead and call it... I dunno, Caelian-class, to follow the Aventine naming convention.
That might be something.
The ship class is Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, one class is named Vesta, one class Aventine, and one Rademaker. The naming theme doesn't really limit things to the Roman godess. Another roman hill could work, or even the name
The names of the Advanced Escort variants however suggest a link to fire, which Hestia also provides.
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After seeing the stats I have to say this ship is pretty terrible.
It's not terrible, it's your default STO ship that can slot everything that's currently desireable. The problem is that Cryptic released the pilot ships which are basically invulnerable all the time. Hard to beat that. Yet, funny enough, I personally (which is by no means representative) don't think I have been teamed with more than two pilot ships since they came out.
Great......now I'll never consider getting the ship, too distracting. -.-
Sorry about that Guys and their starships Usually I don't get all the "remarks" people have about starship silhouettes or parts there of, aside from the bulwark which I can identify as being enjoyable
Yeah, I asked because there was a player in the official reply thread about this that said there is an option in the ship customizer for the positioning of the mini nacelle. I have no idea whether that influences it's positioning after being rejoined.
I read that as well which is why I was curious in the first place. I never spotted that option, then again I don't have a prometheus (only the free variants) and I think they don't have that little problm at all. In any case I think that shuttle nacelle randomly placed on the hull is... not a very good decision. The quad-nacelle design was chosen so the lower parts both stay warp capable, the top segment is in the same position as a Galaxy saucer and basically stuck with impulse. Gluing a broken off shuttle nacelle there won't change that, especially since that also means the ship has three warp cores, one of them cramped somewhere in the command module? None of that makes sense.
You'll get no argument from me there, especially in those cases.
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I dunno targ the boff layout is pretty bad. Overloaded with tac and they make sure you can't do anything with those tac stations by making the already limited engineering station command instead. Most of the canon ship's in this game are outclassed. In the this case by the pilot escorts. Only reason to get this ship is because you like the way it looks.
It has no improvements compared to any one of the pilot escorts, which are better in every way.
Dead on arrival.
Meh. The steady demand for "I win buttons" on new ships is kinda annoying. You are correct that the pilot escorts are just ridiculous with their invulnerability features, but that still doesn't mean the T6 Prometheus is "DoA".
People complained that the T6 Galaxy was DoA or the T6 Intrepid a piece of junk because they didn't provide that button. Yet, I see more Galaxies, Negh'Vars, D'Ds or Intrepids than I see pilot escorts or command cruisers. Canon ships will always sell and they provide the possiblity to continue your style of gameplay when you liked the previous versions of the ship. Sure, for people just pushing numbers that would use a flying outhouse if it came with a "I win button" the T6 upgrades of canon ships are indeed worthless, I guess.
I dunno targ the boff layout is pretty bad. Overloaded with tac and they make sure you can't do anything with those tac stations by making the already limited engineering station command instead. Most of the canon ship's in this game are outclassed. In the this case by the pilot escorts. Only reason to get this ship is because you like the way it looks.
Or you liked the ship before and just want to make your style of gameplay work with it. As I wrote above, the steady demand for superior ships further feeds power creep and seeds bursting bubbles of expectations when it wouldn't be necessary in the first place. The game is already "sick", further pushing it will not improve the issues it has at all. But not only the users but also Cryptic has to take this to heart...
EDIT: For example, one of the ships I can't wait to get my hooves on the most is a T6 Nebula. And I want to be the T5 Nebula with one upgraded BOFF station and a specialization hybrid, which depending on how it turns out, I might not even use, no fancy I win buttons because this is the ship I like.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
It has no improvements compared to any one of the pilot escorts, which are better in every way.
Dead on arrival.
Meh. The steady demand for "I win buttons" on new ships is kinda annoying. You are correct that the pilot escorts are just ridiculous with their invulnerability features, but that still doesn't mean the T6 Prometheus is "DoA".
People complained that the T6 Galaxy was DoA or the T6 Intrepid a piece of junk because they didn't provide that button. Yet, I see more Galaxies, Negh'Vars, D'Ds or Intrepids than I see pilot escorts or command cruisers. Canon ships will always sell and they provide the possiblity to continue your style of gameplay when you liked the previous versions of the ship. Sure, for people just pushing numbers that would use a flying outhouse if it came with a "I win button" the T6 upgrades of canon ships are indeed worthless, I guess.
Sure, but the correct way to manage power creep isn't to release yet more ships that are objectively worse than existing ones.
Was the Prometheus ever that popular really? It wasn't an iconic ship fans went nuts over was it?
Sure, but the correct way to manage power creep isn't to release yet more ships that are objectively worse than existing ones.
Was the Prometheus ever that popular really? It wasn't an iconic ship fans went nuts over was it?
Hard to say. To me it isn't, I don't like the pointy spearhead designs Trek ships evolved to, but I think it always had a fanbase like any canon design. I agree with your remark about power creep, but releasing more powerful ships in a turnus of weeks isn't the answer either. But I don't think Cryptic really gets that issue under control, it's their source of revenue. Their own original designs need to set the bar to new heights in order to sell to the "gamers" and the canon designs sell anyway because of the residual "Trekkers" still playing.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
It has no improvements compared to any one of the pilot escorts, which are better in every way.
Dead on arrival.
Meh. The steady demand for "I win buttons" on new ships is kinda annoying. You are correct that the pilot escorts are just ridiculous with their invulnerability features, but that still doesn't mean the T6 Prometheus is "DoA".
People complained that the T6 Galaxy was DoA or the T6 Intrepid a piece of junk because they didn't provide that button. Yet, I see more Galaxies, Negh'Vars, D'Ds or Intrepids than I see pilot escorts or command cruisers. Canon ships will always sell and they provide the possiblity to continue your style of gameplay when you liked the previous versions of the ship. Sure, for people just pushing numbers that would use a flying outhouse if it came with a "I win button" the T6 upgrades of canon ships are indeed worthless, I guess.
Was the Prometheus ever that popular really? It wasn't an iconic ship fans went nuts over was it?
Well no but back at the time, many levels of power creep ago, it belonged to the very few ships which had a proper boff layout for No Win Scenario. I loved and got the predecessor because of it. But already the Chel Grett had a better one and replaced it.
If the updated version only had a universal ensign and/or a lt. tac hybrid seat… but with the current stats no thank you.
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The problem is cryptic sets the creep bar and for escorts they set that bar stupid high with the pilot escorts. All ship's are not created equal and this one is subpar at best.
As you said it may still sell well because it's a canon ship.
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What are you referring to? That it's pulled out instead of tucked inside or....?
But.....but.....don't you know?
It's a long lasting tradition on the STO fora that when someone posts, let's say, an "I quit" thread for example that there will be 200 people replying with "I b4 lock" and 200 more replying that "posting 'I quit' threads is forbidden", even after they clearly saw the first, second, third, etc., guy/gal's response with the same answer they're going to respond with. Same goes in cases like this one. Too many wanabee moderators around here - too many people with too much free time, I say.
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That sounds dirtier than it's supposed to be, I guess. Anyway, yes, the Prometheus has the issue of the "mini nacelle" from the upper section not disappearing when the ship rejoins. It has been reported as a bug for some time now. given that it's present on the promo pictures I figured it's not a bug anymore but supposed to be there. A weird, miniature shuttle nacelle sticking out from the bridge module
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If it was Pilot it would compete with the Icarus and coming defiant.
I'll be happy to keep using my T5U Fleet MVAE, Ajax, and Icarus.
Great......now I'll never consider getting the ship, too distracting. -.-
Yeah, I asked because there was a player in the official reply thread about this that said there is an option in the ship customizer for the positioning of the mini nacelle. I have no idea whether that influences it's positioning after being rejoined.
You'll get no argument from me there, especially in those cases.
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I can't see it.
It reads:
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The Pilot Escorts for all the factions are simply too good.
Seeing the stats of the T6 Prometheus, I think of her in the same way as the T6 Galaxy, Excelsior, Negh'Var, D'Deridex, Intrepid were: Logical T6 improvements of the Fleet T5U versions. I would not call them as "BUY ME NAU" ships because of being so powerful. They're more moderate in power. I think of them as ships that are improvements of the old T5 ones so fans of those ships could move onto T6 with their favorite designs.
There. I said it.
And I don't understand why the Dev Team doesn't want to comment on why they're naming it the Hestia. Is this a sign they aren't going to make a T6 Vesta?
Setting aside the fact that this block of text is the longest run-on sentence in grammar history.. you have some good points.
I was surprised at the BoFF seating on this ship, and ultimately I believe it's going to put the Hestia in the same category as the Andromeda and the Resolute. The ship is outclassed before even being released, I can't really see any reason anyone would get this ship aside from just being in love with the Prometheus Class. The Tactical BoFF seating is way overboard, it forces you to run Torpedos or a Cannon/DBB build in order to avoid wasting BoFF slots. Putting the Command on the only Engineering Station is also a big swing and a miss as it forces you to use one of your already highly limited Engineering slots in favor of Command. It would have made far more sense to make one of those tactical slots the Command Hybrid. That would allow you to still use the full Lt. Commander Engineering and you would have plenty of slots to mix Command powers with your Tactical Stations. At the very least, the Ensign station should have been a Universal to allow some flexibility. You could then use that station for Engineering to allow you to fit in a Command skill or two.
Overall, the layout just shows me that once again, Cryptic doesn't really understand how people play their game or how ships are generally built. This ship is 2 days from release and is already outdated and totally outclassed. Why anyone would buy this over a Pilot ship is beyond me, especially considering that the Pilot ships come at Fleet Quality without extra purchase.
The Hestia is a classic example of how not to make a T6 ship. It's only upside is the fact that it's a Prometheus, and it's asking a lot to expect people to pay 3k Zen just for that.
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Well, it's a cash-shop ship. I'm pretty sure they factor in that you can get this ship on all of your toons and future toons. Single ships are mediocre, pack ships are playable and of course promo ships are enjoyable lol.
The ship class is Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer, one class is named Vesta, one class Aventine, and one Rademaker. The naming theme doesn't really limit things to the Roman godess. Another roman hill could work, or even the name
The names of the Advanced Escort variants however suggest a link to fire, which Hestia also provides.
It's not terrible, it's your default STO ship that can slot everything that's currently desireable. The problem is that Cryptic released the pilot ships which are basically invulnerable all the time. Hard to beat that. Yet, funny enough, I personally (which is by no means representative) don't think I have been teamed with more than two pilot ships since they came out.
Sorry about that
I read that as well which is why I was curious in the first place. I never spotted that option, then again I don't have a prometheus (only the free variants) and I think they don't have that little problm at all. In any case I think that shuttle nacelle randomly placed on the hull is... not a very good decision. The quad-nacelle design was chosen so the lower parts both stay warp capable, the top segment is in the same position as a Galaxy saucer and basically stuck with impulse. Gluing a broken off shuttle nacelle there won't change that, especially since that also means the ship has three warp cores, one of them cramped somewhere in the command module? None of that makes sense.
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Dead on arrival.
Meh. The steady demand for "I win buttons" on new ships is kinda annoying. You are correct that the pilot escorts are just ridiculous with their invulnerability features, but that still doesn't mean the T6 Prometheus is "DoA".
People complained that the T6 Galaxy was DoA or the T6 Intrepid a piece of junk because they didn't provide that button. Yet, I see more Galaxies, Negh'Vars, D'Ds or Intrepids than I see pilot escorts or command cruisers. Canon ships will always sell and they provide the possiblity to continue your style of gameplay when you liked the previous versions of the ship. Sure, for people just pushing numbers that would use a flying outhouse if it came with a "I win button" the T6 upgrades of canon ships are indeed worthless, I guess.
Or you liked the ship before and just want to make your style of gameplay work with it. As I wrote above, the steady demand for superior ships further feeds power creep and seeds bursting bubbles of expectations when it wouldn't be necessary in the first place. The game is already "sick", further pushing it will not improve the issues it has at all. But not only the users but also Cryptic has to take this to heart...
EDIT: For example, one of the ships I can't wait to get my hooves on the most is a T6 Nebula. And I want to be the T5 Nebula with one upgraded BOFF station and a specialization hybrid, which depending on how it turns out, I might not even use, no fancy I win buttons because this is the ship I like.
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Sure, but the correct way to manage power creep isn't to release yet more ships that are objectively worse than existing ones.
Was the Prometheus ever that popular really? It wasn't an iconic ship fans went nuts over was it?
Hard to say. To me it isn't, I don't like the pointy spearhead designs Trek ships evolved to, but I think it always had a fanbase like any canon design. I agree with your remark about power creep, but releasing more powerful ships in a turnus of weeks isn't the answer either. But I don't think Cryptic really gets that issue under control, it's their source of revenue. Their own original designs need to set the bar to new heights in order to sell to the "gamers" and the canon designs sell anyway because of the residual "Trekkers" still playing.
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Well no but back at the time, many levels of power creep ago, it belonged to the very few ships which had a proper boff layout for No Win Scenario. I loved and got the predecessor because of it. But already the Chel Grett had a better one and replaced it.
If the updated version only had a universal ensign and/or a lt. tac hybrid seat… but with the current stats no thank you.
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As you said it may still sell well because it's a canon ship.