Correct me if I'm wrong, but if an event is actually fun for the majority of people, wouldn't they do it even without needing to?
I think it's less about "crybabies" and more about "creating fun and engaging content".
^^^^THIS! This is the point we SHOULD be discussing! The main reason people were complaining, (myself included), was that we need to run the event a set number of times to get new "stuff". But no matter how many times I ran the event, the counter for the accolade still read that I'd only run it ONCE! Add to this the fact that myself and everyone else weren't getting any rewards at the end of that event and almost anyone will get to the point of "why bother doing this at all"?
So next time, keep the petty insult of "crybabies" to yourself. Because there just may be a legitimate reason for the majority to complain about something... Like a bug preventing anyone from getting rewards for running Tides of Ice.
Not "Tide of Ice" only. The whole winter event seems dead now (in my instance and at my play time).
The are only two or three other players who participated on the snowball fight or on "Tide of ice".
The race for the ship seems the only part of the winter event wich is not affected.
If Cryptic and the playerbase dont react on that, i wont play the winter event any longer (except the race) and will get my winter items trough doffing.
There are a lot of bugs in the event. No rewards at the end of "Tide of ice", there come snowballs from under the ice during the snowball fight and the snowballs look very dirty now.
Given their track record regarding "testing" on Tribble, they would just ignore the feedback anyways and call it a success :rolleyes:
A friend of mine from Vermont would call that "Declaring Aiken."
George Aiken was a senator from Vermont. He is famous for allegedly saying basically that the United States should declare Victory in Vietnam and get out. Like many such "quotes" it's not actually accurate...
"Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
Did 10 on each of my 4 primary characters and stopped before the account so the change never affected me.
Payout is not exactly whoopie doo-daa.
Busy grinding elsewhere - get winter items from doffing every 4hrs by logging on 8 characters as opposed to being timegated by tides. Even then winter items I don't need now as I've boguht everything so back to the grind for resources I need.
VO annoys me no end - can only take so much of "coming down all four lanes" repeatedly so quickly turned my audio off.
Other stuff I'd rather do/have to do.
So yeah it was fun but Cryptic compell me to grind DR or for it or being pushed away from the game to do other things I enjoy more.
I have to say, I was poleaxed when I saw that instead of fixing it, they just removed the store unlocks.
A stitch in time saves nine Cryptic.
That's what they could do on a Thursday before patching the game on a Friday. Did you want to wait until the next Tuesday or Thursday before anyone who hadn't unlocked the store could buy anything from it?
They made a quick and dirty fix so weekend players wouldn't feel screwed.
I have to say, I was poleaxed when I saw that instead of fixing it, they just removed the store unlocks.
A stitch in time saves nine Cryptic.
I have to say, I was poleaxed when I saw that after 2 weeks of whining about the store unlock requirement, the removal of said requirement spawned only more whining...
NOT! I knew that was going to happen. Because that's what always happens. :rolleyes:
I have to say, I was poleaxed when I saw that after 2 weeks of whining about the store unlock requirement, the removal of said requirement spawned only more whining...
NOT! I knew that was going to happen. Because that's what always happens. :rolleyes:
I thought what people are complaining about now is that the completion rewards are broken. I know I would like to get the accolade.
"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."
Douglas MacArthur - Quote on the dedication plaque of the U.S.S. Ranger NCC-97332-A Armitage class Fleet Heavy Strike Wing Escort.
TBH it's a good thing. That requirement was a drag and utterly pointless.
If they had actually fixed the rewards and accolade from the event it would be a different story, but no, they didn't so it sucks.
It was a basic lane defence game which failed a lot and broke even more. I don't understand how that happened, but I would assume it's a mix of coder arrogance and lack of testing.
Chris Robert's on SC:
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Good: Account-wide unlocks are awesome and should be used more.
Bad: Now some of us accolade hunters are going to be half-way completed through an accolade that can no longer be acquired, particularly those of us who decided to be patient and enjoy Winter Wonderland instead of burning through that content as fast as humanly possible. Which, last I checked, is something Cryptic wanted to discourage players from doing.
It's just like that stupid "Inspired" accolade. 2/3 completion because there is no central Spire in the Undine Battlezone to fly through.
Good: Account-wide unlocks are awesome and should be used more.
Bad: Now some of us accolade hunters are going to be half-way completed through an accolade that can no longer be acquired, particularly those of us who decided to be patient and enjoy Winter Wonderland instead of burning through that content as fast as humanly possible. Which, last I checked, is something Cryptic wanted to discourage players from doing.
It's just like that stupid "Inspired" accolade. 2/3 completion because there is no central Spire in the Undine Battlezone to fly through.
The moment I heard the news they were going to do the merge I go mine out the way. It's sad to say I expect Cryptic to TRIBBLE things up and this was no exception that's the reputation they've been feeding the community. Put stuff out without proper Q&A, leave things for as long as they can unless it harms their interests and then fix often with a nerf. In some cases they rush a fix out that breaks more than it fixes it's hard to remember times when they do something unforeseen that no one reported, and fix it properly in the shortest time.
The moment I heard the news they were going to do the merge I go mine out the way. It's sad to say I expect Cryptic to TRIBBLE things up and this was no exception that's the reputation they've been feeding the community. Put stuff out without proper Q&A, leave things for as long as they can unless it harms their interests and then fix often with a nerf. In some cases they rush a fix out that breaks more than it fixes it's hard to remember times when they do something unforeseen that no one reported, and fix it properly in the shortest time.
It's sad that I have to be concerned over potential fears getting accolades and whatnot out of the way as soon as new content hits, burning myself out on the game as a result of these short-sighted 'fixes' that hinder me from enjoying the game at my own pace.
From my prospective, the event is dead due to being heavily bugged and not actually giving rewards most of the time. The event itself is fun but if i don't get rewarded for completing it, then i will go and play something else to get the rewards I want.
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Feels like the rewards definitely got nerfed. I walked in with no Winter items and walked out with a couple of targ earmuffs. That's all. I was there from the beginning to the very end.
That might be why no one is playing it now. Hardly worth the effort.
that would cause people not to want to waste they're time
They're just not being scheduled properly...if people knew what time to be there, like how events used to be scheduled daily, there would be better attendance.
Every game should be playable at all times, but also special events, the same way Mirror, Crystalline and Vault Shuttle used to be.
The Queues are dead and they're not coming back...
does it count that people are playing it because they are forced to do so, and miserable over it? Meh. Now it has people doing it who actually want to do it. If no one is doing it now, perhaps it was not all that fun?
Feels like the rewards definitely got nerfed. I walked in with no Winter items and walked out with a couple of targ earmuffs. That's all. I was there from the beginning to the very end.
That might be why no one is playing it now. Hardly worth the effort.
TO me it fun and that's whyI do it ifI am there when it happens. Tte Winter currencies I get more from DOFFing so those are not a bother for me.
The only problem I have is that I don't know when it is happeneing unlessI am already in WW when it starts. Let's sayi t starts at 45 past the hour and I am at the bank at sat 40 minutes past the hour, then I could hop to WW ready for the Snorg invasion.
They're just not being scheduled properly...if people knew what time to be there, like how events used to be scheduled daily, there would be better attendance.
Every game should be playable at all times, but also special events, the same way Mirror, Crystalline and Vault Shuttle used to be.
The Queues are dead and they're not coming back...
It happens every hour on the hour and additionally every three hours also at 15 till.
I think the Tides Event is pretty fun, but I don't like waiting for the top of the hour to participate...if I'm there when it happens, great I'll participate. but I'm not going to return just to do Winter Tides every hour..
I think the mission wouldve worked better as a 20 man PvE Queue.
The Winter Invasion Queue has almost no wait time... I feel the same would be more or less true with Tides.
From my prospective, the event is dead due to being heavily bugged and not actually giving rewards most of the time. The event itself is fun but if i don't get rewarded for completing it, then i will go and play something else to get the rewards I want.
This.
Completed it twice since it was "fixed" no end rewards either time.
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I would play it more. I just don't have enough time. With real life, making videos and doing doffing.
It's because there's no reward after wave ten and there's no progress towards the accolade.
^^^^THIS! This is the point we SHOULD be discussing! The main reason people were complaining, (myself included), was that we need to run the event a set number of times to get new "stuff". But no matter how many times I ran the event, the counter for the accolade still read that I'd only run it ONCE! Add to this the fact that myself and everyone else weren't getting any rewards at the end of that event and almost anyone will get to the point of "why bother doing this at all"?
So next time, keep the petty insult of "crybabies" to yourself. Because there just may be a legitimate reason for the majority to complain about something... Like a bug preventing anyone from getting rewards for running Tides of Ice.
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Given their track record regarding "testing" on Tribble, they would just ignore the feedback anyways and call it a success :rolleyes:
Cryptic: If you think the bugs are bad, wait until you see our fixes!
You could do that any time, 24/7, with no breaks in between.
Have you met everyone's good friend, "Argala?"
Everyone's run through her. Repeatedly.
This! For the love of all that is molten to all that is frozen to all that burns to all that explodes THIS!
The are only two or three other players who participated on the snowball fight or on "Tide of ice".
The race for the ship seems the only part of the winter event wich is not affected.
If Cryptic and the playerbase dont react on that, i wont play the winter event any longer (except the race) and will get my winter items trough doffing.
There are a lot of bugs in the event. No rewards at the end of "Tide of ice", there come snowballs from under the ice during the snowball fight and the snowballs look very dirty now.
A stitch in time saves nine Cryptic.
Not me, I just do duty officer stuff til I meet requirements for next episode mission.
I am 58 atm.
A friend of mine from Vermont would call that "Declaring Aiken."
George Aiken was a senator from Vermont. He is famous for allegedly saying basically that the United States should declare Victory in Vietnam and get out. Like many such "quotes" it's not actually accurate...
Payout is not exactly whoopie doo-daa.
Busy grinding elsewhere - get winter items from doffing every 4hrs by logging on 8 characters as opposed to being timegated by tides. Even then winter items I don't need now as I've boguht everything so back to the grind for resources I need.
VO annoys me no end - can only take so much of "coming down all four lanes" repeatedly so quickly turned my audio off.
Other stuff I'd rather do/have to do.
So yeah it was fun but Cryptic compell me to grind DR or for it or being pushed away from the game to do other things I enjoy more.
That's what they could do on a Thursday before patching the game on a Friday. Did you want to wait until the next Tuesday or Thursday before anyone who hadn't unlocked the store could buy anything from it?
They made a quick and dirty fix so weekend players wouldn't feel screwed.
I have to say, I was poleaxed when I saw that after 2 weeks of whining about the store unlock requirement, the removal of said requirement spawned only more whining...
NOT! I knew that was going to happen. Because that's what always happens. :rolleyes:
I thought what people are complaining about now is that the completion rewards are broken. I know I would like to get the accolade.
Douglas MacArthur - Quote on the dedication plaque of the U.S.S. Ranger NCC-97332-A Armitage class Fleet Heavy Strike Wing Escort.
If they had actually fixed the rewards and accolade from the event it would be a different story, but no, they didn't so it sucks.
It was a basic lane defence game which failed a lot and broke even more. I don't understand how that happened, but I would assume it's a mix of coder arrogance and lack of testing.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Bad: Now some of us accolade hunters are going to be half-way completed through an accolade that can no longer be acquired, particularly those of us who decided to be patient and enjoy Winter Wonderland instead of burning through that content as fast as humanly possible. Which, last I checked, is something Cryptic wanted to discourage players from doing.
It's just like that stupid "Inspired" accolade. 2/3 completion because there is no central Spire in the Undine Battlezone to fly through.
The moment I heard the news they were going to do the merge I go mine out the way. It's sad to say I expect Cryptic to TRIBBLE things up and this was no exception that's the reputation they've been feeding the community. Put stuff out without proper Q&A, leave things for as long as they can unless it harms their interests and then fix often with a nerf. In some cases they rush a fix out that breaks more than it fixes it's hard to remember times when they do something unforeseen that no one reported, and fix it properly in the shortest time.
It's sad that I have to be concerned over potential fears getting accolades and whatnot out of the way as soon as new content hits, burning myself out on the game as a result of these short-sighted 'fixes' that hinder me from enjoying the game at my own pace.
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Irrelevant.
Some people enjoy accolade hunting. I'm one of them.
Not everything in the game has to be about the almighty grind.
Hopefully, eventually they'll release STO Classic, which will be close enough to the real thing that we'll forget that it really isn't.
Thank you powers that be... thank you.
that would cause people not to want to waste they're time
Every game should be playable at all times, but also special events, the same way Mirror, Crystalline and Vault Shuttle used to be.
The Queues are dead and they're not coming back...
TO me it fun and that's whyI do it ifI am there when it happens. Tte Winter currencies I get more from DOFFing so those are not a bother for me.
The only problem I have is that I don't know when it is happeneing unlessI am already in WW when it starts. Let's sayi t starts at 45 past the hour and I am at the bank at sat 40 minutes past the hour, then I could hop to WW ready for the Snorg invasion.
It happens every hour on the hour and additionally every three hours also at 15 till.
I think the mission wouldve worked better as a 20 man PvE Queue.
The Winter Invasion Queue has almost no wait time... I feel the same would be more or less true with Tides.
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This.
Completed it twice since it was "fixed" no end rewards either time.