I recently played "Of Bajor" and I found something interesting. during one of the possible side missions, I was required to read some of Prylar's (Bajorian Priest) books to find a way to calm down the local population; they didn't like a joint task force setting up shop on the planet, even if it was temporary. most of the books were related to the teachings of the Prophets.
One of the books talked about a high level official or even a prophet meeting someone important, looked weir but fancy. that same book had mentions about the Other and "The whole must be one". This had got me thinking that either Bajorians or the Prophets (more likely) had something to do with the Iconians
I can't remember the exact words or the title of the book so you guys should pay a visit to Hathon's temple on Bajor and and do some research.
I recently played "Of Bajor" and I found something interesting. during one of the possible side missions, I was required to read some of Prylar's (Bajorian Priest) books to find a way to calm down the local population; they didn't like a joint task force setting up shop on the planet, even if it was temporary. most of the books were related to the teachings of the Prophets.
One of the books talked about a high level official or even a prophet meeting someone important, looked weir but fancy. that same book had mentions about the Other and "The whole must be one". This had got me thinking that either Bajorians or the Prophets (more likely) had something to do with the Iconians
I can't remember the exact words or the title of the book so you guys should pay a visit to Hathon's temple on Bajor and and do some research.
The thing to remember about the Prophets is that they exist outside of time. Given their lack of understanding of linear time when they first encountered Sisko it seems unlikely they had any contact with the Iconians (a species we currently understand to be extremely allergic to anything other than unmodified linear time) beyond mere observation. The "whole must be as one" line suggests restoration of a missing part of Iconian society rather than agency from an outside source.
I recently played "Of Bajor" and I found something interesting. during one of the possible side missions, I was required to read some of Prylar's (Bajorian Priest) books to find a way to calm down the local population; they didn't like a joint task force setting up shop on the planet, even if it was temporary. most of the books were related to the teachings of the Prophets.
One of the books talked about a high level official or even a prophet meeting someone important, looked weir but fancy. that same book had mentions about the Other and "The whole must be one". This had got me thinking that either Bajorians or the Prophets (more likely) had something to do with the Iconians
I can't remember the exact words or the title of the book so you guys should pay a visit to Hathon's temple on Bajor and and do some research.
The thing to remember about the Prophets is that they exist outside of time. Given their lack of understanding of linear time when they first encountered Sisko it seems unlikely they had any contact with the Iconians (a species we currently understand to be extremely allergic to anything other than unmodified linear time) beyond mere observation. The "whole must be as one" line suggests restoration of a missing part of Iconian society rather than agency from an outside source.
If so it is maybe the most disappointing plot ever
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
When was the last time you guys went through the Cardassian Struggle arc?
When my DR went through it, recently, my Captain meet one of The Profits near the end. He had a chat on what seemed to be a tiny island. ( you know how The Profits love to use a persons memories as landscapes when communicating with us Temporal-Linear types ) Anyway, I cannot remember the conversation word for word, but the gist was that the Iconians would be stopped again the same way they were the last time. At the time I thought, "Oh, that will be the Preservers." And then - PWAMP!
Now I'll not pretend to have figured it all out, but if my hunch is right, The Other is named Dante, and we can expect :: uses finger :: four more missions.
Also, I suspect, at least one of the Devs is a reader.
I recently played "Of Bajor" and I found something interesting. during one of the possible side missions, I was required to read some of Prylar's (Bajorian Priest) books to find a way to calm down the local population; they didn't like a joint task force setting up shop on the planet, even if it was temporary. most of the books were related to the teachings of the Prophets.
One of the books talked about a high level official or even a prophet meeting someone important, looked weir but fancy. that same book had mentions about the Other and "The whole must be one". This had got me thinking that either Bajorians or the Prophets (more likely) had something to do with the Iconians
I can't remember the exact words or the title of the book so you guys should pay a visit to Hathon's temple on Bajor and and do some research.
The thing to remember about the Prophets is that they exist outside of time. Given their lack of understanding of linear time when they first encountered Sisko it seems unlikely they had any contact with the Iconians (a species we currently understand to be extremely allergic to anything other than unmodified linear time) beyond mere observation. The "whole must be as one" line suggests restoration of a missing part of Iconian society rather than agency from an outside source.
I really haven't been going over this thread.... do we have a current "list of suspects" ?
My biggest thought is, because the Iconians escaped to outside out galaxy with the "Galactic Barrier" up. the Other that saved them could be 0(Zero). In one of the Trek books 0 and God got into all sorts of mischief in our galaxy and the Q got involved. "God" was imprisoned by the Q Continuum at the center of the galaxy and a barrier set up to prevent his escape, while his counterpart, 0, was exiled to outside our galaxy and the barrier there set up to prevent his entrance.
We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
No, it couldn't.
As well as many other proposals in this thread this doesn't match a number of major properties that describe the Other:
1) It must be part of the Whole. And as I have commented earlier in this thread, "House of Pegh" points that the Whole is some kind of community/society the Iconians created at the the time of their Empire and which they now seek to recreate. (It is possible that it was held together by more than just social ties - maybe some genetic bound or yet again some "supernatural" link).
One of the important consequences of this that the Other as a space travelling entity must be ancient enough - more than 200 000 years old.
2) The Other is important enough that without it the Whole cannot be "as One". Without it the Iconians consider themselves vulnerable.
3) The Other must not be seen "since the Day of Fire" - apparently the day Iconia was hit by the rebel races. And we must remember that the Iconians while preparing to the current "war" gathered extensive intel on all the Quadrants.
So this basically rules out:
1) All the current known races and powers of Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta Quadrants, including "our" Alliance and the Dominion. If the Other was one of them - the Iconians clearly could not miss that the Other is out there (see property 3).
2) The player character - if our "the conquering hero" ((c) Commander Locke) was that important to Iconians Heralds would not have tried repeatedly to finish him/her/it.
3) Devidians, Prophets and other out-of-our-plane of existence beings we encounter in course of the game's events. First, due to their nature it is highly improbable that this entities ever were part of "the Whole". Second, they are quite active at the time of the events of the game, so it is very unlikely that the Iconians don't know about them and thus think that they were not "seen since the Day of Fire".
4) 0 (Zero), Qs and other beings so developed that they seem supernatural also apparently don't fulfil the condition of being part of the Whole.
Basically, it leaves
1) A number of ancient and powerful races that were mentioned in Trek, but were not seen in game.
2) Male Iconians - if they ever existed in the first place - also fit
3) Something completely new.
Though there maybe something else that I've missed.
Hmmm, suddenly had an idea.
Maybe there are no male Iconians, after all.
Because there are ... Heralds.
Biologically they are quite clearly close to each other - maybe some time ago they were the same species. And it seems that, contrary to Iconians we see, all Heralds are male.
Hmmm, suddenly had an idea.
Maybe there are no male Iconians, after all.
Because there are ... Heralds.
Biologically they are quite clearly close to each other - maybe some time ago they were the same species.
I'm pretty sure that the devs said that the Heralds are not and never were the same species as the Iconians. IIRC, they evolved on Iconia at the same time, but the Heralds are a less advanced, "simpler" race.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
Hmmm, suddenly had an idea.
Maybe there are no male Iconians, after all.
Because there are ... Heralds.
Biologically they are quite clearly close to each other - maybe some time ago they were the same species.
I'm pretty sure that the devs said that the Heralds are not and never were the same species as the Iconians. IIRC, they evolved on Iconia at the same time, but the Heralds are a less advanced, "simpler" race.
The way I remember it was along the lines of the Heralds had once been the pets of the Iconians.
There were several races obliquely mentioned in TNG and TOS that COULD fit, but we have no idea really since there's no way to identify them.
I'm pretty sure that the devs said that the Heralds are not and never were the same species as the Iconians.
The original blog entry formulates it this way:
They are not the Iconians themselves, but they are native to Iconia and probably share a common ancestor with the Iconians
If this "common ancestor" was sentient - it essentially means that they were the same race.
If they had extreme gender dimorphism and matriarchy, the female part of the species could have evolved to become the Iconians we know while the male remained less developed "Heralds".
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They love the Iconians and the Iconians care for them in return. The Heralds are the personal guards and stewards of the Iconians and absolutely loyal. Perhaps the Heralds were a lesser species of Iconia – one who fell behind in technology. Perhaps they were pets at one time. Whatever they were, their relationship runs deep.
The text is very vague on the Heralds' origins - only a number of propositions, nothing is stated for a fact. So this could be intentional on the Cryptic's writers part.
Though it is a somewhat vague speculation of course.
You're basically thinking of the Iconians and Heralds as sort of being the Eloi and Morlocks, then? (Or...sorry to mention it, the Morg and Eymorg?)
Alyosha's thoughts on the possibility of an Iconian-Devidian connection: "Please no. Finding out once in your life that your species is a mortal enemy of the Federation is enough. Finding out now I'm supposed to be an Iconian? I think not."
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Floating matter that looks 'kinda like energy energy beings in primary colours?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
But they aren't actually energy beings. The Devidians are from a separate time continuum and deal heavily with triolic waves. The Iconians, while they do seem to be infused with energy, are also made of matter.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
You're basically thinking of the Iconians and Heralds as sort of being the Eloi and Morlocks, then?
The principle is the same, but the Iconians are apparently not fitting sybarite aristocracy type the Eloi were (at least before Hollywood got to them, lol).
More like insect type development, without being insects biologically. Iconians as queens, Heralds as workers, drones etc.
The Heralds differentiation into several types also fits this hypothesis.
Note how Harbringers - the most developed and powerful of all Heralds - are always tied to the exact Iconian - Harbringer of M'Tara, Harbringer of T'Ket...
But, as I've said, it is just an idea - I would not promote it for a fact.
But they aren't actually energy beings. The Devidians are from a separate time continuum and deal heavily with triolic waves. The Iconians, while they do seem to be infused with energy, are also made of matter.
Thanks, I made it much more snappy .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
But they aren't actually energy beings. The Devidians are from a separate time continuum and deal heavily with triolic waves. The Iconians, while they do seem to be infused with energy, are also made of matter.
Thanks, I made it much more snappy .
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Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
But they aren't actually energy beings. The Devidians are from a separate time continuum and deal heavily with triolic waves. The Iconians, while they do seem to be infused with energy, are also made of matter.
Thanks, I made it much more snappy .
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I changed the description in my post from 'energy beings' to 'matter beings that look 'kinda like energy'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You can't copyright that. First, a word or phrase can be trademarked, not copyrighted. Secondly, All Conquering Hero™ is already Trademarked.
I don't advise you to doubt Commander Locke's copyright on the phrase...
(Though I mixed up the quote a bit, "all" is out of place there - shame on me...)
The Iconians weren't always floating. In that recording we watch after completing Tier 5 of the Romulan Rep we see Dewans and Iconians, and Iconians clearly walk.
I think they float thanks to those thingies they wear. It's all technology. Their looks - the same, either tech, or some genetic modifications, so a result of tech too.
The Iconians weren't always floating. In that recording we watch after completing Tier 5 of the Romulan Rep we see Dewans and Iconians, and Iconians clearly walk.
I think they float thanks to those thingies they wear. It's all technology. Their looks - the same, either tech, or some genetic modifications, so a result of tech too.
That could just be the old state of the game, the model doesn't even have the same shapes as the new updated ones.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
That, or wasn't that video partly reconstructed? Maybe the reconstruction didn't get everything right?
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I'm sure they have the physical ability to walk. But they don't feel like it. Maybe the floating thing is a habit they picked up over the last few millennia?
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One of the books talked about a high level official or even a prophet meeting someone important, looked weir but fancy. that same book had mentions about the Other and "The whole must be one". This had got me thinking that either Bajorians or the Prophets (more likely) had something to do with the Iconians
I can't remember the exact words or the title of the book so you guys should pay a visit to Hathon's temple on Bajor and and do some research.
And I'm now inclined to agree that "The Other" refers to male Iconians, in light of this:
The word of the awesome and deadly zeroniusrex
If so it is maybe the most disappointing plot ever
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When my DR went through it, recently, my Captain meet one of The Profits near the end. He had a chat on what seemed to be a tiny island. ( you know how The Profits love to use a persons memories as landscapes when communicating with us Temporal-Linear types ) Anyway, I cannot remember the conversation word for word, but the gist was that the Iconians would be stopped again the same way they were the last time. At the time I thought, "Oh, that will be the Preservers." And then - PWAMP!
Now I'll not pretend to have figured it all out, but if my hunch is right, The Other is named Dante, and we can expect :: uses finger :: four more missions.
Also, I suspect, at least one of the Devs is a reader.
My biggest thought is, because the Iconians escaped to outside out galaxy with the "Galactic Barrier" up. the Other that saved them could be 0(Zero). In one of the Trek books 0 and God got into all sorts of mischief in our galaxy and the Q got involved. "God" was imprisoned by the Q Continuum at the center of the galaxy and a barrier set up to prevent his escape, while his counterpart, 0, was exiled to outside our galaxy and the barrier there set up to prevent his entrance.
As well as many other proposals in this thread this doesn't match a number of major properties that describe the Other:
1) It must be part of the Whole. And as I have commented earlier in this thread, "House of Pegh" points that the Whole is some kind of community/society the Iconians created at the the time of their Empire and which they now seek to recreate. (It is possible that it was held together by more than just social ties - maybe some genetic bound or yet again some "supernatural" link).
One of the important consequences of this that the Other as a space travelling entity must be ancient enough - more than 200 000 years old.
2) The Other is important enough that without it the Whole cannot be "as One". Without it the Iconians consider themselves vulnerable.
3) The Other must not be seen "since the Day of Fire" - apparently the day Iconia was hit by the rebel races. And we must remember that the Iconians while preparing to the current "war" gathered extensive intel on all the Quadrants.
So this basically rules out:
1) All the current known races and powers of Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta Quadrants, including "our" Alliance and the Dominion. If the Other was one of them - the Iconians clearly could not miss that the Other is out there (see property 3).
2) The player character - if our "the conquering hero" ((c) Commander Locke) was that important to Iconians Heralds would not have tried repeatedly to finish him/her/it.
3) Devidians, Prophets and other out-of-our-plane of existence beings we encounter in course of the game's events. First, due to their nature it is highly improbable that this entities ever were part of "the Whole". Second, they are quite active at the time of the events of the game, so it is very unlikely that the Iconians don't know about them and thus think that they were not "seen since the Day of Fire".
4) 0 (Zero), Qs and other beings so developed that they seem supernatural also apparently don't fulfil the condition of being part of the Whole.
Basically, it leaves
1) A number of ancient and powerful races that were mentioned in Trek, but were not seen in game.
2) Male Iconians - if they ever existed in the first place - also fit
3) Something completely new.
Though there maybe something else that I've missed.
Maybe there are no male Iconians, after all.
Because there are ... Heralds.
Biologically they are quite clearly close to each other - maybe some time ago they were the same species. And it seems that, contrary to Iconians we see, all Heralds are male.
I'm pretty sure that the devs said that the Heralds are not and never were the same species as the Iconians. IIRC, they evolved on Iconia at the same time, but the Heralds are a less advanced, "simpler" race.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
There were several races obliquely mentioned in TNG and TOS that COULD fit, but we have no idea really since there's no way to identify them.
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If they had extreme gender dimorphism and matriarchy, the female part of the species could have evolved to become the Iconians we know while the male remained less developed "Heralds".
and The text is very vague on the Heralds' origins - only a number of propositions, nothing is stated for a fact. So this could be intentional on the Cryptic's writers part.
Though it is a somewhat vague speculation of course.
Alyosha's thoughts on the possibility of an Iconian-Devidian connection: "Please no. Finding out once in your life that your species is a mortal enemy of the Federation is enough. Finding out now I'm supposed to be an Iconian? I think not."
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
The principle is the same, but the Iconians are apparently not fitting sybarite aristocracy type the Eloi were (at least before Hollywood got to them, lol).
More like insect type development, without being insects biologically. Iconians as queens, Heralds as workers, drones etc.
The Heralds differentiation into several types also fits this hypothesis.
Note how Harbringers - the most developed and powerful of all Heralds - are always tied to the exact Iconian - Harbringer of M'Tara, Harbringer of T'Ket...
But, as I've said, it is just an idea - I would not promote it for a fact.
Thanks, I made it much more snappy
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
I changed the description in my post from 'energy beings' to 'matter beings that look 'kinda like energy'.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
I don't advise you to doubt Commander Locke's copyright on the phrase...
(Though I mixed up the quote a bit, "all" is out of place there - shame on me...)
I think they float thanks to those thingies they wear. It's all technology. Their looks - the same, either tech, or some genetic modifications, so a result of tech too.
That could just be the old state of the game, the model doesn't even have the same shapes as the new updated ones.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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