Yeah but a time frame would be nice I still think it needs be it own class and maybe a first ship with 5 forward and 5 aft weapon slots but that is a pip dream
If they make a refit of a more than 100 year old ship and make it more powerful than modern ship something is clearly going in the wrong direction. Classic 4/4 is good for a cruiser and if you just use energy wepons, no torpedo you have no problem with wasted DMG potential due to cooldowns and can focus all your skills on energy weapons to get more DPS.
Just sad that they made nothing out of Captain Picard day. THey have the Constellation and could have made such a nice historical memorable event. Maybe even something with the original U.S.S. Stargazer.
If the devs are even paying attention to this thread, maybe they can release the Constellation as part of the new release/update to crafting.
You could say that losses fighting the Borg, Klingons, Elachi, Undine, and soon the Iconians has forced Starfleet to focus on refitting older ships ... and we need resources to craft new upgrades to make all our ships as combat-ready as possible.
Two birds, one stone. Players get the Constellation we keep asking for and we all get the changes to crafting (and PWE makes money on the C-store Constellation and gets more people spending hours grinding in the game while crafting).
It's a win-win.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
by the the 5/5 weapons would only be for the fleet ships kinda pointless to have 2 ships witht he same weapons load out. be a waste of resources if the next class didn't out performe the prior onr.
Please no Curry. If that ship comes i want a "friendly fire" option so i can make those Buckets go away.
I actually like the Idea of a flight deck cruiser. I think i mentioned in one of the Constellation related threads. And actually a 4/3 Weapons layout would make sense. for that but since we already have 4/4 escorts (tempest) i think it should be 4/4. And cryptic should stop giving ships more and more weapon slots and make them OP. First make enemies stronger then maybe with season 12 we can think about Mk XIII weapons and 5/4 or 5/5 cruisers.
The Constitution class had Phaser emitters on the engineering section which covered the aft firing arc. I do not think the Constellation has aft phasers, i only know about the ones on the Saucer section (the whole ship is basically a sauer section with Nacelles attached to it) ann maybee aft torpedo launchers between the nacelles. THe torpedoes were the main advantage the Constellation had when the cross esction i saw were richt. Two fwd. firinglaunchers between the upper nacelles, two between the lower nacelles and also one or two aft firing launcers each. But it had no aft Phasers as i said. I dont know if that would have any influence on the weapons layout in STO, but i do not think so.
Please no Curry. If that ship comes i want a "friendly fire" option so i can make those Buckets go away.
I actually like the Idea of a flight deck cruiser. I think i mentioned in one of the Constellation related threads. And actually a 4/3 Weapons layout would make sense. for that but since we already have 4/4 escorts (tempest) i think it should be 4/4. And cryptic should stop giving ships more and more weapon slots and make them OP. First make enemies stronger then maybe with season 12 we can think about Mk XIII weapons and 5/4 or 5/5 cruisers.
The Constitution class had Phaser emitters on the engineering section which covered the aft firing arc. I do not think the Constellation has aft phasers, i only know about the ones on the Saucer section (the whole ship is basically a sauer section with Nacelles attached to it) ann maybee aft torpedo launchers between the nacelles. THe torpedoes were the main advantage the Constellation had when the cross esction i saw were richt. Two fwd. firinglaunchers between the upper nacelles, two between the lower nacelles and also one or two aft firing launcers each. But it had no aft Phasers as i said. I dont know if that would have any influence on the weapons layout in STO, but i do not think so.
Dude Curry is better than Regent or Avenger. but the Constellation is soo small fior be a flight deck
I'd like to see the Curry-class implemented in-game. Where else do you get a kitbashed Constitution-class warp nacelles mixed with a modified Excelsior-class? I still remember seeing it during DS9's original airing.
I'd argue about the Constellation-class being too small for a flight deck. Because it has multiple shuttle bay hangars, it qualifies.
A flight deck doesn't have to be an aircraft carrier runway designation. Shuttles and fighters don't need to get up to speed to launch or land. Take any TOS shuttlebay launch or DS9 pad launch as examples.
With several shuttle bays, I think a Constellation-class should be able to handle a compliment of shuttles. I'd wonder whether shuttles like Runabouts are too big for the Constellation's bays, though.
Ok guys update on the Constellation Class according to Smirkette in todays twitch video my question was answered by Smirkette The Class was to be realeased on Picards Day but the plans changed for ship, it may be realeased int eh future but he really didn't now at the time saying Maybe in the Furure it will be Realeased. So hopefully the class is Released I did and will tell him the damnd for that Class is pretty large and maybe needs bring it up to to the devs.
Personal note: It would be nice if our Community Manager (looking at you, PWCaptainSmirk!) could have made a statement on June 16th ("Captain Picard Day") instead of letting the community spin up about that topic. Despite mentioning it three weeks earlier that something would be done (sans ship releases) -- without any follow-up.
And Cryptic/PWE wonders why the Community gets miffed about certain things...
Thanks, spielman, for sharing that nugget of information.
theres 2 problems with the curry, its configuration makes absolutely no sense, and its constitution style nacelles are not properly scaled with the excelsior parts.
theres 2 problems with the curry, its configuration makes absolutely no sense, and its constitution style nacelles are not properly scaled with the excelsior parts.
You might not want to park a Centaur right next to an Excelsior in-game then. D=
First i wanna say that the Centaur makes more sense than the Curry. The Curry can not use the lower fwd. Phaser array of the Saucer section without firing through the Engineering section. The Sensor Dome of the Curry is also blocked. And the explanation that the neck of the original Curry had been damaged beyond repair can not be right.
Why?
Because the curry still has an Excelsior neck below the Saucer section which is now on the aft end of the ship.
And the shuttlebay or what that structure was bacck there has been moved to the front end.
From any point of view it would have been better to build a new excelsior thant to invest much time to make this kitbash.
Thats also why i think we should not get the Curry and Yeager in-game.
They are kitbashes of several ships, emergency solutions in a time of war. It was also wrong to include the Centaur as a Class (and we can argue about ship classes that are older than a century still being in service like Miranda and Connie)but the Centaur had the potential to be the first of a new class, i dont see that for the Curry.
And the Centaur actually looks good, Currs does not..
Seriously how can anyone say the Curry looks better than the Regent or Avenger? The Avenger is no beauty but still better than the Curry.
And back to Topic: The Constellation could be a flight deck cruiser. Always remember that, while it shares some similarities with the Connie, it is not a constitution class kitbash. The Saucer section has more decks and is wider than the Constitution class saucer so transporting a wing of fighters would work.
First i wanna say that the Centaur makes more sense than the Curry. The Curry can not use the lower fwd. Phaser array of the Saucer section without firing through the Engineering section. The Sensor Dome of the Curry is also blocked. And the explanation that the neck of the original Curry had been damaged beyond repair can not be right.
Why?
Because the curry still has an Excelsior neck below the Saucer section which is now on the aft end of the ship.
And the shuttlebay or what that structure was bacck there has been moved to the front end.
From any point of view it would have been better to build a new excelsior thant to invest much time to make this kitbash.
Thats also why i think we should not get the Curry and Yeager in-game.
They are kitbashes of several ships, emergency solutions in a time of war. It was also wrong to include the Centaur as a Class (and we can argue about ship classes that are older than a century still being in service like Miranda and Connie)but the Centaur had the potential to be the first of a new class, i dont see that for the Curry.
And the Centaur actually looks good, Currs does not..
Seriously how can anyone say the Curry looks better than the Regent or Avenger? The Avenger is no beauty but still better than the Curry.
And back to Topic: The Constellation could be a flight deck cruiser. Always remember that, while it shares some similarities with the Connie, it is not a constitution class kitbash. The Saucer section has more decks and is wider than the Constitution class saucer so transporting a wing of fighters would work.
The Curry replaced the Ptolemy class as a tug ship. the engineering section is hollow so it can carry cargo ior in time of war be a troop transport or carrier. It's slightly younger then the Excel
You might not want to park a Centaur right next to an Excelsior in-game then. D=
The Centaur is exactly sclaed as it should be.
Those parts LOOK like they come from the Excelsior, however here's what the man who built the ship has to say on that:
Adam Buckner: "I built it for the beginning of Season 6 on DS9 as a BG ship for my episodes around the space station where the detailing and scaling would be less noticeable as being completely mixed, but when Gary Hutzel saw it, he wanted it for his Episode with the JH Bug. I added more detail at this point to make sure the scale looked like a smaller ship even tho' it was an Excelsior dish."
The Curry replaced the Ptolemy class as a tug ship. the engineering section is hollow so it can carry cargo ior in time of war be a troop transport or carrier. It's slightly younger then the Excel
The Centaur is exactly sclaed as it should be.
Those parts LOOK like they come from the Excelsior, however here's what the man who built the ship has to say on that:
Adam Buckner: "I built it for the beginning of Season 6 on DS9 as a BG ship for my episodes around the space station where the detailing and scaling would be less noticeable as being completely mixed, but when Gary Hutzel saw it, he wanted it for his Episode with the JH Bug. I added more detail at this point to make sure the scale looked like a smaller ship even tho' it was an Excelsior dish."
so it is intentionally not the same size as the Excelsior in this game as per the ship's actual design.
That makes sense in regards to the bridge, but wasn't the Centaur literally supposed to be a Frankenstein's Monster created from an Excelsior/Miranda/Connie in-universe?
Ok about the Curry and the Miranda Again Facts off of Memeory Alpha
Curry Type ( Class)
Type: Medium cruiser
◾ Production Base: ASDB Integration Facility, Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars
◾ Accommodation: 290 officers and crew
◾ Power Plant: Two 1,500+ Cochrane warp core feeding two nacelles; four impulse systems
◾ Dimensions: ◾ Length: 383.41 meters
◾ Beam: 195.64 meters
◾ Height: 148.50 meters
◾ Mass: 1,270,000 metric tons
◾ Performance: Warp 9.75 for 12 hours
◾ Armament: Ten type-9 phaser emitters; two photon torpedo launchers
A medium Cruiser was a type of vessal not really defined the Director of Deep Space nien said it was a kit bash but gave it the sory that the neck suffered massive damage that prevented the ship in war time to be full repaired so they made into a Carrier for the Pergrine Fighters as they do not have Warp Engines.
The Centaur Type ( Class)
Production Base: ASDB Integration Facility, Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars
◾ Type: Medium Cruiser
◾ Accommodation: 315 officers and crew
◾ Power Plant: One 1,500 plus Cochrane warp core feeding two nacelles; two impulse systems
◾ Dimensions: Length, 381.87 meters; beam, 320.16 meters; height, 78.54 meters
◾ Mass: 870,000 metric tonnes
◾ Performance: Warp 9.6 for 12 hours
◾ Armament: Nine type-9 phaser emitters; two photon torpedo launchers
Againe same thing Kit Bash Ship according to the director but during time of war was made to be built faster and in more numbers than other ships. Simple put it it was a an axcelsior Caucer section with excelsior nacells just smaller and the Torpedo Launcher from a Constition Class Refit mashed in to a single ship.
Pergrines to have warp drive but it's low warp and wouldn't keep up with a fleet on it's own and the torpbay is not a connies it's a Miranda rollbar.
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If they make a refit of a more than 100 year old ship and make it more powerful than modern ship something is clearly going in the wrong direction. Classic 4/4 is good for a cruiser and if you just use energy wepons, no torpedo you have no problem with wasted DMG potential due to cooldowns and can focus all your skills on energy weapons to get more DPS.
Just sad that they made nothing out of Captain Picard day. THey have the Constellation and could have made such a nice historical memorable event. Maybe even something with the original U.S.S. Stargazer.
You could say that losses fighting the Borg, Klingons, Elachi, Undine, and soon the Iconians has forced Starfleet to focus on refitting older ships ... and we need resources to craft new upgrades to make all our ships as combat-ready as possible.
Two birds, one stone. Players get the Constellation we keep asking for and we all get the changes to crafting (and PWE makes money on the C-store Constellation and gets more people spending hours grinding in the game while crafting).
It's a win-win.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
I would be happy with 4/3 or 4/4.
nah that be curry
I actually like the Idea of a flight deck cruiser. I think i mentioned in one of the Constellation related threads. And actually a 4/3 Weapons layout would make sense. for that but since we already have 4/4 escorts (tempest) i think it should be 4/4. And cryptic should stop giving ships more and more weapon slots and make them OP. First make enemies stronger then maybe with season 12 we can think about Mk XIII weapons and 5/4 or 5/5 cruisers.
The Constitution class had Phaser emitters on the engineering section which covered the aft firing arc. I do not think the Constellation has aft phasers, i only know about the ones on the Saucer section (the whole ship is basically a sauer section with Nacelles attached to it) ann maybee aft torpedo launchers between the nacelles. THe torpedoes were the main advantage the Constellation had when the cross esction i saw were richt. Two fwd. firinglaunchers between the upper nacelles, two between the lower nacelles and also one or two aft firing launcers each. But it had no aft Phasers as i said. I dont know if that would have any influence on the weapons layout in STO, but i do not think so.
Dude Curry is better than Regent or Avenger. but the Constellation is soo small fior be a flight deck
I'd argue about the Constellation-class being too small for a flight deck. Because it has multiple shuttle bay hangars, it qualifies.
A flight deck doesn't have to be an aircraft carrier runway designation. Shuttles and fighters don't need to get up to speed to launch or land. Take any TOS shuttlebay launch or DS9 pad launch as examples.
With several shuttle bays, I think a Constellation-class should be able to handle a compliment of shuttles. I'd wonder whether shuttles like Runabouts are too big for the Constellation's bays, though.
Bottom line: Bring on the Constellation-class!
Personal note: It would be nice if our Community Manager (looking at you, PWCaptainSmirk!) could have made a statement on June 16th ("Captain Picard Day") instead of letting the community spin up about that topic. Despite mentioning it three weeks earlier that something would be done (sans ship releases) -- without any follow-up.
And Cryptic/PWE wonders why the Community gets miffed about certain things...
Thanks, spielman, for sharing that nugget of information.
Nothing wrong with Curry. When properly rendered, and cleaned up a bit, it's odd looking but not that bad.
Same goes for the more compact Raging Queen type.
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Why?
Because the curry still has an Excelsior neck below the Saucer section which is now on the aft end of the ship.
And the shuttlebay or what that structure was bacck there has been moved to the front end.
From any point of view it would have been better to build a new excelsior thant to invest much time to make this kitbash.
Thats also why i think we should not get the Curry and Yeager in-game.
They are kitbashes of several ships, emergency solutions in a time of war. It was also wrong to include the Centaur as a Class (and we can argue about ship classes that are older than a century still being in service like Miranda and Connie)but the Centaur had the potential to be the first of a new class, i dont see that for the Curry.
And the Centaur actually looks good, Currs does not..
Seriously how can anyone say the Curry looks better than the Regent or Avenger? The Avenger is no beauty but still better than the Curry.
And back to Topic: The Constellation could be a flight deck cruiser. Always remember that, while it shares some similarities with the Connie, it is not a constitution class kitbash. The Saucer section has more decks and is wider than the Constitution class saucer so transporting a wing of fighters would work.
The Curry replaced the Ptolemy class as a tug ship. the engineering section is hollow so it can carry cargo ior in time of war be a troop transport or carrier. It's slightly younger then the Excel
The Centaur is exactly sclaed as it should be.
Those parts LOOK like they come from the Excelsior, however here's what the man who built the ship has to say on that:
Adam Buckner: "I built it for the beginning of Season 6 on DS9 as a BG ship for my episodes around the space station where the detailing and scaling would be less noticeable as being completely mixed, but when Gary Hutzel saw it, he wanted it for his Episode with the JH Bug. I added more detail at this point to make sure the scale looked like a smaller ship even tho' it was an Excelsior dish."
soure is here:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ds9tm.htm#centaur
so it is intentionally not the same size as the Excelsior in this game as per the ship's actual design.
Fanfiction is no viable source.
No viable source for the other. we only saw the ship a couple times for a little bit. But the idea makes sense for why make a kitbash ship like that.
*shrug* whatever the officials say about it.
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Pergrines to have warp drive but it's low warp and wouldn't keep up with a fleet on it's own and the torpbay is not a connies it's a Miranda rollbar.