I thought Klingons and romulans were supposed to be tough warrior races. Why do they cry like children who didn't get their cookie? And forget all this marketing and numbers TRIBBLE. The fact is, Star Trek has always been about the federation and starfleet captains. Even in canon we see more fed ships than anything else. So of course feds get more ships, they're the main story characters. Look at any game based on a movie or TV show. You'll see each and every time that the main characters from the canon story always have more than anyone else.
.... Look at any game based on a movie or TV show. You'll see each and every time that the main characters from the canon story always have more than anyone else.
Not the case in Star Wars. The empire had way more than anyone, he lost because of bad luck and some other TRIBBLE...
TBH in most games and Movies the bad guys always have more, and better weapons. They lose because they're are outsmarted, or just for the hell of it.
The good guys having more is just a Star Trek thing... Seems lame and boring to me.
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Not the case in Star Wars. The empire had way more than anyone, he lost because of bad luck and some other TRIBBLE...
TBH in most games and Movies the bad guys always have more, and better weapons. They lose because they're are outsmarted, or just for the hell of it.
The good guys having more is just a Star Trek thing... Seems lame and boring to me.
It's not a case of the Federation having more...just that the focus wasn't on the feds vs KDF or Roms so no real thought was put into giving the Roms and KDF more ships...I believe in canon the KDF only truly have about 4-5 ships from TOS to DS9....I could be wrong.
Why the "bad guys" have more in Star Wars because the focus of those movies have been a small group of rebels fighting against an evil galactic empire.
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Not the case in Star Wars. The empire had way more than anyone,
Doesnt that always seem to be the case volume and scale with the baddies vs kitbash 'odds against' goodies (the Picts vs the Romans as i like to see it lol). But then, it only takes a single lit candle to pierce the veil of darkness. You do make a good point, Star Trek does seem to be a different beast, a resource reversal, does kind of get you thinking.......
I thought Klingons and romulans were supposed to be tough warrior races. Why do they cry like children who didn't get their cookie? And forget all this marketing and numbers TRIBBLE. The fact is, Star Trek has always been about the federation and starfleet captains. Even in canon we see more fed ships than anything else. So of course feds get more ships, they're the main story characters. Look at any game based on a movie or TV show. You'll see each and every time that the main characters from the canon story always have more than anyone else.
LOL most of those combat engagements the federation had in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era in the alpha quadrant would have eventually become the end of the federation if not for the Klingon Empire and the Romulans. The problem those of us who would rather play a Klingon or Romulan captain opposed to just about every Star Trek game out there (But not all) its pretty much been an enterprise or federation game. They crying you claim isn't crying because that is what feds do rofl. No what we have a gripe with is the fact if someone builds something say like the KDF then never finishes it but keeps making promises or hints of something to come that never comes then you can of get disappointed in them.
As far as the federation having more that isn't a true statement due to the fact in most cases when you saw these people it was on the neutral zone or just the only klingon or romulan ships in the area but not by far to say they were weaker or have less numbers heh. One example of that is the story of Axanar that is being worked on. Now as far as different ship classes the federation did have more because the Klingons pretty much just adapted new technology on their existing designs unless they had the need for a totally new ship class. The problem that those in the KDF have is the fact that you build it on that canon basis and keep opening doors for federation design all the while nothing is done as far as flexibility for the KDF to get any developmental changes as well.
So in the end its not crying or QQ on part of the KDF or Romulans its the fact that it doesn't make for a fun game if little by little your Klingon and Romulan ships become obsolete to those playing another faction which takes affect in pve because I don't consider this game to have any pvp.
LOL most of those combat engagements the federation had in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era in the alpha quadrant would have eventually become the end of the federation if not for the Klingon Empire and the Romulans. The problem those of us who would rather play a Klingon or Romulan captain opposed to just about every Star Trek game out there (But not all) its pretty much been an enterprise or federation game. They crying you claim isn't crying because that is what feds do rofl. No what we have a gripe with is the fact if someone builds something say like the KDF then never finishes it but keeps making promises or hints of something to come that never comes then you can of get disappointed in them.
As far as the federation having more that isn't a true statement due to the fact in most cases when you saw these people it was on the neutral zone or just the only klingon or romulan ships in the area but not by far to say they were weaker or have less numbers heh. One example of that is the story of Axanar that is being worked on. Now as far as different ship classes the federation did have more because the Klingons pretty much just adapted new technology on their existing designs unless they had the need for a totally new ship class. The problem that those in the KDF have is the fact that you build it on that canon basis and keep opening doors for federation design all the while nothing is done as far as flexibility for the KDF to get any developmental changes as well.
So in the end its not crying or QQ on part of the KDF or Romulans its the fact that it doesn't make for a fun game if little by little your Klingon and Romulan ships become obsolete to those playing another faction which takes affect in pve because I don't consider this game to have any pvp.
if you only play PVE then does it really matter what the other side has?
Sure i'd like more choices in KDF or Rom ships and I've pretty much set my KDF and Rom characters hearts on the T6 ships.
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I thought Klingons and romulans were supposed to be tough warrior races. Why do they cry like children who didn't get their cookie? And forget all this marketing and numbers TRIBBLE. The fact is, Star Trek has always been about the federation and starfleet captains. Even in canon we see more fed ships than anything else. So of course feds get more ships, they're the main story characters. Look at any game based on a movie or TV show. You'll see each and every time that the main characters from the canon story always have more than anyone else.
I'm not sure how to break this to you, but we don't actually import real Klingons from Qo'noS and real Romulans from Romulus to play STO. The ones behind those characters are real Human beings with justified complaints as such, like it or not.
what we have a gripe with is the fact if someone builds something say like the KDF then never finishes it but keeps making promises or hints of something to come that never comes then.....
On principle alone I have to agree with this comment.
I'm pretty sure I explained why that is implausible earlier.... Namely that the crew of Voyager didn't have enough data about the Dauntless to even make a functional QSS.... let alone the rest of the ship.
The in-game Dauntless uses a warp core, while the Voy Dauntless used a more advanced power source, didn't it? It's basically just a similar shell, no?
The few things that would make me happy is if my Romulans got the same status as Vulcans, Andorians and every other race in the Federation. That way i would have a canon excuse for being able to wear all the Fed uniforms i've unlocked. Also a full sized carrier preferably one that is tac oriented (only because i cant afford the JDHC and i want to claim it on multiple roms hehe). Ohh and also some work to the 3d models on the last line of free Romulan ships. They all have the huge body with high wings, low wings or quad wings. The huge body is what i hate. At least give the 'escort' a smaller body and a different body more T'liss and Tvaro-ish. And make the Sci ship a lot more distinct.
Except the Romulans aren't members of the Federation or a officer in Starfleet, they're allied not part of.
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Was looking at delta pack and noticed that fed gets 5 t6 ships while kdf and rom only gets 2 each. Way to go Cryptic, go give KDF and Rom's the middle finger like aways.
its only to be understood if you consider the numbers, for every 5 fed player characters there is aprox 2 kdf and 2 rom and a lot of players hardly ever play their kdf and rom characters and only really created them so they could play the differant story line then just use them for doff mission farming.
i know there are some players out there that only have rom and others who only have kdf but there are a lot more who only have fed.
personally i have one of each and play them all equally but i am the exception.
its only natural that feds are going to get more of everything really.
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Except the Romulans aren't members of the Federation or a officer in Starfleet, they're allied not part of.
Uhh yah...
Why do you think i was asking for the same status as Vulcans, Andorians etc? I *know* that they are only allies. But i dont want to be just allies of the federation i want them to be part of the federation. The same way Pandaren become full members of the horde or alliance. Not some half assed ohh we are friends but not really friends that trust each other but dont really trust each other that have access to each others technology but not quite the way you want it.
Why do you think i was asking for the same status as Vulcans, Andorians etc? I *know* that they are only allies. But i dont want to be just allies of the federation i want them to be part of the federation. The same way Pandaren become full members of the horde or alliance. Not some half assed ohh we are friends but not really friends that trust each other but dont really trust each other that have access to each others technology but not quite the way you want it.
OMG no. Members of the Federation? Seriously? As peace loving hippies as they may have turned into, Romulans are still proud, which has been the major sticking point with the reunification movement. Even D'Tan was smart enough to know that trying to join the Federation would be political (and probably real) suicide.
No, the Romulans should always be a seperate race, and in fact in a couple decades the Federation and Romulans should be at war again.
Common developer practice is you look at who plays what faction and how many people play a certain faction, figure out percentages, and then divide dev time based on those percentages. Basically the faction that gets them the most money, gets the most dev time. That's not just STO but pretty much all games.
Common developer practice is completely backwards. The reason most people play Starfleet is BECAUSE of the lack of good KDF stuff. Starfleet has more good stuff, which is what MAKES people play Starfleet. You need to give KDF more stuff before the player numbers will ever increase. You give KDF more stuff, and more and more people will start playing KDF.
OMG no. Members of the Federation? Seriously? As peace loving hippies as they may have turned into, Romulans are still proud, which has been the major sticking point with the reunification movement. Even D'Tan was smart enough to know that trying to join the Federation would be political (and probably real) suicide.
No, the Romulans should always be a seperate race, and in fact in a couple decades the Federation and Romulans should be at war again.
I dont care too much about make believe video game politics or "faction pryde". I just want to be able to dress up my all fem rom bunny team in 7 of 9 outfits and ride around in an ACR.
I dont care too much about make believe video game politics or "faction pryde". I just want to be able to dress up my all fem rom bunny team in 7 of 9 outfits and ride around in an ACR.
Common developer practice is completely backwards. The reason most people play Starfleet is BECAUSE of the lack of good KDF stuff. Starfleet has more good stuff, which is what MAKES people play Starfleet. You need to give KDF more stuff before the player numbers will ever increase. You give KDF more stuff, and more and more people will start playing KDF.
yeah... remember the LoR release? And the Mogh?
Unh huh.... the "if you build it, they will come" idea is apparently not applicable here. based on the numbers quoted by Cryptic it would seem that a large chunk of the player base just doesn't like KDF...
Common developer practice is completely backwards. The reason most people play Starfleet is BECAUSE of the lack of good KDF stuff. Starfleet has more good stuff, which is what MAKES people play Starfleet. You need to give KDF more stuff before the player numbers will ever increase. You give KDF more stuff, and more and more people will start playing KDF.
cryptic gave the kdf an entire 1-50 mission trail and you know what happened? nothing. the player numbers stayed virtually the same. if adding much needed missions didn't change the numbers adding a new ship or two won't change the numbers either.
it's not build it and they will come because they built it and they didn't come.
I'm not sure how to break this to you, but we don't actually import real Klingons from Qo'noS and real Romulans from Romulus to play STO. The ones behind those characters are real Human beings with justified complaints as such, like it or not.
HEY! I don't know about anyone else but I'm pretty sure I'm Romulan. I pvp in my fleet all the time and when they complain about me cloaking every 10-15 seconds my response is always "Sorry Romulan..."
Players play UFP because ST is about fed, those who play non UFP just love KDF\ROM style, thats it.
I loved Romulans since i saw em in TNG, and from launch i played KDF alien in BOP mimicking Romulan only because Cryptic failed to deliver all factions at launch.since LOR was released i have no desire to play anything else.
Same goes to many other players who wanted to be Starfleet captain\Klingon captain, and ammount of 'toys' wont change their mind. Toys are for children, there plenty of powerfull ships for all factions for both pvp and pve.
But.
There should be T6 ship type of trinity for all factions. so Sci for ROMs and KDF plox, yeah and give Red guys intel raider. Starfleet can have 132848432 in each category but Redz and Greenz need atleast one.
I'm going to believe that you are a troll. A few of things you said planted the seeds of this thought but one thing made that 100% true to me.
Wanting to put Romulans in a bodysuit and not in TOS miniskirts. Nice try. You almost had me
I prefer the "i just got out of yoga class and i'm ready to fight borg" look. Ohh and also i use ToS top (the male version), yoga pants, and ugg boots...i mean...combat boots. Besides Romulans dont have the legs for miniskirts...Tovan might, but not the females.
However i was serious about not wanting to use Aliens to substitute a Romulan just so i can wear Fed or KDF unis due to SRO. I've actually done that in the past but with my KDF toons where i pick an Alien and make them look like a normal person just so i can use KDF unis or so i can have an extra trait slot. But i wont do it for Romulans...KDF yes, because the stats are already crappy but not Romulans. I dont believe in gimping myself intentionally just to make the game more challenging. I'll get the best gear i'm able to and the best crew i'm able to. If the devs designed something to be too overpowering or they made the content too easy then thats *their* fault and thats something that they should fix.
I have always found it funny for Cryptic and their defenders to blame the KDF playerbase for poor KDF sales.
When there's very few endgame KDF ships to buy to begin with
You can't make money off people if you don't give them anything to buy.
Cryptic had been sitting on a gold mine of KDF-aligned race ships that they refuse to take advantage of. All those NPC Orion, Gorn, Nausicaan ships? Orion Warbarges? Etc? Almost all of them are unplayable. Even then, the few that are playable in the KDF do not have endgame versions to play with.
There are still a slew of low tier Klingon designed ships that are unplayable at endgame. Qaw'Dun BOP? K'Tanco? Pfft. There's more. There's even canon ships like K'Vort BOP that are still not in.
Then there's also uniforms. There are more canon Romulan uniforms to buy than there are the wide array of canon Klingon uniforms, despite the KDF being in the game since the beginning. In the C-Store, you have several Romulan uniforms to buy, while the KDF are still stuck with the Klingon Academy version that nobody likes (it looks horrible). Yet we still are lacking the trenchcoats, sashes, different uniforms worn by Klingons in the movies and TV shows.
The list goes on and we have these issues. Cryptic continues to refuse in making these things playable, refuses to make money off it.
cryptic gave the kdf an entire 1-50 mission trail and you know what happened? nothing. the player numbers stayed virtually the same. if adding much needed missions didn't change the numbers adding a new ship or two won't change the numbers either.
it's not build it and they will come because they built it and they didn't come.
{SARCASM} Was that the same time the added a plethora of KDF ships at level 50 to balance out the Federation offerings, and started putting cool things like the Wide-Angle Quantum Torpedo and Tachyon Detection Field in the lockboxes? {/SARCASM}
The KDF 1-50 mission trail was awesome, I still like playing through that when I start a KDF character far more than I do the Fed or Rom starting missions. That said, we spend the vast majority of our time at Level 50 (soon to be 50+), and even with that revamped intro series we'd had several years' worth of imbalanced offerings for the KDF half of the game. They didn't actually "build it" as you put it, they merely gave a hint that they might consider doing so. There was, and is, no balance in endgame offerings as far as the Federation faction is concerned... it's all right there and the other two factions get occasional offerings.
Honestly, T6 was a huge missed opportunity to provide a balanced initial release of the new endgame and see where the profit actually lies. If they had created, at some point since I started playing this game, some form of faction balance... they just might also have some form of multi-faction profit. If they didn't see sales or a rebalancing of the playerbase over the next few months they could have gone right back to "the Fed gets fed" philosophy, but the initial offering of T6 ships creates not only an imbalance in endgame ship offerings but also in build options thanks to the Starship Traits they unlock... and with the level cap increase to Level 60 (+30/+15) focusing on a small number of characters is just going to make Fed stay Fed rather than giving them a chance to motivate even a few Fed-only folks to diversify their characters and therefore buy ships for that faction as well.
Diverse factions are a potential profit source, since they trigger purchases that are only useable by that given faction; however, when things are as poorly balanced as they are now, you lose that potential. There is insufficient incentive for most casual players to diversify their faction or their purchases, instead purchasing account unlocks that apply to their entire character lineup rather than one or two, and costing the company in duplicate or redundant purchases.
I know some may be of the opinion that there are more Fed players so you make more Fed things... but as a multi-faction player that simply saves me money. Where I might buy a ship for this character and another ship for that character, instead I refuse to purchase anything from the Fed C-Store lineup on principle alone (it's sad that a multi-faction game is so horribly out of balance) and I have very little to worry about buying from the KDF C-Store lineup. The Roms, though, got a few purchases out of me since I could use them on both the Fed and KDF sides... that whole eliminating redundant purchases with account unlocks thing, just in a different manner. :P
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I'd like to burst your Klingon Superiority Bubble...
Unarguably the Romulans have more and better Story Content, more and better Ships at Endgame and yet apparently the numbers still prohibit the Romulans to receive nearly as much as the Feds.
So how is it possible you people still think that it is all still just "Build more Stuff, People buy more stuff" when there is a complete third faction/fraction disproving this claim and when we are at this point, where is your evidence that suddenly ALL Klingon Players would start throwing money at Cryptic and thousands new players start a Klingon Char when they just would "build stuff for them"?
Please stop selling so many varieties of bread, and start selling more varieties of asparagus.
I really like asparagus and feel realy angry that you sell so many types of bread, but so few of asparagus.
You clearly don't want us asparagus lovers to spend money, and want us to stop coming to your supermarket, as if you felt differently you would sell as many varieties of asparagus as you do bread. Don't you realise that if you make more varieties of asparagus available, more people will buy asparagus and it will become more popular?
You clearly hate asparagus lovers!"
You folks do realise that this is how this thread reads don't you? You fail to recognise that no amount of adding more and more Klingon or Romulan ships, and less federation ones, will get people to want to play these more? Which is why Crytic spend more time and effort creating new federation ships.
As others have tried to point out, Star Trek is about the Federation and Starfleet, it is NOT about Romulans or Klingons. THAT is why there will always be more players wanting to play Feds, not because they have more or better ships. Cryptic would be pretty stupid to not recognise this, and to focus more of their efforts on fed players.
Just because you think that your faction of choice is awesome, does not mean that everybody else feels the same way.
Seriously, threads like this need adding to the FCT. They keep coming up time and time again, and those creating them, and agreeing with them, just see it as Crypic hating their fave faction, rather than recognising that Cryptic are just going where the money is to be found. If Cryptic hated KDF or Romulans they'd just remove them, or stop making anything for them.
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Not the case in Star Wars. The empire had way more than anyone, he lost because of bad luck and some other TRIBBLE...
TBH in most games and Movies the bad guys always have more, and better weapons. They lose because they're are outsmarted, or just for the hell of it.
The good guys having more is just a Star Trek thing... Seems lame and boring to me.
It's not a case of the Federation having more...just that the focus wasn't on the feds vs KDF or Roms so no real thought was put into giving the Roms and KDF more ships...I believe in canon the KDF only truly have about 4-5 ships from TOS to DS9....I could be wrong.
Why the "bad guys" have more in Star Wars because the focus of those movies have been a small group of rebels fighting against an evil galactic empire.
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Doesnt that always seem to be the case
LOL most of those combat engagements the federation had in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era in the alpha quadrant would have eventually become the end of the federation if not for the Klingon Empire and the Romulans. The problem those of us who would rather play a Klingon or Romulan captain opposed to just about every Star Trek game out there (But not all) its pretty much been an enterprise or federation game. They crying you claim isn't crying because that is what feds do rofl. No what we have a gripe with is the fact if someone builds something say like the KDF then never finishes it but keeps making promises or hints of something to come that never comes then you can of get disappointed in them.
As far as the federation having more that isn't a true statement due to the fact in most cases when you saw these people it was on the neutral zone or just the only klingon or romulan ships in the area but not by far to say they were weaker or have less numbers heh. One example of that is the story of Axanar that is being worked on. Now as far as different ship classes the federation did have more because the Klingons pretty much just adapted new technology on their existing designs unless they had the need for a totally new ship class. The problem that those in the KDF have is the fact that you build it on that canon basis and keep opening doors for federation design all the while nothing is done as far as flexibility for the KDF to get any developmental changes as well.
So in the end its not crying or QQ on part of the KDF or Romulans its the fact that it doesn't make for a fun game if little by little your Klingon and Romulan ships become obsolete to those playing another faction which takes affect in pve because I don't consider this game to have any pvp.
if you only play PVE then does it really matter what the other side has?
Sure i'd like more choices in KDF or Rom ships and I've pretty much set my KDF and Rom characters hearts on the T6 ships.
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I'm not sure how to break this to you, but we don't actually import real Klingons from Qo'noS and real Romulans from Romulus to play STO. The ones behind those characters are real Human beings with justified complaints as such, like it or not.
On principle alone I have to agree with this comment.
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The in-game Dauntless uses a warp core, while the Voy Dauntless used a more advanced power source, didn't it? It's basically just a similar shell, no?
Except the Romulans aren't members of the Federation or a officer in Starfleet, they're allied not part of.
its only to be understood if you consider the numbers, for every 5 fed player characters there is aprox 2 kdf and 2 rom and a lot of players hardly ever play their kdf and rom characters and only really created them so they could play the differant story line then just use them for doff mission farming.
i know there are some players out there that only have rom and others who only have kdf but there are a lot more who only have fed.
personally i have one of each and play them all equally but i am the exception.
its only natural that feds are going to get more of everything really.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Uhh yah...
Why do you think i was asking for the same status as Vulcans, Andorians etc? I *know* that they are only allies. But i dont want to be just allies of the federation i want them to be part of the federation. The same way Pandaren become full members of the horde or alliance. Not some half assed ohh we are friends but not really friends that trust each other but dont really trust each other that have access to each others technology but not quite the way you want it.
OMG no. Members of the Federation? Seriously? As peace loving hippies as they may have turned into, Romulans are still proud, which has been the major sticking point with the reunification movement. Even D'Tan was smart enough to know that trying to join the Federation would be political (and probably real) suicide.
No, the Romulans should always be a seperate race, and in fact in a couple decades the Federation and Romulans should be at war again.
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I dont care too much about make believe video game politics or "faction pryde". I just want to be able to dress up my all fem rom bunny team in 7 of 9 outfits and ride around in an ACR.
Knock yourself out, kiddo
Unh huh.... the "if you build it, they will come" idea is apparently not applicable here. based on the numbers quoted by Cryptic it would seem that a large chunk of the player base just doesn't like KDF...
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it's not build it and they will come because they built it and they didn't come.
HEY! I don't know about anyone else but I'm pretty sure I'm Romulan. I pvp in my fleet all the time and when they complain about me cloaking every 10-15 seconds my response is always "Sorry Romulan..."
I'm going to believe that you are a troll. A few of things you said planted the seeds of this thought but one thing made that 100% true to me.
Wanting to put Romulans in a bodysuit and not in TOS miniskirts. Nice try. You almost had me
I loved Romulans since i saw em in TNG, and from launch i played KDF alien in BOP mimicking Romulan only because Cryptic failed to deliver all factions at launch.since LOR was released i have no desire to play anything else.
Same goes to many other players who wanted to be Starfleet captain\Klingon captain, and ammount of 'toys' wont change their mind. Toys are for children, there plenty of powerfull ships for all factions for both pvp and pve.
But.
There should be T6 ship type of trinity for all factions. so Sci for ROMs and KDF plox, yeah and give Red guys intel raider. Starfleet can have 132848432 in each category but Redz and Greenz need atleast one.
I prefer the "i just got out of yoga class and i'm ready to fight borg" look. Ohh and also i use ToS top (the male version), yoga pants, and ugg boots...i mean...combat boots. Besides Romulans dont have the legs for miniskirts...Tovan might, but not the females.
However i was serious about not wanting to use Aliens to substitute a Romulan just so i can wear Fed or KDF unis due to SRO. I've actually done that in the past but with my KDF toons where i pick an Alien and make them look like a normal person just so i can use KDF unis or so i can have an extra trait slot. But i wont do it for Romulans...KDF yes, because the stats are already crappy but not Romulans. I dont believe in gimping myself intentionally just to make the game more challenging. I'll get the best gear i'm able to and the best crew i'm able to. If the devs designed something to be too overpowering or they made the content too easy then thats *their* fault and thats something that they should fix.
When there's very few endgame KDF ships to buy to begin with
You can't make money off people if you don't give them anything to buy.
Cryptic had been sitting on a gold mine of KDF-aligned race ships that they refuse to take advantage of. All those NPC Orion, Gorn, Nausicaan ships? Orion Warbarges? Etc? Almost all of them are unplayable. Even then, the few that are playable in the KDF do not have endgame versions to play with.
There are still a slew of low tier Klingon designed ships that are unplayable at endgame. Qaw'Dun BOP? K'Tanco? Pfft. There's more. There's even canon ships like K'Vort BOP that are still not in.
Then there's also uniforms. There are more canon Romulan uniforms to buy than there are the wide array of canon Klingon uniforms, despite the KDF being in the game since the beginning. In the C-Store, you have several Romulan uniforms to buy, while the KDF are still stuck with the Klingon Academy version that nobody likes (it looks horrible). Yet we still are lacking the trenchcoats, sashes, different uniforms worn by Klingons in the movies and TV shows.
The list goes on and we have these issues. Cryptic continues to refuse in making these things playable, refuses to make money off it.
{SARCASM} Was that the same time the added a plethora of KDF ships at level 50 to balance out the Federation offerings, and started putting cool things like the Wide-Angle Quantum Torpedo and Tachyon Detection Field in the lockboxes? {/SARCASM}
The KDF 1-50 mission trail was awesome, I still like playing through that when I start a KDF character far more than I do the Fed or Rom starting missions. That said, we spend the vast majority of our time at Level 50 (soon to be 50+), and even with that revamped intro series we'd had several years' worth of imbalanced offerings for the KDF half of the game. They didn't actually "build it" as you put it, they merely gave a hint that they might consider doing so. There was, and is, no balance in endgame offerings as far as the Federation faction is concerned... it's all right there and the other two factions get occasional offerings.
Honestly, T6 was a huge missed opportunity to provide a balanced initial release of the new endgame and see where the profit actually lies. If they had created, at some point since I started playing this game, some form of faction balance... they just might also have some form of multi-faction profit. If they didn't see sales or a rebalancing of the playerbase over the next few months they could have gone right back to "the Fed gets fed" philosophy, but the initial offering of T6 ships creates not only an imbalance in endgame ship offerings but also in build options thanks to the Starship Traits they unlock... and with the level cap increase to Level 60 (+30/+15) focusing on a small number of characters is just going to make Fed stay Fed rather than giving them a chance to motivate even a few Fed-only folks to diversify their characters and therefore buy ships for that faction as well.
Diverse factions are a potential profit source, since they trigger purchases that are only useable by that given faction; however, when things are as poorly balanced as they are now, you lose that potential. There is insufficient incentive for most casual players to diversify their faction or their purchases, instead purchasing account unlocks that apply to their entire character lineup rather than one or two, and costing the company in duplicate or redundant purchases.
I know some may be of the opinion that there are more Fed players so you make more Fed things... but as a multi-faction player that simply saves me money. Where I might buy a ship for this character and another ship for that character, instead I refuse to purchase anything from the Fed C-Store lineup on principle alone (it's sad that a multi-faction game is so horribly out of balance) and I have very little to worry about buying from the KDF C-Store lineup. The Roms, though, got a few purchases out of me since I could use them on both the Fed and KDF sides... that whole eliminating redundant purchases with account unlocks thing, just in a different manner. :P
Unarguably the Romulans have more and better Story Content, more and better Ships at Endgame and yet apparently the numbers still prohibit the Romulans to receive nearly as much as the Feds.
So how is it possible you people still think that it is all still just "Build more Stuff, People buy more stuff" when there is a complete third faction/fraction disproving this claim and when we are at this point, where is your evidence that suddenly ALL Klingon Players would start throwing money at Cryptic and thousands new players start a Klingon Char when they just would "build stuff for them"?
Please stop selling so many varieties of bread, and start selling more varieties of asparagus.
I really like asparagus and feel realy angry that you sell so many types of bread, but so few of asparagus.
You clearly don't want us asparagus lovers to spend money, and want us to stop coming to your supermarket, as if you felt differently you would sell as many varieties of asparagus as you do bread. Don't you realise that if you make more varieties of asparagus available, more people will buy asparagus and it will become more popular?
You clearly hate asparagus lovers!"
You folks do realise that this is how this thread reads don't you? You fail to recognise that no amount of adding more and more Klingon or Romulan ships, and less federation ones, will get people to want to play these more? Which is why Crytic spend more time and effort creating new federation ships.
As others have tried to point out, Star Trek is about the Federation and Starfleet, it is NOT about Romulans or Klingons. THAT is why there will always be more players wanting to play Feds, not because they have more or better ships. Cryptic would be pretty stupid to not recognise this, and to focus more of their efforts on fed players.
Just because you think that your faction of choice is awesome, does not mean that everybody else feels the same way.
Seriously, threads like this need adding to the FCT. They keep coming up time and time again, and those creating them, and agreeing with them, just see it as Crypic hating their fave faction, rather than recognising that Cryptic are just going where the money is to be found. If Cryptic hated KDF or Romulans they'd just remove them, or stop making anything for them.