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You can blow stupid borg and other stuff with it - thats enough. :rolleyes:
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details are important here :rolleyes:
Don't pretend details matter like that will magically make this torp fair and balanced. It could be anyone in the game with a hull below 100k. Aren't you one of the abusers...err, I mean users of this torp? I know mini will probably hate me for this post since he's all about the 1-hit-wonder-shot, but this weapon is ****ing stupid.
Ok, here's a detail for you. I wandered into Kerrat during a little free-time and this lame-duck that has literally never killed me in the game before (after ~100 or so battles against him) killed me twice in a row shooting that torp spread from cloak. Ok, yeah, I'm out of practice and been doing too much PvE, but still, it's bull**** and you know it.
@DevolvedOne
So... by your own admission you were out of practice with PVP because of too much PVE. Someone kills you and now something must be OP :rolleyes:
Most especially so since the rules have drastically changed with DR's release.
@DevolvedOne
Do you have a combatlog of this?
Assuming you indeed had no debuffs affecting your resistance while having full shields, then it'd be highly unlikely to die from a Torp Spread.
Because that would mean, the combined raw damage of all the torps hitting you had to be high enough to eat through the innate kinetic resistance a ship shield provides, plus hull hitpoints with probably around 50% kinetic resist (+/- 10%), so that the net damage still remains enough to make you dead.
A simple plausibility check by looking at the new torpedo's stats tells you such an outcome would be highly unlikely, unless something fishy is going on.
We all know it's not unprecedenced, there was a torpedo once affected by a bug, so an educated guess would be to check if the new torpedo is being affected by such a bug.
Please collect some data (logs, video).
For Minimax, everything that helps him vaping people is fine and balanced, anything that prevents him doing so is bad and evil.
oh boohoo a torp that finally can do the same thing BO and a hundred other clickies have done for years. you have that little display damage window wile your waiting for respawn, was there JUST neutronic damage displayed there? sure you didn't have FOMM, APB, and some ionic storm all debuffing you to negative 50 hull res? was there any surgical strike DHC or beam hits too?
its a torp, so it still has to deal with around a 90% shield resistance to its kinetic damage. this torp has some built in rad damage, an energy damage type thats covered by any blanket res or all energy specific res, thanks to this it can soften or even breach shields before the knetic damage registers some times. but it shouldn't hit any harder then a DHC hit.
there's far to much new in DR to single any one thing out as the problem. the old meta is totally gone, tanking has been removed by the plethora of disables that deny you use of any station powers, intel force multipliers and pure damage buffs have rewritten every rule, and yes every space item in this rep is by far the best of their type
cryptic isnt going to walk any of it back ether, its only the beginning of the power creep that will eventually let players more easily cope with the massive hit points npcs have now. and if you cant beat tier 6 and delta rep, the solution is to join it. tier 5U is a joke, unable to use the most powerful game changing abilities in the game
Incorrect. It's probably just not you.
It *IS* just you :rolleyes:
I think it's perfectly balanced. If you brace for impact or tank kinetic, you'll survive.
Assuming his description of the event isn't omitting something relevant, then it would be indeed unlikely for *him* being the issue; outright dismissing his concern may be uncalled for. Wthout any combatlog we are just speculating.
Only in this game they are TRIBBLE.
I think its good to see a good torp (maybe this is a bit exagerated, but the point is that torps are too weak on this game).
And, just to talk about what is OP, lets talk about Cruisers and their A2B builds and how they deal more damage than escorts -_-
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FYI, such anecdotes aren't relevant in determining any bugs related to the Neutro Torp.
I once killed someone in Arena with something. Relevant?
just watch the CANON TV show
There aren't any bugs. The torpedo works as advertised. There are merely a number of whining children who have not yet adapted to a new form of game meta.
Slap on some monotanium and watch this big scary torpedo turn into gentle rain on your hull.
Personally, I won't even bother doing the above. I get insta-vaped by energy weapons far more frequently than by torpedoes. And that's OK.
It may be very well the case that there is nothing wrong with the torpodo. The OP however has voiced concern, implying that there may be something off with the torpedo.
No one here has provided any data yet to back up any claims. Provide data in a format that can be reviewed by a third party and it might answer any questions.
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there is something about that torpedo that is not right. Is doing way too much damage over shields, i got vaped with a single spread the other day, yes he was using apb3, but my escort run with over 50% kinetic resistences (not counting polarize hull), i was around 70% hull and 100% shields and the spread insta vaped me. And this was only 1 guy in that new benthan escort, no cloaking, no alpha. Take 2 o 3 vapers min-maxing damage with this torp and you have a instant team vape.
If that don't kill you, you always have the transport warhead, the radition of harpeng mk14, kinetic maget and a lot of stuff that you can't counter cause the you are stun with the viral torpedo trait. The worst part? people trying to tell me that is balanced lol, is 10x more powerfull than a BO and with 100% acc cause spread don't miss. Oh! i forgot, we also have the new iso cannon from the 3-set delta set (yep, the torpedo is part of that set) that have 100% shield penetration and is buffed with PG (nice addition to tractor repulsors uh?). The good part is that with this finally ddks found a way of get a kill in something better than a random pug in kerrat
Enjoy pvp!
i recorded something the other day, will try to upload it today.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
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Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
It's unthinkable for some people that a torpedo killed them, because they consider torpedoes to be joke weapons. They'd prefer to cry "nerf" than simply adapt.
Don't waste your time, i know the counters to kinetic damage. No one have problem dealing with rapid fire cause it dosn't do 1/10 of the damage than this torpedo does, and it can miss, and you can stop it really easy
And if you read before wrote the wall of text, you can see i'm talking about torp spread, no high yield (that can miss, is slow and can be destroyed). Torp spread with this thing is an i-win button, plain and simple
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
just for your information, targets dont "sits there" in pvp.
No you can't do the same, stop wasting your life in the forum and jump into an arena match before comming here with ridiculus arguments
Yeah i don't know nothing, i been playing pvp since the game came out to f2p. I played almost every ****ing pvp tournament that has been doned since then, and even got a few good results. So yes, i don't know nothing about pvp, in fact i never played arena, i just sit here in the forum and write wall of text without having even the small clue of how this game work...oh wait, thats you.
Do me a favor and ignore all my post, from know on, i won't waste a single minute of my life reading what you have to say, i don't care about the opinion of a guy that haven't been in a premade match in his life.
you seems to don't know what DR is. I already said i have over 50% of kinetic res, a monotanium won't do a ****, over 50% DR hits really hard
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)