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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    I never got to the step of creating the website, so I don't have a link.

    Creating a timeline of where they fit in with the Cryptic missions is something we didn't initially do. Because of the open nature of this anthology, all that is up to the author.

    However, there's nothing to say we can't do that now! So, here is the timeline, it is editable, so authors can add their own missions where they want them to go. I put my mission in as an example. Just "mission name - by @author" in normal text with the mission name bold and color coded by faction (Blue for Fed, Red for KDF, Green for Rom). There's space before Uneasy Allies and after Midnight if anyone has missions before or after. Link is below:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r4MJBSnOIUaBGTz0WcbGePCxwEmiCV71wkt7FA_HSns/edit?usp=sharing
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  • ammianusammianus Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    That looks good! Btw, another small nitpick, if I may. I just played Glimmer of Hope. Not a bad mission. Very good mission design, but extremely confusing story, and NPCs. As far I understood (at the end!), the mission is continuation of other foundry missions. So perhaps, it would be good if you add to the missions on master lists any other non-ico mission that is connected to it. As this would make things more clear.

    Only a suggestion though... ;)
  • zionus0zionus0 Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    ammianus wrote: »
    That looks good! Btw, another small nitpick, if I may. I just played Glimmer of Hope. Not a bad mission. Very good mission design, but extremely confusing story, and NPCs. As far I understood (at the end!), the mission is continuation of other foundry missions. So perhaps, it would be good if you add to the missions on master lists any other non-ico mission that is connected to it. As this would make things more clear.

    Only a suggestion though... ;)

    @Gromio here
    I've thought about doing that- but the last thing I wanted was for the mission to feel like an advertisement for my main story.

    With the recent Terran story line rewrite I'm trying to write in some time travel dialouge to my main villain- maybe Leeta altered history? Actually that could work!

    In any case Glimmer was originally intended to be a standalone (I admit It was written very quickly I wasn't sure how to go more indepth into the story)- the main characters who appear in it make their first appearances in the first two missions of my five part "Dark Legacies" arc. (Honestly I'm not sure if I have the skill to do part five justice- there's going to be some tricky map work) Part one introducing the Guardians is back up in the foundry last I checked, parts 2-4 were in the review tab, so I don't think they're back up.


    Do keep getting dinged for using Canadian enlgish: Colour for instance rather than color.
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  • ammianusammianus Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    Also, does anyone know when ICO missions will be back in the Foundry? Some of them are there, but majority of them seem to be missing...
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    ammianus wrote: »
    Also, does anyone know when ICO missions will be back in the Foundry? Some of them are there, but majority of them seem to be missing...

    Best guess. When the republish process is complete.

    Some may need to be manually published again.

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  • ammianusammianus Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    Hi all, I was checking recently, but a number of Ico missions is still missing. Some of misfits...Convergence, Blinded and Paths of War. Can the authors upload them back, please. And also is there any post Iconian War mission that wraps everything nicely. As I was let down by the ending in Midnight...too fast, and too simple. I was hoping for better resolution with arrival of the New Dawn...but was let down, again :(
  • zionus0zionus0 Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    ammianus wrote: »
    Hi all, I was checking recently, but a number of Ico missions is still missing. Some of misfits...Convergence, Blinded and Paths of War. Can the authors upload them back, please. And also is there any post Iconian War mission that wraps everything nicely. As I was let down by the ending in Midnight...too fast, and too simple. I was hoping for better resolution with arrival of the New Dawn...but was let down, again :(

    I know that multiple missions are still in the review tab- [ICO] Paths of war is still there.... Now that I think of it that one needs to be re-balanced; with recent changes it probably much more difficult than it was originally. Hopefully I'll get some time in the coming weeks to fix it up.

    I think some missions were never finished- I've been looking for the [Instert name here], to recruit the Orion syndicate, never found it though.

    As a side note- alot of the Anthology missions add more to the Iconian war than some of the Featured episodes did. I never felt like were were on the front lines and loosing planets when it was still going on. Watching DS9 and the constant strain of the crews, seeing the scale of the conflict with the Dominion is everything we should have had with the Iconains and more. Heck part of the me would have enjoyed a kind of story where my ship was critically damaged, and forced to limp away and trying to avoid pursuit. It just feels like the Iconian war itself happened all off screen where we didn't see it- until you find this list of marvels.
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  • kradosskkradossk Member Posts: 4 New User
    edited September 2016
    Hello all, first time posting on the forums and even making a Foundry mission at that, and I remembered seeing the Iconian Anthology and being blown away by the creativity and sheer levels of awesome in these missions a month ago. Thinking back to the time, going through the Iconian War mainstream episodes alone, I thought there was so much untapped potential... then these anthologies were mentioned in passing and I was inspired and thrilled by what was seen.

    I came to post not only my gratitude to you guys for making such a fine anthology collection to expand and flesh out the Iconian War, but to also ask for permission and your own feedback on my own spin of an Iconian War story that could hopefully be counted among the anthology tales. Since the time of its creation, the mission doesn't have the (Ico) tag to it; whether it does is something I leave up to you after any interest is taken.

    Released a month ago, the story I wrote takes place in-between Broken Circle and Butterfly, and is called The Scalos Incursion. The premise is for the player character's Starfleet/Romulan Republic officer to partake in a rapidly-constructed joint task force of sorts to investigate and confirm a suspected threat from an old enigmatic adversary potentially aiding the Iconians. Their base of operations: Scalos, a long forgotten world the Federation quarantined off (since Star Trek TOS - Wink of an Eye). Finding out what they are doing there also leads to older histories left unchecked and unknown indicating at (a new take of) the cause and fate of the Scalosians from the unknown hyperacceleration effects.

    Lots of text reading (mainly background and side info, even a few references to a couple of Star Trek TOS novels and other TOS episodes) and various measures of combat are a part of this mission, since my aim was to make it akin to an episodic sort with occasional combat sprinkled in. The duration is about an hour, at least going off test runs of the episode. I hope this mission is something of a good treat for others out there, being my first Foundry mission. Cheers!

    TLDR; I came here to thank those involved in the Iconian War Anthology and also to ask for feedback on my (currently pending) Iconian War story "The Scalos Incursion" published about a month ago.
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    So, the beauty of the Iconian War Anthology is that it is open ended, and there's no approval process. Anyone can make a mission for it at any time. Same with the Alliance Exploration Initiative. For this one, the only requirement is that the mission involves the Iconian War in some way. If that's the case, you may add the [ICO] tag if you wish and add your mission to the master list.

    I'll be sure to give it a play though!
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  • kradosskkradossk Member Posts: 4 New User
    Sounds good, thank you - I'll throw in the tag and check out the master list. I hope you enjoy the mission :smile:
  • I made and published a mission a while ago about how the mirror universe Terrans were servitors of the Iconians, but it wasn't that well made. I also have an idea of making an Iconian war afterparty mission on ESD (dance challenges, endless talking to people [not], and more!), tell me what you think of that idea.

    Also, I have an idea of an alternate ending to the war that would actually have expanded the Iconian struggle further. T'ket, angry about his cut off arm and the death of M'tara, and half the remaining Iconians, disliked the fact that the Alliance has not paid for what they have done despite reobtaining the World Heart. After the arguing becomes worse, the Iconians not in favor of the treaty (what is the treaty called, anyways?) break from the rest of the Iconians, taking some servitor species (possibly the Zenkethi?) along with them to fight the pro-treaty Iconians, who have the aid of other servitors, possibly Heralds, and the Alliance. The Iconian War has escelated to an Iconian Civil War, a battle between gods. What do you think?
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    I don't think we really have a treaty with them ... It's more along the lines of ... 'You leave us alone .. or we'll kill you.'
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  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    andycman wrote: »
    I made and published a mission a while ago about how the mirror universe Terrans were servitors of the Iconians, but it wasn't that well made. I also have an idea of making an Iconian war afterparty mission on ESD (dance challenges, endless talking to people [not], and more!), tell me what you think of that idea.

    Also, I have an idea of an alternate ending to the war that would actually have expanded the Iconian struggle further. T'ket, angry about his cut off arm and the death of M'tara, and half the remaining Iconians, disliked the fact that the Alliance has not paid for what they have done despite reobtaining the World Heart. After the arguing becomes worse, the Iconians not in favor of the treaty (what is the treaty called, anyways?) break from the rest of the Iconians, taking some servitor species (possibly the Zenkethi?) along with them to fight the pro-treaty Iconians, who have the aid of other servitors, possibly Heralds, and the Alliance. The Iconian War has escelated to an Iconian Civil War, a battle between gods. What do you think?

    One idea I played with in "Ghost's Gambit" is that the Iconians, being incapable of time travel, used the time-traveling Devidians as servitors, and that this would eventually figure into the Temporal Cold War. So perhaps instead of an outright Iconian civil war - or even as part of it - T'ket's faction might side with Noye's cohort in the TCW.
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