..., i am forced to play certain builds and skills that I dont want to play.
...
hmm. i am not and i still pew with a lot of "unconform" builds .
f.e. kumari, dhc-gal-x, a torp bomber i not met yet like, and some more. all ship-types included and no a2b's. if you want to make a ship viable in pvp, u can. i am very convinced by that! but it always also depends on the environment/team/opponents, that simple. sometimes it works, sometimes not. there are no "i-win"-buttons .
Rsp isn't the be all end all of not being able to kill someone. I can just jump into a wells, and eat through his hull with warp plasma, gravity well and repulsors.
Interesting response.
The last few times I've PVP'd, it seems only a minority (~20%) of players were *not* flying lockbox ships. Along with the insane speed of most PVP ships these days, this and the merged KDF / Fed teams are things that have caused me to stop the minimal PVP I was doing... it just doesn't feel like Trek, just a random assortment of ships speeding about...
The last few times I've PVP'd, it seems only a minority (~20%) of players were *not* flying lockbox ships. Along with the insane speed of most PVP ships these days, this and the merged KDF / Fed teams are things that have caused me to stop the minimal PVP I was doing... it just doesn't feel like Trek, just a random assortment of ships speeding about...
To stay competitive in PvP, you have to fly the latest power creep cryptic releases, most of the time that's a lockbox ship.
like i said ,I play pvp then come here to read posts like yours which make for every cent spent
What are you? Twelve years old?
It wasn't my intent to amuse you. It was my intent to point out that attitudes like yours slowly kill PvP over time.
And that dicks exist in both PvE and PvP.
And that there are decent, sporting players that simply do both for fun. Plus, they don't act like immature jackasses in the process.
I'd thought that I'd point that out in simpler terms for you, since reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit. All you saw was DURR HURR PVE HEERO QQING 'BOUT MY MAD 1337 SKILLZ CUZ HEZ TEH SUXXOR!!1111!11ONEELENTY11! :rolleyes:
Not desiring to play with assclowns with low self esteem, regardless of venue, doesn't in any way make me some kind of "PvE Hero" or "Kirk".
2 bop 1 scimi 2 drain build sci vessels and 5 bug ships or 4 stealth 3 bug ships and 3 sci. You cant survive vs 2 stealth more than 10 sec (only if you use reverse shield polarity)
pvp is like: bop, scimi, temporal, bug ship combination.
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of a bunch of vampires, looking to get the first bloody taste.
It wasn't my intent to amuse you. It was my intent to point out that attitudes like yours slowly kill PvP over time.
And that dicks exist in both PvE and PvP.
And that there are decent, sporting players that simply do both for fun. Plus, they don't act like immature jackasses in the process.
I'd thought that I'd point that out in simpler terms for you, since reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit. All you saw was DURR HURR PVE HEERO QQING 'BOUT MY MAD 1337 SKILLZ CUZ HEZ TEH SUXXOR!!1111!11ONEELENTY11! :rolleyes:
Not desiring to play with assclowns with low self esteem, regardless of venue, doesn't in any way make me some kind of "PvE Hero" or "Kirk".
The last few times I've PVP'd, it seems only a minority (~20%) of players were *not* flying lockbox ships. Along with the insane speed of most PVP ships these days, this and the merged KDF / Fed teams are things that have caused me to stop the minimal PVP I was doing... it just doesn't feel like Trek, just a random assortment of ships speeding about...
So, a2b faw'ing with your cruiser/carrier feels more like trek?
So, a2b faw'ing with your cruiser/carrier feels more like trek?
PvP is the only real Trek left in this game.
*looks at the voice work done by Star Trek stars. all of the canon ships, the main storyline that has strong DS9 overtones, the well made recreations of places, bridges, and ships from the shows, movies, and books.*
......You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right. Starfleet/KDF/Republic officers killing themselves over and over and over again is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO very 'Trek'. I mean think about it. Every Star Trek eps was always about fighting and nothing else.
*looks at the voice work done by Star Trek stars. all of the canon ships, the main storyline that has strong DS9 overtones, the well made recreations of places, bridges, and ships from the shows, movies, and books.*
......You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right. Starfleet/KDF/Republic officers killing themselves over and over and over again is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO very 'Trek'. I mean think about it. Every Star Trek eps was always about fighting and nothing else.
Well, to me, discussing strategies, forming a team, acting as a unit and adapting to your opponents feels way more like trek than hammering my spacebar in an eSTF or butchering stupid dinosaurs with freakin lasers...
There are a lot trek aspects in PvP. Like "the needs of the many" - you have to make sacrifices in order to be a succesful team.
Still we're talking about a video game that is focused on fighting. So what fighting is more kinda "trekish"? Stupid dps ego trips in PvE or teamwork and thinking in PvP? :rolleyes:
In PvP you have to act like a real captain!
Yes, you might even have a lot more trek feel when doing featured episodes or foundry missions. But those are boring after you played'em 1 or 2 times...and real trek stuff like exploration doesn't exist in this game.
I do play PVP occasionally these day.
Sometimes I go 1 v 1 with a fellow FA for testing purposes.
Sometimes we PVP in groups in-fleet for training and/or pew pew fun.
I do frequent ker'rat when I'm feeling angry and just want to hunt something in my scimi.
Generally I avoid the queues because of some of the attitudes I see there which originally put me off PVP (for a year or so, in fact I only started PVPing seriously to kill some of these guys and have a moment of quiet satisfaction).
You know the type if you've played PVP, the guys insulting your "inferior" build, posting their parser details constantly in chat, spawn camping and generally being asshats.
We stick (mostly) to PVP in-fleet as we are always gracious in both defeat and victory, pointing out the strengths and weaknesses in each others build to perhaps help them refine it. Every match ends in at the very least a "gf" (good fight), before 9/10 times a refreshing brainstorming session ensues.
I personally PVE more than PVP, just because the rewards are there for whatever grind I'm on, but I do thoroughly enjoy a good "friendly" PVP from time to time to get the pulse going a bit more and to help me find holes in my build I didn't know existed before. Having a human give you actual well thought out constructive feedback can be far more productive than simply watching a helpless NPC go pop.
I am hoping to start running some friendly cross fleet PVP with allied fleets just to spice things up a bit as its often the attitudes to PVP (imo) that make or break the experience.
When I get splattered, I want to know WHY, and I'm happy to learn from my enemy in order to better my performance in the future.
So yes,(rambled a bit) but I do PVP and as time goes on so do more and more of my fleet-mates when they see respect to both the victor and the loser in chat.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Well, to me, discussing strategies, forming a team, acting as a unit and adapting to your opponents feels way more like trek than hammering my spacebar in an eSTF or butchering stupid dinosaurs with freakin lasers...
There are a lot trek aspects in PvP. Like "the needs of the many" - you have to make sacrifices in order to be a succesful team.
Still we're talking about a video game that is focused on fighting. So what fighting is more kinda "trekish"? Stupid dps ego trips in PvE or teamwork and thinking in PvP? :rolleyes:
In PvP you have to act like a real captain!
Yes, you might even have a lot more trek feel when doing featured episodes or foundry missions. But those are boring after you played'em 1 or 2 times...and real trek stuff like exploration doesn't exist in this game.
Teamwork is a key part of any MMO. PVP or PVE and if you really think that is not the case in STO's PVE content then I call you out to run it all by yourself and beat it. Before you try to call me chicken I will fight ten of STO's top PVPers by myself and bet money they would not kill me.
Also PVP in STO is nothing like fighting any Trek show.
I used to PvP before they mixed the ques. now all I have left is kerrat but last time I went in it was just full of feddy bear farmers that started yelling im reporting you over and over again because I was killing them. in a PvP zone jeese it just seems no real reason to PvP anylonger. I don't like the Klingons being in a civil war so I don't want to fight other Klingon I want to kill feds or rommys . and as I said kerrat is is getting ruined by feddy bear farmers.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
So, a2b faw'ing with your cruiser/carrier feels more like trek?
PvP is the only real Trek left in this game.
Oh, please. Do you have to resort to a personal attack? (Which is wrong BTW... not *everyone* uses that tactic).
I enjoyed PVP more when you had defined Fed / KDF teams. In STFs, there is at least a narrative explaining the Fed / Klingon / Romulan Alliance. Not so PVP.
After each match vs a GOOD fleet i feel good like in real life after doing some sport
Will be ncie if the PVEers can think to form real premade and try to be competitiv VS others fleet
Killing 10 000 time tactical cube is not giving real sensation of victory like PVP does
What is it with so many PVP specialists of the game that they feel the need to lay into anyone who enjoys other aspects of the game? Perhaps there are other reasons that people play STO than "challenge" or "the sensation of victory"? God forbid that anyone should have enough going on elsewhere in their life that STO is mere mental wallpaper...
STO has a lot of casual players who don't have / want to spend hours developing and training teams, or to depend on hair-trigger reflexes, or to be insulted by 14-year-olds for their lack of videogame skills. Many PVPers are absolute gentlemen and I've had some great laughs in PVP. Unfortunately the more elitist elements end up giving the entire affair a bad name...
Yes I PVP. I haven't been doing it that long but I do like it. I also know that weapons that can kill anyone with one hit will ruin pvp..uh hmm crafting anyone. You know what I mean.
PvP? Yes, always, it's the only reason remained that keeps me tied to STO, and the only one that keeps me grinding for better stuff to put into pvp to be competitive
I've never pvp'd in this game, I tried one match during launch week in Neverwinter (never again), I did a little in WoW back..... before Burning Crusade? Other than that, nothing. I don't play competitive FPS, don't play MOBAs, don't play MP RTS's, etc. I don't care for the vile attitudes, the jock-bro testosterone poisoning, the griefing ("Of course a lv90 insta-squishing lv20's is 'real pvp'. There's two players, aren't there?")..... none of it. And I don't get my feelings of self-worth by topping charts in games. I play videogames for fun & relaxation, not competition.
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hmm. i am not and i still pew with a lot of "unconform" builds
f.e. kumari, dhc-gal-x, a torp bomber i not met yet like, and some more. all ship-types included and no a2b's. if you want to make a ship viable in pvp, u can. i am very convinced by that! but it always also depends on the environment/team/opponents, that simple. sometimes it works, sometimes not. there are no "i-win"-buttons
Interesting response.
The last few times I've PVP'd, it seems only a minority (~20%) of players were *not* flying lockbox ships. Along with the insane speed of most PVP ships these days, this and the merged KDF / Fed teams are things that have caused me to stop the minimal PVP I was doing... it just doesn't feel like Trek, just a random assortment of ships speeding about...
To stay competitive in PvP, you have to fly the latest power creep cryptic releases, most of the time that's a lockbox ship.
And you wonder why people don't want to pvp? :cool:
That's not my point, perhaps look at what i titled the thread.
What are you? Twelve years old?
It wasn't my intent to amuse you. It was my intent to point out that attitudes like yours slowly kill PvP over time.
And that dicks exist in both PvE and PvP.
And that there are decent, sporting players that simply do both for fun. Plus, they don't act like immature jackasses in the process.
I'd thought that I'd point that out in simpler terms for you, since reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit. All you saw was DURR HURR PVE HEERO QQING 'BOUT MY MAD 1337 SKILLZ CUZ HEZ TEH SUXXOR!!1111!11ONEELENTY11! :rolleyes:
Not desiring to play with assclowns with low self esteem, regardless of venue, doesn't in any way make me some kind of "PvE Hero" or "Kirk".
So, grow up. :rolleyes:
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of a bunch of vampires, looking to get the first bloody taste.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
calm down and go kill some borgs
The punchline to a particularly bad joke.
After each match vs a GOOD fleet i feel good like in real life after doing some sport
Will be ncie if the PVEers can think to form real premade and try to be competitiv VS others fleet
Killing 10 000 time tactical cube is not giving real sensation of victory like PVP does
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I used to PvE
But since season nine
I haven't had time,
I just open and close UI windows weee
So, a2b faw'ing with your cruiser/carrier feels more like trek?
PvP is the only real Trek left in this game.
*looks at the voice work done by Star Trek stars. all of the canon ships, the main storyline that has strong DS9 overtones, the well made recreations of places, bridges, and ships from the shows, movies, and books.*
......You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right. Starfleet/KDF/Republic officers killing themselves over and over and over again is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO very 'Trek'. I mean think about it. Every Star Trek eps was always about fighting and nothing else.
Well, to me, discussing strategies, forming a team, acting as a unit and adapting to your opponents feels way more like trek than hammering my spacebar in an eSTF or butchering stupid dinosaurs with freakin lasers...
There are a lot trek aspects in PvP. Like "the needs of the many" - you have to make sacrifices in order to be a succesful team.
Still we're talking about a video game that is focused on fighting. So what fighting is more kinda "trekish"? Stupid dps ego trips in PvE or teamwork and thinking in PvP? :rolleyes:
In PvP you have to act like a real captain!
Yes, you might even have a lot more trek feel when doing featured episodes or foundry missions. But those are boring after you played'em 1 or 2 times...and real trek stuff like exploration doesn't exist in this game.
Sometimes I go 1 v 1 with a fellow FA for testing purposes.
Sometimes we PVP in groups in-fleet for training and/or pew pew fun.
I do frequent ker'rat when I'm feeling angry and just want to hunt something in my scimi.
Generally I avoid the queues because of some of the attitudes I see there which originally put me off PVP (for a year or so, in fact I only started PVPing seriously to kill some of these guys and have a moment of quiet satisfaction).
You know the type if you've played PVP, the guys insulting your "inferior" build, posting their parser details constantly in chat, spawn camping and generally being asshats.
We stick (mostly) to PVP in-fleet as we are always gracious in both defeat and victory, pointing out the strengths and weaknesses in each others build to perhaps help them refine it. Every match ends in at the very least a "gf" (good fight), before 9/10 times a refreshing brainstorming session ensues.
I personally PVE more than PVP, just because the rewards are there for whatever grind I'm on, but I do thoroughly enjoy a good "friendly" PVP from time to time to get the pulse going a bit more and to help me find holes in my build I didn't know existed before. Having a human give you actual well thought out constructive feedback can be far more productive than simply watching a helpless NPC go pop.
I am hoping to start running some friendly cross fleet PVP with allied fleets just to spice things up a bit as its often the attitudes to PVP (imo) that make or break the experience.
When I get splattered, I want to know WHY, and I'm happy to learn from my enemy in order to better my performance in the future.
So yes,(rambled a bit) but I do PVP and as time goes on so do more and more of my fleet-mates when they see respect to both the victor and the loser in chat.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Teamwork is a key part of any MMO. PVP or PVE and if you really think that is not the case in STO's PVE content then I call you out to run it all by yourself and beat it. Before you try to call me chicken I will fight ten of STO's top PVPers by myself and bet money they would not kill me.
Also PVP in STO is nothing like fighting any Trek show.
Please can I watch this, because I would bet money you will be a cloud of atoms very quickly
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Oh, please. Do you have to resort to a personal attack? (Which is wrong BTW... not *everyone* uses that tactic).
I enjoyed PVP more when you had defined Fed / KDF teams. In STFs, there is at least a narrative explaining the Fed / Klingon / Romulan Alliance. Not so PVP.
What is it with so many PVP specialists of the game that they feel the need to lay into anyone who enjoys other aspects of the game? Perhaps there are other reasons that people play STO than "challenge" or "the sensation of victory"? God forbid that anyone should have enough going on elsewhere in their life that STO is mere mental wallpaper...
STO has a lot of casual players who don't have / want to spend hours developing and training teams, or to depend on hair-trigger reflexes, or to be insulted by 14-year-olds for their lack of videogame skills. Many PVPers are absolute gentlemen and I've had some great laughs in PVP. Unfortunately the more elitist elements end up giving the entire affair a bad name...
I've never pvp'd in this game, I tried one match during launch week in Neverwinter (never again), I did a little in WoW back..... before Burning Crusade? Other than that, nothing. I don't play competitive FPS, don't play MOBAs, don't play MP RTS's, etc. I don't care for the vile attitudes, the jock-bro testosterone poisoning, the griefing ("Of course a lv90 insta-squishing lv20's is 'real pvp'. There's two players, aren't there?")..... none of it. And I don't get my feelings of self-worth by topping charts in games. I play videogames for fun & relaxation, not competition.