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Do you like the idea of "doffing with ships"?
thegrandnagus1
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Today we learned about S11, and the Admiralty system. While there has been speculation about how this system will work, here is what we know:
http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-online-new-dawn
Apparently, the "ships" we will be using in the Admiralty system aren't really the inactive ships in our inventory. Instead, they are something like a doff that only represents the ships we own, and because of this, the stats/gear on the ships we own doesn't really affect the admiralty system. Here are the quotes:
And here is more Admiralty info from Priority One's vegas interview with Al Rivera:
Obviously we don't know all of the specific details of the system, but the above quotes at least lets us know this is "similar" to the duty officer system, rather than having some kind of away team in space. We also know that the "ships" we will be using are not the *actual* ships we own, but something like a doff or playing card that only represents them.
So as a first reaction, do you like the general idea of "doffing with ships"?
And regardless of what answer you choose, please comment and elaborate on your thoughts.
PS: Also, kudos to Stylsy for coming up with this idea a long time ago:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1055680/a-ship-doff-system-for-admirals/p1
That will enable players to utilize ships to complete assignments similar to the current Duty Officer system
http://www.startrek.com/article/star-trek-online-new-dawn
Apparently, the "ships" we will be using in the Admiralty system aren't really the inactive ships in our inventory. Instead, they are something like a doff that only represents the ships we own, and because of this, the stats/gear on the ships we own doesn't really affect the admiralty system. Here are the quotes:
And here is more Admiralty info from Priority One's vegas interview with Al Rivera:
- The admiralty system can be described as an "extension" or an "evolution" of the doff system, but has very different rewards.
- The admiralty system will allow you to acquire/send ships on missions, even though you do not actually own the ship. Al Rivera gave "The Enterprise" as an example, like a "gold foil card" playing card.
- Mission failure will result in damage to ships, and larger ships take longer to repair than smaller ships. You can pay dilithium to speed up the repairs.
Obviously we don't know all of the specific details of the system, but the above quotes at least lets us know this is "similar" to the duty officer system, rather than having some kind of away team in space. We also know that the "ships" we will be using are not the *actual* ships we own, but something like a doff or playing card that only represents them.
So as a first reaction, do you like the general idea of "doffing with ships"?
And regardless of what answer you choose, please comment and elaborate on your thoughts.
PS: Also, kudos to Stylsy for coming up with this idea a long time ago:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1055680/a-ship-doff-system-for-admirals/p1
Do you like the idea of "doffing with ships"? 181 votes
Yes
45%
82 votes
No
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Other
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Been thrilled a few times, and always end up disappointed, so I am going to wait this one out.
The alternative idea I heard was that your BOFF's would somehow command these ships in combat alongside you in your main ship. However, that idea has a serious flaw that no one seemed to consider:
- You would have to outfit every single one of those ships. I don't know about you, but I can't be asked to quadruple my ship gear grind per character to get them good stuff. Most people would raise hell about the grind that ensues.
"DOFFing" with ships is a simple thing, but its better than none. So from me, that's a thumbs-up!
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Seeing that I was around when there was talk from Cryptic about using our existing ships as "away teams in space" and having the ability to upgrade our Boffs as 'Captains' to our away team-ships in space ... -- well, let's just say that what I'm seeing now is one more ambitious idea that seems to have been shrunk down to a more managable copy-paste reality .
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Yes..I like it. I have LOTS of ships
To be clear, we know the basics. We know how the doff system works, and we know we'll be using our old ships on missions now, rather than just duty officers. This poll is simply asking if you like that idea, not if you know every detail about how it will work.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
That being said, I hope it is a little more in depth than the current DOff system. Maybe the system will give us a reason to use idle BOff's and empty BOff slots? Since the BOff power rework, I've found not found it necessary to have more than 6 BOff's for the ships I fly. It would be nice to put some of them in command of my older ships...perhaps the choice of commanding BOff could give you a better chance of success?
Who knows? It's all mere speculation until we get some more detail anyway....lol
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We know the basics. We know how the doff system works, and they have said this will be similar. And obviously, we know that we will be using our old ships as a component in the mission. This poll is to get a first impression of whether you like that general idea, not to see if you know every detail of how it will work.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
But, I do not want that Starship DOff system to be the SOLE, or even the majority, means of interacting with exploration. I need to be the one to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations, and boldly go where no one has gone before. That's why I joined Starfleet!
This.
Also, just going by the DOff system, and how Cryptic generally operates...
What are the chances this system isn't going to soak the player base by all but requiring ship slot purchases and multiple T6 purchases, including of ship classes you probably don't even otherwise use? I'm thinking somewhere close to nil...
Ah well, maybe we won't need to use it to be effective. Maybe it will have average rewards, or only payout stuff we can get elsewhere as well. However...
... I get the feeling that's not the case. Giving us a whole new system to give us the same old stuff would be a waste. And releasing a system without heavily monetizing it and driving us toward it would be out of character for Cryptic.
So yeah, I have trouble believing this system won't ultimately be very good for Cryptic's wallet, and very bad for anyone who doesn't want to spend hundreds more dollars on this game than they already have.
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This sounds like The brass at Starfleet Command want to put me behind a desk...
Seriously though, I'm somewhat unoptimistic about this, but I'll reserve any final opinions until I play around with it for a while.
This poll is not asking for your final opinion. It is asking for a first reaction to the general idea.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I feel "know" is a bit strong, we have the opinion of someone who didn't bother to sign their fluff piece. Who is StarTrek.com Staff, and have they even played STO?
(still reading though Stylsy concept thread, though it looks semi-interesting)
I'm okay with a "ship doffing" system, as it makes sense, but I'll be really sad if you'll never be able to call the other ships into an active team with your character for PLAYER missions...
If the info from the ST.com article wasn't provided by Cryptic, and the writer was just giving their own opinion: If they hadn't played STO, how would they even know what the duty officer system is to be able to reference it?
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Well, then 'unoptimistic' would be my first reaction. I've never found the current DOFF system terribly exciting, and I don't see any need to get excited about 'doffing with ships'... unless there is going to be some significant differences between the two systems.
It is nice that our 'parked' ships will get some use, but again, doffing isn't something I get excited about.
What this and others said. We have no idea what this could be. For all we know doffing might get a revamp along with this.