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    ginobaldelli823ginobaldelli823 Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Why am I picturing a Giant Ball of Yarn orbiting a star made out of cat-nip
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    crusader0007crusader0007 Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I hate cats...woof woof woof :D So glad the Iconians vaporized it.
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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    How many of those other species have a playerbase significant enough to have multiple player fleets comprised exclusively of them, or are popular enough to be a Zen unlockable race that actually has a pretty decent sales rate considering how many of them I see around?

    From the anniversary (reordered to make the point):
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9065123-star-trek-online-5-year-anniversary-infographic

    % of all captains that are:

    Talaxian 0.1
    Ferasan 0.3
    Pakled 0.4
    Tellarite 0.4
    Reman 0.5
    Rigelian 0.5
    Bolian 0.6
    Nausicaan 0.6
    Lethean 0.7
    Caitian 0.8
    Benzite 0.8
    Ferengi 1.1
    Saurian 1.2
    Gorn 2.1
    Andorian 2.2
    Lib Borg 2.2
    Bajoran 2.6
    Orion 2.6
    Betazoid 3.9
    Trill 6.0
    Alien 16.0

    Caitians and ferasans stick together and form fleets together more commonly than the players of other species. We aren't a higher percentage of the player base. We're just very social.
    As to your second point, this is a game not a precise simulation. Cait is where you decide to put it. Players like me would gladly have it in the "wrong place" over not having anything at all.

    The nerd rage over many things in the alpha vs beta debate suggest that you and I may be a minority (or a silent majority) in this. I think, it might be better as things are. Though a foundry map would be very cool.
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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lindaleff wrote: »

    2: Ferasans can have anywhere from white-blue-black fur, so they could have evolved to survive in dark regions, such as underground, or in the dark side of a tidally-locked planet close to the sun. Either that, or they evolved in the frozen environment of a Class P planet (Think Andoria.), which means it is farther away from the host sun, but still just inside the reaches of the Habitable Zone.

    Or, maybe the opposite?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther
    Black leopards are common in the equatorial rainforest of Malaya and the tropical rainforest on the slopes of some African mountains such as Mount Kenya.[4] They are also common in Java, and are reported from densely forested areas in southwestern China, Myanmar, Assam and Nepal, from Travancore and other parts of southern India where they may be more numerous than spotted panthers.[5] One was recorded in the equatorial forest of Cameroon.
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    quistraquistra Member Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Cait is actually not, astrometrically speaking, in the block of sectors represented on the map. It's a ways "south."
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    cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Where is my "Mawg" species, Taco?:(
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lindaleff wrote: »
    But the problem is that no one knows exactly where Ferasa/Cait actually is.

    1: By plotting real-universe stars, 15 Lyncis is somewhere in Romulan space.
    2: Some of the books hint that it is in the vicinity of Defera.
    3: The Gamma Quadrant duty officer box is where we get Ferasan officers, which suggests 15 Lyncis is in the Gamma Quadrant.

    So, WHERE is it? Which source do we use?




    All I can say for certain is what the duty officer chain tells us.

    1: Ferasa was the original species and homeworld.
    2: They experimented with genetic engineering.
    3: Those who disagreed with the genetic engineering fled Ferasa, and found refuge on another planet in their system, Cait.
    4: So the two planets are definitely in the same solar system.
    5: So with one allied with Starfleet, and the other with KDF, the system is likely a constant war zone, so we would need to expect that kind of Battlezone setting if the Devs allowed us access.




    So now, let's look at the planets themselves.

    1: Caitians have brown fur, which suggests forested habitats. So Cait is likely Class M.
    2: Ferasans can have anywhere from white-blue-black fur, so they could have evolved to survive in dark regions, such as underground, or in the dark side of a tidally-locked planet close to the sun. Either that, or they evolved in the frozen environment of a Class P planet (Think Andoria.), which means it is farther away from the host sun, but still just inside the reaches of the Habitable Zone.




    All that nerding made me hungry. I am going to go eat some tribbles.

    Not all caitians are brown. Ferasan fur colors result from the genetic engineering. No "evolving" had anything to do with that.
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    potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    With 3 of my current 12 toons being Feline, I think it would make for a very interesting and specialized ground map.

    But in light of the player base percentages, I think the Gorn home world and several others take priority.
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    captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    All this talk is great and all, but aren't there more important issues to worry about first?
    I need a beer.

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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    All this talk is great and all, but aren't there more important issues to worry about first?

    More important... *ponders*

    Did someone find my hidden stash of caramel-coated catnip crunchies? Are tails missing on the new armor?

    Now I'm worried about what might be more important! Details man, we need details!
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    If there are no tails on the new uniforms, I'll make sure it is fixed XD.
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    j0hn41j0hn41 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I'd Like to see Cait added, (and other home worlds), even if it was just a star system with a foundry door, (though more social zones are always welcome).

    If they ever add a row of sectors at the bottom of the current Alpha Quadrant map, I think They should put it there. Might be closer than the star charts map says, but it would be close enough.
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    oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Stricly speaking if I understand my game canon, they originate from the same place as the Ferasians. they've sort of got the reverse relationship that the Romulans and Vulcans do.

    OH *evil grin toward an homage of certain trek table top game..sometimes played with ship minitures* (before the star trek ship combat simulator FASA et al.)


    Something like the ancient brawl starter between Kzinti and Lyrans .. "oh are you folks genetic cousins?"

    Where they stop fighting each other to fight you for even suggesting such a repellent thought?
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    aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Isn't there a myth about Caitians not having a homeworld ?

    Something about them just showing up one day and soon making you feel like a guest in your own home ... , with looks that clearly indicate ownership of you instead of the other way around ... ?









    ... wait , we're still talking Caitians , and not cats , right ? :D
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    huskerklghuskerklg Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    How many of those other species have a playerbase significant enough to have multiple player fleets comprised exclusively of them,

    If you don't know, you aren't looking. There are at least a couple Bolian ones.
    or are popular enough to be a Zen unlockable race that actually has a pretty decent sales rate considering how many of them I see around?

    They were added behind Zen because they are more popular. That what purely monetizing new content.

    But if you have to know they Borg were likely far more lucrative, join Trill probably close as popular.

    So while Trill has been added, the Borg Co-operative has no homeworld for all the liberated Borg Players, and the Borg are far more popular than the cats.
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    arliekkosarliekkos Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Any sand planet would work. Just one big damned litter box with a scattering of hairballs and the endless sound of licking one's self.
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    cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    arliekkos wrote: »
    Just one big damned litter box with a scattering of hairballs and the endless sound of licking one's self.

    Like zone chat, at ESD.:P
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    wirtddwirtdd Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    tacofangs wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1434961


    See above, second to last Q.


    Cait is not special in it's non-representation. If we added Cait, just because it's your toon's home system, how many others would need to be added for the same reason? Bolarus? Yridia? Gornar? Naussica? Etc. Etc. Etc.

    Cait is also, however, located outside the playable space of the Beta Quadrant.



    Ferenginar is JUST over the border. Cait is many sectors away.

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    mjarbarmjarbar Member Posts: 2,084 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    j0hn41 wrote: »
    I'd Like to see Cait added, (and other home worlds), even if it was just a star system with a foundry door, (though more social zones are always welcome).

    If they ever add a row of sectors at the bottom of the current Alpha Quadrant map, I think They should put it there. Might be closer than the star charts map says, but it would be close enough.

    While I would very much like to see it added to the bottom of the existing map (even as just a usable doorway for the Foundry) I would very much support this, as it would also create space for some ofthe other homeworlds as well.
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Isn't there a myth about Caitians not having a homeworld ?

    Something about them just showing up one day and soon making you feel like a guest in your own home ... , with looks that clearly indicate ownership of you instead of the other way around ... ?

    ... wait , we're still talking Caitians , and not cats , right ? :D

    SSSSHHHHHHH....everyone will be onto us!!! :D

    In all seriousness though we have seen places like Andoria put in the maps which to my knowledge are not used except by role players and foundry missions, and we have seen Ferenginar added with the expectation of future use, so a president has been set for it to be included. While the argument can be made that there is space limitations and/or one race is more popular than another, if it can be done for one race then it can be done for others as well!

    Hopefully it can be added in the near future.
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    admiraltroikaadmiraltroika Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I, for one, am glad that the developers are not catering excessively to furries.
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    not sure on star trek canon but apart from the animated series the only time I have seen caitian is in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home & Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
    as apart from earth the only planet I have seen them on is nimbus 3 maybe that is as good as their own home world, the terrain there surly seems to be suited to large cats.
    I have seen no other mension of where their home world might be or what it is called.

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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    not sure on star trek canon but apart from the animated series the only time I have seen caitian is in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home & Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
    as apart from earth the only planet I have seen them on is nimbus 3 maybe that is as good as their own home world, the terrain there surly seems to be suited to large cats.
    I have seen no other mension of where their home world might be or what it is called.

    Nimbus is a rogue planet where many species came to it. Nimbus is not a homeworld to anyone. If you noticed too, some of the female cats there have human ears. Obvious signs of inter-species breeding.
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    quistraquistra Member Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    You guys actually got a definitive answer from a dev. Cait is about 60 to 80 light years south of the area currently mapped.

    Can we move on?
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    demonicaestheticdemonicaesthetic Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Agreed. Too many on the game already. I wouldn't be terribly upset if the Devs decided to do away with the Caitain/Ferasan character models completely, as they played a very, very minor role on ST, and only seem to attract deviants anyway.

    "Hmm, Delta Recruits... Free char slot, ok lets do this, now what species... How about a premium species, since they are on sale right now, remans, nah rommy chars, fed klingon, nah, trill? humans with tattoos, nah... Caitians, nice looking cat headed chars, and the premium species bonuses are good. Sold!"

    I guess not wanting a char thats not YET another "human wearing coloured bodypaint with cornish pasties stuck to their face" alien, and has some decent bonuses makes me a "deviant"

    Glad to be deviant...

    Oh... the latex cement holding the cornish pasties on your head is coming undone, better report back to makeup/bakery for fixing or else people might forget you're a member of a significant Star Trek species...
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    quistra wrote: »
    You guys actually got a definitive answer from a dev. Cait is about 60 to 80 light years south of the area currently mapped.

    Can we move on?

    Things like the galaxy thread didn't move on at first, so neither will this one.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    "Hmm, Delta Recruits... Free char slot, ok lets do this, now what species... How about a premium species, since they are on sale right now, remans, nah rommy chars, fed klingon, nah, trill? humans with tattoos, nah... Caitians, nice looking cat headed chars, and the premium species bonuses are good. Sold!"

    I guess not wanting a char thats not YET another "human wearing coloured bodypaint with cornish pasties stuck to their face" alien, and has some decent bonuses makes me a "deviant"

    Glad to be deviant...

    Oh... the latex cement holding the cornish pasties on your head is coming undone, better report back to makeup/bakery for fixing or else people might forget you're a member of a significant Star Trek species...

    Yer just falling for Nabreeki's standard dose of trolling.
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