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Season 9 Dev Blog #8: Undine Assault

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    robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xablis wrote: »
    Ummm, have you played a ground mission vs. Gorn npcs? They throw rocks at you there too, apparently they think this strategy works... :D

    Hmm nothing has changed as didnt the Gorn do this against Kirk who eventually hit it with a prehistoric version of a bazooka. Gorns must not change there tactics
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    robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    Nope. It plays totally different. It's more DOTA in space then it is a copy of the Mirror Event.

    Still think it's a poor event and can see me doing other missions to get the Undine marks
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Everbody read that again and let it sink in for a moment.

    The Gorn defense plan is... to throw rocks at it.

    Hope it works better on the Undine then it did on Batman.
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    vhiranikosvhiranikos Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    robeasom wrote: »
    Still think it's a poor event and can see me doing other missions to get the Undine marks


    lol... the reward payout for this mission is miniscule. You WILL have to do other missions for marks.
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    spookpwaspookpwa Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ferengi will accept good pressed latinum to use enhanced defensive systems and summon Marauders and Mercenaries.

    I would say good riddance to Feranginar if they demand latinum to help defend their own world. :P
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    spookpwaspookpwa Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    If this is same overwhelming horde type of mission that Mirror Universe invasion is now I for one will not be doing this more then once.

    You can then stuff this mission and the Undini reputation where the sun does not shine (and I will not even miss it since I can not use all my reputations anyway with revamp of reputation system :rolleyes: )
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    spookpwaspookpwa Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    Nope. It plays totally different. It's more DOTA in space then it is a copy of the Mirror Event.
    Don't you worry, once someone complain it is easy they will make it a copy of Mirror Event. :P
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    simeion1simeion1 Member Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    But.. my vacation spot!

    You know Ferengi women can were clothes now, no more cheap thrill there. You know what they say you seen one set of lobes you have seen them all.
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    spookpwaspookpwa Member Posts: 316 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    Also, on a side note, wasn't the Planet Killer a Babylon 5 thing?

    OMG! :eek:

    You are right we are not being attacked by the Undini, we are being attacked by the Shadows that want to cause chaos by making us attack the Undini and there by start a war.

    Darn those Shadows are sneaky. :P
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    xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    spookpwa wrote: »
    OMG! :eek:

    You are right we are not being attacked by the Undini, we are being attacked by the Shadows that want to cause chaos by making us attack the Undini and there by start a war.

    Darn those Shadows are sneaky. :P

    Vorlons. The Vorlons are the ones with the Planet Killers. :rolleyes:
    The Shadows are manipulating the Borg.
    And all are manipulated by the Iconians... which are servants of our dreaded master, Cthulhu.

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    jrq2jrq2 Member Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Am I the only one to whom that sounds like Mirror event with undine ships?

    Don’t you mean Fleet Alert that was re-skinned into Mirror Invasion and now it’s re-re-skinned into the New Undine Assault.

    Look like Cryptic has lost its creative mojo, this is not good for a Game developer company
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,401 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    And all are manipulated by the Iconians... which are servants of our dreaded master, Cthulhu.
    Oh come on, that'd be a lame twist worth of M. Night Shamalyan... or Santa Christ.
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    lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Actually, if the rocks are launched from the surface of the planet, orbital mechanics would make the rocks that miss their targets fall back and hit the ground.

    So, Rocks Fall, Everybody Dies? :D

    But seriously, if they were launched fast enough that they exited the atmosphere at above planetary escape velocity, they would not be falling back to the planet.
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    pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    Thank you for correcting the part of the Gamma Quadrant being included, Morrigan. :cool:
    Swag.:cool:
    I too would like answers to two questions that were posted previously.

    Are Ferenginar and Gorn being added to the map as actual locations?

    By Andor, do you mean Andoria?
    I'm not sure if the Ferenginar and Gorn are being added to the map.

    Andor and Andoria are synonymous. :)
    Cool....But does this mean we will have armed Ferengi NPC ships to assist us in battle? And not just the federation standard ships? Afteral, in Ferenginar the Ferengi would have some ships of their own...
    I believe you do have armed ships. I can't recall if they're *Fed* and *KDF* ships or race specific. I'll check when I get into work today.
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    pwlaughingtrendypwlaughingtrendy Member Posts: 2,966 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So, Rocks Fall, Everybody Dies? :D

    But seriously, if they were launched fast enough that they exited the atmosphere at above planetary escape velocity, they would not be falling back to the planet.
    I've seen Armageddon. I know what's up. :P
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    admiraltrappittadmiraltrappitt Member Posts: 444 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    They are armed D'Kora's. For Gpl you can upgrade them, buy more, or hire Nausiccan mercinaries.
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    edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    Vorlons. The Vorlons are the ones with the Planet Killers. :rolleyes:
    The Shadows are manipulating the Borg.
    And all are manipulated by the Iconians... which are servants of our dreaded master, Cthulhu.

    Eldritch Lockbox will come. You read it here first.

    You wrong. All species in the galaxy are being manipulated by the First Ones from babylon 5.. maybe you forgot em lol. Iconians are nothing compared with em lol. They are supossed the most advanced beings on the entire universe... of course, without the inclusion of the Q Continuum..
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    luddimusluddimus Member Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Only 6 rifts to close? Two words: Quantum Absorption
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    turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Actually, according to Hakeev's computer on Nopada ('Cloaked Intentions'/'Freedom' episode "Colisseum"), the Iconians intend (and, by attacking the Undine and causing them to attack 'normal' space, even are already) to set races against each other to weaken them for the Iconians' return.

    Which is kind of what the Shadows did, if you think about it.

    And the Dyson Joint Command was formed to investigate the Solanae Sphere (Z'ha'dum) and ends up being the front like of defense against servant races like the Solanae and Elachi, kind of like the Army of Light/Interstellar Alliance. Except they're also fighting the Voth who are being manipulated by the Undine like the Shadows and Drahk manipulated the Centauri (We even have a Vir-esque 'This is WRONG, Londo!' figure in Nelan Exil), until they turn the Voth Zone into a blasted wasteland.


    Yeah, I'm half-expecting Commander Kaol to be either transferred to an Ambassadorship to Vulcan and replaced at DJC Solanae or, since we appearantly now have a working gateway to the Jenolan Sphere, given a counterpart there - Commander S'haridan.
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    pwecangetlostpwecangetlost Member Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited April 2014

    Ferengi will accept good pressed latinum to use enhanced defensive systems and summon Marauders and Mercenaries.


    We need to bribe the Ferengi to protect their own capital? Let's just let the Undine destroy it.

    Also, why do they need these planet killers when 9 cruisers take out a planet?

    And why do they suddenly need the sphere when they can open rifts virtually anywhere. With several locations having fluidic space spilling out anyway. While its implied the Delta quadrant has an area particularly successful for fluidic space access, they don't seem to have any issue elsewhere.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    But, ya gotta pay for it. And knowing our luck, it'll probably be just shuttles, the cheap so-and-sos.

    Lol, who am I to pay for Ferenginar to defend itself? The other three allied worlds will be fine, but Ferenginar... meh, go to whatever you consider hell. Probably earth :D
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    tarsudotarsudo Member Posts: 343 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    We need to bribe the Ferengi to protect their own capital? Let's just let the Undine destroy it.

    Also, why do they need these planet killers when 9 cruisers take out a planet?

    And why do they suddenly need the sphere when they can open rifts virtually anywhere. With several locations having fluidic space spilling out anyway. While its implied the Delta quadrant has an area particularly successful for fluidic space access, they don't seem to have any issue elsewhere.

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    futilepurposefutilepurpose Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Just in time.

    I read "close the rifts" and im getting so :mad:
    Especially after this mirror event. I need more time to come down :cool:
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    betaborgbetaborg Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So basically the mirror universe event in a species 8472 skin? Really!? :eek:
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    chrishellmax2363chrishellmax2363 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Explain? i have it on my kdf, just randomly press it most of the times.
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    xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    betaborg wrote: »
    So basically the mirror universe event in a species 8472 skin? Really!? :eek:

    No.

    But it's the blog's fault that it sounds like a reskinned Mirror Event. There is not enough info in it.
    Undine Assault is more like Dota in space then the Mirror Event! I played it on Tribble. It's kinda fun, but nobody will play it because the rewards are ludicrous. Like Storming the Spire.

    No idea who balances out the rewards. I thought Cryptic loves the metrics? Their metrics have to give them data on queued events nobody plays. And I know. It takes ages sometime to get a team for Storming the Spire together. I liked the mission, and I like Undine Assault, but the game is not only discouraging me from playing them... it makes it almost impossible because I don't get the people to play those missions with me.

    And don't get me started with stuff like the Salt Vampire attack... I really liked that one, but it's absolutely impossible to play it. Can't even queue and get AFK, because when finaly some people got in, you will miss the timeframe to accept it...
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    xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    You wrong. All species in the galaxy are being manipulated by the First Ones from babylon 5.. maybe you forgot em lol. Iconians are nothing compared with em lol. They are supossed the most advanced beings on the entire universe... of course, without the inclusion of the Q Continuum..

    First Ones are cool (love Vorlons and Shadows), but they were only active in one Galaxy. After they advanced beyond that point, they left for the void between galaxies.
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    psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    Undine Assault is more like Dota in space then the Mirror Event!

    What's "Dota"?
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    xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    What's "Dota"?

    I am the wrong one to answer that question, because I have little to do with those tower defense games.
    Nonetheless:

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients

    Well, Undine Assault has three lanes on which rifts are spawning. When the three lanes reach the Planet Killer, we can blast it.
    It's simplified, and adapted to STO mechanics, but it never reminded me at the Mirror Event. As said... it's more like Dota...
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    edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    First Ones are cool (love Vorlons and Shadows), but they were only active in one Galaxy. After they advanced beyond that point, they left for the void between galaxies.

    Nah. The "ships" you see in the babylon 5 show about these "first ones" (im not talking about the shadows or the vorlons) are just the projections they use to represent emselves. But the first ones actually never appeared in the show, not as a race emselves. We only saw their ship projections or watever you want to call those great and weird space ships that we all saw in the show. I mean, the first ones were so great that they didnt even bother to travel emselves to there, they just sent projections of their kind to aid in the war. The Shadows are post-firs ones, same as the Vorlons. WE could say shadows and the vorlons are not the first ones. They are the second-ones. lol.

    The first ones just got tired after the first great war and they just avoided every kind fo contact with other species. They even consider the Shadows and vorlons really "young" species..
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