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  • kdawgenigmakdawgenigma Member Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    Get me reference images and I will see what I can do. I am not making any promises, but I want you to get what you want in game.

    -Swall


    Have never heard these words come from a devs mouth on this forum before. We, too, want us to get what we want in game yet grinding is still here on an insane scale.

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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Have never heard these words come from a devs mouth on this forum before. We, too, want us to get what we want in game yet grinding is still here on an insane scale.
    well, don't complain to him about it; the art lead can't do a damn thing about it
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    Get me reference images and I will see what I can do. I am not making any promises, but I want you to get what you want in game.

    -Swall

    Tolian Soran's Disruptor

    Another reference picture.

    Edited my original post to reflect the new links.

    The reference pictures don't really capture the animation that the barrel of his gun is animated and moves to a 90 degree angle when it's in use. From an STO perspective it'd make sense if this animation happened when you entered Red Alert or Shooter Mode. From its appearance in Generations, it'd most closely resemble a Compression Bolt pistol.

    This is a gun I've shamelessly desired in STO since 2010.
    rattler2 wrote: »
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    Thanks for that. It's funny, I was using a GIS for the pistol to find an image where the pistol's barrel isn't at the 90 degree angle and your post came up in the results.
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  • kdawgenigmakdawgenigma Member Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    well, don't complain to him about it; the art lead can't do a damn thing about it

    Oh I know that. Just wanted to throw that out there. At least one person is offering to listen to us.

    -Rule of Acquisition #113: Always have sex with the boss.
    -I am one of the many victims from the hijacked Caspian Division.
    I will not let the childish acts of a criminal ruin this game for me.
    -The actions of Cryptic, on the other hand......
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    Thanks for that. It's funny, I was using a GIS for the pistol to find an image where the pistol's barrel isn't at the 90 degree angle and your post came up in the results.

    Really? Wow. I just hope all the pics I found were relatively good references.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    i think what i would love most of all was if existing weapons were all shrunk by like... 50%.

    Yeah, scaling them down would be a nice quick fix. The mk I phaser models just look so silly in the hands of the Voyager cast...
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    Get me reference images and I will see what I can do. I am not making any promises, but I want you to get what you want in game.

    -Swall

    Here's my post with links to a photo of the actual breen gun from ds9:
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=21950391&postcount=14

    Thank you for anything you are able to do!
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    Get me reference images and I will see what I can do. I am not making any promises, but I want you to get what you want in game.

    -Swall

    Not to be rude, but wouldn't you be able to google them quite easily?
    They aren't really obscure weapons, but major props.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    Yes he could, but knowing exactly what WE, the community, want is what he's asking for. We tell him what we want, and even provide some reference material, he can look up more and work on something for us. That way, there is interaction between the community and a Dev.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    artan42 wrote: »
    Not to be rude, but wouldn't you be able to google them quite easily?
    They aren't really obscure weapons, but major props.

    I'm okay with meeting game developers halfway.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    iconians wrote: »
    I'm okay with meeting game developers halfway.

    I agree, if you want something specific, you need to be prepared to show specifically what you want.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    I agree, if you want something specific, you need to be prepared to show specifically what you want.

    ^ This. Being able to help in some way and seeing a final product... even if you don't get any kind of credit, you can say "I helped with that, even if it was just finding a reference picture." :)
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Assimilate This Rifle

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  • swalldevswalldev Member Posts: 15 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2015
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!

    I have that sword soon on MK XIV

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,588 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    Pretty decent switch on the Tholian sword. Shifting the crystal to be integrated into the blade and extending it. Shiny.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!

    I would also love the accurate TR--preferably without being forced to buy it again just for a graphics update. ;)

    I also request the Cardassian rifle and pistol. My Cardassian Starfleet exchange officer would be forever in your debt.

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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!

    Yeah an accurate TR-116 would be awesome, that gun looked really nice in the show and it functions well in the game but looks just meh.

    Nice change on the sword, may actually make me get one. ;)
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!

    Well, if it keeps glowing the way it does when hit by an energy weapon, it's fine by me. Have to say up until now I've never seen the sword in such detail, anyway. It's true your new version looks a little more reasonable/logical.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    All these references have been very helpful. I will continue to check this thread from time to time. looks like an ip accurate tr-116 and Tolian Soran's disruptor pistol are the two most requested.

    I will see what I can do.

    just to inform you, I didnt like the tholian sword, here is a the update that you can expect in the future.

    Cheers!
    If I make a whole bunch of posts that say "breen rifle" can it be #3 on the list? :D

    And that's a nice, elegant sword. My melee-focused Vulcan looks forward to the change.
  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    gulberat wrote: »
    I also request the Cardassian rifle and pistol. My Cardassian Starfleet exchange officer would be forever in your debt.

    Seconding this. Here's a rifle reference from Memory Alpha, but I know it was shown in better detail in other episodes.

    Also, it would be nice if these could be worked in when the Cardassian arc is updated. All of the other arcs give us a special weapon related to who we're fighting, but the Cardassian arc only gets resonating tetryon space weapons and a special polaron full auto, nothing related to the Cardassians at all.
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Seconding this. Here's a rifle reference from Memory Alpha, but I know it was shown in better detail in other episodes.

    Also, it would be nice if these could be worked in when the Cardassian arc is updated. All of the other arcs give us a special weapon related to who we're fighting, but the Cardassian arc only gets resonating tetryon space weapons and a special polaron full auto, nothing related to the Cardassians at all.

    I thought this rifle was already in game although not one we could could use but used by the cardassian npc's
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I can't remember if that's the rifle they use or not, honestly, and I was just playing some of the Cardassian arc missions a few nights ago. Didn't look at them up close.
  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    I'd advise not to use that breen rifle and that cryptic instead make their own design if they so wish.

    It would not be right to take from a fan-production, in my eyes.
  • x3of9x3of9 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If I make a whole bunch of posts that say "breen rifle" can it be #3 on the list? :D

    And that's a nice, elegant sword. My melee-focused Vulcan looks forward to the change.

    Considering that the TR-116 is the Breen rifle with a transporter, added bit on the top of the breech, the targeting scroll-ball, and repainted:
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:TR-116.jpg

    I imagine that would make it quite a bit easier to get added. ;)
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'd advise not to use that breen rifle and that cryptic instead make their own design if they so wish.

    It would not be right to take from a fan-production, in my eyes.

    Which Breen rifle? This one: Rifle. If so, it isn't a fan design. It was seen twice in the show; once in the season 4 episode "Indiscretion" being used by Kira and Dukat in Breen disguise:

    http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x05/indiscretion_467.jpg

    http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x05/indiscretion_491.jpg

    http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x05/indiscretion_503.jpg

    http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x05/indiscretion_482.jpg

    And again later in the season 7 episode "What You Leave Behind":

    http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/7x25/leave_behind_091.jpg
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'd advise not to use that breen rifle and that cryptic instead make their own design if they so wish.

    It would not be right to take from a fan-production, in my eyes.

    Its not a fan prop, please read the link before making assumptions. It is the actual prop from ds9 donated to the renegades team by a collector.
  • swalldevswalldev Member Posts: 15 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2015
    gulberat wrote: »
    I would also love the accurate TR--preferably without being forced to buy it again just for a graphics update. ;)

    I also request the Cardassian rifle and pistol. My Cardassian Starfleet exchange officer would be forever in your debt.

    When we update the art it will update the crafted tr-116B and the target preorder.
    toiva wrote: »
    Well, if it keeps glowing the way it does when hit by an energy weapon, it's fine by me. Have to say up until now I've never seen the sword in such detail, anyway. It's true your new version looks a little more reasonable/logical.

    The visual effects will not change, it will look the same
    If I make a whole bunch of posts that say "breen rifle" can it be #3 on the list? :D

    And that's a nice, elegant sword. My melee-focused Vulcan looks forward to the change.

    Once we make the tr-116 it will be very easy to make the breen rifle.
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  • adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    I thought this rifle was already in game although not one we could could use but used by the cardassian npc's

    well i have a pair hanging on my ready room wall so the asset definitely exisits in game in at least that capacity
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    swalldev wrote: »
    When we update the art it will update the crafted tr-116B and the target preorder.

    Thanks for clearing that worry up. :)

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