New raptors get escort package while older Fleet raptors get destroyer package.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
DYSON!?! are you NUTS!! lol not making fun bro, its all love right now, but...
DYSON ships.. still have an AMAZING place in this game... THEY ARE really the first 13 boff power ships in the game.. WITH the ability to up-shift OR down shift to GET that second COMMANDER SLOT ability
dude,
dyson ships are for pros, LOL honestly, I have seen, DUDE in pvp, I have seen some AMAZE SAUSE dyson captains (fed, klink, and rom ..rom got the best version LOL) BUT just epic dyson captains out there, timing baby..
dyson ships are a timing ship.. a awareness ship, they are so elegant in their execution, THEY only got outshadowed by backsteps and palasaide console combos...
as to the avenger?!? (hate to punch twice, but im a pvper... your the fox, im the scorpion on your back.. dude its in the nature, im SORRY!!! LOL we are going to DIE TOGETHER crossing this river cause I stung you, IM SORRY LOL I cant help myself:) forgive me)
but honestly, the avenger is a god cruiser:) I know, I know so many say scimy, SCIMY IS tops, but if your fed? I have seen some sick, and I do mean SICK OFF the HOOK anvenger captains out there make that ship DANCE around you ripping your ship apart with cannon fire, aux2damp, epE, and some really, really epic piloting skills
dude, avenger is a skill ship, AGAIN I hate to call her that, its SO easy to go the faw route, its solid, it works, its proven, its scripture in this game, BUT- if a pvp captain wants to really show boat his mad skillz of piloting... make an avenger dance with cannons LOL THATS skill- AND IT WORKS! that's the awesome thing
with any luck, we can hope to see in over the coming year a t6 version of BOTH the dysons (roms got best version) and the avenger (/klink mhog...mogh...m..somthing LOL)
Sorry, I sounded a bit to noob. I mean, I love the look of those ships and they have high potential. I nearly have every Fed ship in my yard.
And I know they need some skills, but what I meant was, that their "gimmick" ability can be removed to easy. I would have loved if those consoles were a natural part of the ship, not a removeable console. Like removing the frosting from a Donut...
Can you guys potentially make a Fighter Weapons School with Tom Paris as the Teacher?
Social Zone and PVE zone that is different from any other one in game. Its a war and people need a weapon school to learn the art of dogfighting again.
Also make an emote that is either:
"Great Balls of Fire"
or
"Yeeeehaw!"
So many movie references so little time.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "This planet smells, it must be the Klingons"
oh man.... the kortar class looks beautiful *.*
whoever designed the klingon pilot ships deserves a freaking medal
FOR THE EMPIRE!
You're serious? I think it's the ugliest Klingon ship Cryptic has ever made. Even more so than the Command Battlecruisers.
It's a shame as I love the pilot ship idea but the model is terrible, now if we could use another Raptor skin on it, I would buy them. Unfortunately all the variants have the same terrible design. I usually give high praise to the Art department but this time it's a fail for the Klingons.
these maneuvers, this is what escorts should have got, like how cruisers got their command auras, sci ships got their secondary deflectors and sensor analysis, and raiders got their flanking. instead it gets gated behind 1 ship per faction, instead of spread out to all escorts.
gating every new amazing thing they introduce behind 2 or 3 ships, in a game with hundreds of ships, is awful. all these things, and hybrid seats, should be backwards compatible. there might actually be intensive to buy tier 5 again, instead of incentive to avoid them like the plague.
I absolutely agree. Cryptic does know how to make quick bucks at the expense of improving the game as a whole.
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Raptor/Destroyer: (as on Chel Grett, Fleet Somraw, Fleet Qin, Adapted destroyer, hazari destroyer, Nicor bioship, ...)
Precise Weapon Systems
Enhanced Weapon Banks
Devastating Weaponry
Enhanced Weapon Systems
Escort: (afaik all FED escorts, JHAS, JHSS, Hunter escort, S'golth, Manasa, Contortrix, Mat'ha raptor, Pilot raptors, ...)
Precise Weapon Systems
Tactical Maneuvering
Enhanced Weapon Systems
Devastating Weaponry
Raider: (Aquarius, KDF BoPs, Kazon raider, Plesh Brek, ...)
Precise Weapon Systems
Tactical Maneuvering
Enhanced Weapon Systems (Actually, they get Devastating Weaponry)
Enhanced Weapon Banks
In red, there are bugs, inconsistencies. raiders currently get +2,5% CritH instead of +10% to energy/kinetic damage and the new T6 raptors somehow got escort mastery packages.
I just logged onto Tribble to check. I don't have any upgrade tokens, but the upgrade screen shows the Escort/Raptor package for the Fleet Qin and Fleet Somraw. Might the actual upgrade be giving wrong packages despite the upgrade screen showing the correct packages?
Alright. A couple things. First off, put a quell to the flames. I welcome debate, not arguments. Keep it civil.
Also!
toiva beameddown jonathanlonehawk
I have pinged the team with your questions as I am not the best person with technical knowledge. Said person will be back tomorrow morning to come in and respond to your questions. Sorry about the delay, but I'd rather not give you a 90%-sure answer. I'd rather give you a 100%-sure answer.
Alright. A couple things. First off, put a quell to the flames. I welcome debate, not arguments. Keep it civil.
Also!
toiva beameddown jonathanlonehawk
I have pinged the team with your questions as I am not the best person with technical knowledge. Said person will be back tomorrow morning to come in and respond to your questions. Sorry about the delay, but I'd rather not give you a 90%-sure answer. I'd rather give you a 100%-sure answer.
Heh, should I have just posted my questions here instead of a separate thread?
After reaching level 5 in the Mercury, Kortar or Okhala class Pilot ships starship mastery, you will unlock the Stay On Target starship trait. While this trait is slotted, keeping your current target in your forward 90 degree arc causes your ship to autofire a microtorpedo every few seconds.
In no particular order (just a case of having this open for a bit as they come to me)...
1) Affected by or triggers Projectile Weapon Officers (Shield Power or Reduction)?
2) Triggers 1s CD on other Torpedoes?
3) Consumes Torpedo Weapon Enhancements (High Yield, Spread, Transport)?
4) Able to Exploit Torpedo Exposes (Expose Weakness/Violent Detonations)?
5) Triggers Tachyon Charges?
6) Triggers Destabilized Emitters?
7) Works with Omega Kinetic Shearing?
8) Affected by Kinetic Precision?
9) Can proc Omega Graviton Amplifier?
10) Can trigger Intimidating Strikes?
11) Benefits from Intense Focus?
12) Benefits from Enhanced Armor Penetration?
13) Benefits from Intelligence Fleet?
14) Triggers Fluidic Cocoon?
15) Benefits from the Armor Penetration from Harmonic Resonance Relay?
16) Triggers Multidimensional Wave-Function Analysis Module?
17) Affected by Starship Weapon Training/Starship Projectile Weapons/Starship Projectile Weapons Specialization?
18) Boosted by Specific or Generic Tactical Consoles?
19) Benefits from gear or gear set boosts to Torpedo/Projectile damage?
20) Affected by "All Damage" boosts?
21) Benefits from the increased Shield Penetration from a Beam Overload Energy Weapons Officer?
...and er, yeah, that's more than some. If I think of more, er, I'll add them in.
edit: beameddown asked about Viral Torp in another thread, and yeah, that's one I missed.
Heh, course I was looking more at players answering the question as they unlocked the trait than a dev reply.
whats the point of your BUILD, the TRIALS and TIME you have put in if all of it just in the end simply boils down to you BUYING this GUN that does a billion damage?
Cryptic releases a gun that deals a billion damage, then buffs all NPCs in the game to have several hundred billion hitpoints, along with a healthy degree of innate damage resistance and a special snowflake ability that constantly knocks your weapons offline.
People say the high DPS meta isn't infinitely scalable -- it most definitely is. Cryptic just makes the enemies in the game have higher numbers and calls it balance.
We're already reaching the point where 5 tac consoles are becoming the norm for shiny new ships. When that gets old and tiresome, Cryptic will just release a ship with 6 tac consoles and 6 fore weapon slots, then all other ships in the game will be measured by that particular facet.
Alright. A couple things. First off, put a quell to the flames. I welcome debate, not arguments. Keep it civil.
Also!
toiva beameddown jonathanlonehawk
I have pinged the team with your questions as I am not the best person with technical knowledge. Said person will be back tomorrow morning to come in and respond to your questions. Sorry about the delay, but I'd rather not give you a 90%-sure answer. I'd rather give you a 100%-sure answer.
Thank you, I'll know tomorrow anyway since I'm buying the ships regardless. But thanks for asking.
Formerly Known as Protector from June 2008 to June 20, 2012
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
Can parts of the set be mixed and matched in the ship customiser?
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
That is my official response to you doing that. :P
(P.S. always post in the same thread! It helps consolidate information since the devs in the sky look at them a lot)
I just logged onto Tribble to check. I don't have any upgrade tokens, but the upgrade screen shows the Escort/Raptor package for the Fleet Qin and Fleet Somraw. Might the actual upgrade be giving wrong packages despite the upgrade screen showing the correct packages?
Well, unpleasant when stuff gets changed/fixed without notice. Then it's likely (though not sure) there is a raptor/escort mastery package at this point then. Thanks for checking.
The raider bug I noted in the post is fairly recent though. Noticed about two weeks ago. And the funny thing is there was a fix made previously to give raiders the advertised +15% CritD.
Alright. A couple things. First off, put a quell to the flames. I welcome debate, not arguments. Keep it civil.
Also!
toiva beameddown jonathanlonehawk
I have pinged the team with your questions as I am not the best person with technical knowledge. Said person will be back tomorrow morning to come in and respond to your questions. Sorry about the delay, but I'd rather not give you a 90%-sure answer. I'd rather give you a 100%-sure answer.
Thanks, seems like all raptors do get the escort mastery now, though.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
That is my official response to you doing that. :P
(P.S. always post in the same thread! It helps consolidate information since the devs in the sky look at them a lot)
These ships are awesome! I love the look, I love the stats, the boff stations, the traits, 11 consoles, and 5/2 weapon configuration. These are the ships I have been waiting for. So many people have been asking for a great t6 escort (or 9) that didnt come in a lockbox. Well guess what, here they are. I for one am buying at least one faction pack.
Haters gonna hate. Whiners gonna whine. I know these ships are going to fly off the shelves. Yea, there will be nerd rages about "money grabs" from people who wouldnt understand what I means to run a business if it slapped em in the face. Their sense of entitlement has gotten the best of them. Of course, these are also the same players who are needlessly unhappy with all the free content they get regularly too, like expansions and new seasons. There are always those people you just cant please.
I've learned my lesson well that I end up buying ships I rarely ever fly on any character, so I'm going to approach with caution. I will NOT be buying the mega bundle at this early stage.
I like the visual design of all of the Federation variants and if I were going to buy a faction bundle this would be the one. But I'm super tempted to hold out and see if/when they come out with a T6 version of the Defiant. They've already done T6 Intepid and Galaxy variants, so a new Defiant variant is a no-brainer.
I'm a little less enthusiastic about the visual design of the Romulan and KDF variants.
I'm with you. I play Fed almost exclusively, and none of the Fed or KDF ships appeal to me aesthetically, so no great desire to acquire.
But my big angst right now is the same as yours: Buy Fed pack now, or wait for Defiant. I also share your confidence that the iconic Defiant T6 is coming soon, and I don't really want to spend ~$100 on the Fed pack and the Defiant.
Very nice, would be cool to add some shark's teeth in the tradition of the Flying Tigers on the fed ones
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Comments
While you're poking, does the torp console or trait get the Kemosite Weaponry buff?
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
... but something something wax wings.
So what if Gulf Wax won the contract to supply the hull plating; Starfleet saved a lot of credits.
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Thanks for pics.
But could this get sorted out?
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=23734411&postcount=80
New raptors get escort package while older Fleet raptors get destroyer package.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Brings new meaning to the term "buffed".
Sorry, I sounded a bit to noob. I mean, I love the look of those ships and they have high potential. I nearly have every Fed ship in my yard.
And I know they need some skills, but what I meant was, that their "gimmick" ability can be removed to easy. I would have loved if those consoles were a natural part of the ship, not a removeable console. Like removing the frosting from a Donut...
Can you guys potentially make a Fighter Weapons School with Tom Paris as the Teacher?
Social Zone and PVE zone that is different from any other one in game. Its a war and people need a weapon school to learn the art of dogfighting again.
Also make an emote that is either:
"Great Balls of Fire"
or
"Yeeeehaw!"
So many movie references so little time.
You're serious? I think it's the ugliest Klingon ship Cryptic has ever made. Even more so than the Command Battlecruisers.
It's a shame as I love the pilot ship idea but the model is terrible, now if we could use another Raptor skin on it, I would buy them. Unfortunately all the variants have the same terrible design. I usually give high praise to the Art department but this time it's a fail for the Klingons.
I absolutely agree. Cryptic does know how to make quick bucks at the expense of improving the game as a whole.
Epic. . .
Thank you my Queen for a the confirmation.
I just logged onto Tribble to check. I don't have any upgrade tokens, but the upgrade screen shows the Escort/Raptor package for the Fleet Qin and Fleet Somraw. Might the actual upgrade be giving wrong packages despite the upgrade screen showing the correct packages?
STO Resources: <Ship Comparison - All Tiers + Small Craft + Hangar Pets> <Damage Resistance>
<R&D + Upgrade Costs> <Duty Officer Finder> <Suliban Doff Reqs> <Fleet Costs> <Rep Costs>
<Keybind Tour the Galaxy> <Fleet / Armada Management> <Currency Exchange> <Other STO Links>
Also!
toiva
beameddown
jonathanlonehawk
I have pinged the team with your questions as I am not the best person with technical knowledge. Said person will be back tomorrow morning to come in and respond to your questions. Sorry about the delay, but I'd rather not give you a 90%-sure answer. I'd rather give you a 100%-sure answer.
Heh, should I have just posted my questions here instead of a separate thread?
Heh, course I was looking more at players answering the question as they unlocked the trait than a dev reply.
Cryptic releases a gun that deals a billion damage, then buffs all NPCs in the game to have several hundred billion hitpoints, along with a healthy degree of innate damage resistance and a special snowflake ability that constantly knocks your weapons offline.
People say the high DPS meta isn't infinitely scalable -- it most definitely is. Cryptic just makes the enemies in the game have higher numbers and calls it balance.
We're already reaching the point where 5 tac consoles are becoming the norm for shiny new ships. When that gets old and tiresome, Cryptic will just release a ship with 6 tac consoles and 6 fore weapon slots, then all other ships in the game will be measured by that particular facet.
Rinse, repeat, etc.
Thank you, I'll know tomorrow anyway since I'm buying the ships regardless. But thanks for asking.
Please enable us to buy a token with Zen to faction change a 25th Century FED to a TOS FED.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Yes.
..................................................................
Great, now I am the bad guy here again...
That is my official response to you doing that. :P
(P.S. always post in the same thread! It helps consolidate information since the devs in the sky look at them a lot)
The raider bug I noted in the post is fairly recent though. Noticed about two weeks ago. And the funny thing is there was a fix made previously to give raiders the advertised +15% CritD.
Thanks, seems like all raptors do get the escort mastery now, though.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Could be some interesting custom designs
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
They are dead? :eek:
You twitter? there are some gifs about that. You should see them without an Twitter account too.
or you click on trendy's link..
Haters gonna hate. Whiners gonna whine. I know these ships are going to fly off the shelves. Yea, there will be nerd rages about "money grabs" from people who wouldnt understand what I means to run a business if it slapped em in the face. Their sense of entitlement has gotten the best of them. Of course, these are also the same players who are needlessly unhappy with all the free content they get regularly too, like expansions and new seasons. There are always those people you just cant please.
By Roy Fokker's Pineapple Salad!
I'm with you. I play Fed almost exclusively, and none of the Fed or KDF ships appeal to me aesthetically, so no great desire to acquire.
But my big angst right now is the same as yours: Buy Fed pack now, or wait for Defiant. I also share your confidence that the iconic Defiant T6 is coming soon, and I don't really want to spend ~$100 on the Fed pack and the Defiant.
But then again, I kinda do.
Tough call.
Very nice, would be cool to add some shark's teeth in the tradition of the Flying Tigers on the fed ones
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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