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EC Exchange Market: Way Overpriced for New Players
venkou
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EC Exchange Market: Way Overpriced for New Players
As someone who is starting from scratch, building my first two ships, I find the items on the EC Exchange to be way overpriced. I am unable to make a solid build, which I could use to test items. I will eventually buy my first two c-store ships this week. However, if the EC Market prices remain high, I will not be able to create an affective build.
Quantum Torpedoes MK X, XI, and XII (purple) are valued at 20,000ish ec; however, players are selling them for 600,000-2,000,000 ec. I found many items to be overpriced.
Is there a way to force the EC Exchange market prices downward, so that noobie players can have a chance to build ships?
Is there also a way to obtain (non-reputation and fleet holding) purple items, which do not appear on the exchange? I think some of the (non-holdings) items are rapidly depleting.
As someone who is starting from scratch, building my first two ships, I find the items on the EC Exchange to be way overpriced. I am unable to make a solid build, which I could use to test items. I will eventually buy my first two c-store ships this week. However, if the EC Market prices remain high, I will not be able to create an affective build.
Quantum Torpedoes MK X, XI, and XII (purple) are valued at 20,000ish ec; however, players are selling them for 600,000-2,000,000 ec. I found many items to be overpriced.
Is there a way to force the EC Exchange market prices downward, so that noobie players can have a chance to build ships?
Is there also a way to obtain (non-reputation and fleet holding) purple items, which do not appear on the exchange? I think some of the (non-holdings) items are rapidly depleting.
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I will pass on buying zen.
Thanks. I almost made a mistake.
I am barely able to build two entry level ships.
Cryptic nerfed ways to obtain efficient amount of ec; therefore, I am having problems with gathering enough resources. I feel like I am being pinched.
Every MMO with an auction that's been out for more than a year is the same - Excessive prices for items, simply because those that have been playing have amassed large piles of imaginary cash.
Kind of a bummer. I had plans on buying some zen, so I can obtain my first two ships. Since I am unable to gather enough energy credits, I will not be able to build them efficiently.
Live an learn I guess.
Thanks for the feedback.
What items do you need? (send me a list of items) maybe I have it in my bank so I can send it to you in-game.
WHITE or COMMON items that come equipped on your ship as you level up are more than sufficient to defeat all missions in game. Loot drops can bring you better weapons and selling them brings EC.
Replaying early missions at higher levels yields level-matching equipment and is an easier way of obtaining better equipment.
Seriously, the exchange isn't really "for" new players, per se, but for perfecting a build with that one "must have" item.
Every ship I've played (and I have 6 toons) has earned equipment by levelling up and replaying missions (some of that stuff is awesome at MK XI). It is only once I reached a plateau with that that I started with rep items (Omega rep is probably the best for equipment, romulan for weapons IMO).
Quitting the game because a player-driven economy irks you is chirlish.
Try the above first, then QQ if you still feel "wronged".
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Actually, until you are at your end-game, building out your ship with the best stuff is really kind of pointless. The entry-level ship with the stuff will still get smashed up quick in PvP and PvE, and the episodes are designed for a normal ship to be able to make it through--so a maxed-out ship will just be overkill.
If you play regularly, you'll level up your captain pretty quick, anyhow, so you would probably be better waiting until you are level 50 to start obtaining the best stuff. Once there, getting enough EC for the best stuff in the exchange will no longer be such a big deal. I can get well over 1,000,000 EC in just a couple of days without even trying--just by playing PvE and various missions, selling off the unneeded loot. Plus, some of the really good stuff is best obtained either from the Fleet store or the Reputation system, not from the Exchange, anyhow.
Crafting can be cost-effective at pre-endgame levels, if you have the time and patience to collect the necessary low-level data samples for making blueprints.
Being in a good fleet will help - not necessarily for fleet equipment (it takes time to build up enough fleet credit for the good stuff), but fleetmates will often help out directly, or will put spare gear into the fleet bank.
It's possible to get by without paying exchange prices, is what I'm saying. It can take time, but it's possible.
I even managed to treat myself to a Mirror Negh'Var since I had the EC to spare.
I am fine with the idea that I can't compete with better ships using better gear. But I can do enough to function at endgame.
I did end up mixing and matching the items, which you can obtain from the Sphere episodes. I have the shields, engines, warp core, and deflector from 'Sphere of Influence' and '4th Anniversary Mission'. I think those items provide a great starting point.
Thank you for the advice.
I would not give up on this game over the exchange prices. As people have already said, the gear that comes with your ships and from missions and loot drops are more than enough to get you through the leveling content. Also, go to Memory Alpha and work on your crafting. The crafting system is flawed but you can get decent leveling gear that way.
Don't be a tool.....you can make a plenty good build with the stuff you earn in game....and by selling loot and mining dilithium....
You already stated you are ready to buy "your first two c-store ships" so obviously you don't mind investing money in the game.
Want more EC....buy a pack of master keys...sell them for close to 2 million each....they sell almost instantly....
Need more dilithium.....convert some Zen.....at about 128-132 d per z....
Again....you don't NEED to do any of this......you could just grind missions and get great gear.
Every game worth playing will be like this now....it's the best way to keep them funded so they are here for us to enjoy...
If you don't like the system, fine....but don't play victim.....
I am only able to get through a handful of sectors.
I got a few accolades through 'Tour the Galaxy'.
better versions of nearly everything you see on the exchange that you think you need can already be found in fleet holdings for cheaper. dont have 35 million ec for a tac console? buy a better one from the fleet store for 8500 dil, and so on.
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This is solid advice.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Episode_replay
The above is a link that you can browser for what you want.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I really needed that list. After I played through the missions, I was not able to determine if there was episode replay value.
That and certain individuals playing the market.
A certain item i've been eyeballing has increased in cost by 35% in less than 1 week and every item below an X price has vanished. That is a tell tale that someone is playing the market for that item.
But overall, unless you want to build for PVP, you can make due with Mk Xi rare items for endgame. They're relatively cheap and sufficient for PVE.
The shortness of the mission is intentional. My ship is pretty fast, though not the fastest out there--I come short of hitting the entire galaxy by few sectors. I think it is designed so that no one would be able to hit everywhere in that 15 minutes, so that the rewards are truly balanced toward faster ships, as opposed to being the same for everyone. As you level up, your ship will have slipstream, which will add extreme speed. The ship giveaway with the anniversary event also has a special feature of being able to jump several light-years, so will probably bring the full tour within reach.
HOWEVER, there are ways around this. If you go to the Foundry missions, there are EC grinding missions that can get you enough EC to properly outfit a ship, or better yet depending on the drop, you can outfit without even having to sell all the drops for EC.
Again ways around this young one, just ask.
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Everything old is new - rare phaser beam arrays [crtd x 2 or dmg x 2] (or blue TOS phaser BA's [crth/dmg])
Past Imperfect - Rare plasma-disruptor BA or DHC, efficient engine, paratrinic shield
Skirmish - rare covariant shield [cap x 2]
Project nightingale - rare plasma BA, DBB, DHC, torp all acc x 2
Installation 18 - rare piercing tetryon DBB, DC, turret
Coliseum - reman covariant shield
The new link - polarized tetryon BA, DBB
Operation gamma - Jem Hadar deflector, engine
Boldly they rode - Jem Hadar shield, dominion BA, DC
A light in the dark - rare neutronium alloy (used to but may have changed)
Cold call - Breen deflector
Cold case - Breen engine
Cold storage - breen shield
You can repeat the missions to get Jem Hadar and breen sets and sell those to a bartender for 100,000 ec each.
The above is more than enough to do stf's with. For the purple gear, farm kerrat for the drops just expect to be harassed by Klingons. You can get more blue/purple drops from npc's in story missions by changing difficulty to elite. Do that and play Shutdown, only instead of taking out the turrets on ds9 go fight the cardassian ships instead, they constantly respawn keldon and galors.
Step I. Get some white or green Mk XII gear from the exchange. ALthough blue and purple are hell in prizes, the white and green stuff is usually half the value. So for, say, 100k ec you can have a decent mix of weapons and consoles. Nothing that will get you up to 50k DPS (yes, I have seen people making that amount), but 4-5k should be manageable. Personally I would go Polaron (see step II).
Step II. Get a space set. I'd reccomend the Jem'Hadar Set (obtainable by playing "Operation Gamma" and "Boldly they Rode" from the Cardassian story arc), since it gives a bonus to Polaron Damage. And next to that, that gear is pretty decent. If you decide you don't like the Jem'Hadar set, you can always go for a Solanae set by playing "A Step Between Stars" 3 times. It is an investment in time. But I'm currently experimenting with this set, and I am not dissapointed.
Step III. Get yourself a good fleet. A good fleet isn't about gear, its about people in it. To have a friendly fleet that is willing to fly with you in the endgame content can help you very much. Being a fleet leader myself, I invested a lot of time in playing with new level 50's through the PvE's I don't need myself. They stood a much better chance at getting the rewards this way.
Step IV. The end-game equipment. Your starting set, combined with running matches with your fleet, will have boosted your amount of fleet credits and reputation. At this point, you can start working on Fleet Consoles, Warp Cores and Weaponry, and think of replacing your Jem'Hadar/Solanae set with whatever suits your play style. Slowly you will replace a common beam array, followed by the next one. You get more powerful.
EDIT: Step V. There is a good chance that your fleet doesn't have access to all the top tier special equipment such as FLeet Mk XII Tactical Consoles. Don't feel down by a long time needed to unlock access to these. There are plenty of channels out there like NoPPublicService. Here you can ask for invites to other fleet maps, where vendors can sell you just the item you want. To join this channels, type "/channel_join NoPPublicService" in your ingame chat box. /EDIT
And ultimately, you will have an excellent build. You just need to be willing to spend time on it, and be able to find the right fleet to help you out. STO comes with a lot of different fleets. I've been in good ones and bad ones. Right now I'm leading a fleet with some other players, and we do the best we can for our members. But which fleet you ultimately join, is all your choice.
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also under the foundry missions look for loot-o-matic 3000. Good mission for farming for gear. can only really run this about once a day but you can get some damn good loot drops out of it. So run it with both toons you'll either get a lot of EC or some equipment you can use for your level.
GL!
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