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cptlankford
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Just wondering why the amount of uber serious people I have been bumping into in-game has been drastically increasing lately?
Lemme be more specific. I play STO because its Star Trek. Granted its a very odd Star Trek but Trek none the less. My play style is fully committed to running ONLY fed ships and fed canon equipment. Also I am definitely interested in doing my fair share in fleet STFs. At the same time, its just a game and I'm not gonna go all crazy over what is essentially, fantasy. My fleet mates have no problem with this thankfully but I am getting a little tired of all the flak from pugs in STFs. Besides, I seem to be one of the few people that actually volunteer for probe duty and my ship can definitely handle them on its own. Seems like every time I turn around I am in a Khit where some other player insists on constantly coming over and "helping" with the probes (which isn't so bad) then getting all fussy about how I supposedly ain't killing them fast enough.
Honestly its beginning to kill the feel of the game for me. I already only have a precious few hours a day I can spend running STO because of my work schedule. I don't need some uber insane min/maxer trying to lecture me every time I turn around.
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Lemme be more specific. I play STO because its Star Trek. Granted its a very odd Star Trek but Trek none the less. My play style is fully committed to running ONLY fed ships and fed canon equipment. Also I am definitely interested in doing my fair share in fleet STFs. At the same time, its just a game and I'm not gonna go all crazy over what is essentially, fantasy. My fleet mates have no problem with this thankfully but I am getting a little tired of all the flak from pugs in STFs. Besides, I seem to be one of the few people that actually volunteer for probe duty and my ship can definitely handle them on its own. Seems like every time I turn around I am in a Khit where some other player insists on constantly coming over and "helping" with the probes (which isn't so bad) then getting all fussy about how I supposedly ain't killing them fast enough.
Honestly its beginning to kill the feel of the game for me. I already only have a precious few hours a day I can spend running STO because of my work schedule. I don't need some uber insane min/maxer trying to lecture me every time I turn around.
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Ultimately, you are right: its just a game. Someone else is making it more than that.
Keep in mind that most times people don't have anyone on "probe duty" instead people whack the probes then go work on the gates, and no one is sitting around waiting for the next wave to spawn. And some people are in so much of a rush they feel that having someone who only shoots the probes is slowing down their farming.
Not saying they're right, just that's an attitude that's common now.
There are fortunately some really good players i run into a lot in the estf's. We knock out ICE in maybe four minutes at most, and KASe takes just a wee bit longer. Its not because anyone is overpowered, its because they are very very good. these other guys?? They're just there and either learning or being brain dead.. You can only ignore them and go on..
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
Excuse me for focusing on trying to keep the optional.
Just take the "leet" players with a grain of salt. There are just as many good players who will offer advice as there are people who feel it necessary to berate others when things don't go according to their unshared plan.
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You hit the nail on the head sir.. They are all about farming, and nothing else.. Well, perhaps playing the lone frikkin hero taking everything on that they can and messing it up for the other four people in the room..
As you and i both said, ignore them. They arent playing any real game and if they are, it isnt star trek..
That's their problem, not yours.
STO is an extremely easy game to play. I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again. There's very little challenge in the game itself. Even Elite STFs aren't all that challenging compared to other games. This isn't a bad thing, mind you. Because this game is a Star Trek game first and everything else second.
But some people feel they have to min-max everything to be good. And the truth is you don't. I might have the best of everything, but it's simply because I can afford it or I wanted the challenge of trying to earn it. It's not because I think it makes me better. I have purple Mk XII phaser relays in my tactical slots, but by no means do I think I'll be a bad player if I don't use them. To the contrary, I'm fully aware that Blue Mk XI's work just as well.
These people you describe either don't understand or don't care that the game is easy to play. If you are pulling your weight in an STF, then why do they care? If you are getting the optional, if you are winning the STF... why do they care?
You are getting the job done. You are getting your rewards. There's no reward for killing things .07 seconds faster than everyone else. You don't get brownie points for min-maxing when the end reward is the same for everyone.
Now maybe if we're talking No Win Scenario or whatnot, that's a little bit different since it is the most challenging thing in the game. But when it comes to STFs... your fleetmates are needlessly anal retentive busybodies, sorry.
I have three ships specifically built to do probes ( one for each character ). Its my favorite position in KASe.. Its active, more challenging as the scenario goes on and requires more skill than just sitting there in grimjack blasting away at a generator.. Grimjack can easily take out anything bigger than a breadbox in there, but, wheres the fun in that??
Pfft.. I havent been able to build a ship thats capable of getting past level six in NWS yet.. now THATS an elite STF.. My hat is off to anyone that can do it..
Most people in Star Trek Online do not belong in the Star Trek Universe. Gene Roddenberry wanted a utopia where intelligence and compassion was the norm for the human race.
I wanted Star Trek.
Instead I got Idiocracy.
What i dont understand is how some of these people have time to type in any of the estf's. I may be old and slow, but jesus.. I have my hands full in those things. I figure there are four other people in there depending on me to do my job and that doesnt leave me a lot of time for typing out snarky comments and insults.. I just dont get it..
I can modify the Lexington (Assault Cruiser Refit) by swapping out my rear Torpedo for mines and a BOff with a Dispersal Pattern, then gas out the probes all day with Warp Plasma before shredding them with my Phased Tetryon beam arrays. :cool: Heck... I could also use Metreon Gas or Theta Radiation as well. Some days my fleet mates and I joke about me renamimg my ship to USS Gasious Anomaly.
The USS Caliburn (Advanced Escort) and RRW Mogwai (Fleet Mogai Retro)... Can just park there and Scatter Volley them to oblivion.
The USS Avalon... now she's a little more fun on Probe Duty. Vesta class with two Tractor Repulsors, a Grav Well, Isometric Charge... hehe...
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True, but that doesn't mean we should lower our standards, for them or for ourselves. We can accept idiocracy or we can try to better than that.
Oh don't get me wrong I'm not defending someone being rude to teammates during a mission. At best swap with someone "I got this" and then talk later "Hey you know that area you were having trouble with? I can think of a few simple tricks you can add to make it easier for next time, wouldn't require you revamp your ship or anything." And if the response is "no thanks," thats their call no worries, and if they tell me what I can go do with myself, I was just trying to be nice and helpful and its their problem now.
"There is no problem in the universe that can't be solved with a bribe, a paid assassin, or an overpowered fighter." - Chubain from Jumpgate Evolution
::ROFLMAO:: I LOVE the name.. Oh gods DO IT!!! ::LOL:: we have this guy that orks at the local gas station and Ive seen his farts clear out the entire station, pumps and all :;lol:;.. Truly a gaseous anomoly..
but back to present.. I prefer small heavily armed ships for probes.. the risan corvette, the Miranda, the tactical warbird, all of those are perfect for probes and a hell of a lot of fun..
Probably by me. Probe duty is 80% AFK 20% easy pickings. There is a time limit on the optional so sitting idle 80% of the time waiting for probes to spawn is not helping, especially when 2 players are doing it, one on each side. There are 2 generators in range where most players park, it wouldn't be hard at all to at least destroy 1 of them. But this is a mute point these days, as most PuGs get at least 1 Aux2Bat FAW DPS maxer and time is not often an issue.
I got one on my Romulan and called it the Wolfos. Still tweaking the build on her.
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Ok, dude, look: Probes come through two at a time while the first generator is up. Once the first generator goes down they come through three and four at a time. Once the second generator is down they come through five at a time and bring their sphere buddies with them. I dont know where you were told what you were told, but probes are a full time crazy assed position to work. I personally could care less about optionals btw.. They arent the point of the estf for me..
Agreed. Which is one of many reasons I still play the game.
I do believe your correct as ive come pretty much to the same conclusions myself.. Sadly, when ive been able to get these people between myself and my target, my weapons never seem to effect them. Gods know ive tried though.. time and time again..
The guy I quoted said he was working for the optionals. I don't complain when a player is active. I complain when they volunteer for probe duty and sit idle 80% of the time as many do, getting killed when the spheres spawn and still letting probes through the gate. If they can't do it why volunteer? There is a normal difficulty level.
I usually take probe duty on the right side myself. I enjoy the challenge of trying to destroy 4 generators, a transformer, a cube, and killing probes. But my ship is well suited for the role with gravity well 1, cannon scatter volley 1, torpedo spread 3, attack pattern beta 3.
(PS) If you fly a Scimitar (your signature picture) then you also have pets to help, the default drones or danubes with tractor beams can help a lot.
Ive actually stopped playing the game.. It died a horrible death for me, but i have friends i would miss incredibly if i were to leave, so you'll always see me and my grimjack on there somewhere as i want to be with them.. I'll go into estfs and blow **** up, run misshes and blow **** up, hang around Esd and watch others blow **** up.. But really, i'm just there for the peoplei i enjoy being around..
So which is it?
Your my counterpart. I'm always more comfortable ( and effective ) on the left.. And I do understand.. my apologies for jumping your post out of context..
Yeahhh, I fly a sim, but i'm weird. I feel that if i have to use my drones, or call the pirates, or go invisible, i'm doing something very wrong. I dislike using them I guess i figure thats what a team is for. We all work together and cover each other.. When i'm in Grimjack though, i dont do probes. its a battleship and has a different priority like generators and gates. And really, its no fun just siting there in that big boat just frting on probes as they come through the gate.. Thats why i prefer smaller more maneuverable craft in that position. its more challenging and a lot more fun..
heh, both??
Look, I'm there for my friends thats true, but they have in game objectives and goals. I cant be expecting them to sit there holding my lonesome lil hand while we chat for hours on end, so, while they're off chasing their goals, i'll pop into an estf or two to pass the time.. Oh dont worry, I put everything ive got into those estf's. I'm no slacker, but the game itself is pretty much dead to me..
Sounds like you are playing the way it is meant to be played.