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[RUMOR] Why Level #60 is a BAD Idea
flash525
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I know it's only rumour and speculation at the moment, but it's been rumoured for some time now, and with the latest (being that there are new, higher ranked gear in the game files) it would seem that this level cap raise is upon us, be that as early as Season #9, or Season #10.
Why do we even need a Cap Raise? Everything at end game content has been built around a level #50 character; all the elite missions, all the fleet gear, and the entire reputation system. Now you want to change that? Why? I'm confused what purpose can be served by requiring every character to advance another #10 levels.
In my opinion, we should all be Captains or Commanders (depending on faction).
There are no doubt a lot of players/characters out there who have worked their TRIBBLE off, and put a lot of their cash into the game to maximize their ships with Mk XII Fleet/Reputation Gear. If new gear is to be added for level #60, you're going to have annoyed the hell out of a lot of people.
If the fear is that people are ranking up quicker than you'd like, or that players are acquiring all the goodies too quick, quite simply double the exp needed per rank, double the price of all gear, and reduce the mark reward. I'd much rather this than another #10 levels which wont actually serve a purpose.
What can you do with another ten levels? Add more missions (can do that anyway). Add another Reputation System (can do that anyway). Add more ships (can do that anyway). Can add better equipment (can do that anyway). Add harder missions (can do that anyway).
Nothing that you can/will do requires another ten levels in order to achieve your goals. Thus, I ask the very simple question; what is the overall point of another ten levels? What reason does it serve?
Why do we even need a Cap Raise? Everything at end game content has been built around a level #50 character; all the elite missions, all the fleet gear, and the entire reputation system. Now you want to change that? Why? I'm confused what purpose can be served by requiring every character to advance another #10 levels.
In my opinion, we should all be Captains or Commanders (depending on faction).
There are no doubt a lot of players/characters out there who have worked their TRIBBLE off, and put a lot of their cash into the game to maximize their ships with Mk XII Fleet/Reputation Gear. If new gear is to be added for level #60, you're going to have annoyed the hell out of a lot of people.
If the fear is that people are ranking up quicker than you'd like, or that players are acquiring all the goodies too quick, quite simply double the exp needed per rank, double the price of all gear, and reduce the mark reward. I'd much rather this than another #10 levels which wont actually serve a purpose.
What can you do with another ten levels? Add more missions (can do that anyway). Add another Reputation System (can do that anyway). Add more ships (can do that anyway). Can add better equipment (can do that anyway). Add harder missions (can do that anyway).
Nothing that you can/will do requires another ten levels in order to achieve your goals. Thus, I ask the very simple question; what is the overall point of another ten levels? What reason does it serve?
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I don't know about any of you but any casual game I play I might go on about once a week maybe twice if I'm feeling bored. So 10 more levels based on that kind of logging in might take a while.
A Level Cap increase does not mean we need to get T6 ships and MK XIII gear, though. The increase could mean new Captain Talents, new Captain Class Abilities, as well as different types of MK XII gear - for more variety rather then everyone using some semblance of just Omega Rep gear, Rom Rep weapons, etc. It also means the potential for new game systems, such as Fleet Control - where you can command your Boffs in other ships to make an armada.
I'm probably similar to you; I'm a casual gamer. I usually pop on once a day to cycle through Doff Missions, and probably once or twice a week I'll stick around and run some STF's with the fleet, but I'm by no means a hardcore gamer.
To think, I've been considering leveling up two new characters too. No way in hell I'll be doing that if I'm suppose to be buying Mk 14 gear for them (eventually) too.
All of these changes can be done without a level increase.
Whilst I remain uncertain about T6 ships, haven't some icons for Mk XIII gear already been found in the game files?
They won't look to come out of the gates with MK XIII gear, but I would not be surprised if they decide to go down that road in the future once they've exhausted fleet holdings and fleet gear and there are no new toys to grind for.
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Spend a lot of time with this game and equipping my Toons to compete in PvP.
A Level Cap Increase is nothing else than a Reboot and the need to Grind it all again. Won't participate this path. If this comes it will probably end up that i will split up with this game.
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ya sorry but level cap going up was bound to happen again at some point other than eve not played a mmo where the cap did not go up at some point wow first to come to mind lotro
where was these its a bad idea when the cap went up from 40 to 50??????????
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Now new captain abilites would be nice too, what would you recon they'd put in for those?
In Skyrim there's an entire civil war system that never made it into the game just chilling out in the game files. One industrious modder took it upon himself to finish it up and release it. He described it as "It was like one day the devs just stopped coding where they were, got up and went out for a pizza and never returned." Even now this incomplete system is still in the game code. Unless of course you pick up that dude's mod and have at it.
What I'm trying to say is, just because something is found in the game files doesn't mean that it's something that's definitely on it's way. It could be an experiment that the devs were messing around with and then abandoned it. Or maybe it's something they started on but decided to put it on hold for a later time.
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There is no content in the game that cannot be turned into pate at 50 now. Elite STFs are being completed by teams in mere seconds, and are being solo'd with the optional.
The right thing to do is to keep adding content and expand the game horizontally instead of vertical grind that would make all of the existing content even more obsolete.
Furthermore, if any of the gear I bought or grinded for is ever made obsolete, I will walk away instead of buying replacements.
While I stated you can have a Level Cap increase without increasing gear levels, I am now thinking gear level increased might be beneficial to the forum.
DCUO has not risen in levels at all, they are sill at level 30, and they have specifically stated, they will NEVER raise the level cap thanks to the way their skill trees are set up.
GW2 also has not raised its level cap as far as i know, and same with Tera. I think even **** has not raised its level cap in quite a while.
Then you consider your character complete, and there's no point in progressing further? So you've won the game?
MMOs periodically reset, and it's mostly due to clutter. The developers create a new system or gear set, and it accomplishes a set thing, then six months to a year down the line they introduce another thing that synergizes unintentionally with that first thing, and then they release a third thing, and then people realise that they can combine this with that to get a super powerful triad combination...
that's not to say this is a bad thing, it does add up to a really interesting gameplay, but at some point the developers have to stop and say 'enough, we can't keep adding new things to this, we have to start taking things out of circulation, or the power levels will explode past the point which we can accomodate in the difficulty settings' this is why we have gear resets.
I get why you don't want things to change, but that's death for a game like this. They have to keep moving forward, and sometimes that means leaving the past behind.
And since it doesnt matter what we think, if cryptic decided to increase the cap to 60, there is nothing we can do, so, whats the point?. It doesnt matter what reasons will provide here , they will do watever they want lol.
At the moment you can, but you don't need to get new equip, after you have finished your first build or Ground Combo. So there is still a use.
A Level Cap Increase as such is a GRIND-REBOOT, where you have to do all the senseless stuff again. And all time spent so far will become obsolete. No matter what you explain above, it will force out a lot of regular players out of the game.
Even now with all those Reputation Events every 2nd month you don't have enough time to just spend time in PvP or the Foundry for a couple of weeks in a row.
You are not a special snowflake who knows what is absolutely right or wrong for everyone playing the game. You are just one grain of sand on the beach, no more important then any other grain of sand.
You do not want a Level Cap increase and I do. Which grain of sand should Cryptic listen to?
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Forgive me, but it sounds to me like you're no longer having fun playing the game. So how would maintaining the status quo make things better for you? By making it unnecessary for you to play? Why not just not play?
If everything they do will be for the worst, why do you still play? Why do you continue to play a game that apparently continues to become "worse" according to you? If you think the game is going to get worse and less fun, why are you even still playing?
Well, that sadly never stopped Cryptic before (Vulnerability Locators anyone?).
New ranks will hopefully mean we finally get to fill up our skill tree (like you can in EvE Online), Although, quite honestly, where would be the fun in that!?
Do you understand this game as solely all about Grinding?
Grinding for is a means to the end. I would like to just spend time with some PvP (and hopefully and PvP Update) for a while and not been "forced" to grind every few weeks again and again and again.
This proves my point. Good luck xD.