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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Hrmm, guess I missed that. Then again, I mainly saw him asking folks to be nice and try to tone down the language as they spewed garbage in zone while he was there...
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Hrmm, guess I missed that. Then again, I mainly saw him asking folks to be nice and try to tone down the language as they spewed garbage in zone while he was there...

    I saw THAT, for sure.

    Seriously, people. You want the devs to give you nice shinies, and then you spew garbage all over them at the slightest TRIBBLE-up or perceived TRIBBLE-up. How would YOU feel if you were the devs???
  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    I saw THAT, for sure.

    Seriously, people. You want the devs to give you nice shinies, and then you spew garbage all over them at the slightest TRIBBLE-up or perceived TRIBBLE-up. How would YOU feel if you were the devs???
    Speaking as a consumer, someone who buys zen, I would think that maybe they would hold back from being jerks. Players are 'reacting' to how Cryptic treats everyone. Its not the other way around. Cryptic's new direction is having a large impact.

    Again, I have no problem with moving onto another game. "Star Trek: Online" is an extra expense. Since there are other games in the sea, I can find another game to play. Not a problem.

    Cryptic's latest direction is making "STO" too expensive and boring to play.

    If this game ever tanked, I can walk away without being affected.

    I might have better luck playing a single-player game.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    venkou wrote: »
    Players are 'reacting' to how Cryptic treats everyone.

    Players might be reacting to something...but uh...it's not based in reality.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Wow.
    Also, the more times you do each event, the more favors you get.

    Either that is obvious as it can be or you mean events give more rewards for multiple completions ? I haven't seen the latter. The sandcastle thing always gives two favors, even if I build a warp-capable fortress of doom. :confused:
  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Players might be reacting to something...but uh...it's not based in reality.
    Sometimes I think some of you work for Cryptic.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Players might be reacting to something...but uh...it's not based in reality.

    Usually the truth is somewhere in-between. Cryptic isn't a saintly entity of perpetual goodness and perfection...and neither are the players. :)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    venkou wrote: »
    Sometimes I think some of you work for Cryptic.
    Ever hear the saying "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"? Polite commentary goes a lot farther than angry ranting.
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  • skk1701jskk1701j Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Doing Bird Breeding you need about 60 runs a 50 makes 3k. Last year it was enough for superior floater and the cloth. But this year, the new items outnumber the amount a normal player can farm. Hopefully they make some doff missions. Helped in the winter event a lot.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    venkou wrote: »
    Sometimes I think some of you work for Cryptic.

    Sometimes I think some of you... (this message has been pre-edited to avoid receiving messages from smirk, trendy, Q, askray, bluegeek, and a special appearance from branflakes).

    Honestly, I've never seen such a group of folks react as if their whole family just died - their dog got run over - their car was stolen - their house burned down - they lost their job - they were given three months...etc, etc, etc...over the smallest little thing that happens in the game.

    They act as if Cryptic holds dark rituals communing with demons and devils, trying to find the best ways to torment those special select few that are always being so heinously victimized by the diabolical deeds and miscreant machinations that Cryptic perpetrates upon every waking moment of their existence.

    Can picture them glaring at their computer screens while they hastily post on their favorite forums about how their neighbor enjoys exercise and is using entirely too much oxygen...that there might not be enough for them to breathe one day!

    They're the folks that will expend hundreds of times the effort to complain about something rather than just listen to all the advice on how to do something that requires almost no effort.

    And in the end, I simply couldn't work for Cryptic - because I wouldn't make it to lunch before I was escorted from the building for telling all the whiny snotnosed spoiled brats to STFU with their pathetic hissyfits and to stop stinking up both the game and the forums with their soiled diapers. Cryptic would frown on an employee asking, no pleading, with some of their customerbase not to breed - while lamenting the fact there's no time travel to go back in time to beg their parents not to breed...

    ...hrmm, maybe I am going to get one of those special little messages from Q - maybe I'll get a little Summer Vacation from the forums. Wouldn't be the first time (notice the Aug 2012 instead of Jun 2012, eh?)...but I've tried to be nice over the past couple of years...but it's getting so freaking old with all these ungrateful douches whining about the smallest thing like it's the end of the world and that Cryptic is out to get them. They need to contact their mental health provider and schedule more appointments...
  • gizmox64gizmox64 Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    What level do I need to be to get there.
    I take my toon there and only classic beach lights up... :(
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    JESUS! :eek:
    Something had to be said, I am just wondering it was VD...
  • starksto#1067 starksto Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The first project on any character is 1000 Pearls. This applies an account unlock that reduces the cost of the next ship of the same time to 40 pearls (1 daily's worth) on ALL characters on that account. So, an efficient way of doing this would be to earn the 1000 on one character and unlock the account ship discount and then do a single daily mission on your alts.

    I have only just learned this information through a fleetmate.

    I have already run 14 toons through the Risa Event today, slotted the new ship on all of them and allocated 40 pearls to them all.

    This means I will have to do 350 runs of this thing in total.

    As compared to 38 if I had had this information prior.

    Is there any way at all that I can undo what I have done?

    Oh, there may have been an announcement via the Arc log in system. I don't log in using it at this point. I am a long time player and my game came in a box, not as a download, I have been logging in to the game via my desktop ever since the beginning.

    A solution to this would be greatly appreciated.
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  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tpalelena wrote: »
    The ship is mediocre. The bridge interior would have been its saving grace.

    Useless? Not completely, but you already got so many better cruiser options. Redundant (or unnecessary, or not needed) is a more accurate word.

    The interior would have likely made it something special (and not just a bridge... a full interior that would fit something that the Risans would have made. Holo-Beach, Dabo, Bank, Exchange, stuff like that.)

    Otherwise what is it? A cruiser in the shape of a cruise liner.... with lasers on it's bow.

    I am choosing my grinds more wisely these days and I just can't see doing this one.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Has anyone else noticed a fair number of tourists with Liberated Borg implants around? Is a trip to Risa part of Starfleet's rehab program for liberated drones now?

    "Risa. Its a magical place."
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    starkclan wrote: »
    I have only just learned this information through a fleetmate.

    I have already run 14 toons through the Risa Event today, slotted the new ship on all of them and allocated 40 pearls to them all.

    This means I will have to do 350 runs of this thing in total.

    As compared to 38 if I had had this information prior.

    Is there any way at all that I can undo what I have done?

    Oh, there may have been an announcement via the Arc log in system. I don't log in using it at this point. I am a long time player and my game came in a box, not as a download, I have been logging in to the game via my desktop ever since the beginning.

    A solution to this would be greatly appreciated.
    you still get the discount on already slotted projects, so just pick one of those characters, do his/her 25 runs for one liner, then all the others will automatically drop to 40 and become claimable since you already stuck 40 in each of them

    though, i think you have to have the ship in your roster for the discount to trigger, so make sure it's on a character you were planning on unpacking the ship on anyway
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    starkclan wrote: »
    I have only just learned this information through a fleetmate.

    I have already run 14 toons through the Risa Event today, slotted the new ship on all of them and allocated 40 pearls to them all.

    This means I will have to do 350 runs of this thing in total.

    As compared to 38 if I had had this information prior.

    Is there any way at all that I can undo what I have done?

    Oh, there may have been an announcement via the Arc log in system. I don't log in using it at this point. I am a long time player and my game came in a box, not as a download, I have been logging in to the game via my desktop ever since the beginning.

    A solution to this would be greatly appreciated.

    Would be nifty if it's simply a case that once it's completed on the one toon that it triggers the discount and thus completes it on the other toons. Would be interested to see what Cryptic has to say about that - cause then I'd just run the 40 for the alts sooner than later to get it out of the way so I don't forget (or have to store the 40 pearls for 25 days).

    If they say that's not the case though, you'd be faced with having "wasted" a day's runs on your toons - but you should be able to cancel that project, grab 40 pearls, and then slot it when you've completed it on the one toon to trigger the discount.

    I wouldn't cancel the projects just yet though...would definitely be nifty to get a quick answer on it though.

    edit: Well that answered that...
    you still get the discount on already slotted projects, so just pick one of those characters, do his/her 25 runs for one liner, then all the others will automatically drop to 40 and become claimable since you already stuck 40 in each of them

    though, i think you have to have the ship in your roster for the discount to trigger, so make sure it's on a character you were planning on unpacking the ship on anyway

    ...thanks, shadowfang! :)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Has anyone else noticed a fair number of tourists with Liberated Borg implants around? Is a trip to Risa part of Starfleet's rehab program for liberated drones now?

    "Risa. Its a magical place."
    Are you sure they're tourists? I've seen a lot of players like that.

    Then again Risa has all manner of bizarre aliens visiting so who knows?
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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    skk1701j wrote: »
    Doing Bird Breeding you need about 60 runs a 50 makes 3k. Last year it was enough for superior floater and the cloth. But this year, the new items outnumber the amount a normal player can farm. Hopefully they make some doff missions. Helped in the winter event a lot.

    God yes, Doff missions, I didn't even look. That would be great. Even if they were just sending your crew on leave or checking the Environmental and Tectonic controls.
    Has anyone else noticed a fair number of tourists with Liberated Borg implants around? Is a trip to Risa part of Starfleet's rehab program for liberated drones now?

    "Risa. Its a magical place."

    well being assimilated does involve being strapped to a table with a machine poking around your brain.

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  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    qjunior wrote: »
    Usually the truth is somewhere in-between. Cryptic isn't a saintly entity of perpetual goodness and perfection...and neither are the players. :)
    I can see wisdom in that statement. Within a certain amount of hindsight, the players and developers could be feeding the fire. Instead of approaching the issue with clear heads, both sides could be pulling in opposite directions.

    Cryptic has a right to manipulate "Star Trek: Online", for it is ultimately their piece of artwork.

    On the flip side of the coin, consumers have a right to walk away. If "Star Trek: Online" is not speaking to a consumer on some level, the individual does have the freedom to find another game.

    *shrugs*

    What I know is that, I want my money to go further. When I compare how much time, effort, and money I put into STO, I am just not seeing a breakthrough on the other end. I am paying into a machine that it not paying out. What I am seeing is Cryptic saying, "Give me more. Give me more. Give me more." I just do not see them rewarding me efficiently enough.

    I know there is a communication breakdown. I can also agree that there is too much mocking, ranting, and anger.

    Cryptic has to somehow take responsibility, for they are the ones who are providing the service.

    Cryptic is too busy making consumers work (grind) for their content, and they forgot that they have to also earn their share. If Cryptic wants to keep paying customers around, I think its time for them to start working (grinding) for their reward.

    "Star Trek" will live beyond the likes of "Star Trek: Online".

    Again, I can walkaway without doing a double-take.

    I have nothing to lose.
  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    venkou wrote: »
    I can see wisdom in that statement. Within a certain amount of hindsight, the players and developers could be feeding the fire. Instead of approaching the issue with clear heads, both sides could be pulling in opposite directions.

    Cryptic has a right to manipulate "Star Trek: Online", for it is ultimately their piece of artwork.

    On the flip side of the coin, consumers have a right to walk away. If "Star Trek: Online" is not speaking to a consumer on some level, the individual does have the freedom to find another game.

    *shrugs*

    What I know is that, I want my money to go further. When I compare how much time, effort, and money I put into STO, I am just not seeing a breakthrough on the other end. I am paying into a machine that it not paying out. What I am seeing is Cryptic saying, "Give me more. Give me more. Give me more." I just do not see them rewarding me efficiently enough.

    I know there is a communication breakdown. I can also agree that there is too much mocking, ranting, and anger.

    Cryptic has to somehow take responsibility, for they are the ones who are providing the service.

    Cryptic is too busy making consumers work (grind) for their content, and they forgot that they have to also earn their share. If Cryptic wants to keep paying customers around, I think its time for them to start working (grinding) for their reward.

    "Star Trek" will live beyond the likes of "Star Trek: Online".

    Again, I can walkaway without doing a double-take.

    I have nothing to lose.

    ...seriously, man, if you keep talking about how you want to walk away, then, y'know... why don't you? Seriously, at this point you're just trolling and it's getting very annoying.
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    SO, i swear i saw someone using a Risa swimsuit (bikini + top) in Q'nos.

    I thought the event outfits were only wereable in Risa..

    Whats the deal?
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ragnar0x wrote: »
    This event is badly done for newcommers and for ppl who never did this event.

    Trust me, same happened with the winter event. So many new people were lost... literally. Hell, me included. It cost me about a day and a half to know where to go, what missions to get and what resources to use to buy some things. It was terrible. Not to mention, of course , all the bugs that appeared the first minute the event came live. It seems that the story repeats again. But i cant tell since i still didnt visit Risa since the event started.. :eek:
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    venkou wrote: »
    Cryptic is too busy making consumers work (grind) for their content, and they forgot that they have to also earn their share. If Cryptic wants to keep paying customers around, I think its time for them to start working for their reward.

    I'm curious about this particular aspect of what you said. I believe you're using "content" in this regard with regard to items...rather than content as adventures/missions/episodes. Is that correct? The basic we have to do something 9001 times to get something nature of the game?

    I'm not sure how that ties into paying customers though. Would that be subscribing customers or customers that bought a LTS? Or customers that spend money from time to time on ZEN? A customer that buys ZEN from time to time is not quite the same as a subscribing customer. The ZEN buying customer is buying the ZEN - which they in turn use to buy something else. It's more of a direct purchase. The subscribing customer is paying for certain benefits.

    I could see where the subscribing customer might look at some of the "grinds" and question why they are subscribing. It might force them to reevaluate their subscription.

    The person that bought ZEN on the other hand - well - they got whatever they bought the ZEN for in the first place. It's a simpler and direct transaction. As long as Cryptic continues to offer things people want to buy, then folks will continue to buy them.

    Basically, by working to create things people want to buy - folks in turn buying those items - it's basically a case of them doing what you're saying they need to do. They're already doing that.

    Now, something else that you had mentioned in another post was about the grinding of favors, the small reward from the sandcastles, and the inability to wear the swimsuits anywhere but on Risa...basically that you did not feel the effort was worth the reward. Which ties into that complaint about Taco (which I'm still curious what the actual quote was and if it was taken out of context - was it a specific reply that included what you said - was it even a reply to what you thought it was...given how fast the zone chat was scrolling while he was there, etc, etc, etc)...

    ...but it basically seems that you're upset that:

    It's going to take some time and effort to get the swimwear...and...that you can't wear it anywhere but on Risa.

    And you're posting in the ship thread - because there's the disappointment that there was no interior where the swimsuits could be worn...tying into the upset over not being able to wear the swimsuits anywhere but on Risa and tying into being upset over the effort required to get the swimsuits in the first place.

    Which um...leaves me wondering what that has to do with the least in somebody being a paying customer (whether a ZEN consumer or a subscriber)...outside of it being a thinly veiled threat of not giving Cryptic any more money because you can't wear a swimsuit wherever you want....

    ...is, uh, that the crux of the issue?

    I mean, it's a legitimate issue - it's not really our place to judge what consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their ship interiors as long as it's legal. I'm kind of surprised that Cryptic didn't provide that option - they would have likely gotten more folks interested in running the event, logging in, spending time - and - perhaps spending more money. It comes off as a blooper of sorts. I think they underestimated the value that the Risian Luxury Cruiser would have had in having that Risa-like interior for folks. Sure, it would have had absolutely zero value to me - not my thing in the least - but from an objective point of view, can see where it would have potentially generated revenue for them in the long run by keeping certain players out there happy. It would have been an investment.

    Did they perhaps underestimate the number of folks that would be trying to build sandcastles? From the plethora of complaints, that would appear to be the case. They took into account that the sandcastles would be quick turnarounds in how they decided upon the rewards - but they overlooked the real estate angle and the participation, eh?

    In the end though, is it something that can be reasonably completed before the event ends? Does it just come down to impatience then? Cause there tends to be a lot of impatience...folks need stuff yesterday...rather than accepting that it's going to get done when it gets done, but it's going to get done all the same.

    Which is where the grind thing usually comes into play, eh? But then again, if one were to remove the grinds - what would there be to do? That's where I'd have actually expected one to go after Cryptic. Tied into the paying customer thing and content, even going so far as to have them designing adventure packs that they sold - etc, etc, etc. But that's not where you were going with what you said...it's one way that what you said could have been taken...but that's not what it was about, eh?

    It's disappointment and frustration over how Cryptic has handled the swimsuits...what it takes to get them...and they're limited use - and - how that leaves you feeling like you should take your money elsewhere, right?
  • beerxhyperbeerxhyper Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tpalelena wrote: »
    The bikini is not working for female romulans.

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    hey i see my trill talking in zone chat akuhashuzen and ur jokeing dang and i almost have the favors for that swimwear to on my romulan i dread to see if the caitians are broken to lol >_<


  • beerxhyperbeerxhyper Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I hope I die soon, and I want you to do the eulogy.


    So anyway: i bought 10Pearl Packs with Lobi Crystals and was rewarded with 48 Pearls. IF one Pearl Pack has 10-20 Pearls, how could this happen? I have wasted my Lobis and didn't even get half the minimum Pearls I should have received?
    Thanks :mad:

    And no, I can't do any activities because the graphic changes since S9 bring my pc to his knees and I lag terrible.

    i thought last years pearl packs was 2-6ish and the winter events one was 10-20 same with the 4th anniversery? cause if not i just got royally skrewed from my 58 pearl packs and i dang want a refund.


  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    JESUS! :eek:
    Something had to be said, I am just wondering it was VD...

    What can I say, I was in a pool swimming a mile to prepare for my triathlon this summer.

    I couldn't exactly leap onto my computer...:rolleyes:
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    What can I say, I was in a pool swimming a mile to prepare for my triathlon this summer.

    I couldn't exactly leap onto my computer...:rolleyes:

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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    beerxhyper wrote: »
    i thought last years pearl packs was 2-6ish and the winter events one was 10-20 same with the 4th anniversery? cause if not i just got royally skrewed from my 58 pearl packs and i dang want a refund.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=17330371&postcount=8
  • buddha1369buddha1369 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Did they add glow effects to the Floaters? I don't remember them creating a glow before.

    I was just doing the Horga'hn Hunt at night and I noticed a blue light against my character when I accelerated. It created a nice glow against her back and this dark shading under the curve of her....then I ran into the side of a cliff.

    Thats a dirty trick devs. Just dirty.
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