It's stats are extremely good, in fact they might even be OP. It looks nice from the top, but at any other angle it looks hideous. Personally, I'll be sticking with my HEC, it looks nice, can take and give damage well, and handles good too.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Excelsior,Ambassador,Regent and Odyssey are not junk before this new ship arrived. Now they are going to be considered junk compared to the Avenger. Avenger is just to dam good.
Except Cruisers can be made pretty damn good with BFAW and A2B, if anything this thing seems to make the Tor'Kaht look like junk. More hull and 20 more inertia? Really? So Klingon loose out on their own game of being lighter and faster?
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I'm holding off a few weeks till I see if the Avenger gets hit with the nerf bat, i.e., no cloak ability, 1 comm array ability, 4 fore weapons, shield modifier, etc. At least until enough time has passed for the KDF side to weigh in about it being too overpowered. Last time I jumped in all excited and bought a ship was the Monbosh ship, then gets decimated with nerf's to the point it was worthless flying anymore... the cloak in particular.
Although, I'm glad to hear the Avenger class is a solid build! Looking forward to flying it in a few weeks. Fingers Crossed!
Can anyone tell me what the inertia value is for the Avenger please?
.5 = 50
Glad to have the Avenger. As a Tac captain, I have longed for a true fed cruiser. I think this will do just fine. Doubt I will ever moth ball my fleet excel or fleet sovvie though. The latter really should have been as good as this new ship though. Anyways, that is off topic.
Off to buy my T5 conn... oops, I mean Avenger now...
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i don't know why people liked this ship, it looks like the TRIBBLE child of a vesta and a regent(with some imperial mixed in), and its rather small too.
also not much point in getting it if you already own a regent or excelsior.
Ok, its short, its fat, its as ugly as it gets ( well second only too one other Veterans ship ).. Whats so good about it??
I guess some man's beauty is another's trash. Depends on the eye of the beholder and glad to see some peeps like and others could care less.
Best advice is to test for yourself and make your "own" decision. Some like their girls real skinny others with an extra cushion to the side...to each it's own :P
yeah i sorta got caught up now.. has anyone tried to see what can neutralize the channels? can SNB debuff them? curious minds want to know. if it does that may yet breath another day of life into science
yeah i sorta got caught up now.. has anyone tried to see what can neutralize the channels? can SNB debuff them? curious minds want to know. if it does that may yet breath another day of life into science
So far only the Avenger has them but they will be added to all Fed and KDF Cruisers/Battlecruisers sometime.
But I don't think there will be a way to counter them since they're passives.
Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
I never once complained about the ship's performance or abilities. Because this is what I and others were wanting the G-X to be years ago.
I complained about how Cryptic has go rename the Avenger Star Cruiser after 4 years, because their new toy sounded better with it. And I'm still annoyed at that.
I complained that the ship is ugly. And I still do.
I complained of Federation getting Battlecruisers, and further eroding the uniqueness of the KDF. Which I still believe and that Cryptic needs to stop giving Federation players every single toy that comes along.
And I complained about how it makes certain ships obsolete, which I still think it does.
I never once complained about the ship's performance or abilities. Because this is what I and others were wanting the G-X to be years ago.
I complained about how Cryptic has go rename the Avenger Star Cruiser after 4 years, because their new toy sounded better with it. And I'm still annoyed at that.
I complained that the ship is ugly. And I still do.
I complained of Federation getting Battlecruisers, and further eroding the uniqueness of the KDF. Which I still believe and that Cryptic needs to stop giving Federation players every single toy that comes along.
And I complained about how it makes certain ships obsolete, which I still think it does.
So Apples and Oranges. :P
so after a couple of decades of war with every empire on the block, the feds are not allowed to militarize?
Exept it's a C-store item. Ih man i miss the good old days of monthly subs and all content to everyone.
Dude, you're missing something that never existed. The C-Store was launched the same day the game was. STO was selling ships in the C-Store long before it went FTP.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Dude, you're missing something that never existed. The C-Store was launched the same day the game was. STO was selling ships in the C-Store long before it went FTP.
Yes indeed, i was here at launch and before that. I believe one part of failure was just the fact that better stuff and better looking stuff got to C-store while parts of the game were unfinished and still is.
Dont get me wrong, i enjoy the game and i also have bought few ships from C-store but not everyone ca and even while we can sell dilithium for ZEN it is still wrong. Real world money should never be part of game any other way than rational monthly sub. Monthly subs would also kill games not worth having around.
I have been playing for years on different MMORPG's and iremember when having some special stuff meant you accomplished something inside the game instead of just having few extra coins for best equipment without any merit for it.
Yes i am an elitist in a sense who never got the best stuff but had goals to be good enough someday to earn them but this is wrong topic for that, my apologies for ranting
so after a couple of decades of war with every empire on the block, the feds are not allowed to militarize?
Ironic statement given that the Federation have Heavy Cruisers and Dreadnaughts. :rolleyes:
Anyhow my point was that Battlecruisers were identifiable with Klingons, not Federation. And Federation players don't need to have every toy the other kid has. At this point the only thing left the KDF have is Dilithum and BoPs. They lost their Carrier Uniqueness and now they lost their Battlecruiser uniqueness. And that makes it less likely for players to create KDF characters, because "why bother, I got that on the Fed side".
Don't worry thecosmic1 gets all Fed ships I believe.
Yeah, I do. I have all the Fed ships and almost all the KDF ships. But I haven't played STO in a couple of months so I'm fighting the urge to log in and buy the ship, or wondering if I should just hold off until the new FE comes out and get it then. Right now I'm the kid walking past the toy store watching all the other children coming out with the cool new toy, and it's hard to rest.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
bought it, set it up, filled it out, and took it into pvp several times, were it got all the nukes and focus fire there was to have, people even stopped shooting at scimitars to target it lol.
it is definitely the second best non escort in game, second only to the scimitar. equipped with lots of turn consoles and escort weapons, its actually outgunning escorts too, a 5th forward weapon is extremely beneficial.
putting aside the debate of weather its ugly or not, the ship model oozes quality, it is extreamly highly detailed and its clear the extra mile was put into it. when you enter red alert, all the windows get a sheet of armor deployed over them, and same for half the buzzard collectors and partially over the warp grills as well.
the torp thing is pretty damn powerful from what ive seen, and of course the command auras are iceing on the cake. the are super easy to swap on the fly, when im redy to alpha i hit the energy drane res, then switch to the manoverability in between. and of course some extra shield res is always great when you come under heavy fire. its 1 more thing to keep track of though, and till i get used to it im libel to forget to activate and swap from time to time.
i had a bit of an issue with the turn rate aura though. just +3 turn is quite low for any sort of boost, but aside from that this aura also granted my ship an additional +100 inertia score wile it was active, giving me 150 inertia! there was 0 sliding when it is active, not sure if that applies to allies too. if this is a bug i say dont remove it, just include it in the description, its rather harmless, it just changes the turning character of the ship a bit
i rate this 10/10, and it would be 11/10 if its design was more soft and curved like the intrepid, galaxy, defiant akira and odyssey. the overly angled look is not an improved style over that
I like it because it's ugly ....Like old school Warships pre WW2, most were butt ugly but got the job done.
When one is at war you don't have time for sleeker warships we just need to put lots of guns on stuff hell the Dreadnought ships of the early days were not very pleasant looking but damn were they badass at the time.
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It's stats are extremely good, in fact they might even be OP. It looks nice from the top, but at any other angle it looks hideous. Personally, I'll be sticking with my HEC, it looks nice, can take and give damage well, and handles good too.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Except Cruisers can be made pretty damn good with BFAW and A2B, if anything this thing seems to make the Tor'Kaht look like junk. More hull and 20 more inertia? Really? So Klingon loose out on their own game of being lighter and faster?
Although, I'm glad to hear the Avenger class is a solid build! Looking forward to flying it in a few weeks. Fingers Crossed!
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Lets just say she is SO GOOD - she definitely won't be getting a hanger added in a week:eek::P;)
According to the Wiki it's 50...
.5 = 50
Glad to have the Avenger. As a Tac captain, I have longed for a true fed cruiser. I think this will do just fine. Doubt I will ever moth ball my fleet excel or fleet sovvie though. The latter really should have been as good as this new ship though. Anyways, that is off topic.
Off to buy my T5 conn... oops, I mean Avenger now...
also not much point in getting it if you already own a regent or excelsior.
I guess some man's beauty is another's trash. Depends on the eye of the beholder and glad to see some peeps like and others could care less.
Best advice is to test for yourself and make your "own" decision. Some like their girls real skinny others with an extra cushion to the side...to each it's own :P
ok I have not ben keeping up.. what are these active channels and new cruiser commands?
http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=997641
So far only the Avenger has them but they will be added to all Fed and KDF Cruisers/Battlecruisers sometime.
But I don't think there will be a way to counter them since they're passives.
roflmao
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I never once complained about the ship's performance or abilities. Because this is what I and others were wanting the G-X to be years ago.
I complained about how Cryptic has go rename the Avenger Star Cruiser after 4 years, because their new toy sounded better with it. And I'm still annoyed at that.
I complained that the ship is ugly. And I still do.
I complained of Federation getting Battlecruisers, and further eroding the uniqueness of the KDF. Which I still believe and that Cryptic needs to stop giving Federation players every single toy that comes along.
And I complained about how it makes certain ships obsolete, which I still think it does.
So Apples and Oranges. :P
Well she isn't exactly the prettiest girl at the ball. :P
so after a couple of decades of war with every empire on the block, the feds are not allowed to militarize?
It also propably has some stupid extra advantage like more boff slots or such to make it even more idiotic.
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Yes indeed, i was here at launch and before that. I believe one part of failure was just the fact that better stuff and better looking stuff got to C-store while parts of the game were unfinished and still is.
Dont get me wrong, i enjoy the game and i also have bought few ships from C-store but not everyone ca and even while we can sell dilithium for ZEN it is still wrong. Real world money should never be part of game any other way than rational monthly sub. Monthly subs would also kill games not worth having around.
I have been playing for years on different MMORPG's and iremember when having some special stuff meant you accomplished something inside the game instead of just having few extra coins for best equipment without any merit for it.
Yes i am an elitist in a sense who never got the best stuff but had goals to be good enough someday to earn them but this is wrong topic for that, my apologies for ranting
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Ironic statement given that the Federation have Heavy Cruisers and Dreadnaughts. :rolleyes:
Anyhow my point was that Battlecruisers were identifiable with Klingons, not Federation. And Federation players don't need to have every toy the other kid has. At this point the only thing left the KDF have is Dilithum and BoPs. They lost their Carrier Uniqueness and now they lost their Battlecruiser uniqueness. And that makes it less likely for players to create KDF characters, because "why bother, I got that on the Fed side".
That is a handy addition:P What if you can fly up to ships and just download their abilities too!!:eek:
Join the dark side thecosmic1, the Avenger shall set you free! :P:D
awesome ship using it as a tac atm. but fleet mate is engi and also using it..
the cruiser commands really help
the shield command works wonders in crystalline.
and the other commands also are really great.
WELL DONE Cryptic
good balanced ship
not too strong. has its weak points. ( the one sci console really grinded my gear t what to use there)
but i love it.
cant wait until the other cruisers get the cruiser commands
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Don't worry thecosmic1 gets all Fed ships I believe.
10 out of 10!! Very high praise from someone who is a major Galaxy Class and KDF battlecruiser Fanboy:P
When one is at war you don't have time for sleeker warships we just need to put lots of guns on stuff hell the Dreadnought ships of the early days were not very pleasant looking but damn were they badass at the time.