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baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
It's quite simple.

For a while now, people have been using the +Plasma consoles from the Fleet Embassy, the ones that give all of your energy weapons a Plasma DOT.

But there's more!

Using +Beam damage consoles, including the ones from the Fleet Spire, will boost your Plasma Burn damage!

People have started to refer to this as "Plasma Doping", and quite a few of the DPS channel uses this tactic.

The +Plasma Burn damage apparently offsets the damage loss from using +Energy Specific consoles quite easily.
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  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited January 2015
    Fight Club, dude... Fight Club.
    I AM WAR.
  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    inb4dopingnerf :P

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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Damn, I was hoping the answer was "play another game !" .




    ... alas, it was not to be ... -- thanks for trying to help though ! :)
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    inb4dopingnerf :P

    Its been here since they added the embassy. I doubt anything is going to change because it's been mentioned on the forums recently.

    And as much as it might satisfy a persecution complex the devs probably aren't trauling the forums to find inspiration for the next great nerf. If anything they can just use the in-game statistics, we're here if they need a circus.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    And as much as it might satisfy a persecution complex the devs probably aren't trauling the forums to find inspiration for the next great nerf. If anything they can just use the in-game statistics, we're here if they need a circus.

    Devs on their own official forums? How 90s.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    and if this gets nerfed, you're gonna be tarred and feathered, you know?
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited January 2015
    The real secret is to buy the MK X versions and upgrade for a greater chance of rarity crit.

    Oops... Fight Club. Darn it.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    And some people still argue that skill>gear in this game.
    Because doing 15k+ dps with a single console is being skilled :D
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    They were skilled enough to avoid the newb trap and not use the obvious console.
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Remember the scene with kirk and emmett brown as a kling "because you wish it"?

    Well that's my take on cryptic's dil paid dps.
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    and if this gets nerfed, you're gonna be tarred and feathered, you know?

    I'll just flee to a system that doesn't have extradition laws
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Most folks on the DPS channel I talk to about the +pla consoles say it's a drop in the bucket and not really a factor.

    I don't know where you're getting that they change your build to a miracle killer. Even when I used them, the plasma proc was miniscule.
  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    nom nom nerf nom nom it! nom
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  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Nerf incoming in 5...4...3...
  • shandypandyshandypandy Member Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Plasma doping: sounds like summat out of a bobbins Quincy episode involving PCP.
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  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Doing the opposite of pvpers? :cool:
  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sinn74 wrote: »
    Nerf incoming in 5...4...3...

    Or, to paraphrase Obisek from the Mirror Invasion event:
    "Firing Cryptic plasma nerf in 3...2...1..."
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Plasma doping: sounds like summat out of a bobbins Quincy episode involving PCP.

    It's a reference to Blood Doping that has been used in competitive sporting events.
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited January 2015
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  • chaelkchaelk Member Posts: 5,727 Arc User
    edited January 2015
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Does this mean I can use my Phasers on my federation ships without gimping myself for not using romulan plasma/antiproton? I wanna use phasers on fed ships. :(
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sonnikku wrote: »
    Does this mean I can use my Phasers on my federation ships without gimping myself for not using romulan plasma/antiproton? I wanna use phasers on fed ships. :(

    Sure does!

    Just remember to stack your Sci Consoles with the Plasma Damage Fleet Embassy consoles.

    Then stack your Tac Consoles with +Beam Damage Vulnerability Locators.

    You'll have Plasma Burn damage (and it even matches the color of the weapon, so if you're using standard Phasers, you'll have Orange burns) at a decently high number.
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Does this little trick of yours mean the beams are 17X more efficient/powerful? Because, if they are...
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  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I saw a comment about this last night on STOBuilds reddit. First I had heard of extra plasma damage from +Beam instead of weapon specific. Makes sense too as the Plasma burn proc is handled as a weapon created damage same as Plasma weapons. Best thing about it is it is apparently more effective if you use any beam other than plasma.

    Sounds good to me as it allows more variety than the current charge for AP beams.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rsoblivion wrote: »
    I saw a comment about this last night on STOBuilds reddit. First I had heard of extra plasma damage from +Beam instead of weapon specific. Makes sense too as the Plasma burn proc is handled as a weapon created damage same as Plasma weapons. Best thing about it is it is apparently more effective if you use any beam other than plasma.

    Sounds good to me as it allows more variety than the current charge for AP beams.
    If you use plasma, it doesn't do the burn proc at all. Instead it acts like a mini-tac console.
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  • paxdawnpaxdawn Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It's quite simple.

    For a while now, people have been using the +Plasma consoles from the Fleet Embassy, the ones that give all of your energy weapons a Plasma DOT.

    But there's more!

    Using +Beam damage consoles, including the ones from the Fleet Spire, will boost your Plasma Burn damage!

    People have started to refer to this as "Plasma Doping", and quite a few of the DPS channel uses this tactic.

    The +Plasma Burn damage apparently offsets the damage loss from using +Energy Specific consoles quite easily.

    Depends on what your build is. Plasma doping is not assured on all builds. There are few builds that are dependent on plasma doping to do dps, Sci ships(highly dependent) and the likes of Galaxy R(slightly dependent).
    erei1 wrote: »
    And some people still argue that skill>gear in this game.
    Because doing 15k+ dps with a single console is being skilled :D

    Well it is. Even if placed you with the gears of the top dps players you will be lucky to even get 75k DPS. Why do you think there is a huge discrepancy between the Top Scimitar DPS player and all other Scimitar players even though almost identical builds? 160k dps down.

    There is a matter of positioning and getting a gdf which is a skill acquired through constant repetition of missions/grinding which whinning players in the forums dont like.

    There is also a matter of organization and group coordination which is a skill itself.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Most folks on the DPS channel I talk to about the +pla consoles say it's a drop in the bucket and not really a factor.

    I don't know where you're getting that they change your build to a miracle killer. Even when I used them, the plasma proc was miniscule.
    An epic embassy console is worth about 15K dps, up to ~20K. That's without the tac console to support it, just spamming BFAW to apply the dot everywhere. Before taking anything else into account, just the DOT.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    paxdawn wrote: »
    Well it is. Even if placed you with the gears of the top dps players you will be lucky to even get 75k DPS. Why do you think there is a huge discrepancy between the Top Scimitar DPS player and all other Scimitar players even though almost identical builds? 160k dps down.

    There is a matter of positioning and getting a gdf which is a skill acquired through constant repetition of missions/grinding which whinning players in the forums dont like.

    There is also a matter of organization and group coordination which is a skill itself.

    Timing of a lot of powers makes a huge difference. Look at the latest priority one podcast and the damage improvements in second and later runs. Same build but with practice and skill timing changes damage went way up.

    I remember one post where someone mentioned learning to use the romulan rep active power to survive attacking the spheres and cube after the right side in is a instead of using it to get from left to right past the gate making a huge jump in his numbers because he spent less time dead and more time hitting the big pack.

    Gear helps, but gear is additive, skill is a multiplyer. And that's why each gear change benifits the top players more than the masses. Their skill let's them use it more effectively.
  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lol I rarely hope for nerfz, but these silly DPS numbers are likely doped partially by this bug. Fix away!
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