And there is a reason why Pandas never bother show up in Kerrat
Aside from the past several weeks when I go to Kerrat and there are no klinks to shoot and I'm bored out of my skull, we don't go to Kerrat as a fleet because we enjoy arena more and because we'd probably get no end of grief showing up in force in kerrat.
We have guys who go their individually from time to time, but there is very little reason to show up in a fleet team - or do you need us to come provide welfare for you?
to defend the Federation, despite all their grandiose claims of superior teamwork. Kerrat is infested with several nasty Klink premades, just to name a few : HOBO, ISC, Nerds or Prey, House of Snoo and etc. On the Fed side, Nova Core, 1st Alpha Quandrant and few German fleets sometimes show up to help protect the farmers, most of the times, they are not there. Where are the superior Panda?
We're usually in arena because "defending the Federation" is RP and you can be vote kicked from Sad Pandas for RPing.
That chip on your shoulder, how much does it weigh?
MIA It's nice your team have some dedicated snoopers though a "dedicated snoopr" who can't stand his own ground is useless in Kerrat. Unlike Arena where teams are usually evenly matched. In Kerrat, you have to deal with sometimes up to 10 Klinks vs 1 or 2 Fed ships, many of these Klinks will be cloaked and ready to jump on you. You only have a few seconds of window opportunity - fire, kill then run away before getting swarmed, not to mention all those KDF cheesy pets like Elite Interceptors, Power Siphon Drones flying all over the place. I love to see how your Panda team handles Kerrat for once, actually making good on your claim. You see, not all battles can be fought on even ground. Arena assumes teams are almost always even matched number wise but that's not the reality. Most battles don't have even numbers, maybe you ought to try it.
I wish there were klinks there to shoot when I go there.
Usually I end up watching some clowns in cruisers farm the borg waiting for some signs of life from the KDF.
You should learn the difference between passive and active detection then, because you replied to one about the other. Most of your posts sound like you talk about it but never done it.
And there's really no need to threaten to bring your fleet to kick my TRIBBLE for pointing it out. Kinda weak really.
You should learn the difference between passive and active detection then, because you replied to one about the other. Most of your posts sound like you talk about it but never done it.
And there's really no need to threaten to bring your fleet to kick my TRIBBLE for pointing it out. Kinda weak really.
I'm not threatening to kick your bum with my team, you are one guy! :P
I literally meant a demonstration, not a match, of what can be accomplished.
I understood your point about passive vs. active, but literally you do not need Starship Stealth skill for Passive vs. Passive.
It does very little for you, and the investment cost is way out of line.
It is a T4 skill that provides absolutely no other benefit, now compare it to starship sensors that has enough benefit you can even justify taking it on a non-sci captain, non-sci ship.
I hope that Sad Pandas, the best of the best of the Federation PvP Fleets will show up in Kerrat because the most evul KDF Fleets are there to harass we poor Feds!
Come on to play a real war, where guts and glory are better than teamworking!
I'd like to see the terrific HOBOs, sure the best of the best evuls, vaporized by an OP Sad Pandas team...I have a dream!:cool:
I think you Fed & KDF kerrat guys are secretly in love with one another. :P
Do you remember a time when Romulans were virtually undetectable? I do. I gave out too many hints already.
Well, if that's all the snooper does, sure. I can think of a lot ways to make these Klinks cry even louder even though I don't use any Starship Sensor Probes consoles or for that matter, attempt to max out of my SDR. You see, the problem is, most of us don't have the luxury of receiving free welfare from the so called "team mates". And there is a reason why Pandas never bother show up in Kerrat to defend the Federation, despite all their grandiose claims of superior teamwork. Kerrat is infested with several nasty Klink premades, just to name a few : HOBO, ISC, Nerds or Prey, House of Snoo and etc. On the Fed side, Nova Core, 1st Alpha Quandrant and few German fleets sometimes show up to help protect the farmers, most of the times, they are not there. Where are the superior Panda? MIA It's nice your team have some dedicated snoopers though a "dedicated snoopr" who can't stand his own ground is useless in Kerrat. Unlike Arena where teams are usually evenly matched. In Kerrat, you have to deal with sometimes up to 10 Klinks vs 1 or 2 Fed ships, many of these Klinks will be cloaked and ready to jump on you. You only have a few seconds of window opportunity - fire, kill then run away before getting swarmed, not to mention all those KDF cheesy pets like Elite Interceptors, Power Siphon Drones flying all over the place. I love to see how your Panda team handles Kerrat for once, actually making good on your claim. You see, not all battles can be fought on even ground. Arena assumes teams are almost always even matched number wise but that's not the reality. Most battles don't have even numbers, maybe you ought to try it.
I do not agree with the Pandas on a lot but a fleet trolling Ker'rat is bad form in my opinion, IE a purposeful premade with the sole intention of PvPing but trolling in ker'rat between pops. Now I know some fleets team up for things and may not properly composed for PvP matches but are "team building" I have no issue with that. Alsi last I checked there is a feature in game called "invite to team", I heard it is very easy to use involving a right click I believe I am not 100% sure.
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
I do not agree with the Pandas on a lot but a fleet trolling Ker'rat is bad form in my opinion, IE a purposeful premade with the sole intention of PvPing but trolling in ker'rat between pops. Now I know some fleets team up for things and may not properly composed for PvP matches but are "team building" I have no issue with that. Alsi last I checked there is a feature in game called "invite to team", I heard it is very easy to use involving a right click I believe I am not 100% sure.
Sssshh!!! I want to sell everyone on the idea that RPing in Pandas gets you vote kicked!! :P
Also, I heard for Season 9 that the "Invite to Team" button is being renamed to "Organized Welfare".
Sssshh!!! I want to sell everyone on the idea that RPing in Pandas gets you vote kicked!! :P
Also, I heard for Season 9 that the "Invite to Team" button is being renamed to "Organized Welfare".
But you have re-trait to "Community Organizer" and drive your fleet to point of being broke and borrowing from chinese gold farmers. But you know what they say about rumors in this game.... :eek:
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
But you have re-trait to "Community Organizer" and drive your fleet to point of being broke and borrowing from chinese gold farmers. But you know what they say about rumors in this game.... :eek:
uh...the racial stereotyping comments refereeing to the Chinese and Obama are borderline racist, it's best to stop now, thanks
Only racist if not fact, not to mention all tongue in cheek. But I guess if it was a "nucular" joke it would have been ok. But nice to see the camp you are in, it explains a lot.
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
I do not agree with the Pandas on a lot but a fleet trolling Ker'rat is bad form in my opinion, IE a purposeful premade with the sole intention of PvPing but trolling in ker'rat between pops. Now I know some fleets team up for things and may not properly composed for PvP matches but are "team building" I have no issue with that. Alsi last I checked there is a feature in game called "invite to team", I heard it is very easy to use involving a right click I believe I am not 100% sure.
Well, you should told the Klinks in Kerrat about that. They aren't just there between the pops, most of the time. And it's always the same fleets and same people.
As for the claim that there is no Klink in Kerrat to shoot and he got bored. You know, I think it's possible he just showed up in a wrong time, once, twice maybe a few times. But all the time? To me, that sounds like a lame excuse. There are a lot of Klinks in Kerrat most of the time but you don't always see them - well, because they aren't visible. Klinks in Kerrat don't just appear out in the open for no reason, you have to find them. It further supported the fact that guy has never been a snooper and doesn't understand how snooping works. Kerrat is anything but boring. If and when Klinks reach overwhelming numbers and start to spawn camping, I sometimes go on public channels and ask for people to come back up. Never once saw any Panda hear the call but others do. That's fact. I am open to convinced otherwise, until then I am more inclined to believe that fleet has no interest in fighting any battle where they can be outnumbered by cheesy and nasty Klinks, similar to how they never do C&H either.
Well, you should told the Klinks in Kerrat about that. They aren't just there between the pops, most of the time. And it's always the same fleets and same people.
As for the claim that there is no Klink in Kerrat to shoot and he got bored. You know, I think it's possible he just showed up in a wrong time, once, twice maybe a few times. But all the time? To me, that sounds like a lame excuse. There are a lot of Klinks in Kerrat most of the time but you don't always see them - well, because they aren't visible. Klinks in Kerrat don't just appear out in the open for no reason, you have to find them. It further supported the fact that guy has never been a snooper and doesn't understand how snooping works. Kerrat is anything but boring. If and when Klinks reach overwhelming numbers and start to spawn camping, I sometimes go on public channels and ask for people to come back up. Never once saw any Panda hear the call but others do. That's fact. I am open to convinced otherwise, until then I am more inclined to believe that fleet has no interest in fighting any battle where they can be outnumbered by cheesy and nasty Klinks, similar to how they never do C&H either.
Some fleets and people really do not care about the QQ when the KDF spawn camps feds because guess what there are times that feds do it to. There were times were I zone into kerrat to spawn in the middle of a fed fedball camping on or near spawn.
Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
Well, you should told the Klinks in Kerrat about that. They aren't just there between the pops, most of the time. And it's always the same fleets and same people.
As for the claim that there is no Klink in Kerrat to shoot and he got bored. You know, I think it's possible he just showed up in a wrong time, once, twice maybe a few times. But all the time? To me, that sounds like a lame excuse. There are a lot of Klinks in Kerrat most of the time but you don't always see them - well, because they aren't visible. Klinks in Kerrat don't just appear out in the open for no reason, you have to find them. It further supported the fact that guy has never been a snooper and doesn't understand how snooping works. Kerrat is anything but boring. If and when Klinks reach overwhelming numbers and start to spawn camping, I sometimes go on public channels and ask for people to come back up. Never once saw any Panda hear the call but others do. That's fact. I am open to convinced otherwise, until then I am more inclined to believe that fleet has no interest in fighting any battle where they can be outnumbered by cheesy and nasty Klinks, similar to how they never do C&H either.
You are certainly entitled to your opinions, however misguided.
You should learn the difference between passive and active detection then, because you replied to one about the other. Most of your posts sound like you talk about it but never done it.
It is a T4 skill that provides absolutely no other benefit, now compare it to starship sensors that has enough benefit you can even justify taking it on a non-sci captain, non-sci ship.
That much is clear. The best snooper is in fact a non-sci ship. Anyone who read the OP's post and Julius' subsequent moaning knows it by now. Anyone who has been a snopper knows this as well except those who pretend to know but has a guy in his fleet who knows. :rolleyes:
That much is clear. The best snooper is in fact a non-sci ship. Anyone who read the OP's post and Julius' subsequent moaning knows it by now. Anyone who has been a snopper knows this as well except those who pretend to know but has a guy in his fleet who knows. :rolleyes:
No the best snooper is in fact a Sci ship.
The best hunter-killer is not a Sci ship.
Both require teamwork to be effective in arena premades, but one gives up less for the team to have a dedicated snooper while not loosing a Sci ship to that niche role.
The other one, loses the team a Sci ship but has a better ability to kill cloakers on its own.
Maybe one day you will be bold enough to defend the federation in arena 5v5s!
You are certainly entitled to your opinions, however misguided.
Then prove me wrong and I will be very happy that you prove me wrong. HOBO and ISC usually shows up in number sometimes between 8PM - 12 AM EST every night. You come during this time, it's almost a sure bet you'll run into several of them. Nerds of Prey is less regular, but sometime after 9PM, they can show up in big numbers as well.
Next time, when I see a huge number of Klinks in a ball, I will make a point of letting the major public channels know. Though I am sure we won't be seeing any Panda. Never have been ever since I start playing STO and I see no reason why it will suddenly change either.
That much is clear. The best snooper is in fact a non-sci ship. Anyone who read the OP's post and Julius' subsequent moaning knows it by now. Anyone who has been a snopper knows this as well except those who pretend to know but has a guy in his fleet who knows. :rolleyes:
All right, getting tired of this.
Ultimatum doesn't just have friends that do this. He actively helps them test it. We all help each other test things like SDRvStealth, and ID vs GravGens, or CMS v Sensors. You're barking way up the wrong tree buddy, the cat you're looking for isn't up that one, but nice try.
Then prove me wrong and I will be very happy that you prove me wrong. HOBO and ISC usually shows up in number sometimes between 8PM - 12 AM EST every night. You come during this time, it's almost a sure bet you'll run into several of them. Nerds of Prey is less regular, but sometime after 9PM, they can show up in big numbers as well.
Next time, when I see a huge number of Klinks in a ball, I will make a point of letting the major public channels know. Though I am sure we won't be seeing any Panda. Never have been ever since I start playing STO and I see no reason why it will suddenly change either.
Because Pandas enjoy team-based PvP (not PvPvE) and the best place to do that is in the Arena queues. Ker'rat is mostly for lulz, but we do spend a lot of time there, as individuals, not a premade. Premades in Ker'rat are just uncalled for. I know HOBOs and ISC do it, we don't, it's that simple.
Both require teamwork to be effective in arena premades, but one gives up less for the team to have a dedicated snooper while not loosing a Sci ship to that niche role.
The other one, loses the team a Sci ship but has a better ability to kill cloakers on its own.
Using a Sci ship as a snooper is not ideal because being the best snooper is not about the highest SDR. As one of the most hated snoopers by Klinks in Kerrat, I can tell you if you fly a Sci ship or say a fleet Nebula into Kerrat thinking you are going to decloak some Klinks. lolno, that ship is going to be toast in seconds. And if it's dead, it can't do much snooping, obviously. The reasoning is simple. There is currently no Sci ship in any faction that allows them to engage in full scanning mode while cloaked. Assuming your opponents are competent Klink PvP fleets, the first thing they will do is to keep a great distance from that snooper who will have a bulls eye sign printed on it. Then, they will watch for buffs on that ship and come in with coordinated alphas and immediately kill that snooper. The way HOBO ambushes is there is usually one single unkillable tank out in the open, sometimes 2, with 5~6 ships cloaked nearby. Having a Sci ship acting as snooper simply wont' fly. Even if you get a Romulan Sci ship, that vessel cannot scan under cloak so it can't snoop while cloaked. The 1 or 2 tank cruisers will probably have lots Elite Interceptors around and spamming AA all over the place, making your coordinated team effort to save that snooper very difficult. And there will be more ships watching in the dark, ready to ambush. So picture this, Elite Interceptors out in force and you can't FAW because AA will make sure you kill yourself first. Your Sci snooper will die in the next 2 seconds. What do you do? HOBO are accustomed to the Kerrat environment with Zelda sometimes leading the charge. If Panda shows up in Kerrat in a 5 man team thinking they can just turn Kerrat war zone into yet another Arena match, they are going to get creamed by HOBO totally.
I can tell you if you fly a Sci ship or say a fleet Nebula into Kerrat thinking you are going to decloak some Klinks. lolno, that ship is going to be toast in seconds.
Now it's my turn.
"lolno" if you think I was talking about the Nebula, you are wrong.
So HOBOs and ISC invade Kerrat but the mighty Sad Pandas refuse to do the same...
Ehh...it's too simple indeed...maybe are you scared to be ganked?:P
It doesn't matter how they try to sugar coat it and no matter all these exaggerated claims of superior teamwork, the fact is they can't be functional outside of a pre-defined 5 vs 5 environment. Not even in C&H, which is quite telling. In comparison, HOBO also does C&H. In this sense, as much as I hate HOBO, they have my respect in this regard as they are a real team who adapt to different situations, even when they are being outnumbered. Most battles don't fight on even numbers for both sides but I suppose some people can never leave the simulator for the real battlefield...
"lolno" if you think I was talking about the Nebula, you are wrong.
"say a fleet Nebula"
In English, this means "as an example but not limited to"
Interesting theory.
I think at this point I'll let you continue to post stuff and I'll join all the others that have the good sense to ignore it.
I know sharing practical application is beyond your theoretical understanding. I am providing you with feedback in good faith, you replied in insults. It's quite telling why you can't hold a conversation from this point forward.
I know sharing practical application is beyond your theoretical understanding. I am providing you with feedback in good faith, you replied in insults. It's quite telling why you can't hold a conversation from this point forward.
Take a look in the mirror, many of your posts are laden with insults.
Not that you actually listen, but reality is that Kerrat and C&H are just for the luls for us.
When pandas have shown up there as a loose team, we get no end of grief about it. (I think the last C&H one guy took screenshots and threatened to report us for destroying all the KDF turrets)
Just because other fleets think its fun to roflstomp C&H or Kerrat, doesn't mean we do. Just like how other fleets sometimes run nothing but 3+ TIF wells powered clicky console cheesefests and we don't.
I smell an open invite for Pandas to run amuck vs Evul Klingons in Kerrat. Please dont complain if i get to field 2 balanced teams simultaneously in kerrat.
I smell an open invite for Pandas to run amuck vs Evul Klingons in Kerrat. Please dont complain if i get to field 2 balanced teams simultaneously in kerrat.
Challenge accepted!
Actually I think we should dust off the KDF fleet and go Fed hunting instead. :P
Where is that side switching glitch when you need it?
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Yes, and it had nothing to do with the starship stealth skill.
My fleet has some very skilled decloak strikers, and some of the best in the game. We know how stealth and perception works.
Ah yes, I forgot you think team work is welfare.
I guess you have never seen a team sporting event in the history of your entire life.
Aside from the past several weeks when I go to Kerrat and there are no klinks to shoot and I'm bored out of my skull, we don't go to Kerrat as a fleet because we enjoy arena more and because we'd probably get no end of grief showing up in force in kerrat.
We have guys who go their individually from time to time, but there is very little reason to show up in a fleet team - or do you need us to come provide welfare for you?
We're usually in arena because "defending the Federation" is RP and you can be vote kicked from Sad Pandas for RPing.
That chip on your shoulder, how much does it weigh?
I wish there were klinks there to shoot when I go there.
Usually I end up watching some clowns in cruisers farm the borg waiting for some signs of life from the KDF.
Maybe its my timezone.
I didn't miss it.
You're still not making any sense.
I guess that's a no for that demonstration too then?
I don't have to run one to know what it does, or how its built.
We do a lot of testing, we share a lot of information.
We use each other as target bunnies.
And we coordinate in matches, so I can tell you that yes I have been on both ends of the match with and against dedicated snoopers.
I'm not unfamiliar with how they work.
And there's really no need to threaten to bring your fleet to kick my TRIBBLE for pointing it out. Kinda weak really.
I'm not threatening to kick your bum with my team, you are one guy! :P
I literally meant a demonstration, not a match, of what can be accomplished.
I understood your point about passive vs. active, but literally you do not need Starship Stealth skill for Passive vs. Passive.
It does very little for you, and the investment cost is way out of line.
It is a T4 skill that provides absolutely no other benefit, now compare it to starship sensors that has enough benefit you can even justify taking it on a non-sci captain, non-sci ship.
I think you Fed & KDF kerrat guys are secretly in love with one another. :P
I do not agree with the Pandas on a lot but a fleet trolling Ker'rat is bad form in my opinion, IE a purposeful premade with the sole intention of PvPing but trolling in ker'rat between pops. Now I know some fleets team up for things and may not properly composed for PvP matches but are "team building" I have no issue with that. Alsi last I checked there is a feature in game called "invite to team", I heard it is very easy to use involving a right click I believe I am not 100% sure.
Sssshh!!! I want to sell everyone on the idea that RPing in Pandas gets you vote kicked!! :P
Also, I heard for Season 9 that the "Invite to Team" button is being renamed to "Organized Welfare".
But you have re-trait to "Community Organizer" and drive your fleet to point of being broke and borrowing from chinese gold farmers. But you know what they say about rumors in this game.... :eek:
Is that a real rumor? That's awesome!
Only racist if not fact, not to mention all tongue in cheek. But I guess if it was a "nucular" joke it would have been ok. But nice to see the camp you are in, it explains a lot.
Its on the internet so it must be true......
Well, you should told the Klinks in Kerrat about that. They aren't just there between the pops, most of the time. And it's always the same fleets and same people.
As for the claim that there is no Klink in Kerrat to shoot and he got bored. You know, I think it's possible he just showed up in a wrong time, once, twice maybe a few times. But all the time? To me, that sounds like a lame excuse. There are a lot of Klinks in Kerrat most of the time but you don't always see them - well, because they aren't visible. Klinks in Kerrat don't just appear out in the open for no reason, you have to find them. It further supported the fact that guy has never been a snooper and doesn't understand how snooping works. Kerrat is anything but boring. If and when Klinks reach overwhelming numbers and start to spawn camping, I sometimes go on public channels and ask for people to come back up. Never once saw any Panda hear the call but others do. That's fact. I am open to convinced otherwise, until then I am more inclined to believe that fleet has no interest in fighting any battle where they can be outnumbered by cheesy and nasty Klinks, similar to how they never do C&H either.
Some fleets and people really do not care about the QQ when the KDF spawn camps feds because guess what there are times that feds do it to. There were times were I zone into kerrat to spawn in the middle of a fed fedball camping on or near spawn.
You are certainly entitled to your opinions, however misguided.
That much is clear. The best snooper is in fact a non-sci ship. Anyone who read the OP's post and Julius' subsequent moaning knows it by now. Anyone who has been a snopper knows this as well except those who pretend to know but has a guy in his fleet who knows. :rolleyes:
No the best snooper is in fact a Sci ship.
The best hunter-killer is not a Sci ship.
Both require teamwork to be effective in arena premades, but one gives up less for the team to have a dedicated snooper while not loosing a Sci ship to that niche role.
The other one, loses the team a Sci ship but has a better ability to kill cloakers on its own.
Maybe one day you will be bold enough to defend the federation in arena 5v5s!
Then prove me wrong and I will be very happy that you prove me wrong. HOBO and ISC usually shows up in number sometimes between 8PM - 12 AM EST every night. You come during this time, it's almost a sure bet you'll run into several of them. Nerds of Prey is less regular, but sometime after 9PM, they can show up in big numbers as well.
Next time, when I see a huge number of Klinks in a ball, I will make a point of letting the major public channels know. Though I am sure we won't be seeing any Panda. Never have been ever since I start playing STO and I see no reason why it will suddenly change either.
All right, getting tired of this.
Ultimatum doesn't just have friends that do this. He actively helps them test it. We all help each other test things like SDRvStealth, and ID vs GravGens, or CMS v Sensors. You're barking way up the wrong tree buddy, the cat you're looking for isn't up that one, but nice try.
Because Pandas enjoy team-based PvP (not PvPvE) and the best place to do that is in the Arena queues. Ker'rat is mostly for lulz, but we do spend a lot of time there, as individuals, not a premade. Premades in Ker'rat are just uncalled for. I know HOBOs and ISC do it, we don't, it's that simple.
Using a Sci ship as a snooper is not ideal because being the best snooper is not about the highest SDR. As one of the most hated snoopers by Klinks in Kerrat, I can tell you if you fly a Sci ship or say a fleet Nebula into Kerrat thinking you are going to decloak some Klinks. lolno, that ship is going to be toast in seconds. And if it's dead, it can't do much snooping, obviously. The reasoning is simple. There is currently no Sci ship in any faction that allows them to engage in full scanning mode while cloaked. Assuming your opponents are competent Klink PvP fleets, the first thing they will do is to keep a great distance from that snooper who will have a bulls eye sign printed on it. Then, they will watch for buffs on that ship and come in with coordinated alphas and immediately kill that snooper. The way HOBO ambushes is there is usually one single unkillable tank out in the open, sometimes 2, with 5~6 ships cloaked nearby. Having a Sci ship acting as snooper simply wont' fly. Even if you get a Romulan Sci ship, that vessel cannot scan under cloak so it can't snoop while cloaked. The 1 or 2 tank cruisers will probably have lots Elite Interceptors around and spamming AA all over the place, making your coordinated team effort to save that snooper very difficult. And there will be more ships watching in the dark, ready to ambush. So picture this, Elite Interceptors out in force and you can't FAW because AA will make sure you kill yourself first. Your Sci snooper will die in the next 2 seconds. What do you do? HOBO are accustomed to the Kerrat environment with Zelda sometimes leading the charge. If Panda shows up in Kerrat in a 5 man team thinking they can just turn Kerrat war zone into yet another Arena match, they are going to get creamed by HOBO totally.
Now it's my turn.
"lolno" if you think I was talking about the Nebula, you are wrong.
Interesting theory.
I think at this point I'll let you continue to post stuff and I'll join all the others that have the good sense to ignore it.
It doesn't matter how they try to sugar coat it and no matter all these exaggerated claims of superior teamwork, the fact is they can't be functional outside of a pre-defined 5 vs 5 environment. Not even in C&H, which is quite telling. In comparison, HOBO also does C&H. In this sense, as much as I hate HOBO, they have my respect in this regard as they are a real team who adapt to different situations, even when they are being outnumbered. Most battles don't fight on even numbers for both sides but I suppose some people can never leave the simulator for the real battlefield...
"say a fleet Nebula"
In English, this means "as an example but not limited to"
I know sharing practical application is beyond your theoretical understanding. I am providing you with feedback in good faith, you replied in insults. It's quite telling why you can't hold a conversation from this point forward.
I promised myself I wouldn't respond to you, but I'm having a low willpower day!
You are still wrong, I'm not talking about the Fleet Nebula.
Take a look in the mirror, many of your posts are laden with insults.
Not that you actually listen, but reality is that Kerrat and C&H are just for the luls for us.
When pandas have shown up there as a loose team, we get no end of grief about it. (I think the last C&H one guy took screenshots and threatened to report us for destroying all the KDF turrets)
Just because other fleets think its fun to roflstomp C&H or Kerrat, doesn't mean we do. Just like how other fleets sometimes run nothing but 3+ TIF wells powered clicky console cheesefests and we don't.
Most of us only do C&H when it's the daily.
Challenge accepted!
Actually I think we should dust off the KDF fleet and go Fed hunting instead. :P
Where is that side switching glitch when you need it?