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therealfluffy
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I never felt comfortable knowing that the original Harry Kim was left dead, frozen and floating in space in the Delta Quadrant. He was the one person who most eagerly wanted to get back to Earth but he never got to see his homeworld again. Now that X2 will give us an Iconian gateway to the Delta Quadrant, how about we go back there in a mission and retrieve his body and bring it back to Earth for a proper funeral?
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That was over 32 years ago, dude.
Seriously, what is wrong with you?
:eek:
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
What's wrong with showing respect for the dead? Human history is full of examples of retrieving bodies much older than that for a proper burial.
The copy got home - the real guy was killed and left in space. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Deadlock_(episode)
Second, mostly all characters on voyager were "comic sidekicks", only they weren't funny.
They were just sorted on a scale of annoying where kim was probably ranked somewhere in the middle as "quite annoying" and so when I read your topic title I actually thought this was a post about killing that character or you asking for him to not appear again lol
Quantum duplication. Neither was a copy. Don't you know anything about quantum mechanics?
Also, if you do want to try (and fail) to frame it in "original" and "copy", who's to say that damaged Voyager was the original? What if we were watching from the frame of reference of the "original" from the start?
(EDIT: Fixed my placement of "copy" and "original" in the last paragraph.)
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In reality you're probably correct as far as we understand quantum mechanics but in Star Trek lore you're wrong since the copied Harry himself mentions in that episode that he's got a different quantum signature, thus not being identical to the original. That the damaged ship was the original was in my opinion part of the clever plot of that episode and it has been established as such on Memory-Alpha. Feel free to bring the lore discussion there.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/ST-TNG_Second_Chances.jpg
Those 2 gentlemen disagree.
Also lore/date and picard's reman clone and kirk's clone.
In reality "there are no one in the star trek universe that doesn't have a copy" would be truer
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THAT IS WHY THIS IS WRONG. ON SO MANY LEVELS.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Actually, I know a thing or two about quantum mechanics. And, the truth is, you cannot duplicate something on the quantum level, due to a little something called the no-cloning theorem.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-cloning_theorem
the Harry + Naomi from the voyager that survived died and were replaced with the Harry + naomi from the voyager that was destroyed
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I'd say it's only the 'original' because it's the one that survived. William Riker is more likely to be considered the original compared to Thomas, because he's the one that spent 8 years with civilisation, even though they both have equal claim to being the original.
Let's just throw both Harry's into separate steel chambers with a small amount of radioactive substance and... well... you know were this is going.
That is irrelevant and a completely different situation - strange cloud creates two Voyagers slightly out of phase to each other is a completely different situation to future Janeway coming back and aiding present Janeway with a way home, or any example of alternate timelines.
That would be awsome!
Lol, Schrodinger's Kim! :P
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As many others (including Captain Geko) have said, Voyager is like "Trek Popcorn" in the sense that it has good production value so it "looks" good and almost every episode is a self-contained story so it doesn't really matter if you watch a season 5 episode then a season six episode and then a season 4 episode because the stories don't really matter in terms of the larger story arc other than the general idea that the crew is exploring strange new worlds and the alien of the week on their way home.
Do we really need to get into an argument over the "real" Harry Kim? Just enjoy your "Trek popcorn" and move on to another bag.
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He was ejected from voyager with momentum so god knows where his body went in 32 years. For all you know he could of been sucked into the engine of a passerby ship and vaporized, or fallen into a sun.
God knows where that body would be in the vastness of space. I mean good intentions but did you all REALLY think this through here?
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Frozen Harry Kim
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
That Harry Kim is the "alien" from the episode **The Haunting of Deck Twelve**
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I LOVE this idea!
But what do we do with the frozen Harry Kim? Maybe another doff mission for a burial if Feds, selling him to the Kobali if Rom or feeding him to your targ (after being defrosted) as a Klingon.
That would actually make a really cool plot point, considering he and Ballard were lovers.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
I'd love to see this.