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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Great... now I'm gonna have to spend a fortune (*cough*EC*cough*) on those uniforms for all/most of my characters...

    Still, I have to admit, there is A LOT of interesting additions coming with this box.

    The only downside for me is that the APU ship will probably be a 9-console ship, just as the Kazon Raider. At this point I'm not really interested, especially since the T5U variant - which we still have to pay for - is just substandard at this point.


    Can we get some insight as to what ground weapon types of Vaadwaur Polaron Weaponry are going to be available?
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    oh... oh my god

    There is more in it that I want than thought..

    I will buy those damn costumes anyway, even when they remind me of Peter Quill's uniform :D

    and that double pistole

    and the Lead foot trait

    and the Escort

    and the Battlecruiser
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    They look pretty bad, they put black outlines on a bunch of stuff making the images look very cheap and dated like Champions Online. It's almost like they thought we would be too stupid to be able to visually separate the ship/weapon from the background, so they did it for us.

    Yeah, that was my first thought as well - am I looking at the STO or CO webpage? Looks pretty bad for STO and what we're used to.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    save lobbi for sup trait... faw power boost with leech :)

    edit: not enough lobbi... and it's per character and not account wide...
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    suaveks wrote: »
    Great... now I'm gonna have to spend a fortune (*cough*EC*cough*) on those uniforms for all/most of my characters...

    Still, I have to admit, there is A LOT of interesting additions coming with this box.

    The only downside for me is that the APU ship will probably be a 9-console ship, just as the Kazon Raider. At this point I'm not really interested, especially since the T5U variant - which we still have to pay for - is just substandard at this point.


    Can we get some insight as to what ground weapon types of Vaadwaur Polaron Weaponry are going to be available?

    I think the APU replaces the Mirror Ships, but is upgradeable.
  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    Space trait is garbage. "I'm gonna sit stationary, dropping my defense to zero, and in exchange for that I get: -25% damage resist and some bonus damage."

    Are you guys high? Did you toke up one too much before posting this? The 'no defense while stationary' should easily pay for literally any amount of damage boost and you felt that you had to include '-25% damage resist on self'?
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    kintisho wrote: »
    Someone better answer that phone... Because I F$%@#$G called it!!!!

    Given that we get to fly a Vaadwaur ship in one of the story missions, and that the Elachi ships came out the next lockbox after LoR, predicting a Vaadwaur lockbox was about as difficult as predicting the sunrise.

    Seperately, I'm just so disappointed in that trait. I mean if you want a balanced game you buff the currently-junk powers. Instead a buff to FAW? Pathetic.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Yeah, buff subsystem targeting to be more useful
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  • tonnbarttonnbart Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Does the supremacy trait stack with plasmonic leech or the maco shield?
    Could be that the three are mutually exclusive.
  • mvp333mvp333 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Swast... er. Astika-class Heavy Battlecruiser? Supremacy trait? Coincidence? Maybe? Ish?
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Ermehgerd!!! Will get everything... don't care what it takes i will become the enemy and, destroy the alliance!!! Death to all who stand in the way of the vaadwaur supremacy!!!! HA HA HA.... sorry whats going on?
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    On those Vaadwaur costumes:

    Star Lord, man. Legendary space outlaw.
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Coming to STO on Thursday...

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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    For those freaking out about the supremacy trait? Chill. It's not that big a deal. Most FAW cruisers are running plasmonic and EPTx3 skills, and/or A2Bat depending on what you like. Couple that with other power boosts and most are running nearly full power as-is. They ARE already at the cap for weapons power. This will simply let folks bypass the need for a plasmonic to do the same. Instead of buying a console with ECs off the exchange, people will open lockboxes for lobi and buy it from there (only difference is this way Cryptic pockets the money from keys).

    In short, it's just a monetization of an existing console by making said console obsolete and charging you real money for the replacement.

    Power creep? Yes. A bit. ERMAGAHD!? No.

    900 lobi are still a freaking high price to pay.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jademcog wrote: »
    So how many Vaders and Starlords are we going to start seeing pop up?

    Well, if you have all of the Lobi costumes, you should also be able to do a reasonable Shredder.

    Actually, I'm looking at those gloves.

    We're getting very close to a proper Captain Proton/space buccaneer look if you mix the Odyssey ops pants, Mirror Enterprise top, Vaadwaur gloves, mining goggles, holiday scarf, etc. Maybe the Mirror sash. I may go full Buck Rogers in at least one costume slot.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ...another lockbox, another slew of features that would have made more of an impact if they were added to the base game instead of being locked behind a paywall...
  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    THAT UNIFORM I WANT THAT UNIFORM THAT UNIFORM I WANT THAT UNIFORM THAT UNIFORM I WANT THAT--

    *Ahem*

    Also, a tank pet, and an APU ship? This is now officially my favourite lock box ever.
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Brown trenchcoats aims me towards misbehaving.

    The astika trait looks scary.

    Looking forward to possibly being on the giving end of those blasted polaron barrages.
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  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    On those Vaadwaur costumes:

    Star Lord, man. Legendary space outlaw.

    Who? :P

    *Character limit dance*
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Brown trenchcoats aims me towards misbehaving.

    The astika trait looks scary.

    Looking forward to possibly being on the giving end of those blasted polaron barrages.

    First, there are long brown (and black) coats already. Look them up on the exchange. Pretty cheap for an outfit. They're from past winter events and look fairly good.

    Second, using the polaron barrage yourself, you'll be disappointed. You could use it on the mission where you flew the ship to the Vaadwaur homeworld.

    Here's the secret: NPCs are freaking cheats. Literally. When an NPC Negh'Var fires an isometric charge it could and WOULD wipe out your entire 5-man team on pre-DR CSE if they were all within bounce range. Happened a number of times. But if YOU grav well several ships together, pepper them with FAW or CSV, drop warp plasma on them *and* fire ISO so that it bounces back and forth between them all? You might tickle them.

    Slightly.

    Just because you hate how the NPC polaron barrage works doesn't mean you'll get to return the favor. Nope. You'll get the sucky nerfed version of it. NPCs get the Game of Thrones version, you get the Dora the Explorer version.


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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    wardcalis wrote: »
    absolutely nothing about starship traits from opposing factions. WTF I want a trait from a KDF ship on my romulan
    At this point I just want A new KDF/ROM ship...
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I'd like to say I'm looking forward to the anniversary, but I can't. PvP is gone, PvE is a zombie cemetery, another grind for yet another ship, a lock box that looking at supremacy doesn't bode well at all.

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  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Polaron weapons that debuff shield hardness against energy and kinetic weapons?

    Done properly, that could be delicious.

    Might get an APU ship, just so i can equip it with with yellow weapons and pretend its a goa'uld hatak. Yeah, I am that nerdy.

    Nice to see more R and D doffs too.

    Other than that pretty meh IMO. Genetic resequencers suck this time don't they.

    Why no cross faction console or ship trait pack?
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  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    shpoks wrote: »
    What the hell is wrong with those pictures?? :confused:

    Glad it wasn't just me thinking that. Cartoony doesn't do it justice, even the web pages are suffering these days...
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    dave18193 wrote: »
    Other than that pretty meh IMO. Genetic resequencers suck this time don't they.

    I dunno. 10% bonus to TR-116s sounds pretty nasty.
  • echodarksidedechodarksided Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    10000 xp is considered a large R&D XP boost? A passive boost equal to 30 hours of passive R&D xp in a system that can span many months is a major reward?

    I think your 10,000 and 2,000 XP bonus pools for R&D are each missing a zero. When I subtract 10,000 from the total XP required to level the 7 R&D schools, I think suggesting 10K XP is a large boost is more than a bit misleading.

    White DOFFs or Purple DOFFs in the pack? The answer is the difference between a lock box players can get EC back on from opening, and a lock box that leaves a player with a bunch of stuff no one else wants either.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Every time a new lockbox comes out I feel weird, because it's always the T5 filler ship that interests me most.

    What is the general consensus on the APU ship? My hope is everyone hates it, so it'll be cheap :)
  • sohtohsohtoh Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Worffan101, does the APU ship remind you of anything?

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  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I find it rather insulting the addition of "half <whatever> vs. players" flags to powers. It's common knowledge that the devs do not care about PvP. On that note, I hate most everything in that lockbox. So much unbalance. But who's counting anyway?

    The only good thing is the costume set.
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sohtoh wrote: »
    Worffan101, does the APU ship remind you of anything?

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3089/2902823499_c7a9f18130_z.jpg?zz=1

    I was thinking Basestar. Even more Basestarrish than the Sheshar.

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