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daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
First and foremost, this is NOT a ragequit.

I wanted to say I haven't been in game in at least a month, maybe 2. Originally I would only make blue parts for sale on the exchange. After a while I got requests for new stuff because I was the main fleet crafter for a LONG time. I was grinding my main's R&D for my fleet thinking eventually I'd get there. Then word came down that all the "new" gear would need an upgrade (and this would happen before the new shininess even had a chance to wear off). So I lost a good deal of steam and dedication right there. I have 4 skills at level 10 and 2 at level 5. But I said I'd make certain things for specific people, so I kept on. It didn't take long to realize I was incapable of getting all the loot I needed to do it, so I asked my fleet members to donate. They did in mass...and everything is still sitting in the fleet bank.

Now as I read this forum, I know I'm not alone. The drop rates for materials was low to begin with. Now the purple ones are basically unattainable in the numbers needed.

So I was thinking about the STFs and Fleet Actions and queued instances. I have been bored of them for a long while now and I was hoping for a decent return to them. I've read so far that the only change is the time it takes to finish and that the difficulty in advanced is still the same as elite. That isn't a comforting thought. I'm disappointed but overall not surprised.

Lastly, I have a blog I'm trying to use as a rewrite for this game...I have a few ideas drafted out and ready to develop but...I'm not sure I can continue it. Logging into this game is a chore for me emotionally. I want a game to feel like a simple escape, not a second job. This game is one retail job away for killing itself, and it seems it's trying to take it's players with it.

More than anything, I'm no longer interested in anything this game has to offer. It isn't just that I'm not a fan of VOY (I like DS9). It's the way the game is executed. Namely, the fact that it's no longer a Star Trek game and a typical over grindy Asian-style MMO. I realize I'm only beating a VERY dead horse here and all. But the premise of this game is pretty okay. The single biggest problem is the execution. Every gripe we have stems from that.

Anyway, I'll be waiting a LONG time before I do anything Delta Quadrant related. I might *maybe* log in again if I feel like doing a new blog post. But the game itself is basically over for me.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I understand how you feel. It's not really Star Trek anymore, rather a Frankenstein Trek created by haphazardly putting canon and made-up parts together into this ugly creature.
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    First and foremost, this is NOT a ragequit.

    It may not be a ragequit, but it's a "I quit" post. Honestly, the forums don't need to know if you're leaving. All you're doing is calling attention to yourself and all you're gonna get is a flurry of "Can I haz your stuff?" posts before it gets locked.

    If you're going to leave, leave. It'll still be here, despite what everyone else wants to say.
  • jarfarujarfaru Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The OP is right about one thing though, think back how new content was before PW bought the company. You didn't have to grind out lvl's to play the story. Now you do and its tied to you getting annoyed enough to buy xp boost. Some are saying its so you don't rush through the content but i'm not buying that. Since when did any mmo company worry about a player rushing through content.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Get in b4 anyone else, can I has ur stuffs? :P:D
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Get in b4 anyone else, can I has ur stuffs? :P:D

    That's kinda rude... just saying.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If you're going to leave, leave. It'll still be here, despite what everyone else wants to say.

    You didn't read the whole thing. I have no intention of actually quitting. Look at the last paragraph.
    My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
  • phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I get what you're saying OP. I wish Cryptic would give more options to people, keep the current difficulty yet have the old difficulty (with some scaling obviously) back for the more casual players too. Another big problem is the levelling in DR, I'm one of those odd people that doesn't mind blind "zombie" grinding because of my previous MMO experiences. However I do know that a lot of people expect to level via the story missions from 50 to 60... but that's simply impossible. There aren't even near enough missions to give the XP to gap the holes and replaying old missions is an option but you're better of grinding some of the new patrols because the ships give more and easier XP then replays for example. I wish Cryptic would keep more options open for players from all walks of habit so to speak.

    The queues are nice and the new additions are more then welcomed and appreciated but yes, I definitely understand your point, OP.
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    We all have to do what we want to do but at least give them a chance to tweak stuff...you're quitting less than a week after an expansion comes out.
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    We all have to do what we want to do but at least give them a chance to tweak stuff...you're quitting less than a week after an expansion comes out.

    If you've seen how this stuff goes from the release of the past seasons since LoRish, it's not getting much better from here.
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  • thegcbaconthegcbacon Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jarfaru wrote: »
    The OP is right about one thing though, think back how new content was before PW bought the company.

    Do you rly want to go bk to the Atari days? I rly don't think you're remembering those days the way they were.
  • n0vastaronen0vastarone Member Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    As Usual Cryptic dropped the ball, the massive HP increase doesnt work for leveling. We're still using old gear rated for the old content..so now everything takes forever to kill.


    I dont think they even test their stuff. They likely just fling it at a wall and use whatever sticks.


    Just feels like this expansion was the nail in the coffin telling me its time to move on. neither those money grubbers at PWE or the Cryptic boys n girls seem to understand what testing, beta testing and quality assurance is.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm logging in to do doffing, turn in contraband, run a few patrols for XP here and there... and mostly to watch for fleet invite requests.

    I'll give the queues a shot again next Thursday. Don't need marks except Delta, and don't hate myself enough to try getting those.
  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    If you've seen how this stuff goes from the release of the past seasons since LoRish, it's not getting much better from here.

    Yeah, but for some strange reason people just keep hoping it gets better. "Cryptic can do a 180 and fix everything." Sadly it just never happens. I still hope and pray anyway.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    Yeah, but for some strange reason people just keep hoping it gets better. "Cryptic can do a 180 and fix everything." Sadly it just never happens. I still hope and pray anyway.

    It's probably cuz despite the protest, people pay into it, thanks to the illusion of necessity (in short, the artificially created mindset which makes most players think they have to get all the latest stuff). So PWE sees the money roll in and tells Cryptic, "That release was good. Do it the same way, but push a little more money out of it." That's how we end up with this snowballing, out of control grindfest with pay-to-skip all over.

    It'll keep going on for years most likely because it makes money. At some point of course, the weight of it all will just collapse the system entirely.
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  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It may not be a ragequit, but it's a "I quit" post. Honestly, the forums don't need to know if you're leaving. All you're doing is calling attention to yourself and all you're gonna get is a flurry of "Can I haz your stuff?" posts before it gets locked.

    If you're going to leave, leave. It'll still be here, despite what everyone else wants to say.

    If youre struggling with reading comprehension. You should avoid posting and making it known. He admitted wants to log in. And that at times he will. I wouldnt call that an I Quit thread. I would call that feedback to Cryptic. Theyre sucking the fun out of the game for a little extra cash. And its effecting long term players.

    If there is any backbone to a game Subbed or F2P. Its the long term players. Theyre always here. They continue to pour cash in even when the game is between expansions and updates. If these players disappear. It wont matter that Cryptic has one off players popping up every few months. Their core gamers wont be around to prop the company up.
  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,544 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    thegcbacon wrote: »
    Do you rly want to go bk to the Atari days? I rly don't think you're remembering those days the way they were.

    The Atari days were a huge improvement over the PWE days.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    If you've seen how this stuff goes from the release of the past seasons since LoRish, it's not getting much better from here.

    That's another point -- unless it's TOTALLY gamebreaking they will never fix it. And even then critical bug fixes are never on the horizon.
    I dont think they even test their stuff. They likely just fling it at a wall and use whatever sticks.

    This is also how they handle canon species. They Google for an episode, wiki the appearance of a given race, and throw it in wherever they need something to shoot at.
    My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If you no longer enjoy it, then you should not play it anymore.

    You notice with most of the threads and comments that flow through here that all of them have something in common, they all seem to make out that STO is more than what it is. The language is always so elaborate, saying everything from STO being a grind infused timegated hellhole to the best F2P game out there full stop.

    I don't tend to criticise STO much, because I recognise what it is. It is a casual F2P MMO. A video game. That's it. It's not worth getting so worked up over, and if you don't enjoy this game anymore there is no point in sticking around.
  • captwcaptw Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    Yeah, but for some strange reason people just keep hoping it gets better. "Cryptic can do a 180 and fix everything." Sadly it just never happens. I still hope and pray anyway.

    I remember durring season six I was hoping it would get better, it really hasn't, I've just put to much money into this game to just drop it all together.
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  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    If you no longer enjoy it, then you should not play it anymore.

    You notice with most of the threads and comments that flow through here that all of them have something in common, they all seem to make out that STO is more than what it is. The language is always so elaborate, saying everything from STO being a grind infused timegated hellhole to the best F2P game out there full stop.

    I don't tend to criticise STO much, because I recognise what it is. It is a casual F2P MMO. A video game. That's it. It's not worth getting so worked up over, and if you don't enjoy this game anymore there is no point in sticking around.

    So this was an elaborate 'Shut your mouth OP. Dont you dare give Cryptic Feedback' post?
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    So this was an elaborate 'Shut your mouth OP. Don't you dare give Cryptic Feedback' post?

    Not really no.

    It's difficult to get my point across, I'm finding it hard to explain it. It's like...I get the impression that some players, not necessarily the OP, are sort of stuck in an 'abusive relationship' with STO for lack of a better metaphor. Perhaps it's just the use of language in an attempt to better get their point across but sometimes I'm really not so sure.

    When good changes comes along they shower praise and love to the Devs, when bad changes come along they act as if they're demoralise and heartbroken. Like they've invested their hearts, minds and wallets into what is just a video game.

    I simply wonder why they punish themselves like that is all.
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The point of this game is to have fun. If someone isn't having fun they should walk away from the game. The day this game stops being fun I will walk away from it.
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • jujuexjujuex Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2014
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jujuex wrote: »
    Khan5000 you have zero playing time, why are you commenting? Its not just that this new expansion came out, it was like this previously. With the expansion I know for myself I was hoping it would get better and not worse. So go play the game before you make some comments.

    I have been playing this game on and off since Beta...so I am not sure where you are getting your information from about me having zero playing time. I have limited time in the expansion due to bugs...which is why I'm cooling my jets on the boards.

    Note of advice about message boards...don't assume you know someone.
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Nerfing dil with 200% alone is enough to make me throw up over the game.

    Then we got another 20 equally as problematic issues.


    Is like okay let's pretend they un-nerf dil (which they said they wont), well there is still no reason to grind for it, because there is no new content.

    I don't want to re-buy all my old gear or buy un-official star trek ships.

    So to me personally is layer of layer of layer of problems
  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jarfaru wrote: »
    The OP is right about one thing though, think back how new content was before PW bought the company. You didn't have to grind out lvl's to play the story. Now you do and its tied to you getting annoyed enough to buy xp boost. Some are saying its so you don't rush through the content but i'm not buying that. Since when did any mmo company worry about a player rushing through content.

    You know I still don't get this argument... I've only just completed revelations but I'm already level 60 +16 and I haven't done any grinding nor did I run a bunch of queues I played 5 hours the first day with my fleet running Argala (was soo fast and easy I call it a lootsplosion rather than grind) and played 2 hours this morning) THAT'S IT! No grin d no fuss but everyone is saying they can't level or play and other than elite being an OMG situation I've seen no change to the game other than me having stuff to do again.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    vestereng wrote: »
    Nerfing dil with 200% alone is enough to make me throw up over the game.

    Then we got another 20 equally as problematic issues.


    Is like okay let's pretend they un-nerf dil (which they said they wont), well there is still no reason to grind for it, because there is no new content.

    I don't want to re-buy all my old gear or buy un-official star trek ships.

    So to me personally is layer of layer of layer of problems

    So why do you keep playing? I sounds like you are over Cryptic and PWE and this game. If you feel the game is buggy or the dev don't care or the companies are nickel and dining you...why do you still play?
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    what can I say, I like the game fine the way it is, if you want a game that is truly star trek I suggest you play an offline trek game, there are plenty of them.

    personally considering they have had no new star trek material to work with in a long time I think the devs are doing a fine job at capturing the feeling of star trek within STO.

    to me star trek has always been about pushing the boundaries not just of mankind but of your imagination, you have to be open to any eventuality with star trek whether it be living rock creatures, salt vampires, a place where whatever you think of becomes real including alice in wonderland or indeed dinos with lazers, monster snowmen, yeti`s and living gingerbread men.

    they have given us plenty to do in this update including not only expanding and advancing our characters but also expanding our starships, people begged for harder pve content and they gave it, sure its a little too hard now but what will it be like in a few months time when everyone has top level ships and mk14 kit throughout.

    for me its all great fun, building my characters abilities, advancing my skills, expanding my starships capabilities and enjoying a well earned break with the summer and winter events.
    its everthing I have ever wanted and its all in one place, STO rocks!.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    semalda226 wrote: »
    You know I still don't get this argument... I've only just completed revelations but I'm already level 60 +16 and I haven't done any grinding nor did I run a bunch of queues I played 5 hours the first day with my fleet running Argala (was soo fast and easy I call it a lootsplosion rather than grind) and played 2 hours this morning) THAT'S IT! No grin d no fuss but everyone is saying they can't level or play and other than elite being an OMG situation I've seen no change to the game other than me having stuff to do again.

    Thats called power grinding. And watch Argala Skill Point rewards get nerfed in the near future.
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