I run it on my Jem'Hadar ships because Polaron beams are purple in STO and they match up nicely. Otherwise, I don't think it looks very canon on, say, a Federation ship, but neither does the Gravimetric and no one seems to have an issue with that.
I run it on my Jem'Hadar ships because Polaron beams are purple in STO and they match up nicely. Otherwise, I don't think it looks very canon on, say, a Federation ship, but neither does the Gravimetric and no one seems to have an issue with that.
Why? gravimetric looks pretty much like a more orange photon, and the photons in voyager also looked orangeish.
Anyway I'd probably be interested in bringing my science officer who will be flying a Defiant with either cannons or beam banks+turrets, whichever isn't a total pain to do. Also, quantum torpedoes most likely.
Yup, a sci in an escort. lemme get her to 50 first should only take a few days.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
I just don't think it looks anything like a normal Photon, visually the Gravimetric is a red Quantum. Others disagree, and I have a hard time passing it up for how good it is.
Is it ok if I use beam banks on my defiant? I seem to have an awful time with the pulse phasers.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Yeah I like to commit myself as much as possible to a canon build but a lot of my builds are skirt the edge. Like, my Fed sci is in a T6 Intrepid which is largely a torpedo boat. But I have an omni-arc phaser in the back, so it looks like the typical Voyager space battle with phaser beams and torpedoes flying. But one of the torps is a PEP which I think brings a lot to the table for that character but it's not strictly speaking a canon torpedo launcher (I'm working on getting the gravimetric and neutronic launchers, which I assume are a-ok because the former was literally in an episode of Voyager and neutronic is supposed to be a special type of quantum torpedo). I also have a Reman in a Faeht that's a straight up torpedo boat, there aren't any energy weapons at all. Would that be admissable?
Or what about my tac in a Vesta with all aux-cannons up front but a torpedo and omni phaser in the back? What about my klingon tac in a Mogh which just has beams but I have the torpedo console so that does that kinda sorta count? Or my Rom who's in a Mogai that's all cannons. Strictly speaking we never see the Valdore fire torpedoes in Nemesis (that said, I am intending on getting the rom hyper plasma for that character to complete the set) :V
And sometimes i look at canon and go '...Really?' Like with the B'rel. Forward torpedo launcher and wing tip disruptor cannons? Done. But aft torpedo launcher? C'mon 'Way of the Warrior' you can't just throw a green blob out the back and call that an aft torpedo launcher. There's no launcher on the model! The forward launcher is big and obvious, so are the wingtip cannons.
Everything else though tends to be uniformly canon. So my bridge officers tend to be faction-specific without exception.
First test of the Exeter in an STB run:
SCM - Infected [LR] (S) - DMG Out: 5,652,411 DPS: 14,302.66 (15.8% of Team) - Setek@Tyrinius
That was with lots of heals I ended up not needing, thanks to everyone else grabbing aggro. And I had the iconian set slotted instead of AMACO (which would have been much better, as it's mostly torpedoes). Lots of room for optimization. But it's baaaack!
It was great to see you in the Exeter again... moreover... great seeing how happy you were in the Exeter.
That run felt good... to try and self nerf myself I think that was the run I went in on my MVAE w/1 BA & 1 torp fore & aft w/2 tac consoles BUT still had all the dps boosting consoles w/full weapons power & still managed around 18K? So just need to take off the uni consoles for maybe my Neut's and definately lower my weapons power and I should be able to hit 10k np... HAHA.. most trying to boost dps and here I am lowering my dps haha... STB day 1 all over again
Something that Kin said kind of got me thinking tho... it was something along the lines of, and please correct me if I'm wrong Kin, in a particular ISA run it was really rough and I got the impression that it wasn't as fun. I think we still finished under 10mins but Kin was taking the full brunt of the aggro on Tharon in the MVAE? So being in an escort, naturally, was squishy. I could remember when the 1st full STB team got together... HAHA.. deaths all around but it was fun actually trying not to die and really working as a team. I guess since DR those runs have been still there but with a mix of dps. I don't ever want a run be NOT fun for anyone in team but hopefully all will be aware of the type of run it will be and who is bringing what.
Over the past couple of weeks I have been trying to push my dps up to prepare for a FULL HSE STB run and I found I have 3 options to bring in.. the MVAE, Akira & Gal X. Depending on the team composition I have some good choices to bring in. Also in running with the dps channels I have learned A TON of stuff so I'd like to say a BIG THANK you for the wisdom that was passed on to me which the biggest thing I've learned was how much dps is actually needed in HSE and I think for STB what will be the KEY element is the team composition and getting the healing cycle down pat... I believe we are really close to beating HSE but just need the time to get a group together.
I think with having a general idea of where my toons are in respect to their dps.. I will be scaling back UNLESS we are doing missions that require a lil more umph or ones that have timers. I just have to figure out which gear to take off without having to buy a whole new set of gear to try and take that problem away of inv.
Anyhoot.... TC and see you in game when we see you! 07
I like this, but have to ask are neutronic torpedoes ok? Considering theyre basically advanced quantums. All my non escort ships use both fore and aft torpedoes, and all my ships have at least one torpedo tube, and all but one (which I rarely use) use faction appropriate weapons.
I run it on my Jem'Hadar ships because Polaron beams are purple in STO and they match up nicely. Otherwise, I don't think it looks very canon on, say, a Federation ship, but neither does the Gravimetric and no one seems to have an issue with that.
As Dragon mentioned... they do match his purple theme that he's going for but they don't look, IMO, very good coming from a Fed ship. They are ok but we try for more screen accuracy as much as possible.... it's the visual I can't get over which I was telling Dragon/Kin the other night.. it could be the best torp in game but I just don't like the visual.
As for the grav torp.. the name of the torp has been used in STV so it's canon and the visual looks like a regular photon and I think that's why it was ok. Much like the Quantums from the Ico rep... they look like the torps that were used in STDS9 & STV... But when in doubt ask. It's hard to stick to canon with what the game has to offer and sometimes "demands"... main goal is to have fun.
Is it ok if I use beam banks on my defiant? I seem to have an awful time with the pulse phasers.
haha.. but but.. pusle phasers is it's trademark haha. All of my ships have beams but the Defiant is special... Beams & quad cannons
Well I ended up going with a... T5 Sovereign, (Regent or Majestic class) so I am using phaser beams and quantum torpedoes.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Is it ok if I use beam banks on my defiant? I seem to have an awful time with the pulse phasers.
haha.. but but.. pusle phasers is it's trademark haha. All of my ships have beams but the Defiant is special... Beams & quad cannons
Well I ended up going with a... T5 Sovereign, (Regent or Majestic class) so I am using phaser beams and quantum torpedoes.
NICE!... I imagine I'll be getting the T6 version when they roll that out but as it stands right now.. the T5 is still good. I'd probably be getting it if they wow me with it's skin/boff setup but I have zen set aside just for her.
I do love watching her in her battle in Nemesis... where I drew the inspiration for STB and my builds.
We will see you in game Captain and hopefully get in some pewz with you and your crew! 07
Yeah I like to commit myself as much as possible to a canon build but a lot of my builds are skirt the edge. Like, my Fed sci is in a T6 Intrepid which is largely a torpedo boat. But I have an omni-arc phaser in the back, so it looks like the typical Voyager space battle with phaser beams and torpedoes flying. But one of the torps is a PEP which I think brings a lot to the table for that character but it's not strictly speaking a canon torpedo launcher (I'm working on getting the gravimetric and neutronic launchers, which I assume are a-ok because the former was literally in an episode of Voyager and neutronic is supposed to be a special type of quantum torpedo). I also have a Reman in a Faeht that's a straight up torpedo boat, there aren't any energy weapons at all. Would that be admissable?
Or what about my tac in a Vesta with all aux-cannons up front but a torpedo and omni phaser in the back? What about my klingon tac in a Mogh which just has beams but I have the torpedo console so that does that kinda sorta count? Or my Rom who's in a Mogai that's all cannons. Strictly speaking we never see the Valdore fire torpedoes in Nemesis (that said, I am intending on getting the rom hyper plasma for that character to complete the set) :V
And sometimes i look at canon and go '...Really?' Like with the B'rel. Forward torpedo launcher and wing tip disruptor cannons? Done. But aft torpedo launcher? C'mon 'Way of the Warrior' you can't just throw a green blob out the back and call that an aft torpedo launcher. There's no launcher on the model! The forward launcher is big and obvious, so are the wingtip cannons.
Everything else though tends to be uniformly canon. So my bridge officers tend to be faction-specific without exception.
It's always nice to hear and see in game other people trying to keep things canon.
I've always said STB was mostly about trying to keep things screen accurate.. so.. it's always about the look.
So, memory alpha didn't have anything about Nuet torps or even tricobalts so I also included them.
I personally would not use the PEP as it's a plasma torp and I did not see a fed ship on screen fire one... Nor did I see a fed ship fire a purple torpedo BUT it's stated in the STO site that it's built upon quantum tech. I didn't see the tricobalt torp there but it was used in STV... use that for what it's worth BUT, I, personally will not use the Nuet torp but I do use the Vaad torp on my Akira torp boat along with the grav, breen transphasic, quantum & photon torps.
We're not about zapping the fun away from anyone... but the STB rules/guidelines are there and simply put... keep it canon.
For your Vesta
I would think also that the Vesta, like fed ships, would have torps fore & aft. When I fly mine.. funny enough I go beam, aux cannon & torp fore & 2 torps & 1 beam aft.
For your Mogh
console for torps? I've asked what some thought of that with my Akira going full beams & then just having the TPDS but when I tried it... I didn't like it... just me.
For the Roms
I've brought that point up as well that in Nemesis.. no torp was fired at all from the Roms but someone told me that they were indeed outfitted with torps but I guess choose not to use them. For my Scimi... I have the PEP torp for with DHC's and all turrets at the back... when the Sov did an attack pass behind the Scimi.. it was just cannons firing.
So yeah.. everything is up for discussion and there is a lot of reference material to pull from but in the end.. it's about keeping it canon and fun the ST way.
Not sure if that helped but I hope you give STB a try. Thank you and see you in game 07
Is it ok if I use beam banks on my defiant? I seem to have an awful time with the pulse phasers.
haha.. but but.. pusle phasers is it's trademark haha. All of my ships have beams but the Defiant is special... Beams & quad cannons
Well I ended up going with a... T5 Sovereign, (Regent or Majestic class) so I am using phaser beams and quantum torpedoes.
NICE!... I imagine I'll be getting the T6 version when they roll that out but as it stands right now.. the T5 is still good. I'd probably be getting it if they wow me with it's skin/boff setup but I have zen set aside just for her.
I do love watching her in her battle in Nemesis... where I drew the inspiration for STB and my builds.
We will see you in game Captain and hopefully get in some pewz with you and your crew! 07
Technically she's still a Commander in RP and serving on another ship... but OOC ship build is cannon.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
@trizeo1 brought this thread to my attention. After our brief conversation, we decided to have a showcase of canon builds that can be used to do Advanced and Elite content. What is needed are more build ideas that you all have so that the expert builders can give them a once-over and see what modifications we can make to those builds (if any are needed).
This post at reddit stobuilds group has the initial post. If you have never made a build on the builds page before, this template will get you started. Then copy-paste the sheet into a new post.
Ideas for builds are always welcomed, as we like to see build variety in this game, especially canon ones.
Thank you all for your time, and extra thanks to those who participate.
@trizeo1 brought this thread to my attention. After our brief conversation, we decided to have a showcase of canon builds that can be used to do Advanced and Elite content. What is needed are more build ideas that you all have so that the expert builders can give them a once-over and see what modifications we can make to those builds (if any are needed).
This post at reddit stobuilds group has the initial post. If you have never made a build on the builds page before, this template will get you started. Then copy-paste the sheet into a new post.
Ideas for builds are always welcomed, as we like to see build variety in this game, especially canon ones.
Thank you all for your time, and extra thanks to those who participate.
I would like to thank you again for chatting with me online there the other night and for making the thread up in reddit builds.
As Kin said, it will be interesting to see what comes out of it. It's always nice meeting other people who keep things canon.. just makes the missions all that more fun for me personally.
I have yet to try your suggestion on how to improve my Akira but I will do that and put my own twist on it but I thank you for that as well.
I LOVE how you and others on your show promote different builds and of course how willing you and others are to help out the STO community in general. Essentially.. letting people play how they want to play and promote fun whatever fun means to them.
I would LOVE to do a run with you and possibly show you how we do it in STB... I always like to make the whole mission an experience and get an LOL somewhere along the line.... the proposal.. an old school STB run which will take team work and communication with the intention of bringing back the "good ol' days" AND canon flavor.
Also, an invitation to you and others to join the Star Trek Battles channel which is open to everyone who wants to run canon builds with others.
Thanks for you time and hope to see you in game! 07
@trizeo1 brought this thread to my attention. After our brief conversation, we decided to have a showcase of canon builds that can be used to do Advanced and Elite content. What is needed are more build ideas that you all have so that the expert builders can give them a once-over and see what modifications we can make to those builds (if any are needed).
This post at reddit stobuilds group has the initial post. If you have never made a build on the builds page before, this template will get you started. Then copy-paste the sheet into a new post.
Ideas for builds are always welcomed, as we like to see build variety in this game, especially canon ones.
Thank you all for your time, and extra thanks to those who participate.
I would like to thank you again for chatting with me online there the other night and for making the thread up in reddit builds.
As Kin said, it will be interesting to see what comes out of it. It's always nice meeting other people who keep things canon.. just makes the missions all that more fun for me personally.
I have yet to try your suggestion on how to improve my Akira but I will do that and put my own twist on it but I thank you for that as well.
I LOVE how you and others on your show promote different builds and of course how willing you and others are to help out the STO community in general. Essentially.. letting people play how they want to play and promote fun whatever fun means to them.
I would LOVE to do a run with you and possibly show you how we do it in STB... I always like to make the whole mission an experience and get an LOL somewhere along the line.... the proposal.. an old school STB run which will take team work and communication with the intention of bringing back the "good ol' days" AND canon flavor.
Also, an invitation to you and others to join the Star Trek Battles channel which is open to everyone who wants to run canon builds with others.
Thanks for you time and hope to see you in game! 07
I thank you for the invitation and accept your offer for a Canon Run! This will be fun doing a re-design and flight test for some of my favorite ships. Once work settles down, I'll be on.
It's a canon Galaxy tank. Still a long way to go getting all the items I'll need (fresh level 60 toon). Since I'm a newbie when it comes to beam boats and tanking, insights and advice are welcome.
Ok. If Ty's running the Ex and getting decent numbers then...wait for it...THE OBERTH OF DEATH is coming out of moth balls dammit! Fear it Triz. FEAR IT!!
STO: Where men are men and the women probably are too.
I support the Star Trek Battles channel.
Does anyone here have a Defiant build(s)? I'd like to see what ideas were utilized. I'm doing mine, and field testing it w/ 2x Phaser Tac consoles, but it won't be completed until next week #Reasons
I'm flying these once in a while (or variations on my alts). Looks great, and is really fun to fly (especially the torpedoboat). 'Target_Enemy_Near_ForArc 90' recommended, especially on the cannon variant.
Not sure on the ship traits. Improved Pedal To The Metal would be a good candidate, too. I didn't optimize these builds as STO doesn't want to save my DOffs and Traits in loadouts, which gets a bit annoying when you try to also optimize other ships.
Ok Captains here is my build on my main. Currently run balanced power levels. DOFFS for cooldown are: 1 Tac Team, 2. Emergency Power to ? 3 Sci Team, 4 Cannon Abilities, 5 Evasive Maneuvers. Question can this ship pull 10k DPS? stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=atlasshrugged_11245
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Does anyone here have a Defiant build(s)? I'd like to see what ideas were utilized. I'm doing mine, and field testing it w/ 2x Phaser Tac consoles, but it won't be completed until next week #Reasons
I have been working on my Defiant with diff configs but I think the way I fly her is more of a hit and run style than the optimal beam/cannon build but I'm realizing that the Defiant is probably one of my funner ships to fly because of that style and the icing on the cake being hitting CRF, adjusting impulse, blowing up the target and hitting full impulse thru the 1st splosion hhaah.
I've also considered doing her as a torpish boat but I've got to work on that as well.. soon as I do I will be sharing.
Ok Captains here is my build on my main. Currently run balanced power levels. DOFFS for cooldown are: 1 Tac Team, 2. Emergency Power to ? 3 Sci Team, 4 Cannon Abilities, 5 Evasive Maneuvers. Question can this ship pull 10k DPS? stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=atlasshrugged_11245
Got your email and with this I'll look it over and come up with my bare suggestions... from looking at it.. you have pretty much the set up I have before trying to get some harder numbers.. nothing wrong with that so I'll also try to incorporate tips on positioning and such.
I'll try to get those to you ASAP and post it up here.... but really if you having fun in what you're flying.. then I'd say you good!
Hey thanks for looking over my builds. I'll fill out a link for my Mirror T'varo which I occasionally fly. The D'Kora is my main ship on my main char. Usually run Focused Assault instead of CRF. It's more team balanced that way. The 10k DPS I'm just curious about. Most obvious thing is the power levels as I keep in balanced instead of 125 into Weapon. Thanks for the help 07.
Hi everyone, so I saw the most recent post made today by talonxv. And I'm interested in being a part of this. I was planning on flying the assault cruiser (ent-e, or the regent, unless regent isn't allowed?) I have the recommended minumum weps (green xii's for beams and green xii's for quantum torps) so idk if i'll be able to pull 10k in it. ( i don't normally use phasers so these are the best i have lol) Also, are omni-beams allowed as long as they are race specific?
Also what are the rules about sets/consoles? Are we allowed to use Ico sets? Or do the sets and consoles we use have to be more canon specific?
And what about skills? Are there certain skills/abilities that we aren't allowed to use?
Hi everyone, so I saw the most recent post made today by talonxv. And I'm interested in being a part of this. I was planning on flying the assault cruiser (ent-e, or the regent, unless regent isn't allowed?) I have the recommended minumum weps (green xii's for beams and green xii's for quantum torps) so idk if i'll be able to pull 10k in it. ( i don't normally use phasers so these are the best i have lol) Also, are omni-beams allowed as long as they are race specific?
Also what are the rules about sets/consoles? Are we allowed to use Ico sets? Or do the sets and consoles we use have to be more canon specific?
And what about skills? Are there certain skills/abilities that we aren't allowed to use?
Sorry for the late reply there Captain.
Glad to see that STB has spiked your interest
To answer some of your questions.
The Regent is allowed (lovely ship)
Omni-beams are allowed
Any space sets or consoles are allowed... you can have it to push your dps or even cater to a more canon loadout if you'd like
Skills as in boff powers? you can use anything really if that is what you're asking.
Regarding your comment on the dps.. don't worry about what you pull in your ship.. we more about having fun doing to canon style so LOOKS are VERY important. There are some, like myself, who are pushing to see what a canon build can do but that is just to tackle the harder content other than that I wouldn't worry about it.
If there are anymore questions please feel free to contact me in game @trizeo1.
The first page also has some of the guidelines of STB so have a look over those.
Look forward to hearing from you and seeing you in game 07
This is AWESOME to see someone such as yourself tryn to canon it out as well as try to promote it as just having fun.
It's not about promoting STB.. the idea of running canon builds is not new in this game... but it's promoting HOW one can make the end game anything one wants it be as well and STILL well and stay "competitive".
There is going to be some txt babble here so bare with me but still only my opinion and thoughts.
•Neut torp - not the biggest fan of the torp so I don't personally use it... in vids you see the Defiant firing blue quantums and yellowish torps.. photons? (aslo see the Gal fire the same colored ones on occasion.)
•Heavy bio turret - EWW! GREEN! bahaha.. JK... I understand the reasoning for you running it but I can't do green.. orange or GTFO =D
•Omni phaser - PURE WIN! I have to try it out to see how I like it but I like the over mod you chose.. my concern is where it's firing from like if it were to firing from the aft section... meh.. I have to run my own tests on that.
•Rule 62 console - I have to look into getting that as it may be worth slotting on my Akira.
•As Tyrinuis pointed out.. the mixing of your consoles is interesting.. though that is how I first did my tac consoles boosting what I had loaded as opposed to the 1 main type... may have to go back to that haha.
•Powers - KLW, I want this power but not at that cost and I don't like the paywall that is there for either to obtain it. I can get it.. but I can also get a bunch of ships at that price. I want it not to really increase the dps but to have some different flavor from the normal HY/TS/BO/FAW etc. A2ID, I never thought of using that but I can see how that would make the defiant more nimble. ST, I usually go for TSS1 and go HE2 for my heals but having a shorter CD on ST that maybe something worth trying on my builds.
•Zemok, NEVER going to have him but if an opportunity came up in aquiring him.. I would try him out. I usually spam APO/APB hoping that reciprocity keeps then global.. cycling them going APB/APO/APB helps for the first cycle and the rest is dependant on how much I TRIBBLE off the enemies haha.
I'd mentioned to you that I had found my Defiant build and I will be posting it up.. soon haha. I've only parsed it 2 times but it's hit 30k & 40k which I'm sure in the right team config it can go higher but it's more about flying her how I/we saw her on the show.
I find myself wanting to push my canon builds higher but also not at the same time. Push it so that they can do the harder contents but not because some of the fun factor and or visuals get given up in favor of the all mighty dps... FAW anyone?.. and to BO.. GTFO AKA DISMISSED! LOL!
I think it's about having fun in STO which is and will be very subjective for each person... some want to kill things fast... others.. want to kill things.. but maybe not as fast. The hope is.. whatever your happy doing it.. do it!.. whether that be chasing the almighty dps... going canon.. or just having a fun build.. try to make it so that your having fun and it makes you stay in STO... I was about ready to throw in the towel TBH as I was running an AP ship on a FED ship because I was taught that was what I was supposed to do.. NOPE.. slapped on some phazurs and torp nom noms and then .. BAM the love came back for STO!.. that's me though.
What I like about the canon idea build in sto is.. it is a challenge in itself to get every last dps you can get in ISA.. BUT I do like however after some time in reviewing my logs... I find that I can outperform other ships that run AP or KLW which to me means canon is a way to go.. for some. Will it top the dps charts.. maybe one day?.... if not.. it's ok.. canon works and I think that is what I and some others are out there to prove.
Ok.. that's enough from me... It's so great seeing someone such as yourself go canon for the sake of trying to emulate what we saw on screen.. I'll just leave this here..
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Why? gravimetric looks pretty much like a more orange photon, and the photons in voyager also looked orangeish.
Anyway I'd probably be interested in bringing my science officer who will be flying a Defiant with either cannons or beam banks+turrets, whichever isn't a total pain to do. Also, quantum torpedoes most likely.
Yup, a sci in an escort. lemme get her to 50 first should only take a few days.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Or what about my tac in a Vesta with all aux-cannons up front but a torpedo and omni phaser in the back? What about my klingon tac in a Mogh which just has beams but I have the torpedo console so that does that kinda sorta count? Or my Rom who's in a Mogai that's all cannons. Strictly speaking we never see the Valdore fire torpedoes in Nemesis (that said, I am intending on getting the rom hyper plasma for that character to complete the set) :V
And sometimes i look at canon and go '...Really?' Like with the B'rel. Forward torpedo launcher and wing tip disruptor cannons? Done. But aft torpedo launcher? C'mon 'Way of the Warrior' you can't just throw a green blob out the back and call that an aft torpedo launcher. There's no launcher on the model! The forward launcher is big and obvious, so are the wingtip cannons.
Everything else though tends to be uniformly canon. So my bridge officers tend to be faction-specific without exception.
It was great to see you in the Exeter again... moreover... great seeing how happy you were in the Exeter.
That run felt good... to try and self nerf myself I think that was the run I went in on my MVAE w/1 BA & 1 torp fore & aft w/2 tac consoles BUT still had all the dps boosting consoles w/full weapons power & still managed around 18K? So just need to take off the uni consoles for maybe my Neut's and definately lower my weapons power and I should be able to hit 10k np... HAHA.. most trying to boost dps and here I am lowering my dps haha... STB day 1 all over again
Something that Kin said kind of got me thinking tho... it was something along the lines of, and please correct me if I'm wrong Kin, in a particular ISA run it was really rough and I got the impression that it wasn't as fun. I think we still finished under 10mins but Kin was taking the full brunt of the aggro on Tharon in the MVAE? So being in an escort, naturally, was squishy. I could remember when the 1st full STB team got together... HAHA.. deaths all around but it was fun actually trying not to die and really working as a team. I guess since DR those runs have been still there but with a mix of dps. I don't ever want a run be NOT fun for anyone in team but hopefully all will be aware of the type of run it will be and who is bringing what.
Over the past couple of weeks I have been trying to push my dps up to prepare for a FULL HSE STB run and I found I have 3 options to bring in.. the MVAE, Akira & Gal X. Depending on the team composition I have some good choices to bring in. Also in running with the dps channels I have learned A TON of stuff so I'd like to say a BIG THANK you for the wisdom that was passed on to me which the biggest thing I've learned was how much dps is actually needed in HSE and I think for STB what will be the KEY element is the team composition and getting the healing cycle down pat... I believe we are really close to beating HSE but just need the time to get a group together.
I think with having a general idea of where my toons are in respect to their dps.. I will be scaling back UNLESS we are doing missions that require a lil more umph or ones that have timers. I just have to figure out which gear to take off without having to buy a whole new set of gear to try and take that problem away of inv.
Anyhoot.... TC and see you in game when we see you! 07
haha.. but but.. pusle phasers is it's trademark haha. All of my ships have beams but the Defiant is special... Beams & quad cannons
Well I ended up going with a... T5 Sovereign, (Regent or Majestic class) so I am using phaser beams and quantum torpedoes.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
NICE!... I imagine I'll be getting the T6 version when they roll that out but as it stands right now.. the T5 is still good. I'd probably be getting it if they wow me with it's skin/boff setup but I have zen set aside just for her.
I do love watching her in her battle in Nemesis... where I drew the inspiration for STB and my builds.
We will see you in game Captain and hopefully get in some pewz with you and your crew! 07
It's always nice to hear and see in game other people trying to keep things canon.
I've always said STB was mostly about trying to keep things screen accurate.. so.. it's always about the look.
Here are some links I found regarding torpedoes
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Torpedo+
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Delta_Alliance_Ordnance
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Tricobalt_device
So, memory alpha didn't have anything about Nuet torps or even tricobalts so I also included them.
I personally would not use the PEP as it's a plasma torp and I did not see a fed ship on screen fire one... Nor did I see a fed ship fire a purple torpedo BUT it's stated in the STO site that it's built upon quantum tech. I didn't see the tricobalt torp there but it was used in STV... use that for what it's worth BUT, I, personally will not use the Nuet torp but I do use the Vaad torp on my Akira torp boat along with the grav, breen transphasic, quantum & photon torps.
We're not about zapping the fun away from anyone... but the STB rules/guidelines are there and simply put... keep it canon.
For your Vesta
I would think also that the Vesta, like fed ships, would have torps fore & aft. When I fly mine.. funny enough I go beam, aux cannon & torp fore & 2 torps & 1 beam aft.
For your Mogh
console for torps? I've asked what some thought of that with my Akira going full beams & then just having the TPDS but when I tried it... I didn't like it... just me.
For the Roms
I've brought that point up as well that in Nemesis.. no torp was fired at all from the Roms but someone told me that they were indeed outfitted with torps but I guess choose not to use them. For my Scimi... I have the PEP torp for with DHC's and all turrets at the back... when the Sov did an attack pass behind the Scimi.. it was just cannons firing.
So yeah.. everything is up for discussion and there is a lot of reference material to pull from but in the end.. it's about keeping it canon and fun the ST way.
Not sure if that helped but I hope you give STB a try. Thank you and see you in game 07
Technically she's still a Commander in RP and serving on another ship... but OOC ship build is cannon.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
@trizeo1 brought this thread to my attention. After our brief conversation, we decided to have a showcase of canon builds that can be used to do Advanced and Elite content. What is needed are more build ideas that you all have so that the expert builders can give them a once-over and see what modifications we can make to those builds (if any are needed).
This post at reddit stobuilds group has the initial post. If you have never made a build on the builds page before, this template will get you started. Then copy-paste the sheet into a new post.
Ideas for builds are always welcomed, as we like to see build variety in this game, especially canon ones.
Thank you all for your time, and extra thanks to those who participate.
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
I would like to thank you again for chatting with me online there the other night and for making the thread up in reddit builds.
As Kin said, it will be interesting to see what comes out of it. It's always nice meeting other people who keep things canon.. just makes the missions all that more fun for me personally.
I have yet to try your suggestion on how to improve my Akira but I will do that and put my own twist on it but I thank you for that as well.
I LOVE how you and others on your show promote different builds and of course how willing you and others are to help out the STO community in general. Essentially.. letting people play how they want to play and promote fun whatever fun means to them.
I would LOVE to do a run with you and possibly show you how we do it in STB... I always like to make the whole mission an experience and get an LOL somewhere along the line.... the proposal.. an old school STB run which will take team work and communication with the intention of bringing back the "good ol' days" AND canon flavor.
Also, an invitation to you and others to join the Star Trek Battles channel which is open to everyone who wants to run canon builds with others.
Thanks for you time and hope to see you in game! 07
I thank you for the invitation and accept your offer for a Canon Run! This will be fun doing a re-design and flight test for some of my favorite ships. Once work settles down, I'll be on.
We'll see you out there...
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/3q3w31/canon_tank_galaxy/
It's a canon Galaxy tank. Still a long way to go getting all the items I'll need (fresh level 60 toon). Since I'm a newbie when it comes to beam boats and tanking, insights and advice are welcome.
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Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
Not sure on the ship traits. Improved Pedal To The Metal would be a good candidate, too. I didn't optimize these builds as STO doesn't want to save my DOffs and Traits in loadouts, which gets a bit annoying when you try to also optimize other ships.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=canoncannondefiant_6112
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=canontorpdefiant_6112
In case I forgot it: Intel Primary, Command Secondary.
stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=atlasshrugged_11245
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
I have been working on my Defiant with diff configs but I think the way I fly her is more of a hit and run style than the optimal beam/cannon build but I'm realizing that the Defiant is probably one of my funner ships to fly because of that style and the icing on the cake being hitting CRF, adjusting impulse, blowing up the target and hitting full impulse thru the 1st splosion hhaah.
I've also considered doing her as a torpish boat but I've got to work on that as well.. soon as I do I will be sharing.
Hope to fly with you soon 07
Got your email and with this I'll look it over and come up with my bare suggestions... from looking at it.. you have pretty much the set up I have before trying to get some harder numbers.. nothing wrong with that so I'll also try to incorporate tips on positioning and such.
I'll try to get those to you ASAP and post it up here.... but really if you having fun in what you're flying.. then I'd say you good!
See you in game! 07
It's the universal console that comes with the D'Kora. Basically an extra Tac slot + Swarm Missiles.
Also what are the rules about sets/consoles? Are we allowed to use Ico sets? Or do the sets and consoles we use have to be more canon specific?
And what about skills? Are there certain skills/abilities that we aren't allowed to use?
https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/3ruvy2/stb_fleet_defiant_antiborg_destroyer/
Thank you!
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
Sorry for the late reply there Captain.
Glad to see that STB has spiked your interest
To answer some of your questions.
The Regent is allowed (lovely ship)
Omni-beams are allowed
Any space sets or consoles are allowed... you can have it to push your dps or even cater to a more canon loadout if you'd like
Skills as in boff powers? you can use anything really if that is what you're asking.
Regarding your comment on the dps.. don't worry about what you pull in your ship.. we more about having fun doing to canon style so LOOKS are VERY important. There are some, like myself, who are pushing to see what a canon build can do but that is just to tackle the harder content other than that I wouldn't worry about it.
If there are anymore questions please feel free to contact me in game @trizeo1.
The first page also has some of the guidelines of STB so have a look over those.
Look forward to hearing from you and seeing you in game 07
Captain Marshall! 07
This is AWESOME to see someone such as yourself tryn to canon it out as well as try to promote it as just having fun.
It's not about promoting STB.. the idea of running canon builds is not new in this game... but it's promoting HOW one can make the end game anything one wants it be as well and STILL well and stay "competitive".
There is going to be some txt babble here so bare with me but still only my opinion and thoughts.
•Neut torp - not the biggest fan of the torp so I don't personally use it... in vids you see the Defiant firing blue quantums and yellowish torps.. photons? (aslo see the Gal fire the same colored ones on occasion.)
•Heavy bio turret - EWW! GREEN! bahaha.. JK... I understand the reasoning for you running it but I can't do green.. orange or GTFO =D
•Omni phaser - PURE WIN! I have to try it out to see how I like it but I like the over mod you chose.. my concern is where it's firing from like if it were to firing from the aft section... meh.. I have to run my own tests on that.
•Rule 62 console - I have to look into getting that as it may be worth slotting on my Akira.
•As Tyrinuis pointed out.. the mixing of your consoles is interesting.. though that is how I first did my tac consoles boosting what I had loaded as opposed to the 1 main type... may have to go back to that haha.
•Powers - KLW, I want this power but not at that cost and I don't like the paywall that is there for either to obtain it. I can get it.. but I can also get a bunch of ships at that price. I want it not to really increase the dps but to have some different flavor from the normal HY/TS/BO/FAW etc. A2ID, I never thought of using that but I can see how that would make the defiant more nimble. ST, I usually go for TSS1 and go HE2 for my heals but having a shorter CD on ST that maybe something worth trying on my builds.
•Zemok, NEVER going to have him but if an opportunity came up in aquiring him.. I would try him out. I usually spam APO/APB hoping that reciprocity keeps then global.. cycling them going APB/APO/APB helps for the first cycle and the rest is dependant on how much I TRIBBLE off the enemies haha.
I'd mentioned to you that I had found my Defiant build and I will be posting it up.. soon haha. I've only parsed it 2 times but it's hit 30k & 40k which I'm sure in the right team config it can go higher but it's more about flying her how I/we saw her on the show.
I find myself wanting to push my canon builds higher but also not at the same time. Push it so that they can do the harder contents but not because some of the fun factor and or visuals get given up in favor of the all mighty dps... FAW anyone?.. and to BO.. GTFO AKA DISMISSED! LOL!
I think it's about having fun in STO which is and will be very subjective for each person... some want to kill things fast... others.. want to kill things.. but maybe not as fast. The hope is.. whatever your happy doing it.. do it!.. whether that be chasing the almighty dps... going canon.. or just having a fun build.. try to make it so that your having fun and it makes you stay in STO... I was about ready to throw in the towel TBH as I was running an AP ship on a FED ship because I was taught that was what I was supposed to do.. NOPE.. slapped on some phazurs and torp nom noms and then .. BAM the love came back for STO!.. that's me though.
What I like about the canon idea build in sto is.. it is a challenge in itself to get every last dps you can get in ISA.. BUT I do like however after some time in reviewing my logs... I find that I can outperform other ships that run AP or KLW which to me means canon is a way to go.. for some. Will it top the dps charts.. maybe one day?.... if not.. it's ok.. canon works and I think that is what I and some others are out there to prove.
Ok.. that's enough from me... It's so great seeing someone such as yourself go canon for the sake of trying to emulate what we saw on screen.. I'll just leave this here..
TC Captain... and see you in game! 07