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mattjohnsonva
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Hey guys, I'm loving what you have done with the Galaxy Dreadnought, the wide beam lance is awesome, however there are still problems that are putting off a lot of players.
Main Lance
Extremely tiny arc that makes hitting a target a game of chance. Even with subspace jump+tractor it doesn't always hit and if just chasing a moving target I estimate the chance of a hit at about 1%. When you couple that to it's very long recharge time it more or less totally negates the main lance in any type of attack other than a decloak alpha.
Recharge Time
3 minutes, really? Come on guys, do you want us to use this or not? I mean what the hell is the point in giving us a powerful weapon that we can fire once in a typical Infected Space, perhaps twice?
Recharge should be no more than 1 minute.
POWER
I am happy with the power of the wide beam, however the double shot main lance is pretty lack lustre. I'd like to see an increase in damage output of around 30%, coupled with the accuracy improvements that should allow better crits.
So come on guys, work your magic on the lance, you have a lot of people using these ships now, unless you want to see them all go back to space dock it needs a little more Dev Love.
Thanks
Matt
Main Lance
Extremely tiny arc that makes hitting a target a game of chance. Even with subspace jump+tractor it doesn't always hit and if just chasing a moving target I estimate the chance of a hit at about 1%. When you couple that to it's very long recharge time it more or less totally negates the main lance in any type of attack other than a decloak alpha.
Recharge Time
3 minutes, really? Come on guys, do you want us to use this or not? I mean what the hell is the point in giving us a powerful weapon that we can fire once in a typical Infected Space, perhaps twice?
Recharge should be no more than 1 minute.
POWER
I am happy with the power of the wide beam, however the double shot main lance is pretty lack lustre. I'd like to see an increase in damage output of around 30%, coupled with the accuracy improvements that should allow better crits.
So come on guys, work your magic on the lance, you have a lot of people using these ships now, unless you want to see them all go back to space dock it needs a little more Dev Love.
Thanks
Matt
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The Fleet X is an amazing ship, and it's my most powerful ship of all right now, but there's just this one minor issue. I don't wanna be teased by Guramba pilots for you guys forcing me and my ship to have less built-in Guramba than them.
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My name is Rage, and I too support a revised Galaxy family.
Thalaron Pulse from the player flown Scimitar is s**t IMO. It hits NOWHERE near as high as the Wave Cannon Barrage from the Monbosh/S'Golth Escort. I run all the above said ships and it's not quite uncommon as a Tac player with cannon barrage to hit 250k+ to a single target, or up to 350k spread across up to 5 targets in the arc (That's up to 70-75k dmg per target).
Only the NPC Scimitar's have the Thararon you speak of. I bought the Scimi 3 pack, used Thalaron a few times, laughed and took consoles off. Low overall damage, long charge up, too easy to miss. Sound alot like the Gal-X Lance? and yes, I know how to pilot, build and use my ships to their fullest potential. I would hope so, As I have pretty much every ship in the game and I thoroughly test each one.
I agree with this.
The players have been telling Cryptic for years that the Phaser lance is pure junk and the best that they could give us was the wider angle Sawed off version of it
The main lance needs to have it chance to hit increased by 90% and its base damage boosted by 50% and its cool down should be closer to 2 minutes.
I've never used the Grumba but the X's Phaser Lance cool down should match the Grumba's special attack cool down.
The way the Lace is now its a gimmick at best and it was the main reason the ship was re- classed a Dreadnought.
If the Lance is going to remain the junk that it is I say give the X the Cruiser Shield Command to compensate it for its loss.
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It isn't magic, it is recycling.
We moved.
MODERATORS: Thread moves and merges are in order.
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If you support the "fleet ship gold ammo monetizing gimmick" you are supporting the mentality that made the game fail its way into the lottery-supported pay-to-win business model it is now.
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It is shorter, but setting the Javelin up (Siege Mode + Charge up) almost makes the ship come to a halt. Not exactly ideal esp. in today's game where near stationary targets = instadeath, most esp. in PVP.
But yes, the Phaser Lance needs an accuracy boost and I'd support 2 ways going around it.
Make it a Phaser version of the Javelin.
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Keep current cooldown timer, increase accuracy & dmg of the Phaser Lance. Make it worthwhile of the long cooldown.
I'm just dismayed that in Cryptic's feeble attempt to "fix" the Gal-X that they didn't really fix one of the main issues of the ship to begin with... the Phaser Lance.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=590121
We have at least 3 other recent threads between this section (fed shipyards) and builds/powers/game-mechanics:
The first and second threads are still on these Federation Shipyards front page. The third is a copy of the first posted the builds/powers/game-mechanics section. #1/#3 have received unanimous support in favor of "putting a real weapon item on the dreadnought". There is even a request to do the same for the Bortas.
TL;DR of the real-weapon-prosal (#1/#3)?
Recycle the Andorian Escort's Kumari Phaser Wing Cannons item and modify it by replacing the animation with a beam and adjusting the powers/consoles/etc flagged on it.
And as stated above, there is even support for putting a real weapon onto the Bortas for its autocannon.
It works fairly well logically and leverages the synergy of cannon-item/cannon-console on the Andorian Escort onto the Dreadnought as a beam/beam-toggle and the Bortas as an autocannon/autocannon-console.
The other alternative is to recycle the Guramba's lance mechanics and that would really just be a rehash of what we have now.
MODERATORS: we have 4 threads now on this topic between at least 2 sections.
edit, found a fourth thread, we have at least 5 now between 2 sections.
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Given how many people support something meaningful, yes. And given how attractive a "real gun" would make the ship?
How many people who start RPing just to RP that one scene from AGT?
Answer? "probably enough to be scary."
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And it's that on a 3 minute cooldown?
SHHHHH don't tell the Klingons, but the shotgun blast doesn't seem to miss...or at least has way better accuracy. But keep that a secret...Loose lips nerf ships.
Another thing too is the drive section only has 100 crew, which means, in this messed up crew system, you get way better innate hull regen.
yeah you're right, and I think 3 mins is fine. I think the real issue is the guramba only has a 1 min cd on a similar ability.
I would be for adding in the cloaking device to make a 3pc set to lower the cd of the lance. maybe knock off 30 secs? idk.
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My name is Rage, and I too support a revised Galaxy family.
i was actually unaware about the almost slowing to a halt on the javelin
yes but the vesta hits and does more damage (even though it is damage over time instead of 2 hits)
actually the vesta's deflector phaser is more like the AGT phaser cannon then the actual phaser lance is
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U