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  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Even after they loaded, the flashing of them - how quickly they were zipping through - left me wishing I could stop it. :(

    If you mouse-over the gifs they pause, which at least lets you get a good look at specific variations. ;)
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If you mouse-over the gifs they pause, which at least lets you get a good look at specific variations. ;)

    Nifty. I actually downloaded the Fed one so I could view the different frames in GIMP to get an idea of some of the options.
  • gorgothedreadful#6260 gorgothedreadful Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Two of them appear to be named "Concorde" and "Geneva". Can anyone make out the third Starfleet name?
  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    davideight wrote: »
    as it is now, the ship looses 20% weaponcost reduction for solo content, but wont get any inspiration - cause solo - and thereby loose a lot of fun in solo gameplay.

    If you actually read it a bit more carefully:
    This resource is built when anybody on your team activates a bridge officer ability. Command Bridge Officer abilities generate more Inspiration. To account for fewer players activating bridge officer abilities when on smaller teams or playing solo, you gain a bonus to Inspiration generation in these circumstances. That said, you will generally be able to generate Inspiration more quickly in a full team.

    You will still build Inspiration/Leadership points, but it would only be slightly slower than if you were on a team (I'd assume the break-even point is a 3-man team).
  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    @Cryptic
    Love the ship variant kit bashing GIFs. More of this pls.

    I like the look of the fed and rom ships. The KDF however is a let down. No hammer head saucer section option??
    My main is KDF, however I do supremely love cruisers with flight decks, so as much as I don't like the looks of it, I might end up getting the KDF variant for the play style, not the looks.

    Pricing is hideous for the lot. If the complete bundle was $80 - $100, I'd throw you the money, $120? No. As a result you may only be getting $60.

    The inspiration stuff sounds cool. I like FDCs cause cruisers are kinda boring without a hanger. Giving me something a little extra to micro manage and benefit from sounds intriguing and fun.


    Also, for future, please consider the Orion NPC dreadnaught (looks like a suped up Corsair) as a T6 KDF ship option.
    I totally missed it originally. They can't be Flight-Deck Cruisers...they can mount DCs. So much like the Eclipse Intel Cruiser was its own thing, these Command Battle Cruisers are their own thing
    ...
    I take it back - these aren't FDCs...they're their own thing. Tricky, Cryptic, tricky...I'll get you next time!

    It's a cruiser, with a flight deck...

    If there's sufficient tac boff (at least 3 tac boff abilities) seating you could argue they're actually called "Flight Deck Battle Cruisers" = FDC with DHC capability?
    I want to use Breen Fighters and Elachi Shuttles on them. I still don't get why they won't make the Elite versions able to do that. They already nerfed the Pets; so no real gamebreaker there.
    I agree. Frigates should be mother ship bound, fighters/shuttles should be usable on any/all ships with hangers. Stifles build customisation.
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  • luddimusluddimus Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I likey,

    I hope some of those custom algorythms will be made to be fully backwards compatible with the existing ships - imagine the designs/monstrosities.

    Why does the KDF moan about lack of Sci ships- They are not a particularly scientific race:
    Mr Klingon, could you delicately TRIBBLE this into that wall? FETCH ME THAT SLEDGEHAMMER!

    They do have a few carriers however with some decent ranking sci slots though, I loved my Vo'Quv and lets not forget the universal boff slots.

    My Rommie may even park his Scimitar for a shiney new boat.
  • jtoon74jtoon74 Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Curse cryptic and their nifty new Command ships. I have access to more ships than I can have character slots already :/
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If your a kdf engineer buying the three pack is a must, that engi version is unpleasantly square ( being nice ).
  • zechszechs Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    she needs a 2 Hangar Bay at lest so we can replace the Carrier Caitian Atrox and the 5U Atrox if not there's no point buying it

    Plz get is right this time STO
  • lestrallestral Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    All the pretty effects in the world can be put into these new ships but in the end its all down to the stats. Does it have at least 5 weapon slots in the front and 4 in the back? At least 4 to 5 engineering console slots? At least 4 to 5 tactical console slots? At least 3 to 4 sci console slots? When loaded with end-game mark 14 equipment sets, does the hull end up in the 80K to 100K range? Can we get mission DPS results on parsers that end up in the 15K to 20K range? What boff slots does it have and how many of them are commander rank? Basically show us the numbers and then we'll see if your wasting our time with this or not...
  • daddytrekdaddytrek Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    More ships wonderful :), no ship slots left and cannot buy anymore is a pile of ship :mad:!! Devs we need more ship slots before extra ships being added to the game please :)
  • gabrielinwestmingabrielinwestmin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    daddytrek wrote: »
    More ships wonderful :), no ship slots left and cannot buy anymore is a pile of ship :mad:!! Devs we need more ship slots before extra ships being added to the game please :)

    We have enough already, they already increased it once for free. So.... you have a few options:

    1. Buy even more ship slots
    2. Discard a ship you don't use anymore to free up a ship slot
    3. Make a new character
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  • coldicephoenixcoldicephoenix Member Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I sincerely hope its the angle that makes those KDF ships look a bit... odd. I still might end up buying it like I did the Bortas pack.. if only to support the KDF faction (my main is KDF)

    Still waiting for that elusive K'Vort tho ... come now, would you not want to fly a BoP the size of the Galaxy class :D

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Have sat there until I started getting motion sickness from the animated gif...

    ...and imho, this is the best looking variant without being able to select the parts personally: http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/53/e0/53e0b44109d74c777c89fc5f42555f391423276321.png

    There are other ideas there, from parts I didn't see selected, wondering if those could go together...
  • daddytrekdaddytrek Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    We have enough already, they already increased it once for free. So.... you have a few options:

    1. Buy even more ship slots
    2. Discard a ship you don't use anymore to free up a ship slot
    3. Make a new character

    Thanks for the advice. I don't have enough already!! I paid for my extra ship slot spaces they were not free!!!

    1. At my ship space limit.
    2. Buy ships to then discard them ok.
    3. I have other characters with too little ship spaces.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,464 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Can't say the design or abilities of these ships appeal to me, but to each their own.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • starblade7starblade7 Member Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    hfmudd wrote: »
    I understand why the Guardian couldn't have a Command seat when it first came out - because Command didn't exist yet as a specialization - but doesn't it make much more sense to have one of those instead of an Intel slot? Make it so.

    This is an excellent suggestion. The non-Intel / non-Command ships that have already been released really need to be updated to allow both types of hybrid BOffs to be slotted. If that were to happen, I'd probably buy the Guardian (and I thought I swore never to spend another cent on the game).
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  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Thanks for the blog and welcome to the new Art Lead for STO.

    The Rom ships look great. The Fed ships look better now from these angles. Kdf ones are meh.
    Love the new high res gifs. Much appreciated. Kudos to the design ship team, they did a great job.
    Looking forward for the new upcoming blogs about the stats.

    But..., and this has nothing to do with the ship designs, why bother even releasing new ships if you cut off your majority of your playerbase from space queues via too high difficulty and very harsh fail conditions?:confused: I mean the queues are (still) dead, even with a dil bonus...
  • andykirkhamandykirkham Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'd actually like to thank Cryptic for listening to the player base when the Intel Ships were released for Delta Rising.

    We had 4 problems (once the FED hull colour options were fixed):

    1 - FED Nacelle shapes
    2 - FED Nacelle colours
    3 - FED Having to buy all three to customise
    4 - Only 1 ship each for Rom/KDF

    And I take exception to some of the negative feedback out there when in fact these have been solved:

    1 - Multiple nacelle combinations and configurations with different geometries
    2 - Upper and lower parts of nacelles seemingly vary as do the colour options to suit players
    3 - Only two needed to interchange parts
    4 - x3 ships per faction as well as 1 for Kobali

    Personally I think the ships look great and while that elongated aft star-drive section is definitely not for everyone, these are sleek starships that actually look like they ought to be in the early 25th century. (Ambassador-in-bad-fancy-dress-Guardian, I'm talking to you).

    So if you don't like them, keep your existing ships. If you're loaded, buy them for the traits (if you really need more traits). And please show some consideration for the developers who really worked hard and these and it's clear to many of us that they have.



    However... seriously we need more missions revamping to lv 60 xp. I know your thinking of taking away Argala grinding but that's not the solution. You need to add more missions that are similar in reward/time but more varied content. Also whatever xp sources you think we have, are either not rewarding enough or aren't being promoted well enough because starship parking space prices over argala are through the roof at the moment ;)

    And as ever, kidding and ranting aside, I love the game. Always have. Always will.
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  • atroxvincentiusatroxvincentius Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Awesome work, I can't wait to get my hands on them!:)
  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 357 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Doh, Virus got schooled! :eek:


    And the reason the Avenger & Mogh were more expensive, was they were the first 5 front weapons for the Fed & KDf, and also th efirst ships with Cruiser Commands.

    And ye .. the pack is "cheap"... coz u pay 12.000 zen for 9 ships , thats 1333.33 zen per ship ...
    That's a fair "bulk" discount for some extra ship options ... and here's to hoping they will be nice & fun to fly with ... So ship price is like ... 3000 single, 2000 in 3-pack and 1334 in 9-pack

    I am with all to think i like the Romulan warbirds the best .... but saying the kdf versions are the ugliest they ever saw ... i dont share that vision .... especially not from the pic in the blog ...

    I will see what it does ingame ... and base my judgement on that ... coz ... tbh .. there are alot more "odd shapes" and wing structures on other ships in the game, which make alot less sense than what they did with the kdf ships.

    Aside from that, i hope the consoles are interesting enough to have them equiped, coz tbh .. i only use those consoles from the other packs when i feel i need to do some out-of-the-box playstyle.
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Not interested. Cheers.

    I don't need ships to login to grind.
  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Oh, and I'd also like to point out that I'm amused by the fact they're Command cruisers, but don't have full access to all 4 Command toggle buffs.

    Yeah, but why would the flagship of a taskforce/fleet have the meat shield cruiser command?
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You've got +1 console, +10% shields, and -1 BOFF ability.



    Even after they loaded, the flashing of them - how quickly they were zipping through - left me wishing I could stop it. :(

    Despite the fact you can stop the cycling by hovering your cursor above it, some more convenient way would be welcome. This however is nothing aimed at Cryptic. I'm already glad they added the gifs and hi-res versions of the images as well.


    And the upgraded Fleet Tier 5 should also have better hull in general than Tier 6 (+10% normally). Frankly, I consider FT5-U superior to T6. In other words, I love all the freely upgradeable event ships: Risian and Breen (the first two).
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • hellstedthellstedt Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    When do we get some T6 escorts? We now got one Escort, two Science ships and a bunch of cruisers for T6, not counting Lockbox/Events. That's not really fair...
  • clannmacclannmac Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Cool ideas; some variants look pretty good - even original, too - though, definitely not all. Unfortunately for me, I have long since run out of kidneys to sell to be able afford to buy one, let alone bundles or "super bundles" of these. Moreover, sorry: none (look or abilities) are quite impressive enough for the expense, even if I had the inclination. Pretty steep, guys... :eek:

    Good luck, though!
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  • jtoon74jtoon74 Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Reading some of the posts complaining about the KDF Ships designs, I was struck by the fact that in EVERY game I've played, the Klingon ships look similar in design. So if you don't like them, well I'm afraid that ship as gone to warp 10 a long time ago.
  • carlosbflycarlosbfly Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Some really nice designs for the Feds, feels the right mix of capturing the style but evolving it. Good job there. I won't be buying as they obviously are Cruisers built on tanking and support functions. Plus, having to grind out those Command trees to get half the bonus of these ships is in itself going to put a lot of consumers off. Not well thought out there.
  • colossusdark1colossusdark1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I hate to say it, but the romulan ships do look the bgest, the klingon ships are coming along nicely, but come on cryptic.. the fed command ships look like kludges made out of a 30 year old lego set while you were drunk on jaegermeister all week, did the spices bruise up your minds a little bit. Improvement needed.
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