I mean, 9 consoles suggest there will be an "upgraded" version sometime in the future anyway. Secondary Deflector doesn't make up for this, as it was said it was planned to be added to all science ships eventually.
OR ... You will find that secondary deflectors are specifically that ... secondary deflectors where the main ones don't fit.
Opens up another channel for them and things to put in the next new fleet holding (likely where the fleet version of this ship will be as well).
Also ... betting the other sci ships will get a secondary deflector just like the cruisers got the cruiser powers.
And then just like you would buy power cores ... you will now buy secondary deflectors.
All speculation but betting its true.
Makes sense with retrofitting a second deflector - almost all of the models already have two built in anyway, so it wouldn't be outside the range of possibility.
Anyone else notice that with the exception of the proton cannon ... She's armed with all beams? ... I'm worried she will not run dual heavies except for the proton one ... hoping I'm wrong on that one.
Also ... wondering if you can do like the vet ship and stick her in tac mode primarily and leave her there.
And. .... If you can swap out the proton cannon for another brand.
I mean, 9 consoles suggest there will be an "upgraded" version sometime in the future anyway. Secondary Deflector doesn't make up for this, as it was said it was planned to be added to all science ships eventually.
It sounds picky, but all I hope is that they don't keep those colours for all the ships ... Fed is ok with black/grey/white/blue, but my OCD says that Klink ships need to be brown/red/green and Rommie ships need to be aqua/teal/green ...
Oh and the "Tactical Mode" might be something like the Saucer pet function? Maybe we'll get a little animation, like the saucer opening to reveal the DHC's or a turret will appear out of the "nose" or maybe ... finally ... Nacelles that curl up!
And hopefully not too much of a "grind" ... I'm one of the many "night quickie/weekend warriors" who play STO, so if it's 5 hours a day for 15 days ... Back to my Gal-X
I am impressed by the complexity of the model. Do the artists work with a subdivision tool or is it all hand-crafted? Probably a dumb question from someone who merely dabbles in renders.
Generally, since ships share versatile materials, we do not create high-poly models then bake them down onto low poly. With the way we do it, we can create a much higher texile density, and significantly reduce ram usage, as well as promote complex customization.
Yes, the ships would look better if they had a unique unwrap & texture, but there's always a tradeoff. The character team & environment team regularly create high-poly models then bake them onto lower-poly models. If we ever do this, it's usually for a specific part on the overall material. So, yes, we hand-craft the ships, usually starting from various primitive geometry objects.
It sounds picky, but all I hope is that they don't keep those colours for all the ships ... Fed is ok with black/grey/white/blue, but my OCD says that Klink ships need to be brown/red/green and Rommie ships need to be aqua/teal/green ...
Oh and the "Tactical Mode" might be something like the Saucer pet function? Maybe we'll get a little animation, like the saucer opening to reveal the DHC's or a turret will appear out of the "nose" or maybe ... finally ... Nacelles that curl up!
And hopefully not too much of a "grind" ... I'm one of the many "night quickie/weekend warriors" who play STO, so if it's 5 hours a day for 15 days ... Back to my Gal-X
If you look at the concept art in the blog, there's a pic of the Fed transformation. Basically the primary hull is split open in Sci mode to reveal the second deflector, and closed together in Tac mode to uncover the DHCs. I'm glad to see more transformation animations on the new ships lately - they take extra work, but the cool factor is not to be underestimated.
The screenshot indicates that this only has 9 consoles. A ship worth grinding for, regardless of all its other funky special space magic abiltiies, is expected to have 10 these days. Are these going to have 10 on release, or are we going to be expected to ALSO pay for a fleet version? Cause if the latter, that's very rude, considering how the last two anniversary ships worked.
Zoom in on the bottom right of the screenshot that shows console layout.
Only 4 bo seats.........:mad:
Not quite, there is one seat that is having its slots hidden, which is somewhat of a bug on Tribble, I think, still. The missing bridge officer slots belong to the bridge officer right next to and on the left of Veril.
While i see the mesh is usually decent enough i always feel the textures are low res and generally the lighting with the way they set up the maps make them look far too bright and it can be hard to find the details with spec maps. I hope they can improve this somewhat in the future as imo theres no real reason why you couldnt up the res a bit more as typically they shouldnt make the system requirements that much higher due to the settings window i.e high details section which of course would be for high spec systems while the low spec systems could use a lod down on the textures and it would be fine with their systems.
One new ship that i saw in a dev blog about the undine tho that has me baffled is the battleship. Its textures are terrible. Why? I could make a generic texture that wrapped around the ship better in ps in 2 mins that would look more detailed and sharper instead of the low res and very pixelated texture you have used. I just dont know what to think of your artists when they do that its just like the voth ships, they too look very poorly made texture wise i have to wonder on the artist that made them.
Another thing i wish to see is a non standard engine trail. Because imo they are far too long and they dont belong on cap ships. Smaller ones would suit much better. Look at homeworld for the difference in cap ship trails vs fighter trails. Something like that would make much more sense in the game and be more canon.
Ruinsfate, yeah i guess it will be a 9 console ship and their will be a fleet version planned for later release with 10 consoles and slightly improved stats. Its the way most of these go these days afaik.
LOL! You all are so silly with comments like this :P This blog has been planned since last month (and written way before yesterday's screenshot from Tribble) as also revealed in CaptainSmirk's section and my post here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14108911&postcount=67
There is no way a blog like this could be written, produced, localized, etc. in 24 hours.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Regardless, you could have changed the timing of the blog's release to put out the flames, and you knew full well that this new rommie sci destroyer would make us drool. BAD BRANDON, BAD!!!
That being said, I still think obtaining them should be a little easier. There shouldn't be a 24 hour cooldown period for grinding for them. It should be more to the tune of the mission cooldown timer resets every 2-4 hours and possibly reduce the amount of grinding you have to do for them.
I' m going onto a limb here and say that I don't think there will be a Fleet Verison, the reason it has 9 consoles is the inherant transformation ability, from Sci to Destroyer, effectively counts as a console equavilant, but inheriant to the ship and unchangable. There is presidence for this amoung Fleet BoPs some of which do not have 10 consoles.
I so will get this ships on all 11 of my characters ( 6 fed, 2 Rom, 4 kling )
Its so absolutely awsome !!!
AWSOME I SAY !!!!!
ENDLESS COOOOOOOOOLLLL
Ehem.
Love you guys, you guys made my days, weeks, months *squeeeeeeeeeee*
Generally, since ships share versatile materials, we do not create high-poly models then bake them down onto low poly. With the way we do it, we can create a much higher texile density, and significantly reduce ram usage, as well as promote complex customization.
Yes, the ships would look better if they had a unique unwrap & texture, but there's always a tradeoff. The character team & environment team regularly create high-poly models then bake them onto lower-poly models. If we ever do this, it's usually for a specific part on the overall material. So, yes, we hand-craft the ships, usually starting from various primitive geometry objects.
From someone who made a shell for a Jaguar E-type (love the model) and a Plymouth Prowler, I say great job on the models guys! Love to see the good old polygons again .
Oeh, and i love the codes! Almost looked like I was back at work :P.
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
Regardless, you could have changed the timing of the blog's release to put out the flames, and you knew full well that this new rommie sci destroyer would make us drool. BAD BRANDON, BAD!!!
That being said, I still think obtaining them should be a little easier. There shouldn't be a 24 hour cooldown period for grinding for them. It should be more to the tune of the mission cooldown timer resets every 2-4 hours and possibly reduce the amount of grinding you have to do for them.
We don't even know how long the cooldown for the daily will be, so saying that it's going to be 24 hours is a little premature.
Wait, wait, wait... what's this ChildBone and ChildLayer I see referenced in the one pic? What the heck are you building these ships out of? IT'S PEOPLE!!! DYSON HYBRID SHIPS ARE PEOPLE!!!
I' m going onto a limb here and say that I don't think there will be a Fleet Verison, the reason it has 9 consoles is the inherant transformation ability, from Sci to Destroyer, effectively counts as a console equavilant, but inheriant to the ship and unchangable. There is presidence for this amoung Fleet BoPs some of which do not have 10 consoles.
If that is true than why get this ship at all? All it is is flexible with only 9 consoles.
Whats going to be the mechanic to keep everybody from running in tactical mode?
Why would you need one? Sci ships have their uses, and being able to swap over and use Gravity Well III/Scramble III, sensor analysis and subsystem targeting, which I am assuming stop working in Tac mode. Even if they don't, commander Sci abilities are no joke, it would be worth swapping back and forth to use them.
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But you'll have to grind as you'll need the transformation console if you want the upgraded model.
That's the fear at this point and how you end up over a barrel.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
Makes sense with retrofitting a second deflector - almost all of the models already have two built in anyway, so it wouldn't be outside the range of possibility.
Also ... wondering if you can do like the vet ship and stick her in tac mode primarily and leave her there.
And. .... If you can swap out the proton cannon for another brand.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
Personally I am not afraid of a little work and don't need things handed to me for just showing up. Maybe that's just me, tho.
There has been some great stuff on CollegeHumor about that very subject lately.
Oh and the "Tactical Mode" might be something like the Saucer pet function? Maybe we'll get a little animation, like the saucer opening to reveal the DHC's or a turret will appear out of the "nose" or maybe ... finally ... Nacelles that curl up!
And hopefully not too much of a "grind" ... I'm one of the many "night quickie/weekend warriors" who play STO, so if it's 5 hours a day for 15 days ... Back to my Gal-X
Those ships though, oh my....drool.....
Need to be Fleet level 10 console ships though, I don't use anything else these days.
Generally, since ships share versatile materials, we do not create high-poly models then bake them down onto low poly. With the way we do it, we can create a much higher texile density, and significantly reduce ram usage, as well as promote complex customization.
Yes, the ships would look better if they had a unique unwrap & texture, but there's always a tradeoff. The character team & environment team regularly create high-poly models then bake them onto lower-poly models. If we ever do this, it's usually for a specific part on the overall material. So, yes, we hand-craft the ships, usually starting from various primitive geometry objects.
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If you look at the concept art in the blog, there's a pic of the Fed transformation. Basically the primary hull is split open in Sci mode to reveal the second deflector, and closed together in Tac mode to uncover the DHCs. I'm glad to see more transformation animations on the new ships lately - they take extra work, but the cool factor is not to be underestimated.
Zoom in on the bottom right of the screenshot that shows console layout.
Only 4 bo seats.........:mad:
That's awesome.
Which leads me to believe that she will only have room for one dual cannon ... right where the proton sits.
As if she had more, you couldn't fire them in science mode as the cannon ports are buried in that mode.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
The screenshot indicates that this only has 9 consoles. A ship worth grinding for, regardless of all its other funky special space magic abiltiies, is expected to have 10 these days. Are these going to have 10 on release, or are we going to be expected to ALSO pay for a fleet version? Cause if the latter, that's very rude, considering how the last two anniversary ships worked.
high level science abilities.
Escort ships in general??
If you don't change it there is 0 reason to fly it over an escort.
One new ship that i saw in a dev blog about the undine tho that has me baffled is the battleship. Its textures are terrible. Why? I could make a generic texture that wrapped around the ship better in ps in 2 mins that would look more detailed and sharper instead of the low res and very pixelated texture you have used. I just dont know what to think of your artists when they do that its just like the voth ships, they too look very poorly made texture wise i have to wonder on the artist that made them.
Another thing i wish to see is a non standard engine trail. Because imo they are far too long and they dont belong on cap ships. Smaller ones would suit much better. Look at homeworld for the difference in cap ship trails vs fighter trails. Something like that would make much more sense in the game and be more canon.
Ruinsfate, yeah i guess it will be a 9 console ship and their will be a fleet version planned for later release with 10 consoles and slightly improved stats. Its the way most of these go these days afaik.
Regardless, you could have changed the timing of the blog's release to put out the flames, and you knew full well that this new rommie sci destroyer would make us drool. BAD BRANDON, BAD!!!
That being said, I still think obtaining them should be a little easier. There shouldn't be a 24 hour cooldown period for grinding for them. It should be more to the tune of the mission cooldown timer resets every 2-4 hours and possibly reduce the amount of grinding you have to do for them.
Its so absolutely awsome !!!
AWSOME I SAY !!!!!
ENDLESS COOOOOOOOOLLLL
Ehem.
Love you guys, you guys made my days, weeks, months *squeeeeeeeeeee*
From someone who made a shell for a Jaguar E-type (love the model) and a Plymouth Prowler, I say great job on the models guys! Love to see the good old polygons again
Oeh, and i love the codes! Almost looked like I was back at work :P.
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
So this leaves me wondering when the Republicans/Tories started designing Starships for Dyson Joint Command? ;p
*looks both ways*
...
*Backs out the door*
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Most cd in this game are 20 which i think is great cos most ppl cant log oon the sametime
If that is true than why get this ship at all? All it is is flexible with only 9 consoles.
Not much room for flexible in a game of min\max.
It needs a fleet version with a 4th TAC slot.
Why would you need one? Sci ships have their uses, and being able to swap over and use Gravity Well III/Scramble III, sensor analysis and subsystem targeting, which I am assuming stop working in Tac mode. Even if they don't, commander Sci abilities are no joke, it would be worth swapping back and forth to use them.
Game changer.
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