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dbeiswenger
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The Federation has always been accepting of all races. Klingons are even a playable race for the Federation. Can we get some more? such as
Orion
There have been a few Orions in Starfleet, most notably Gaila in the new alternate timeline "Star Trek".
Orions would be easy to do, as they are already a race. All that would be required would be to port the
race over from KDF to Fed.
Romulan
Since the Romulan Republic and the Federation are close allies, Its only logical that some Romulans
might join Starfleet. This would also be easy to do since they are already a race, and could just be ported
over to the Federation as playable Races.
Deltan
Deltans were featured in Star Trek: The motion picture, and Star Trek III: Search for spock. They could be
made a playable race, although they might take a bit more work than the Orions and Romulans, because
they aren't currently a race.
I would be more than willing to pay 550 zen to have one of these as a playable race. (similar to the Joined Trill, or the Federation Klingons) as im sure others would.
What do you all think?
FYI... This discussion has been merged with a newer discussion. Not a new thread, more like a restart of a conversation that hasn't yet gone necro ~ Bluegeek
Orion
There have been a few Orions in Starfleet, most notably Gaila in the new alternate timeline "Star Trek".
Orions would be easy to do, as they are already a race. All that would be required would be to port the
race over from KDF to Fed.
Romulan
Since the Romulan Republic and the Federation are close allies, Its only logical that some Romulans
might join Starfleet. This would also be easy to do since they are already a race, and could just be ported
over to the Federation as playable Races.
Deltan
Deltans were featured in Star Trek: The motion picture, and Star Trek III: Search for spock. They could be
made a playable race, although they might take a bit more work than the Orions and Romulans, because
they aren't currently a race.
I would be more than willing to pay 550 zen to have one of these as a playable race. (similar to the Joined Trill, or the Federation Klingons) as im sure others would.
What do you all think?
FYI... This discussion has been merged with a newer discussion. Not a new thread, more like a restart of a conversation that hasn't yet gone necro ~ Bluegeek
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I like it. I'd also like more races for the KDF and Romulan Republic while we're at it. Say, KDF Remans and Romulan Klingons.
Playable Deltans. Dear God, man, Drozana's at near capacity as it is!
Going to have to be clearer about there being a few Orions in Starfleet. There is the Officer Exchange program between the Klingon Defense Force and Starfleet in STO, the Orion on the Terran Empire ship in Enterprise, and Gaila. However, Gaila doesn't count since what happens in the JJ Universe stays in the JJ Universe. None of these are examples of Orions in Starfleet in the universe that we are confined to. If we start considering the JJ Universe, then we have to consider including catgirls for Caitians and what we have in STO aren't catgirls.
Why? We already can make Starfleet-aligned Romulans, aliens that look like Romulans, and Vulcans that act like Romulans.
Deltans I could actually see added to the Federation, but I rather see new races for the Klingons and Romulans before the Federation gets some new races.
What people really want is to have something unique. A lot of what made Trek interesting was Spock, Data, Worf, etc - unique species that were not commonly seen as being part of the overall bland Humanity within Starfleet.
What the OP is asking for is not about wanting an Orion because it "belongs" to the KDF Faction. It is wanting an Orion to have something unique for yourself. A way to feel like it is something special within Starfleet. It seems to me that is why Cryptic originally sold playable species.
What I see is a Fed wanting to take one of the unique things from the KDF (Orion) and one of the Rom's unique (and OP) things, Romulan, and fold it into theirs. Because obviously what Feds have isn't enough. It's as plain as day.
If you want your Orion, go KDF.
If you want your Romulan, go Romulan Republic.
You don't need Orions, you already have the Ferengi. Plus Deltans have the same power of seduction that an Orion does. Also as you noted, Deltans are already a member of Starfleet, ST: The Motion Picture, that Deltan was a Starfleet Navigations Officer.
So in deducting Orions form this. We'll replace it with something useful for the Federation. Let's say, Talaxians.
As for the KDF. We'll take Voth, Vaadaur, and Hirogen. And if we can't have Vaadaur, ehh Breen will work. Wait no, we have enough races already without females. Scratch that, not Breen, but we will take Cardasians.
Too bad the majority of KDF are Orions...
Talaxians were made into a Lifer perk when Delta Rising was released for all factions if I remember correctly.
U.S.S. Tempest
I'm looking forward to the day I can pay for the privilege to do this, the same way I paid for my Caitian.
Paranoid much?
And maybe I do not like the KDF stories. Should I be forced to play through missions I do not like just because I want to play an Orion? Plus, let us not forget that there are already playable Klingons for the Federation, and playable Joined Trill for the KDF. I am really not seeing much difference here.
In the end it is all about making your play-experience enjoyable rather then some delusional limited Faction thinking.
So what you're saying is the OP wants something unique? How is it unique if they're just taking Orions and Romulans for themselves?
By taking those two species they will no longer be unique...
So it can't be because they want something unique...the act of taking them from the other factions will take their uniqueness away...so I gotta agree with warmaker.
All I see here is someone who wants to take races from the factions that have little...and a race like the Deltans (Which are just bald humans so easily created as a human or alien) to pad this and not look like a complete selfish race grab.
I'll give you a pass on that since you're new to the forums...
Over half of my characters are aliens made from the alien template - including my Efrosian avatar. I have a Romulan in the Federation, a Xindi Primate, an Efrosian (my main), a Deferi, a Klingon (who is a member of Section 31), etc.
The players of this game really needs to get past this limited Red/Blue/Green way of thinking. Everything we do past level 30ish is the same. We are essentially all playing the same story. Only the ships are different.
On this you can create the race using the alien template. I created a Federation Romulan before they even talked about introducing them. I've seen someone who had used either the human or alien template to create a Federation Orion. The main reason people want to have Orions open to more than just the KDF is the fact, only a KDF Orion gets the skimpy clothing. That's it. That's the only reason to want an Orion. Cause their racial abilities, other than Seduce, aren't that impressive. And Seduce is a little weird since it affects Borg, Voth, Breen, Tholian, etc. Granted it has a 2 minute cooldown, so its not really all that useful.
This is the truth to most things. Its not really the race they want. It's the clothing, given you can create any race with teh alien template. And the ships. Can't forget those.
Deltan's are sexual yes. Orions on the other hand, have a period of heightened sex. They go in heat, like a cat or dog. And to an Orion, they're body is the most valuable commodity they have.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Orion
Have a read and learn. Orions aren't the sexual beings they are made out to be. Especially the Care and Love part for the "sexual" thing. Orions are not sexual being. And here is why...
Orion females also produced large amounts of a powerful chemical pheromone that generally acted like a love potion. It had a range of effects on different species and sexes. In a Human male (and likely in males of most humanoid races, including Orions), it accelerated the metabolism and increased adrenaline levels, inducing aggression and delusion, and generally making him highly suggestible to the Orion woman who produced it. In this way, they became enthralled to the Orion woman. Human females, on the other hand, suffered a different, more negative effect, experiencing headaches and lethargy. Denobulan males experienced interrupted sleep cycles and extreme tiredness while Vulcan women were immune to any effects. Human males that were telepathically linked to a female Vulcan could also become immune to the pheromone. A Klingon male could experience a pheromonal shock due to the rush of hormones; allegedly, this could potentially be deadly for a young male. This made Klingons especially susceptible to an Orion woman's influence.
So yeah. increased adrenaline levels, aggression, and delusions. That sounds... not so sexual to me.
If your gonna come to this forum and try to post a serious topic your gonna need a seriously thick skin ive been done the same way myself but meh w/e right?
If you say something that can be misunderstood or believed to be either canon or non canon your going to run head long into trek trolls and tons of nerd rage.
Best discussions like this? is not to post a topic about it at all unless you can take the heat of a thousand trekkies nerd raging on you at once lol
No wonder I can't sleep.
*headscrath* This one is a bit hard to understand. I mean you can create any race using the templates given in the character creator. The only difference between the one created and one that already playable are the racial passives and clothing.
Ok well I take that back. there are a few you can't create. Like a Voth... can't quite seem to get that funky head shape right.
It's "weaponized" sexual biology of a sorts. Orion females uses sexual hormones for internal control and for nefarious purposes toward outsiders. It's part and parcel of their culture. It's something to appeal to horny teenagers and twenty-somethings, both in the Original Series (where it's not specified what is behind the irresistible power of the "green animal women") and Enterprise (where we got an explanation, and the establishment of Orion culture as matriarchal).
So, yes. There are sexual connotations behind the whole Orion pheromone bit.
Hard and soft core canon??
Your allowed to say that here ? :eek:
Is It like watching hard and soft core Gorn?
Somebody must have gotten access to your account. Because I've seen too many intelligent, thoughtful posts from you to believe that this typical childish, knee-jerk tripe is actually you posting.