Didnt read thread just title but imo cryptic gave feds the finger this round they gave them the god awful t6 intel ship designs. The rom and kdf ones dont have the grey simply throw on color on the ships like feds have with few decals. The rom and kdf ones look like their races ones as in nice greens with lots of detail and color.
Other content i duno about yet but the t6 ships. I think rom and kdf won this round, so much nicer the ships.
seriously, dude, the pack was announced on sept 2nd. you're over a month behind the rant curve on this issue.
Amen seriously when are you people going just to get over it and understand that the federation rules we get the most ships we have the most players we have the most captains so boo-hoo replicate a box of tissues were done hearing about it
I for one was hoping for the dev to try add some ship balance i mean kdf n rom are missing a good sci ship but all they do is keep adding more ships of the same type.
I will only be upgrading my fed ships to T5fu i will be buying 1kdf T6 n 1 rom the rest of my 13k zen will be the rom kdf new outfits n what ever else i like the look of.
Cryptic's offer to kdf and romulan faction players is not so good unfortunately.
Since I not play fed side beside farming resources and play only kdf and romulan kdf I have almost nothing to buy
Both kdf and romulan T6 intel cruiser's have 3 tac consoles so I won't be using them in PVP and that means I will pass on these two.
Maha raptor looks nice but it has low turn ratio for being effective in PVP so I will buy the romulan T6 intel bird and that is all.I will probably buy Maha somewhere in future if it will have better turn ratio or gets a battlecloak.(Maybe somewhere next year when it will get a price discount i will buy anyway to use it in PVE)
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I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Was looking at delta pack and noticed that fed gets 5 t6 ships while kdf and rom only gets 2 each. Way to go Cryptic, go give KDF and Rom's the middle finger like aways.
The Dauntless should have been multifaction, it's an alien ship, NOT a Federation ship. Also would have been nice if the R and KDF could have got 3 Intel ships rather than 1 each.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You can clearly see why Cryptic wouldn't bother with developing faction equality with so many apologists like the ones swarming in this thread patting their backs for not doing so and rooting for underdevelopment.
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The Dauntless should have been multifaction, it's an alien ship, NOT a Federation ship.
The Dauntless looks too much like a Starfleet ship for it to make sense for the Klingons and Romulans to get it. It makes sense for Klingons and Romulans to get Dauntless inspired ships not for them to have the Dauntless.
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COV was finished at launch? No endgame stuff, because you couldnt even get to 50 yet. And all of the ATs needed to be "fixed."
Um... show me what level 50 content is only Federation. That kind of kills your 20%/80% right there. Every faction has the exact same level 50 content.
Lets be honest half the Klingon and Romulan ships are better then the majority of the Federation ships in existance kind of ruins your whole "lack of ships" concept. Klingons and Romulans sure have less ships, but generally their ships are better. The only area they're really weak on is Science, where you can fill that gap with lockbox and lobi ships.
As to your "Federation specific" no it's alliance specific. If you want to see it as "Federation" that's your perogative, but since there is no Federation, Romulan, or Klingon specific content post-50. In fact there's not real specific content after you hit DS9. There's some here and there but mostly it's the exact same content with just different pictures on your text box telling you the same thing in a different manner.
As to the faction specific stuff, what stuff? Consoles? Really, that's your big complaint is as a klingon I can't use my OP consoles anymore to steam role the Feds, I have to "gasp" learn to counter and play? Really? That's your big concern in factin specific stuff. Because I can't think of anything else that's been introduced as faction specific that as been given to the other sides, and which by the way the Federation consoles have been given as well, crappy as they may be.
So basically it sounds a aweful lot like entitlement to me. No one is getting factin specific anything any more, everyone is trading their consoles, so it's not just Klingon, and a desire for more faction specific content for a underplayed faction, when no one else is getting faction specific content.
1. Where did I say level 50? Even so, how about...count the T5 ships. Count the T6 ships. That is content. Sorry, but it is.
2. Lack of ships is lack of ships. Because you see them as "better" is irrelevant.
3. The storyline isn't very well put together to make sense unless your character is in the Federation. It's pretty obvious that it's "change a few words here and there" and that's the end of it.
4. Consoles. Cloaking. Flanking. And my "big concern" is not just treating any part of the game as "oops, we shouldn't even have made that." I do have characters that aren't KDF, you know.
5. Again with "entitlement." I'd just like alternate content that doesn't seem wasted, or an afterthought, or bland. However, there are many reasons NOT to bother with it. This does not make sense to me. Sorry?
1. Where did I say level 50? Even so, how about...count the T5 ships. Count the T6 ships. That is content. Sorry, but it is.
You shut your bloody mouth!
We sure as hell better hope Cryptic doesn't hear that, or we'll just end up getting Lockbox ships and C-Store ships as "content". :mad:
The Dauntless looks too much like a Starfleet ship for it to make sense for the Klingons and Romulans to get it. It makes sense for Klingons and Romulans to get Dauntless inspired ships not for them to have the Dauntless.
But because Cryptic would never be arsed to make a Klingon or Romulan Dauntless, it wold do just as well to give them it anyway.
No it's not. That's reused CGI, by that logic the Steamrunner is a 22nd century ship.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
But because Cryptic would never be arsed to make a Klingon or Romulan Dauntless, it wold do just as well to give them it anyway.
No it's not. That's reused CGI, by that logic the Steamrunner is a 22nd century ship.
why would the klingons and romans make a dauntless?
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why would the klingons and romans make a dauntless?
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No it's not. That's reused CGI, by that logic the Steamrunner is a 22nd century ship.
it doesn't matter that they reused the cgi any more then it matters that the only reason excelsior and miranda are in the 24th century is that they reused models they had rather then spend money on new ship models. if it's in the tv show it's canon.
That's reused CGI, by that logic the Steamrunner is a 22nd century ship.
Wait, where the hell did that one show up in Enterprise?
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the dauntless is in the 26th century fighting along side the enterprise j against the sphere builders. i don't remember the steamrunner.
Indeed, a Rhode Island class is also visible in that scene I believe. But I'm thinking to miscellaneous background shots with non-NX class starfleet vessels. It wouldn't happen to be in the alternate future with a parasite damaged Archer [if indeed there is a rehashed steamrunner somewhere in that series]?
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it doesn't matter that they reused the cgi any more then it matters that the only reason excelsior and miranda are in the 24th century is that they reused models they had rather then spend money on new ship models. if it's in the tv show it's canon.
Yup, just like Kirk and Khan suddenly being replaced by these guys, by Q, in the middle of the fight.
If there's no reason for it to be there then ignore it as a product of limited special effects.
Also Excelsiors and Mirandas in TNG / DS9 aren't anywhere near as stupid as a Prometheus in the 26th century.
Wait, where the hell did that one show up in Enterprise?
A couple of Earth Fleet shots in the background. (I want to say Stormfront off the top of my head, but I can't quite remember).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Yup, just like Kirk and Khan suddenly being replaced by these guys, by Q, in the middle of the fight.
are you just trying to be stupid now? you want to claim that stuntmen are canon? let's not get idiotic here. someone choose to use the dauntless cgi in the episode. they didn't have to, but they did. that makes it canon. it doesn't matter if you like it or not. it was done. your personal preferences don't dictate canon.
A couple of Earth Fleet shots in the background. (I want to say Stormfront off the top of my head, but I can't quite remember).
i did a google search and found no reference to that. seems odd due to how pedantic star trek fans are about such things.
i did a google search and found no reference to that.
I just skipped through Shockwave looking for any fleet shots. No luck. Closest I've found so far is in "Expanse" with two SF frigates that looks sort of like Norway classes (but are distinctly 22nd century design). There's also a ship in "Twilight" with a Steamrunner configuration, but its definitely a rehash of the NX saucer and nacells.
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are you just trying to be stupid now? you want to claim that stuntmen are canon? let's not get idiotic here. someone choose to use the dauntless cgi in the episode. they didn't have to, but they did. that makes it canon. it doesn't matter if you like it or not. it was done. your personal preferences don't dictate canon.
i did a google search and found no reference to that. seems odd due to how pedantic star trek fans are about such things.
So an alien ship from the distant past from an alien quadrant fighting for the federation is reasonable? Who says it's a fed ship in that scene anyway? It could be the 'Dauntless aliens' for all you know.
Really? Have you never read any of my posts before? I know what canon is, unless someone onscreen said (or pointed to a screen showing it) that the Dauntless has been used by the Federation in the future for whatever reason, it's far more likely it's someone else's ship or background CGI meant to be ignored.
There are 2 Steamrunners in Stormfront part 2, one over Earth, the other next to the NX-01.
Watch the episode as the fleet arrives.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Other content i duno about yet but the t6 ships. I think rom and kdf won this round, so much nicer the ships.
Amen seriously when are you people going just to get over it and understand that the federation rules we get the most ships we have the most players we have the most captains so boo-hoo replicate a box of tissues were done hearing about it
I will only be upgrading my fed ships to T5fu i will be buying 1kdf T6 n 1 rom the rest of my 13k zen will be the rom kdf new outfits n what ever else i like the look of.
Since I not play fed side beside farming resources and play only kdf and romulan kdf I have almost nothing to buy
Both kdf and romulan T6 intel cruiser's have 3 tac consoles so I won't be using them in PVP and that means I will pass on these two.
Maha raptor looks nice but it has low turn ratio for being effective in PVP so I will buy the romulan T6 intel bird and that is all.I will probably buy Maha somewhere in future if it will have better turn ratio or gets a battlecloak.(Maybe somewhere next year when it will get a price discount i will buy anyway to use it in PVE)
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
The Dauntless should have been multifaction, it's an alien ship, NOT a Federation ship. Also would have been nice if the R and KDF could have got 3 Intel ships rather than 1 each.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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The Dauntless looks too much like a Starfleet ship for it to make sense for the Klingons and Romulans to get it. It makes sense for Klingons and Romulans to get Dauntless inspired ships not for them to have the Dauntless.
COV was finished at launch? No endgame stuff, because you couldnt even get to 50 yet. And all of the ATs needed to be "fixed."
Could it be played? Yes. Was it "finished?" No.
1. Where did I say level 50? Even so, how about...count the T5 ships. Count the T6 ships. That is content. Sorry, but it is.
2. Lack of ships is lack of ships. Because you see them as "better" is irrelevant.
3. The storyline isn't very well put together to make sense unless your character is in the Federation. It's pretty obvious that it's "change a few words here and there" and that's the end of it.
4. Consoles. Cloaking. Flanking. And my "big concern" is not just treating any part of the game as "oops, we shouldn't even have made that." I do have characters that aren't KDF, you know.
5. Again with "entitlement." I'd just like alternate content that doesn't seem wasted, or an afterthought, or bland. However, there are many reasons NOT to bother with it. This does not make sense to me. Sorry?
You shut your bloody mouth!
We sure as hell better hope Cryptic doesn't hear that, or we'll just end up getting Lockbox ships and C-Store ships as "content". :mad:
But because Cryptic would never be arsed to make a Klingon or Romulan Dauntless, it wold do just as well to give them it anyway.
No it's not. That's reused CGI, by that logic the Steamrunner is a 22nd century ship.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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why would the klingons and romans make a dauntless?
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Indeed, a Rhode Island class is also visible in that scene I believe. But I'm thinking to miscellaneous background shots with non-NX class starfleet vessels. It wouldn't happen to be in the alternate future with a parasite damaged Archer [if indeed there is a rehashed steamrunner somewhere in that series]?
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Why would the Federation?
Yup, just like Kirk and Khan suddenly being replaced by these guys, by Q, in the middle of the fight.
If there's no reason for it to be there then ignore it as a product of limited special effects.
Also Excelsiors and Mirandas in TNG / DS9 aren't anywhere near as stupid as a Prometheus in the 26th century.
A couple of Earth Fleet shots in the background. (I want to say Stormfront off the top of my head, but I can't quite remember).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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i did a google search and found no reference to that. seems odd due to how pedantic star trek fans are about such things.
I just skipped through Shockwave looking for any fleet shots. No luck. Closest I've found so far is in "Expanse" with two SF frigates that looks sort of like Norway classes (but are distinctly 22nd century design). There's also a ship in "Twilight" with a Steamrunner configuration, but its definitely a rehash of the NX saucer and nacells.
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So an alien ship from the distant past from an alien quadrant fighting for the federation is reasonable? Who says it's a fed ship in that scene anyway? It could be the 'Dauntless aliens' for all you know.
Really? Have you never read any of my posts before? I know what canon is, unless someone onscreen said (or pointed to a screen showing it) that the Dauntless has been used by the Federation in the future for whatever reason, it's far more likely it's someone else's ship or background CGI meant to be ignored.
There are 2 Steamrunners in Stormfront part 2, one over Earth, the other next to the NX-01.
Watch the episode as the fleet arrives.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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