Players want everything under the Sun, its impossible to please this community,
That isn't entirely true. If they really wanted to please us they'd give us our more reasonable requests. LIKE FIXING DEFERA. But even something that simple is unrealistic. Ruminate on that one for a bit.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
First MMO, eh? I say that because this has been the model used for every major MMO expansion since the early days of Ultima Online and Ever Quest. World of W arcraft usually had gear from the first quest line of a new expansion (aka new 'green') that BLEW AWAY stats on gear some players spent two years raiding for.
Again, your position is valid; but if that's really how you feel, I'd go back to single player games and steer clear of MMOs.
A question in return! Do they offer any, ANY variety? No! They will offer you a single Episode and a lot of dull PvE Grind against non-bright NPCs. The only variety left in this game is PvP (totally neglected concerning updates), which requires a full high-end requip (->immense Grind), and a very rare amount of good Foundry Missions.
If they would come up with a year full of new content stuff, okay, but they won't. All they offer your in return for Level Cap Increase is a load of dumb grind, grind and more dumb grind.
Guys, reserve your nerdrage until we get a lot of solid info.
Than if things still look bad and stuff on tribble sucks, we can all unleash that pent up rage.
But its pointless to gnash teeth at a few vague hints.
This in a nutshell people.
I mean seriously. Some of you are complaining about a lack of free upgrades before we know everything. Isn't that like a logic fail or something? You're assuming that because it makes sense for Cryptic to not upgrade T5 ships, that you are screwed over because of a Level Cap.
Second...there was a poll some months back where Voyager won as the series people wanted to see more Trek content from in STO. Guess what, Delta Quadrant was the center focus of Voyager. So obviously we were going to the Delta Quadrant. (This has been hinted at since Sphere of Influence).
So how about holding your horses till we get facts or did we suddenly start jumping to conclusions around here?
All ships that you've invested in will continue to be useful. We will have more information later about the specifics.
I love the deliberate ambiguity here...asking for details on a huge expansion is like asking an attorney how to do math.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
our ships will still be useful, but you want us to pay more now because the T6 versions will do stuff our ships will not.....way to give us the finger cryptic
That isn't entirely true. If they really wanted to please us they'd give us our more reasonable requests. LIKE FIXING DEFERA. But even something that simple is unrealistic. Ruminate on that one for a bit.
I'm going to be honest, I couldn't care less about Defera, so in this example I'd rather they focus elsewhere, perhaps the feel like their efforts are better spent elsewhere as well
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And yes, a nice well planned out PR move can easily dispell or validate suspicions. There is no reason to be mad yet.
Whine when you have to whine, and when it can have a useful effect.
This announcment is about a new still planned expansion. Details are not set in stone yet, and we'll be able to make a more objective opinion as soon as we get a bit of explanations.
Than we can rage or be happy. But do remember, Cryptic does need to make money, and a lot of MMOs have raised caps before. In fact, Cryptic did said that they were thinking about it for years, this should not be a surprise.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
EDIT: Level 50 to 60 and story based content confirmed. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
Mark MK XII and MK XIV confirmed. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
New methods of captain advancement via specialization trees. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
Many new races to encounter. Cool, I want to get to grips with the Kazon
Tier 6 ships introducing new class of starships and new class of boffs. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
Voyager interior (I'm told the option with or without Neelix's kitchen.) 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
Better intrepid model Meh.
Exploration I don't have a funny comment for this as I WANT EXPLORATION VERY MUCH.
Homeworld of a rarely seen species. Ferenginar! (I know it's not in the Delta quadrant, but i can hope.)
Many new ships for all factions. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
New ships having new powers. 2 months? Testing, testing, testing, testing, QA! QA! QA! QA!
There were new concepts of new world art. Looking forward to seeing it, STO does have some nice artwork.
Tim Russ will return as Tuvok. Several more Voyager cast will be joining. Garret Wang the next confirmed actor reprising his role as Harry Kim. COOL!
Harry Kim will be captain of the Rhode Island. COOL!
Talaxians and Ocampans will be allies, unsure if they will be playable right now. Meh.
Looking forward to seeing some more info on this C'mon PWE don't be shy, share it with us. Get it to Tribble as soon as possible and please listen to our whining, or feedback as we like to call it. This could easily be your chance to shine so we can all be glad that we stuck with it.
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I'm going to be honest, I couldn't care less about Defera, so in this example I'd rather they focus elsewhere, perhaps the feel like their efforts are better spent elsewhere as well
It was just an obvious example of a reasonable request made by players. "WE WANT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN," RIGHT? wELL, THE FIRST THING TO GIVE US IS A GAME THAT ACTUALLY WORKS PROPERLY.
And I apologize for the caps. Typing too fast, not trying to be obnoxious there.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
Why do they need to announce radical chances when I'm about to buy the Vestas once and for all?
TRIBBLE my dilithium, I want the Multi Mission Explorers.
I got the vestas and I'm disapointed in them. You want a real powerful ship that even a sci can use? Get Fleet Patrol Escort Refit? Not for you..? Then you dont plan on being strong..
All ships that you've invested in will continue to be useful. We will have more information later about the specifics.
To be fair though, one of my level 50 characters was still flying their tier 4 Sao Paulo-class escort until recently. By definition it was still "useful", but clearly obsolete compared to the alternatives at tier 5. It's the exact definition of "useful" that's problematic right now.
All ships that you've invested in will continue to be useful. We will have more information later about the specifics.
but sub par?
Got to be honest, was thinking up picking up a ship from the C-Store this weekend. Not going to happen now. Just not going to spend any money till I see what hits holodeck in Oct. and with the track recording of nerfing stuff post launch... I doubt I will spend any money till Nov.
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Got to be honest, was thinking up picking up a ship from the C-Store this weekend. Not going to happen now. Just not going to spend any money till I see was hits holodeck in Oct. and with the track recording of nerfing stuff post launch... I doubt I will spend any money till Nov.
Since I was disappointed with Season 9.5, I thought I would sign into the system by October. Unless I see some good explanation, I might not sign into STO until next March. Heck, I may not even sign into the game at all. Everything now hinges on this one explanation.
We are now talking about allot of money being lost on rep systems, fleet holdings, lockboxes, etc...
I think this is 'one' of the most important issues that have ever faced this game.
Many people put allot of money into getting top-level gear.
It was just an obvious example of a reasonable request made by players. "WE WANT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN," RIGHT? wELL, THE FIRST THING TO GIVE US IS A GAME THAT ACTUALLY WORKS PROPERLY.
And I apologize for the caps. Typing too fast, not trying to be obnoxious there.
well thats one reasonable request,
Then we have,-
- I want fleet base NPCs to use custom uniforms, = complex code required, dev time consumed
- I want X ship to be introduced - Legal department + dev time
- Add X damage system/ Change how deaths work/ etc
- This proc or that proc = balancing mechanics is no simple feat
- not to mention the number of mechaincs and feature requests for Foundry mechanics, like OR logic toggles
I could go on for a long time on the number of very difficult requests that players come up with , to use the old phrase, everything under the sun has or will be asked for
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Those of you concerned with older ships becoming "obsolete". I would recommend holding off the pitchforks and torches and listen to the Q and A that will be happening soon.
All I can say is that I hope Lockbox/Lobi ships will be upgraded to match. As is, I exclusively use them, and nothing else. I have 5 characters, and 4 have Lockbox/Lobi ships. The only reason the 5th doesn't is because he is Science, and we don't have any Lockbox/Lobi ships that are as useful as the Vesta's full Auxiliary build.
And with all the stuff we all dumped into XII fleet gear, we need a way to upgrade all of it to XIV.
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Wasn't it confirmed last time that the model was done?
That isn't entirely true. If they really wanted to please us they'd give us our more reasonable requests. LIKE FIXING DEFERA. But even something that simple is unrealistic. Ruminate on that one for a bit.
A question in return! Do they offer any, ANY variety? No! They will offer you a single Episode and a lot of dull PvE Grind against non-bright NPCs. The only variety left in this game is PvP (totally neglected concerning updates), which requires a full high-end requip (->immense Grind), and a very rare amount of good Foundry Missions.
If they would come up with a year full of new content stuff, okay, but they won't. All they offer your in return for Level Cap Increase is a load of dumb grind, grind and more dumb grind.
True, but this is all so easy to defuse.
Tell us how the upgrade works.
It's a simple PR job, and someone needs to step up to the plate.
Who's awesome? You're awesome.
You are also awesome.
This in a nutshell people.
I mean seriously. Some of you are complaining about a lack of free upgrades before we know everything. Isn't that like a logic fail or something? You're assuming that because it makes sense for Cryptic to not upgrade T5 ships, that you are screwed over because of a Level Cap.
Second...there was a poll some months back where Voyager won as the series people wanted to see more Trek content from in STO. Guess what, Delta Quadrant was the center focus of Voyager. So obviously we were going to the Delta Quadrant. (This has been hinted at since Sphere of Influence).
So how about holding your horses till we get facts or did we suddenly start jumping to conclusions around here?
I love the deliberate ambiguity here...asking for details on a huge expansion is like asking an attorney how to do math.
Please.
can we at least have geko moved to the PvE department?
Not to be such a flogging dead horse here or anything...but I really don't think you all can hold off on that information....
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I'm going to be honest, I couldn't care less about Defera, so in this example I'd rather they focus elsewhere, perhaps the feel like their efforts are better spent elsewhere as well
Thank you!
And yes, a nice well planned out PR move can easily dispell or validate suspicions. There is no reason to be mad yet.
Whine when you have to whine, and when it can have a useful effect.
This announcment is about a new still planned expansion. Details are not set in stone yet, and we'll be able to make a more objective opinion as soon as we get a bit of explanations.
Than we can rage or be happy. But do remember, Cryptic does need to make money, and a lot of MMOs have raised caps before. In fact, Cryptic did said that they were thinking about it for years, this should not be a surprise.
Looking forward to seeing some more info on this C'mon PWE don't be shy, share it with us. Get it to Tribble as soon as possible and please listen to our whining, or feedback as we like to call it. This could easily be your chance to shine so we can all be glad that we stuck with it.
It was just an obvious example of a reasonable request made by players. "WE WANT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN," RIGHT? wELL, THE FIRST THING TO GIVE US IS A GAME THAT ACTUALLY WORKS PROPERLY.
And I apologize for the caps. Typing too fast, not trying to be obnoxious there.
I got the vestas and I'm disapointed in them. You want a real powerful ship that even a sci can use? Get Fleet Patrol Escort Refit? Not for you..? Then you dont plan on being strong..
Is there any Laser-Mech-Dino MMO?
I think there needs to be an emergency blog released.
I think that elephant is a whole lot bigger than the room.
To be fair though, one of my level 50 characters was still flying their tier 4 Sao Paulo-class escort until recently. By definition it was still "useful", but clearly obsolete compared to the alternatives at tier 5. It's the exact definition of "useful" that's problematic right now.
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but sub par?
Got to be honest, was thinking up picking up a ship from the C-Store this weekend. Not going to happen now. Just not going to spend any money till I see what hits holodeck in Oct. and with the track recording of nerfing stuff post launch... I doubt I will spend any money till Nov.
Given the S9.5 release I'm going to have to take a 'believe it when I see it' approach on this one.
We are now talking about allot of money being lost on rep systems, fleet holdings, lockboxes, etc...
I think this is 'one' of the most important issues that have ever faced this game.
Many people put allot of money into getting top-level gear.
well thats one reasonable request,
Then we have,-
- I want fleet base NPCs to use custom uniforms, = complex code required, dev time consumed
- I want X ship to be introduced - Legal department + dev time
- Add X damage system/ Change how deaths work/ etc
- This proc or that proc = balancing mechanics is no simple feat
- not to mention the number of mechaincs and feature requests for Foundry mechanics, like OR logic toggles
I could go on for a long time on the number of very difficult requests that players come up with , to use the old phrase, everything under the sun has or will be asked for
And with all the stuff we all dumped into XII fleet gear, we need a way to upgrade all of it to XIV.
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