That said, I can empathize with our ship collectors out there though, and so does the team, and is why we continue to talk about this and consider your feedback. The event is not live yet, so anything is subject to change. Heck, the blogs about the event are not even out yet Whether something changes or not, the feedback from this thread was strongly, and will continue to be, considered. You are our players, you are the reason you are here and why the game continues to exist. You are important to us, and so are your feelings.
With respect to this (highlighted), would it not be more ... practical for certain event details to be released a little earlier? Ship stats and images don't need to come until a week before release, but the teams intentions could do with being seen earlier.
The feedback here is a good example of that. The team made their plans and let everyone know, now (most people) are kicking off about it as they're unhappy. If the team wishes to please those people (some of them at least, you'll never please everyone) they're going to have to make some quick and sudden changes to the way they planned to implement the event.
If some details of the event were released earlier, then they'd get their feedback earlier and would have more time to assess the situation and make the relevant changes. As it stands, you guys have a week to essentially fix it for the community. Isn't that a rush? Wouldn't said fix take time away from other ongoing projects?
I'm a ship collector and have over 20 toons at this point (been playing since launch). I would like to own these ships but I'm not going to grind for them.
As you mentioned "You were an ordinary player once" -- I actually still am an ordinary player, playing every night to get up my reps, contribute inputs to my fleet, work on my builds, etc. I started working here in Nov. 2011, and just like everyone else at that time, I had to work towards my drops in the STFs. After 300+ runs of IGE, I finally got my PSG. I ran IGE multiple times a night until that happened.
<smiles>
Regarding the ships, I know that my Fed Engineer is going to continue flying his Recluse, so I am not planning on running the project for him. Same for my KDF Tactical. However, I am very interested in some of my other characters flying this ship, so I'll run it on them.
And you make a fair point that others have made somewhat more aggresively. Nobody has to grind this out for any of their toons.
I will say though, that these ships have been made to be as desireable as possible. And they truly are interesting. I think there is a legitimate question about power creep, but thats another issue.
However, why do these ships have to be ground for now?
I can honestly say that if the summer event of Risa had, somehow, these ships for rewards I'd have absolutely no objection.
The timing of this grind is extremely and predictably unfortunate.
That said, I can empathize with our ship collectors out there though, and so does the team, and is why we continue to talk about this and consider your feedback. The event is not live yet, so anything is subject to change. Heck, the blogs about the event are not even out yet Whether something changes or not, the feedback from this thread was strongly, and will continue to be, considered. You are our players, you are the reason you are here and why the game continues to exist. You are important to us, and so are your feelings.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Given that a wholesale reorganisation is probably impossible at this point, please allow me to suggest a few ways to lessen the grind.
1. Qmmendations are a lovely pun, but make them interchangeable with Q glossies. Q really doesn't need two currencies and it'd allow players to lessen this grind with resources from the WW.
2. Bite the bullet and do for QM what you've done for lobi. Make it account, rather than character bound. Thus the player that can only get on at the weekend can still get this ship by combining resources from multiple toons.
3. Reduce the cooldown on the daily, even making it every 6 hours would help.
4. Currently you can buy, with 5 lobi, 2-6 of these sort of resources. That is a bit stingy, 5 lobi getting you 5 QM would be better, as it'd remove the gamble if one was using a limited amount of lobi.
And with respect and apologies.........
You are our developers, you are the reason we are here and why the game continues to exist. You are important to us, and so are your decisions.
Wait, are the grind ships 9 console ones? I thought they would be 10 console ships like the Breen one.
They appear to be 9 consoles ones ... which is why I believe a fleet version of all of them will be released in due course, likely at the Spire Tier #3 level.
so Brandon, you might as well of reposted your post from yesterday, cause it was basically the same thing..
as far as the other giveaways, it doesn't matter, I mean unless its better than the ship.. the idea of the anniversary event (that people have been talking about for months now) is that we get a ship, which is the most popular thing in the game (ships).. a thank you if you will, not another stressfull (oh sh*t, ive got to make sure I log in for 16 days straight to get it.. and jeese, I hope the 2 feet of snow that is predicted doesn't knock power out for a few days and what not lol..) and as far as it being only a little grind.. weve grinded for a year, its time to let us have a vacation that rewards us something..
ontop of that, last year we got a ship, a costume, q's little leveling boost, accolades, and the party popper thing.. and past years were similier.. the obelisk was a nice surprise, I didn't like the mission all that much, but I genuinely said, "hey, they care" and I don't say that often..
that is the precident that was set.. that is what I expect out of the anniversary event.. and all we had to do was one (friggen awesome) mission..
ive said it before through out the years.. cryptic is constantly testing the boundries of what they can get away with.. and this time, its gone too far..
and as far as anything is changeable, well that is a load of horse TRIBBLE, cause firstly, the past has shown us that cryptic isn't really all that flexible, even when the community doesn't like something, you just force feed us it anyways, and the devs barely know how to tie their shoes without messing something up ingame, so I don't see them even trying to change how the event works..
I cant remember anyone saying, oh yay, I love grind.. please, release this in its grinding state.. no, I seem to remember a lot of opposition to the grind.. yet, we get more and more and more..
and remember, there is a difference between repeatable over a long term, and repeatable short term.. id much rather have weekly stuff, than daily. that way I do my grind, 2-3 times a week, and can enjoy the things I actually enjoy about the game the rest of the time.. cause that is what this is after all, a game.. not a chore, or a job...
After reading the blog and getting a feel for the ships themselves...I'm still not convinced unfortunately. The ships really do look awesome and it would work great on my Fed sci, but the 15 day grind still puts me off. For the record, I haven't done any of the event ship grinds. I have no breen ships and no corvette. They looked fun to play with, but not for the amount of effort required in my opinion.
However, I realize that it's a bit late in the development schedule to do drastic changes. So I'd like to offer a compromise: Reduce the 15 days to 7 days this time around. I'm of the opinion that no event should take more than a week to finish up. This goes with my earlier post about events being a nice break/diversion from the daily grinds. Just something nice for a week to play around and goof off. This is largely how the other MMOs I've played have handled it and I like that style much better. This would also give those who have less time to play a better chance at getting the ships. A month long event that only needs 1 week total should be adequate I believe.
If you captain a ship, you're a captain. Don't have to do with rank. In other words, there are two definitions to "captain"... one is rank, and the other is commanding officer of a ship.
If you captain a ship, you're a captain. Don't have to do with rank. In other words, there are two definitions to "captain"... one is rank, and the other is commanding officer of a ship.
if i do recall right in last EP of TNG hole time Riker is in command of the Galaxy X he is called Admiral not captain even on the bridge again if i do recall right
if i do recall right in last EP of TNG hole time Riker is in command of the Galaxy X he is called Admiral not captain even on the bridge again if i do recall right
I'm not a Navy person, but iirc an Admiral can be stationed on a ship Captained by a..er..Captain.
In the interests of giving useful feedback I'm going to lay out how I approach these kinds of events, in the hopes that other people will affirm what I am saying and so that it makes sense.
When I am using a character in a multi-day event, like the Winter Event, I recognize that it can take a certain amount of time to get from point A to point B. Add in stops at the Bank or Exchange, and it gets even longer.
Because I know I have limited time to earn the rewards, because I have limited play time before wife aggro kicks in, and because I am likely going to run this event on multiple characters I pretty much "park" those characters at the starting point for the event.
If I don't, I run the risk that I will run out of time and won't be able to collect what I need to finish the event.
I did nothing else with those characters, except DOFFing. This past Winter Event, I had three characters who barely ever left ESD/Qo'Nos. I logged them on, I ran the race, I sometimes did some of the other activities for awhile, and I logged out. I didn't use up any time going from point A to point B. It would have been a lot harder if the Winter Wonderland didn't have convenient Bank services.
My 2 boys were running the event with me, one at a time since we only have two laptops. Likewise, they never left the event the whole time. Unlike me, they don't have all of those handy transwarp destinations and slipstream drives to fall back on yet. They did not progress in the storyline, they did not level like they would have if they had been running the normal mission progression. Some nights (some of those were school nights) we basically did the race and got out.
Is it any wonder that we get tired of events by the time they're over?
Sure, we could have done other stuff, too. But that would have involved all of that point A to point B travel time. It definitely would've had a negative influence on marital bliss. And, like I said, there were many nights we simply didn't have time to do more than race. The boys had to get the hang of the ice track at first, and had to redo it 3-4 tries a night.
During that time, I didn't earn a lot of dilithium. I didn't earn a lot of fleet marks. Most of my non-Event Reputations came to a standstill. Choosing to make these events a priority means that I am not doing other things that earns the resources I need to build my characters and my fleet, or helping my boys to level up to 50.
That's what I'm reacting to. I was looking forward to a fun, quick, no-stress anniversary mission where my boys get a free ship to fly when they get to level 50. Because that's been the precedent set up until now. I give Cryptic money on a regular basis, so it's not like I'm not supporting the game and crying for freebies at Cryptic's expense.
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if i do recall right in last EP of TNG hole time Riker is in command of the Galaxy X he is called Admiral not captain even on the bridge again if i do recall right
...and? That doesn't exactly contradict the fact that he was an admiral by rank and a captain by status.
Ok... I am gonna bit... heck, I will even try to "forgive" (in lack of a better word) you guys this time around...
That said:
Start doing something different. This whole come-back-and-do-the-same-x-times... It's too much.
Look... remember the mission "Spin the wheel"..? Do that... Missions like that... Basic do-and-get missions, where you have to fix something for the production of the ship.
I mean, we can do these really simple missions in the foundry in 10 - 15 minutes, and I HAVE to assume Cryptic have significantly better tools (not that it takes much), so do it...
Make the easy missions, that take 10-15 minutes to make, and have a new one each day, or 15 rotating ones...
Believe it or not... doing this could have saved you the back-fire you are experiencing right now..
Or give some of the best foundry creators X-Zen pr mission they would offer for you to implement in such a chain...
SOMETHING different than the same bloody mission every day.
As someone who has Brandon on his Friendlist,I can 100% confirm he plays a LOT....he is a player just like us,he just gets all the insider info :P
In the interests of giving useful feedback I'm going to lay out how I approach these kinds of events, in the hopes that other people will affirm what I am saying and so that it makes sense.
When I am using a character in a multi-day event, like the Winter Event, I recognize that it can take a certain amount of time to get from point A to point B. Add in stops at the Bank or Exchange, and it gets even longer.
Because I know I have limited time to earn the rewards, because I have limited play time before wife aggro kicks in, and because I am likely going to run this event on multiple characters I pretty much "park" those characters at the starting point for the event.
I did nothing else with those characters, except DOFFing. This past Winter Event, I had three characters who barely ever left ESD/Qo'Nos. I logged them on, I ran the race, I sometimes did some of the other activities for awhile, and I logged out. I didn't use up any time going from point A to point B. It would have been a lot harder if the Winter Wonderland didn't have convenient Bank services.
My 2 boys were running the event with me, one at a time since we only have two laptops. Likewise, they never left the event the whole time. Unlike me, they don't have all of those handy transwarp destinations and slipstream drives to fall back on yet. They did not progress in the storyline, they did not level like they would have if they had been running the normal mission progression. Some nights (some of those were school nights) we basically did the race and got out.
Is it any wonder that we get tired of events by the time they're over?
Sure, we could have done other stuff, too. But that would have involved all of that point A to point B travel time. It definitely would've had a negative influence on marital bliss. And, like I said, there were many nights we simply didn't have time to do more than race. The boys had to get the hang of the ice track at first, and had to redo it 3-4 tries a night.
During that time, I didn't earn a lot of dilithium. I didn't earn a lot of fleet marks. Most of my non-Event Reputations came to a standstill. Choosing to make these events a priority means that I am not doing other things that earns the resources I need to build my characters and my fleet, or helping my boys to level up to 50.
That's what I'm reacting to. I was looking forward to a fun, quick, no-stress anniversary mission where my boys get a free ship to fly when they get to level 50. Because that's been the precedent set up until now. I give Cryptic money on a regular basis, so it's not like I'm not supporting the game and crying for freebies at Cryptic's expense.
Very well put, bluegeek. I completely agree with you.
I also agree with one of your previous posts where you stated that this would be better if there were more things which could be done in order to 'earn' the ships, to be perfectly honest - personally it's not the effort itself that puts me off, it's the same repetitive activity many times over a short period of time. That is not, by any descrption, fun.
However, I still maintain that a gift should be given out of the kindness of one's heart and not 'earned'.
Having read more about this and the new mechanic, I think I'll just stick to grinding for my fleet Intrepid, which should be available shortly after this anyway for my fleet.
That's what I'm reacting to. I was looking forward to a fun, quick, no-stress anniversary mission where my boys get a free ship to fly when they get to level 50. Because that's been the precedent set up until now. I give Cryptic money on a regular basis, so it's not like I'm not supporting the game and crying for freebies at Cryptic's expense.
This is the real crux of the matter for me.
It's not the ships, they look lovely.
It's not compulsory.
It's not even the quality of what we'll have to grind, thats yet to be known.
It's the timing.
These sort of events always get the community's attention, the rewards are designed to be highly desireable.
Thus, it is predictable, that if ones circumstances prevent being able to grind it out, one will be proportionally more disappointed.
You can get away with a couple of events like that a year, because there's only a couple of them and they're spaced well apart.
But failing to recognise the problems with the grind for many players, and failing to see how this timing sucks, are what needs to be acknowledged.
There have been a number of good suggestions made to lessen the impact of this event, I think we all know its too late to change direction in a substantial way, but perhaps things can be mitigated.
Bran, I hope and trust, will take those concerns on to the devs.
Frankly, its all we can hope for. Maybe they'll get it or maybe they wont.
While I am not adverse to doing a little bit of work for a fun ship, would it be possible to make the ship a faction wide account unlock (unlocking it for current characters only)? This way you still have to do the work, but not have to do it for every character on a single faction, as well as looking at the event from the view of each faction. Doing a daily thing isn't that bad, but doing it for multiple characters characters will kill the novelty of the event (you would only run it 3 times/day with this proposal). For those that have only one or two characters this isn't a problem, but for people who have multiple characters, it can be tedious and turns what should be interesting and new, into a hateful grind.
Some notes on the seasonal event:
I found I vastly preferred the summer event to the winter event, especially when it came to extra things in the zone. I found the Winter event to be just tedious, even with the new things added (I did like the new costume things). The breen ship really wasn't my cup of tea, and the idea of running the race for a bunch of characters, and removing an alternative method of epohh tag acquisition killed my motivation. Making the tags an all or nothing (well two, compared to the twelve for winning) made acquiring the tags annoying and frustrating exercise that was on a timetable. Since it was competitive, it turned minor mechanics such as jumping into 'OMG exploits". Not everyone is into the competition thing.
The summer event was much better thought out it seemed to me.
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING!!
PLEASE NO MORE GRINDING I've just had enough of reputation systems and I really want a break from grinding and just want to have fun I'm so sick of grinding :mad:
Give us more from the daily than just the tokens. For 2-5 minutes throw us 500 dilithum and some ec as well.
Or let us get our once a day Dyson rep token from it.
It does not feel as grindy if you actually get something from it every day.
Please, you are not helping at all, 1 Dyson rep token for a year of grinding on anniversary event you are joking it right.
We all deserve our free ship, and Cryptic is just playing stupid with new head of Dev on team.
Did he even played STO since he left Cryptic? Now he has come back and shooting his guns of TRIBBLE like John Wayne, and setting the rules and harassing players.
Where is the gratitude for players? We feed them practically and holding this game alive for 4 years.
That said, I can empathize with our ship collectors out there though, and so does the team, and is why we continue to talk about this and consider your feedback. The event is not live yet, so anything is subject to change. Heck, the blogs about the event are not even out yet Whether something changes or not, the feedback from this thread was strongly, and will continue to be, considered. You are our players, you are the reason you are here and why the game continues to exist. You are important to us, and so are your feelings.
Considering feedback we were actually never supposed to give (until it would have been to late)? Well, for what it's worth: I'd prefer the old setup of a free teaser variant and a paid cstore variant like to odyssey or fleet variant like the ambassador (and their equivalents).
This way everyone got a new ship to fly as thank you for playing STO as part of the anniversary, while you guys could still monetize your work with the upgraded full variant.
However I'm strongly against the grind setup planned for this year. As much as I dislike the Summer/Winter event grind. Sure, STO has a lot of content meant to be replayed a lot of times. And I don't mind. But those events are different: We're not replaying a STF, fighting the borg - we're just doing some silly, pointless task. That's not earning something - it's just wasting time. Don't do this once again, the anniversary should be a time to celebrate, not an excuse to introduce another grind.
To further clarify for the devs. I have no ship slots left, so to use this I would either need to buy more slots or hope that this slot expansion cokes with more free slots. The described mechanic, with the ships I have already, isn't really enough to make me want to get this.
My fleet intrepid and sovereign on the other hand I dont need more a lot a for since I can swap my cstore ship for the fleet one. So for a 15 day grind, its not worth it.
And as pointed out by others, this is not really a great way to deal with something that should be a celebration.
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With respect to this (highlighted), would it not be more ... practical for certain event details to be released a little earlier? Ship stats and images don't need to come until a week before release, but the teams intentions could do with being seen earlier.
The feedback here is a good example of that. The team made their plans and let everyone know, now (most people) are kicking off about it as they're unhappy. If the team wishes to please those people (some of them at least, you'll never please everyone) they're going to have to make some quick and sudden changes to the way they planned to implement the event.
If some details of the event were released earlier, then they'd get their feedback earlier and would have more time to assess the situation and make the relevant changes. As it stands, you guys have a week to essentially fix it for the community. Isn't that a rush? Wouldn't said fix take time away from other ongoing projects?
<smiles>
And you make a fair point that others have made somewhat more aggresively. Nobody has to grind this out for any of their toons.
I will say though, that these ships have been made to be as desireable as possible. And they truly are interesting. I think there is a legitimate question about power creep, but thats another issue.
However, why do these ships have to be ground for now?
I can honestly say that if the summer event of Risa had, somehow, these ships for rewards I'd have absolutely no objection.
The timing of this grind is extremely and predictably unfortunate.
Given that a wholesale reorganisation is probably impossible at this point, please allow me to suggest a few ways to lessen the grind.
1. Qmmendations are a lovely pun, but make them interchangeable with Q glossies. Q really doesn't need two currencies and it'd allow players to lessen this grind with resources from the WW.
2. Bite the bullet and do for QM what you've done for lobi. Make it account, rather than character bound. Thus the player that can only get on at the weekend can still get this ship by combining resources from multiple toons.
3. Reduce the cooldown on the daily, even making it every 6 hours would help.
4. Currently you can buy, with 5 lobi, 2-6 of these sort of resources. That is a bit stingy, 5 lobi getting you 5 QM would be better, as it'd remove the gamble if one was using a limited amount of lobi.
And with respect and apologies.........
You are our developers, you are the reason we are here and why the game continues to exist. You are important to us, and so are your decisions.
Cheers,
Rinkster
Unless you are an Admiral.
so Brandon, you might as well of reposted your post from yesterday, cause it was basically the same thing..
as far as the other giveaways, it doesn't matter, I mean unless its better than the ship.. the idea of the anniversary event (that people have been talking about for months now) is that we get a ship, which is the most popular thing in the game (ships).. a thank you if you will, not another stressfull (oh sh*t, ive got to make sure I log in for 16 days straight to get it.. and jeese, I hope the 2 feet of snow that is predicted doesn't knock power out for a few days and what not lol..) and as far as it being only a little grind.. weve grinded for a year, its time to let us have a vacation that rewards us something..
ontop of that, last year we got a ship, a costume, q's little leveling boost, accolades, and the party popper thing.. and past years were similier.. the obelisk was a nice surprise, I didn't like the mission all that much, but I genuinely said, "hey, they care" and I don't say that often..
that is the precident that was set.. that is what I expect out of the anniversary event.. and all we had to do was one (friggen awesome) mission..
ive said it before through out the years.. cryptic is constantly testing the boundries of what they can get away with.. and this time, its gone too far..
and as far as anything is changeable, well that is a load of horse TRIBBLE, cause firstly, the past has shown us that cryptic isn't really all that flexible, even when the community doesn't like something, you just force feed us it anyways, and the devs barely know how to tie their shoes without messing something up ingame, so I don't see them even trying to change how the event works..
I cant remember anyone saying, oh yay, I love grind.. please, release this in its grinding state.. no, I seem to remember a lot of opposition to the grind.. yet, we get more and more and more..
and remember, there is a difference between repeatable over a long term, and repeatable short term.. id much rather have weekly stuff, than daily. that way I do my grind, 2-3 times a week, and can enjoy the things I actually enjoy about the game the rest of the time.. cause that is what this is after all, a game.. not a chore, or a job...
After reading the blog and getting a feel for the ships themselves...I'm still not convinced unfortunately. The ships really do look awesome and it would work great on my Fed sci, but the 15 day grind still puts me off. For the record, I haven't done any of the event ship grinds. I have no breen ships and no corvette. They looked fun to play with, but not for the amount of effort required in my opinion.
However, I realize that it's a bit late in the development schedule to do drastic changes. So I'd like to offer a compromise: Reduce the 15 days to 7 days this time around. I'm of the opinion that no event should take more than a week to finish up. This goes with my earlier post about events being a nice break/diversion from the daily grinds. Just something nice for a week to play around and goof off. This is largely how the other MMOs I've played have handled it and I like that style much better. This would also give those who have less time to play a better chance at getting the ships. A month long event that only needs 1 week total should be adequate I believe.
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if i do recall right in last EP of TNG hole time Riker is in command of the Galaxy X he is called Admiral not captain even on the bridge again if i do recall right
system Lord Baal is dead
I'm not a Navy person, but iirc an Admiral can be stationed on a ship Captained by a..er..Captain.
When I am using a character in a multi-day event, like the Winter Event, I recognize that it can take a certain amount of time to get from point A to point B. Add in stops at the Bank or Exchange, and it gets even longer.
Because I know I have limited time to earn the rewards, because I have limited play time before wife aggro kicks in, and because I am likely going to run this event on multiple characters I pretty much "park" those characters at the starting point for the event.
If I don't, I run the risk that I will run out of time and won't be able to collect what I need to finish the event.
I did nothing else with those characters, except DOFFing. This past Winter Event, I had three characters who barely ever left ESD/Qo'Nos. I logged them on, I ran the race, I sometimes did some of the other activities for awhile, and I logged out. I didn't use up any time going from point A to point B. It would have been a lot harder if the Winter Wonderland didn't have convenient Bank services.
My 2 boys were running the event with me, one at a time since we only have two laptops. Likewise, they never left the event the whole time. Unlike me, they don't have all of those handy transwarp destinations and slipstream drives to fall back on yet. They did not progress in the storyline, they did not level like they would have if they had been running the normal mission progression. Some nights (some of those were school nights) we basically did the race and got out.
Is it any wonder that we get tired of events by the time they're over?
Sure, we could have done other stuff, too. But that would have involved all of that point A to point B travel time. It definitely would've had a negative influence on marital bliss. And, like I said, there were many nights we simply didn't have time to do more than race. The boys had to get the hang of the ice track at first, and had to redo it 3-4 tries a night.
During that time, I didn't earn a lot of dilithium. I didn't earn a lot of fleet marks. Most of my non-Event Reputations came to a standstill. Choosing to make these events a priority means that I am not doing other things that earns the resources I need to build my characters and my fleet, or helping my boys to level up to 50.
That's what I'm reacting to. I was looking forward to a fun, quick, no-stress anniversary mission where my boys get a free ship to fly when they get to level 50. Because that's been the precedent set up until now. I give Cryptic money on a regular basis, so it's not like I'm not supporting the game and crying for freebies at Cryptic's expense.
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As someone who has Brandon on his Friendlist,I can 100% confirm he plays a LOT....he is a player just like us,he just gets all the insider info :P
Very well put, bluegeek. I completely agree with you.
I also agree with one of your previous posts where you stated that this would be better if there were more things which could be done in order to 'earn' the ships, to be perfectly honest - personally it's not the effort itself that puts me off, it's the same repetitive activity many times over a short period of time. That is not, by any descrption, fun.
However, I still maintain that a gift should be given out of the kindness of one's heart and not 'earned'.
but it does show he was still called Admiral but i guess they can only be one..... right.......
system Lord Baal is dead
This is the real crux of the matter for me.
It's not the ships, they look lovely.
It's not compulsory.
It's not even the quality of what we'll have to grind, thats yet to be known.
It's the timing.
These sort of events always get the community's attention, the rewards are designed to be highly desireable.
Thus, it is predictable, that if ones circumstances prevent being able to grind it out, one will be proportionally more disappointed.
You can get away with a couple of events like that a year, because there's only a couple of them and they're spaced well apart.
But failing to recognise the problems with the grind for many players, and failing to see how this timing sucks, are what needs to be acknowledged.
There have been a number of good suggestions made to lessen the impact of this event, I think we all know its too late to change direction in a substantial way, but perhaps things can be mitigated.
Bran, I hope and trust, will take those concerns on to the devs.
Frankly, its all we can hope for. Maybe they'll get it or maybe they wont.
Some notes on the seasonal event:
I found I vastly preferred the summer event to the winter event, especially when it came to extra things in the zone. I found the Winter event to be just tedious, even with the new things added (I did like the new costume things). The breen ship really wasn't my cup of tea, and the idea of running the race for a bunch of characters, and removing an alternative method of epohh tag acquisition killed my motivation. Making the tags an all or nothing (well two, compared to the twelve for winning) made acquiring the tags annoying and frustrating exercise that was on a timetable. Since it was competitive, it turned minor mechanics such as jumping into 'OMG exploits". Not everyone is into the competition thing.
The summer event was much better thought out it seemed to me.
Or let us get our once a day Dyson rep token from it.
It does not feel as grindy if you actually get something from it every day.
3rd Anniversary Party Box (random useless item)
500 Dilithium Ore
Festive Party Popper
It still wasn't worth it though, if you ask me... I just ran it once per character to get the Party Poppers and didn't bother doing it daily.
Easier, really.
Cryptic benefit, and my laziness, impatience benefits.
(Oh and also my C64 time!)
I hope STO get's better ...
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING
NO MORE GRINDING!!
PLEASE NO MORE GRINDING I've just had enough of reputation systems and I really want a break from grinding and just want to have fun I'm so sick of grinding :mad:
could not help if seem like a good one
system Lord Baal is dead
Please, you are not helping at all, 1 Dyson rep token for a year of grinding on anniversary event you are joking it right.
We all deserve our free ship, and Cryptic is just playing stupid with new head of Dev on team.
Did he even played STO since he left Cryptic? Now he has come back and shooting his guns of TRIBBLE like John Wayne, and setting the rules and harassing players.
Where is the gratitude for players? We feed them practically and holding this game alive for 4 years.
This way everyone got a new ship to fly as thank you for playing STO as part of the anniversary, while you guys could still monetize your work with the upgraded full variant.
However I'm strongly against the grind setup planned for this year. As much as I dislike the Summer/Winter event grind. Sure, STO has a lot of content meant to be replayed a lot of times. And I don't mind. But those events are different: We're not replaying a STF, fighting the borg - we're just doing some silly, pointless task. That's not earning something - it's just wasting time. Don't do this once again, the anniversary should be a time to celebrate, not an excuse to introduce another grind.
My fleet intrepid and sovereign on the other hand I dont need more a lot a for since I can swap my cstore ship for the fleet one. So for a 15 day grind, its not worth it.
And as pointed out by others, this is not really a great way to deal with something that should be a celebration.
Ner do you speak for us.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?