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please change the Crystalline Entity STF back to what it was....

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  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited August 2014
    Doesn't seem too difficult atm....

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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Doesn't feel any harder to me. Honestly I think the Tholians respawning after each blast makes the normal one harder than any of the random events that can happen in this one. Even the Terrans, the hardest of the randomness, don't seem nearly as dangeous when ignored as the Tholians could be (not that they were all that tough).

    I don't want to see this version stick around, just because the random events seem...random, and pointless. Not because it's too hard -- if it were actually hard, that'd be a nice change of pace!
  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    OMG!!! Seriously!!!

    This is the best version of the Crystalline Entity. The fact that some players are having trouble with this just shows how babied these people have been with all the changes to STO. Use your brains; learn to play the game instead of crying for nerfs. Or would you prefer the new Fleet Admiral uniform of diapers and a bottle?
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  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Doesn't feel any harder to me. Honestly I think the Tholians respawning after each blast makes the normal one harder than any of the random events that can happen in this one. Even the Terrans, the hardest of the randomness, don't seem nearly as dangeous when ignored as the Tholians could be (not that they were all that tough).

    I don't want to see this version stick around, just because the random events seem...random, and pointless. Not because it's too hard -- if it were actually hard, that'd be a nice change of pace!

    My thoughts exactly. I don't see it's any harder. Only time I die is if I forget to move out of range before the CE sends out it's pulse, or if I don't don't move far enough fast enough, even with my B'rel.

    Besides, for anyone that does find it too hard, it's a temporary event. It will be gone in a couple weeks or so and then the normal one will be back. Sit tight and find somewhere else to get your Nuk marks if it's too hard for you.
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  • matthian1701matthian1701 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It makes me sad that there are so many Star Trek fans that are so mean spirited and eager to make others feel bad.

    OP having trouble with the event? Better call him names and say he's terrible.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Really can't see anything to complain about with this iteration of the event.

    Well, one could argue the static spam should actually do something, but its not hard.

    Perhaps OP is perhaps not quite as well set up as they think they are.....or they need a tactical change.
  • kelshandokelshando Member Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    please tell me this is a Joke thread.. the event one is just as easy as the base one. there maybe a few more adds but aoe spam easily wipes them out.
  • yggdraheim99yggdraheim99 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This is hard you say?.......its only hard when you haven't put forth the effort and skill.
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  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I agree that the event is more challenging right now, since I actually witnessed a failed (as in abandoned) run earlier today. I have never witnessed this since the entity was nerfed into oblivion :D

    But why cry for a nerf? You need to adapt your tactics. For isntance, it is vital that there are enough sci captains to subnuc the entity. If you have only tacs ganging up on it, it will heal and increase it's damage output in the process - subnuking, CCing etc. works to counter that development. If people just blindly fly into fragments, don't adjust their strategy beyond "fire all weapons kthxbye" the entity will at one point pretty much oneshot everyone and heal up to full health again.

    Equip the doff that pulls with Tractor beam repulsors instead of pushes. You will evolve your tactics fast or else you'll find yourslef floating home on a Gorn waste container. Leave the difficulty where it is at. As a matter of fact the whole game needs a difficulty upgrade. What is it with these people crying about the game being to hard. I just don't get it.
  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So me and a bunch of other jemmy dreads sat there lobbing plasmas and elite scorps at the entity, the plasma burn and omega kinetic sharing reaching ridiculous stack numbers....

    So the whole thing died in like under 8 minutes. Some escorts got themselves killed by the energy wave... but not us dreads. nope. we kept lobbing plasma.... and the entity died. fast.




    The entity is not too hard, its just a case of your builds being ill prepared...
  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Hmm, I found sit-n-shoot works just as well in this as the regular event. The only things I found that make it "harder" were
    - it tended to sit near the planet, which annoyed my science types, who like to circle the CE
    - the time it takes the CE to charge up takes a lot longer than normal elite. Normally, I get the message that it's charging up, pop evasive to get past the 10 kn mark, it zaps, and I go back to shooting it. Now, I hit evasive, go past the 10 km mark, and sit for a while waiting.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It makes me sad that there are so many Star Trek fans that are so mean spirited and eager to make others feel bad.

    OP having trouble with the event? Better call him names and say he's terrible.

    Oh its a very simple case of someone who can't be bothered to put the effort(very minimal at that) into such an easy encounter and wanting the entire community to suffer for his incompetence. If he is mentally challenge or suffering from a disability, then I can understand...but instead of asking for help with his build, he wants the encounter nerfed.

    To improve oneself is commendable, to ask for an encounter to be nerf deserves to have his gaming aptitude called into question
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  • matthian1701matthian1701 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    Oh its a very simple case of someone who can't be bothered to put the effort(very minimal at that) into such an easy encounter and wanting the entire community to suffer for his incompetence. If he is mentally challenge or suffering from a disability, then I can understand...but instead of asking for help with his build, he wants the encounter nerfed.

    To improve oneself is commendable, to ask for an encounter to be nerf deserves to have his gaming aptitude called into question

    I guess I give too much credit to Trek fans as a whole. I always thought Trek fans would act respectful and mature, even if approached with a person or idea that is not. What I see is some people in this thread tripping over themselves to call OP names.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Aight.... the Crystalline Entity STF is just too darn hard at the moment.... my main character is fully and properly geared, and I get eaten alive! Before I could do the Elite version easily, but this is just ridiculous.

    Please remove all the "extra's" from the STF.... this is no fun anymore :mad:

    I am not going to be like some of the people here and say you suck or you dont know what your doing. but this is the nerfed version you are now crying about.


    its really not that bad and if you want to team up some time send me a ingame message
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  • alex284alex284 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I won't join the chorus of people saying that it's easy because if it's hard for you then it's hard for you and that's not something that insults will change.

    I will say that I like some of the temporary features and the elite level is more fun (to me) because of them.

    But seriously folks, some people find some things hard that you may find easy and maybe we could all turn the ego down a little. Haha, what am I saying, this is video game forum and what would it be without a boatload of unsubstantiated bravado?
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    alex284 wrote: »
    I won't join the chorus of people saying that it's easy because if it's hard for you then it's hard for you and that's not something that insults will change.

    I will say that I like some of the temporary features and the elite level is more fun (to me) because of them.

    But seriously folks, some people find some things hard that you may find easy and maybe we could all turn the ego down a little. Haha, what am I saying, this is video game forum and what would it be without a boatload of unsubstantiated bravado?

    It's not bravado, it's plain silliness. Complaining the CE event is too hard? Good god. Maybe players should try using their heads. Yes that lump 3 feet above their tails!
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  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    All I do is pug and when I first did CEE I watched what others did after reading up on it. I ain't the best pilot by any means but a little research will still allow you to contribute.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited August 2014
    Aight.... the Crystalline Entity STF is just too darn hard at the moment.... my main character is fully and properly geared, and I get eaten alive! Before I could do the Elite version easily, but this is just ridiculous.

    Please remove all the "extra's" from the STF.... this is no fun anymore :mad:

    No. This is much more exciting. It takes effort (albeit quiet small even on elite) to do this mission. I will agree that sometimes you will run into bad groups with the 'group effort skills' of Republicans and Democrats.

    It's easy enough to do. Follow these basics:

    1.) Watch the CE's damage levels, always.
    2.) Tachyon Beam, GW, Tykens Rift and SubNuc as often as possible.
    3.) When big shards chase you, run away and destroy them.
    4.) When small shards go back to mommy, torpedo them.
    5.) At CE's damage level at 66 and 33%; either get to 10km away -OR- be within 1km to survive.

    Stop whining. Start practising.
  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I got trolled in one this morning. Somebody was tanking the shards and the Entities 2% damage bonus was stacked up over 200 times.

    It was 1 shotting anything that got inside 10km. Now if I see that damage stack hit 100+, I'll just leave and requeue.
  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Believe it or not, this event used to be a hell of a lot harder than what it is now. As it stands, it's really not all that different from its everyday version. You do have to play it a little bit differently now, but not drastically so. FYI, cruisers are a much bigger help with it now, with their ability to keep teammates alive and resist massive damage.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Aight.... the Crystalline Entity STF is just too darn hard at the moment.... my main character is fully and properly geared, and I get eaten alive! Before I could do the Elite version easily, but this is just ridiculous.

    Please remove all the "extra's" from the STF.... this is no fun anymore :mad:

    Obviously, you're not geared properly, as being 'eaten alive' is a bad sign. If you're unlucky, you might get hit by a large filament, and you *may* die from that; but otherwise nothing in there should affect you adversely, really.

    Having said that, gearing for 100% safety is not necessarily the best choice either -- a lot less fun, a least. A good sport will still add stuff to actually, you know, be helpful to the team in killing the Beast. Merely 'not dying', where's the fun in that?! :)

    But yeah, Mirror ships et al. should not bother you. If they are, step up your defenses a bit more.

    Love the dark clouds you can get stuck in, btw. LOL. That was a nice touch.
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  • ricosakararicosakara Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I've played it twice so far, and other than the screen snow and mirror ships, nothing seems challenging to me. Looks like the same mission IMO. I have no problem with this game so far. And besides, only 12 more to go until I get the event taken care of.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited August 2014
    Gear and weapons are irrelevant, albeit helpful. Skills, and the ability to use them count for way more.
    lowy1 wrote: »
    All I do is pug and when I first did CEE I watched what others did after reading up on it. I ain't the best pilot by any means but a little research will still allow you to contribute.

    ^^^ This is the way to start.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    kelshando wrote: »
    please tell me this is a Joke thread..

    What's kind of sad, in a way, is that in many games folks would all get a chuckle out a thread like this - because they'd know it was an obvious joke. But this is STO...and sadly...it might not be a joke.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited August 2014

    5.) At CE's damage level at 66 and 33%; either get to 10km away -OR- be within 1km to survive.

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    Or stack every defensive buff you have and carry on as normal, my Vulcan's Cruiser easily ignores the wave effect. Have to spam heals of course afterwards, but it is perfectly survivable.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Aight.... the Crystalline Entity STF is just too darn hard at the moment.... my main character is fully and properly geared, and I get eaten alive! Before I could do the Elite version easily, but this is just ridiculous.

    Please remove all the "extra's" from the STF.... this is no fun anymore :mad:

    this is a joke right? I did 3 non elite in about 30 minute's tonight and elite is not that much harder, I have nothing out of the ordinary in my gear mostly just regular game drop items and I`m not that great a player.
    ok I got knocked out a few times on elite yesterday but as long as you have a supply of repair modules its no biggie.
    the only thing I do is just attack the entity ignore everything else, as long as you and the rest of the team does that it wont take long to finish the entity off.
    most importantly don't shoot the large shards they break up into smaller shards and they are a darn nuisance so just take no notice of them and concentrait all your fire power on the entity.

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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I hardly play STO that much lately and when I do is mostly pvp and this was still easy. I did elite Crystaline twice today, won 1st both times and didn't notice anything different or harder about it. Its fine as it is, leave it alone.
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  • nachtfangennachtfangen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The only change that annoys me are the clouds.
    Don't care that they slow you down, but I do care that they block your view of everything.

    Otherwise - difficulty is pretty much the same. More hostile ships, but number of shards is the same.

    Just ran elite with a pickup group and spent 2/3 of the fight on less than 20% hull because no one was throwing heals that I saw.
  • pompoulusspompouluss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    What's kind of sad, in a way, is that in many games folks would all get a chuckle out a thread like this - because they'd know it was an obvious joke. But this is STO...and sadly...it might not be a joke.

    There is no MMO forum that would take this thread as a joke. It's the kind of thread that gets things changed. If there's one thing MMO developers know how to do, it is make their game easier, and easier, and easier.

    And this is how it happens.
  • sentinel64sentinel64 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I regularly play elite and the special event version only added back the fissures and outlying Tholians that can be ignored. Focus on crystal, shards and ships close by; however, don't get to close and keep moving.
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