Daily Mark boxes no longer have the bonus applied to them during Bonus Marks Weekend events.
Ok granted, it's only for the bonus Mark events, but still, why? Of all the things to nerf, this one makes the least sense to me.
The only thing I can think of, would be the Dilithium gains with them at the end of a rep project or by turning in marks. But even then, I can't picture it being so huge it needed this change.
Maybe one of you Gurus can better explain why this was done, it's very possible I'm missing it all together.
I am convinced Cryptic has grown bored of handling STO and is nerfing everything they can to get the players to leave so they can wipe their hands clean of it all..
What's next? Dilithium earned from missions will not longer have the bonus applied to the double dilithium weekend events? This will be for mining only...? And only on non-fleet mines? Or better still, the VIP mining claims will no longer apply to the dbl wekeends....
This is the truth... your whole post reeks of truth. Think of the stock market... you buy low and wait until the opportune time to sell high. Imagine if you were told "Sorry, you can't sell those stocks at a higher price because we feel you'd make 17x too much profit and we feel thats exploitive.
Some people were curious as to why Delta came out with Mark Boxes that did not auto open like all the rest. Simple answer is that the code for Delta Mark Boxes was written before the code changes to the others and was on different development code track. They then never got around to merging it in with the other existing Mark box routines.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This is one of Cryptic's many problems. After the fact they decide that they don't like how they designed something, change it, and then punish the players for having played that particular element as it was originally designed, calling them exploiters.
You know, I've been critical of this company since the beginning. Even so, there have been times where I've been on their side and other times when I've been on the players' side, while most of the time staying neutral. But I have recently begun to realize something:
I am starting to HATE cryptic as a company. There is no defending the tactics they have been taking, particularly those they have employed since Delta Rising launched. I think that the time may soon come when I will walk away from this game for good. I already don't play the game. The last time I logged in was when the new uniforms were gifted to us, and I put all my characters in them. I haven't even run a single DOff assignment since then.
I am at the point where I simply couldn't care less. And it is all because Cryptic/PWE cannot be bothered to develop a game. All they know how to do is produce monetized grindfests. Grindfests bore me to hell and back. So yeah... I am getting close to being so done with Cryptic.
As it stands now, I would not recommend this or any other Cryptic title to even my worst enemy, let alone my friends.
My biggest beef with the game used to be because it wasn't Star Trek enough. Now it's because it isn't even game enough. Games are supposed to be fun. Challenging but fun. When I play a game, I do not want to feel like I am working a second job that I don't get paid for. That is what STO has become for me.
right, allowing players to benefit from multiple daily bonuses over the course of a single bonus event was completely intentional :rolleyes:
they removed the boxes pre-DR for this very reason, letting them back in was the TRIBBLE up
players are just mad because they finaly got around to closing a loophole that's been around for so long
Cryptic's reasoning is just so backwards these days. If I have 10 Delta daily mark boxes, did I not log in and played something that awarded Delta marks on 10 different days? So what if I saved up 10 Delta daily mark boxes, I should get bonus marks for them in exchange for playing the content on 10 different days.
Don't forget, just because the daily mark boxes have the word "bonus" in their names, it's not really a bonus. The daily mark boxes were designed to reward players for logging in on a daily basis and playing a bit of content. Overall, the mission mark rewards were actually decreased so players who play a lot on a non-daily basis were actually punished.
"Is our content so bad, so unrewarding, that players would hold onto daily mark boxes for months to open them during a bonus mark event? Nope, better nerf these daily mark boxes so players spend more time playing our bad, unrewarding content."
Cryptic's reasoning is just so backwards these days. If I have 10 Delta daily mark boxes, did I not log in and played something that awarded Delta marks on 10 different days? So what if I saved up 10 Delta daily mark boxes, I should get bonus marks for them in exchange for playing the content on 10 different days.
Don't forget, just because the daily mark boxes have the word "bonus" in their names, it's not really a bonus. The daily mark boxes were designed to reward players for logging in on a daily basis and playing a bit of content. Overall, the mission mark rewards were actually decreased so players who play a lot on a non-daily basis were actually punished.
"Is our content so bad, so unrewarding, that players would hold onto daily mark boxes for months to open them during a bonus mark event? Nope, better nerf these daily mark boxes so players spend more time playing our bad, unrewarding content."
the difference is the intention is to get bonuses for the daily marks earned DURING the bonus event
the only unfortunate thing is this clumsy "fix" negates some of the bonuses legitimately earned in that time frame
once again cryptic punishes everyone for the actions of a few
the difference is the intention is to get bonuses for the daily marks earned DURING the bonus event
Yeah no ... the original intention was to replace the Hourlies with something BIG aka "Bonus Mark Weekends" etc ... so turning in Mark Boxes within this Event (every ~SIX months) isn't something "beyond reasonable", if you know how it was "supposed to be" ...
Yeah no ... the original intention was to replace the Hourlies with something BIG aka "Bonus Mark Weekends" etc ... so turning in Mark Boxes within this Event (every ~SIX months) isn't something "beyond reasonable", if you know how it was "supposed to be" ...
Between the first time they had the Bonus Marks Event and the second their were six months. Since then it has been two to three months.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
That's rather annoying being as I've saved a load of mark boxes for the event. I doubt I'm alone, so that's why they've done it.
I am going to agree with your assessment. It seems the way they roll now on everything is you get rewarded for what you are doing now. Saving for a later time and benefiting from an event is not the way it is intended.
They indicated the bonus has begun so I opened the 250 box from Mirror. It rewarded 250.
Please note I'm not angry about this - just reporting.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
At the moment I don't want to do anything anymore. I have the feeling that everything I did the last 2 months I get punished for. They chance the rules so fast, I can't keep up.
This game is totally no fun to play ATM. If the point is to keep me a way. Than they did a fantastic job, that is exactly what i am doing right now.
Sooo Bonus Mark Payout seems to be completely random ... at least for me ... got some Bonus Marks from Stored Daily Boxes while not getting a Bonus from normal ones ... anyone else ? I'm confused ...
EDIT :
"Mark Package - Multiple Choice (20)"
Rewards :
30 Omega Marks
30 Nukura Marks
30 Dyson Marks
30 Undine Marks 20 Delta Marks
congrats Cryptic screwed up again ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
Sooo Bonus Mark Payout seems to be completely random ... at least for me ... got some Bonus Marks from Stored Daily Boxes while not getting a Bonus from normal ones ... anyone else ? I'm confused ...
EDIT :
"Mark Package - Multiple Choice (20)"
Rewards :
30 Omega Marks
30 Nukura Marks
30 Dyson Marks
30 Undine Marks 20 Delta Marks
congrats Cryptic screwed up again ...
It looks like special event boxes and delta boxes are disabled? Any others?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Oh for crying out loud the only reason you guys are complaining is because the delta rep marks drop as boxes instead of auto opening. I had already figured out that these boxes would not be affected by the Bonus Weekend when I saw the weekend show up on the calendar. Fugured anyone with enough common sense would be able to figure that out. If you want bonus marks either open lock boxes and get the bonus marks items or buy them from the exchange. Or just open you boxes, claim your marks and start pumping them into the delta projects. In a few days I will be done with the Delta rep on all of my (11) characters and I haven't been waiting for the weekend.
It looks like special event boxes and delta boxes are disabled? Any others?
Well the Thing is ... I got Bonus Marks from "Delta Alliance Daily Bonus Marks" (55/~77), while not getting them from regular "Delta Alliance Mark Package" (all of them stored) ... ~1h ago ... just tried again and did "Bug Hunt Advanced" and got 37/37 Marks from "Delta Alliance Mark Package" (normal) = not even getting Bonus Marks, for stuff being done during Bonus Mark Weekend ? Display Bug ? ... pretty confused right now ...
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
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I am convinced Cryptic has grown bored of handling STO and is nerfing everything they can to get the players to leave so they can wipe their hands clean of it all..
What's next? Dilithium earned from missions will not longer have the bonus applied to the double dilithium weekend events? This will be for mining only...? And only on non-fleet mines? Or better still, the VIP mining claims will no longer apply to the dbl wekeends....
This is the truth... your whole post reeks of truth. Think of the stock market... you buy low and wait until the opportune time to sell high. Imagine if you were told "Sorry, you can't sell those stocks at a higher price because we feel you'd make 17x too much profit and we feel thats exploitive.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
right, allowing players to benefit from multiple daily bonuses over the course of a single bonus event was completely intentional :rolleyes:
they removed the boxes pre-DR for this very reason, letting them back in was the TRIBBLE up
players are just mad because they finaly got around to closing a loophole that's been around for so long
Don't forget, just because the daily mark boxes have the word "bonus" in their names, it's not really a bonus. The daily mark boxes were designed to reward players for logging in on a daily basis and playing a bit of content. Overall, the mission mark rewards were actually decreased so players who play a lot on a non-daily basis were actually punished.
"Is our content so bad, so unrewarding, that players would hold onto daily mark boxes for months to open them during a bonus mark event? Nope, better nerf these daily mark boxes so players spend more time playing our bad, unrewarding content."
the difference is the intention is to get bonuses for the daily marks earned DURING the bonus event
the only unfortunate thing is this clumsy "fix" negates some of the bonuses legitimately earned in that time frame
once again cryptic punishes everyone for the actions of a few
Yeah no ... the original intention was to replace the Hourlies with something BIG aka "Bonus Mark Weekends" etc ... so turning in Mark Boxes within this Event (every ~SIX months) isn't something "beyond reasonable", if you know how it was "supposed to be" ...
That's something we can agree on ... :P
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I am going to agree with your assessment. It seems the way they roll now on everything is you get rewarded for what you are doing now. Saving for a later time and benefiting from an event is not the way it is intended.
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Please note I'm not angry about this - just reporting.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Bonus Mark Weekend ... "starts in 23h 28min" .... from Ingame Mission Journal "J" ...
Smirk made a forum post and FB post announcing it has started.
Interesting ... considering recent DEV Blog Quality, I'm gonna wait for an ingame - confirmation, though ...
Have we confirmed that ALL bonus boxes are nerfed?
This game is totally no fun to play ATM. If the point is to keep me a way. Than they did a fantastic job, that is exactly what i am doing right now.
EDIT :
"Mark Package - Multiple Choice (20)"
Rewards :
30 Omega Marks
30 Nukura Marks
30 Dyson Marks
30 Undine Marks
20 Delta Marks
congrats Cryptic screwed up again ...
It looks like special event boxes and delta boxes are disabled? Any others?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I get the option of 90 marks for Fleet, Omega, Nukara, Romulan, Dyson, Undine but only 60 for Delta.
So think the nerf from yesterday's patch is also applied to these boxes.
Well the Thing is ... I got Bonus Marks from "Delta Alliance Daily Bonus Marks" (55/~77), while not getting them from regular "Delta Alliance Mark Package" (all of them stored) ... ~1h ago ... just tried again and did "Bug Hunt Advanced" and got 37/37 Marks from "Delta Alliance Mark Package" (normal) = not even getting Bonus Marks, for stuff being done during Bonus Mark Weekend ? Display Bug ? ... pretty confused right now ...
I wonder how many thousands of subscribers they will lose over this one...
You get to.
Is the event actually going on today? Because it's supposed to start Thursday and the 250 boxes are supposed to get the bonus.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1311321