What is your overall impression of the Iconian War?

thegrandnagus1

With today's release of the finale episode of the Iconian War, what is your overall impression of the war storyline as a whole?

The poll choices are a simple 1-5 star choice, with 1 being the worst and 5 being the best. Whatever option you choose, please explain why.

markhawkman

(*****)5 star = best

Note: this vote is based on comparing it with the other story arcs in STO.

comrademoco

(***)3 star

My vote is compared based on the feeling of actually being in war in the game which. was... not present... only the Tales of War showed a constant war.

Nonetheless the Episodes were FANTASTIC... but the overall feel of being in war... meh...

hypl

(***)3 star

It was average. There was a lot of impressive technical and visual work put into this arc, but it ultimately falls flat on it's rushed plot and typical "status quo" resolution.

Then again Star Trek does this all the time...

welcome2earf

There's a war going on? I got some neat missions and some blog posts, but I see no war going on in the game or when I'm in sector space.

thay8472

(***)3 star

There were some good episodes in there.

Uneasy allies: 4 stars
Blood of the Ancients: 5 stars
Delta Flight: 3 stars
House of Pagh: 3 stars
Time in a Bottle: 5 stars
Broken Circle: 2 stars
Butterfly: 1 star (I hate this one)
Midnight: 5 stars

Impressive map designs. But story ... with the exception of "Blood of the Ancients" and the attack in "Broken Circle" ... It never felt like a War.

The Krenim should of had their own Arc... Maybe they still can.

Where were the Elachi?

Undine? Borg? Voth?

Where was the Battlezone? Red Alerts? Patrols? In one of the blogs and "Midnight" it turns out ...

T'Ket had a grudge against the Romulans... New Romulus Battlezone maybe?

gurluas

(****)4 star

4 stars. The story was magnificent, and the episodes were good.
But outside of the episodes you didn't feel the war at all, and the servitor races outside of the heralds were hardly seen at all.

sennahcherib

(***)3 star

3 stars; because there are good and bad episodes. Cryptic studios have done some really good jobs with the heralds (ships, dudes etc), but some episodes are really meh (house peg'h etc). the last episode is very good, and the job done is really nice + multiple choices for the replies.

cidjack

I'll vote as soon as I start it.

bioixi

(**)2 star

it's not as bad as the Cardassian arc, but the campaign is full of plot holes and poor storytelling, it feels forced as if the developers were pushed to rush content, I was expecting a war but the Dyson or the delta arcs feel more like a war that this one.

Really disappointing, not 1 star because that's reserved for the Cardassian arc, so 2 stars.

ladytiamat666

(**)2 star

A war that almost never gives me the impression to be a war in game (no battlezone, no red alerts, and so on) and a plot far too inspired by another sci-fi tv series.

soundwisdom

(***)3 star

Still have some foundry missions that are better(sadly).

goodscotch

(*****)5 star = best

I really liked the see-through floors in the Iconian places.

coupaholic

(***)3 star

Middle of the road. With Midnight it ended as well as it could have, albeit quite abruptly.

We still should have seen more of the war however, and I'm still amazed that we never saw a Herald or Iconian Battlezone. Instead it was deemed better to include one in the next update, the one about...exploration?

Cryptic logic can be really confusing sometimes.

EDIT: Might as well throw in my plus points

- Kurland here!

- Kagran. The face turn was pretty sharp sure, and his record is still awful as leaders go, but he is a cool character and I like that he goes out on a positive note.

- Dominion allies. I would have loved to see Eraun or Loriss at least make an appearance alongside Sela with some dialogue though.​​

saurializard

(***)3 star

Underwhelming gameplay-wise, felt very rushed, didn't feel like a war, some plot-induced stupidity occurences, but they managed to do some good missions and the finale salvaged most of the bad stuff (even Kagran!), the Iconians,

while no explained how they got to change so much from kind and helpful to murderous and abusive,

ended up interesting and

tragic

villains.

I hope this isn't the last time we see our six-eyed

new neighbors

and that we'll get to

visit L'Miren again to see how the rebuilding of her civilization is going

.

rooster707

(***)3 star

Overall, meh. I did like the ending though.

drakethewhite

(*)1 star = worst

Just horrible with little to nothing to like at all. A war that wasn't, dire missions that were cake walks, bad plots without any sense whatsoever. Easily the bottom of the barrel for any MMO I've played starting with Everquest.

The only good thing, it's over.

tasshena

(***)3 star

I'll agree, we saw more in tales than we ever did in the episodes, though the episodes were interesting.

Overall 3/5.​​

kirimuffin

(***)3 star

I would rate the arc a 1, if not for the fact that the finale was incredibly satisfying and actually, genuinely felt like Star Trek.

Seriously. What a great episode. Shame it's tied to such a horrible arc.

kavase

Didn't play it so can't vote. I'd like to know more about how people felt of the gameplay instead of the storyline itself.

scrooge69

(****)4 star

why so mayn space sets? whats the point?

also t'ket is a superdipomat and super stubborn!? how does t hat fit

soem missions are reeeeealy borign while others in the arc are super trekky and fun
therefore 4 stars from me

ladytiamat666

(**)2 star

scrooge69 wrote: »

why so mayn space sets? whats the point?

also t'ket is a superdipomat and super stubborn!? how does t hat fit

soem missions are reeeeealy borign while others in the arc are super trekky and fun
therefore 4 stars from me

M'Tara is the superdiplomat, not T'Ket.

kyrrok

(*)1 star = worst

For my own episode by episode rankings (0-5)
*Uneasy Allies: 3 Not a bad way to start what based on the episode held promise of being a great arc.
*Blood of the Ancients: 4 Quite a bit of action balanced out with story.
*Delta Flight: 4 It would have been 5 with more action in space and on the cruiser, but overall rather enjoyable.
*House of Pegh: 2 A bit of action, plenty of story, but without too many details, it went down wrong
*Time in a Bottle: 1 That's a Christmas gift. There was some shooting and relevent story. but too much of it was filler.
*Broken Circle: 0 Dumpster Fire. I cannot justify the reckless dumping of bodies. It was disappointing to fight M'tara only to watch her die spending her last breath for witnesses. Bad plan, bad timing, bad aftermath. Plus a horrible indictment against not just one Klingon but as an example of a species. Now Fed-snobs all over the forum can point to him and say, the galaxy is better off without them. If they actually were Starfleet officers, the type of prejudice legitimized with this would set Federation ethics back nearly half a millenium.
*Butterfly: 0 No I don't count holodeck simulations as part of the action.
*Mignight: 4 There could have been more shoot'em'up at the beginning, but through the rest of it, It's uderstandable.

No battlezone, no red alerts, war blogs being passed off as content. Dominion involvement, check. Undine involvement, nope. I'll give partial credit on involvement of other nations. The war was most underwhelming. That is why I gave this war as a whole it's most well deserved number. 1

artan42

(****)4 star

I kinda liked it, though hardly any more or less than the Delta or Sphere arcs. It lacked the epicness I'd expected but still mostly enjoyable in its own right.​​

laferrari1

It was five stars "Midnight" until the magic collapsed with that senseless outrage of T'Ket, the iconian saying "we are not going to help you because he's one of us if he attacks you, doesn't mind if you saved our race. We also are going to retreat on our own, don't talk to us. Meanwhile. Oh remember our T'Ket bro may declare war at you again".
Then there are some real bad like Butterfly.
Can't cast a vote. Too good and too bad at the same time. The ending of the episode ruined everything.

mustrumridcully0

(****)4 star

The Romulan Arc is definitely superior in writing and content IMO. I really enjoyed that.

The Iconian War doesn't have the writing quality, but I think the overall content is good. What's particularly important about it are that the stakes are high. The Iconian conflict was hinted at since the start of the game, and that if finally reached a conclusion was something that really engaged me in following the arc, and causing me to look forward to the new mission. And then, the stakes were high - the Iconians were a real threat, and the story had us on the losing side and getting desperate - with all kind of moral and ethical implications of our actions.

There are certainly flaws. Some stories could be written better. And if you play the Arc over several months, there is just a lack of accompanying background activity - no Herald Red Alerts, Iconian Battle Zones, DOFFs to really immerse you in the story. But I guess if you actually played through the missions from finish to end, possibly only (if at all) doing the occiasional Iconian Queue, you would probably not experience it like that.​​

risian4

Didn't vote, just want to comment.

The last episode in the arc really had an impact on how I would rate the entire arc. The battle in the Sol system was truly epic, the voice acting, especially at the beginning of the episode, together with the many interruptions from characters of all factions and regions within the game really gave off the impression that the situation was dire. And Kagran's attitude was a very welcome change, it's always nice to see a Klingon who does more than just try to kill everything in sight.

The end was a welcome change too. The dialogue options (and the amount of dialogue and exploring the Iconians in general) were much more enjoyable than just shooting your way through an episode. The choices that were available were really good ones, you have the entire war and all its victims, including an entire species on the one hand, and the Iconians who were more or less victims themselves as well.

All in all, a very enjoyable episode and by far the best episode in the entire arc.

gpgtx

(***)3 star

over all a 3 it was a mixed bag of episodes with some clunkers. but over all the story was not bad and the ending was very trek

jorantomalak

(*)1 star = worst

I didnt like it they kept saying "were losing the war" and "we lost another star system" and "our fleets are being smashed" but i never got that feeling nothing.

No iconian red alerts no herald deep space encounters nothing that said we were losing or in a war for that matter only a few text releases about tales of the war .

I know many will disagree but the fact remains this i felt more at war with the elachi , undine, voth and klingons then i did the iconians.

and worst part is the game as it is still has the overtone of being at war with the klingon empire...i thought that war was over.

Nice try cryptic but next time actually try to make us feel that were at war?!

captainoblivous

(**)2 star

Concept? 5 star. Implementation? 2 star. The eps themselves were okay though they were massively OTT with the melodrama and the VO work tended to be rather flat and robotic.The worst part of it though, was that there was absolutely no feeling at all of any kind of war setting in the game outside of those eps.

saurializard

(***)3 star

risian4 wrote: »

together with the many interruptions from characters of all factions and regions within the game really gave off the impression that the situation was dire.

I liked that, too, as it showed the progression until then.

In Surface Tension, St'aass makes it clear the Federation is the enemy even if they have respect for them but the Undine are worse and Koren begrudgingly accepts to help defend Earth because the Gorn told her to. And if you're a Klingon, you can choose not to help save ESD until Koren tells you.

In Midnight, one StarFleet group is in troubles? A Romulan ship immediately goes to assist them. A SF station is in danger, a Gorn ship changes course to assist without hesitating. Plus, there were several ships from Delta species, and then, the big guys from the Gamma Quadrant, all banding together to hold the line.