The embassy console that boosts shield healing provides threat generation with increased survivability.
You wouldn't fly a Sovereign for hit and run as well, would you?
Are there other variants of that embassy console that a Federation cruiser with the threat booster could comfortably take, possibility further boosting survivability instead, that I wouldn't be able to take since I'd be forced to take the one with the threat boosting modifier?
And I'm afraid I don't quite get what you're asking in the second line of your post.
"There will never be enough blood to wash away my need for vengeance! A single world...I could destroy a million worlds and it would not be enough! Your existence is an insult to the memory of my people! I will continue my fight, even if I must fight alone!"
we can talk about rom being OP all day long who was the OP one before roms because they where ment to be a pvp race........... your avatar has the answer
OP? Really? Are 22k and 24k hulled ships that much of a nightmare for you back then? Hell, at one point, we had a BOP that was at 17k hull. Ships that have 0.8 shield mods? That kept you up late at night in cold sweats?
Tell me, which faction had a good selection of 5 TAC Console ships, constant Cryptic babying / comforting (hello Avenger! Stealing a page from KDF Battlecruisers I see! So much for factions retaining uniqueness!), a COMPLETE ship lineup encompassing all aspects of ship specializations and hybridization. Ships that are solid in Escorts, Cruisers, and of course, Science Vessels? Ha! I'll tell you now, it's not the one that my avatar covers! :P
Also, the KDF were not supposed to have been a limited monster play/PVP race.
Oh lookie, what do we have here, specifically 1:49 if you have probs :cool:
No, the whole "PVP only" thing came about after when Cryptic gave up on making this game a true multifaction experience. The result? Well, check the ship lineup link I provided. That is just one small example. And here's another one!.
So please, do go on and tell me how those evil Klingon BOPs hurt you in the past, and how assuredly their firepower and staying power was too much to bear for you.
Instead of telling them they don't need to heal, I'd tell them l2p so they won't need to heal.
Lol rigggggght, so in other words uber player you need never heal in any elite mission? Or are you one of those who would sooner let yourself pop and respawn anew and build up 50million ship system damage indicators like I tend to see quite often!!!
PWE is removing all race/class/profession/rank/ship restrictions. They are also removing every ship and item in the game except for phaser beam arrays. The only ship players will have is the Miranda. This is to ensure no one is different from anyone else and thus, not OP..
Enjoy your game... that is all.
Are there other variants of that embassy console that a Federation cruiser with the threat booster could comfortably take, possibility further boosting survivability instead, that I wouldn't be able to take since I'd be forced to take the one with the threat boosting modifier?
And I'm afraid I don't quite get what you're asking in the second line of your post.
I asked if you would fly a Sovereign for hit and run purposes to imply that tanking with a Romulan is fundamentally incongruous.
Romulan vessels along with Subterfuge, Infiltrator and Operative traits are designed for covert operations. Cloaked attacks and stealthier retreats.
Lol rigggggght, so in other words uber player you need never heal in any elite mission? Or are you one of those who would sooner let yourself pop and respawn anew and build up 50million ship system damage indicators like I tend to see quite often!!!
I'd rather do 30k dps and pop gates on the way to the second transformer.
I asked if you would fly a Sovereign for hit and run purposes to imply that tanking with a Romulan is fundamentally incongruous.
Romulan vessels along with Subterfuge, Infiltrator and Operative traits are designed for covert operations. Cloaked attacks and stealthier retreats.
Even the Ha'apax?
"There will never be enough blood to wash away my need for vengeance! A single world...I could destroy a million worlds and it would not be enough! Your existence is an insult to the memory of my people! I will continue my fight, even if I must fight alone!"
Why do so many ppl want their factions ships to be similar to the other factions ships? I prefer each factions ship abilities to be asymmetrical. Makes things interesting & in my eyes more realistic. Not every government, nation or what-have-you goes about doing things the same way. I say keep things different amongst the factions. I'd even go so far to say there needs to be -more- differences between the ships of each faction.
I'd rather do 30k dps and pop gates on the way to the second transformer.
Still doesn't answer the question as to whether you need to pop a heal from time to time!!! But oh yeah the feds need a cruiser boost in the form of costing them 0 in return!!!
Still doesn't answer the question as to whether you need to pop a heal from time to time!!! But oh yeah the feds need a cruiser boost in the form of costing them 0 in return!!!
Why do so many ppl want their factions ships to be similar to the other factions ships? I prefer each factions ship abilities to be asymmetrical. Makes things interesting & in my eyes more realistic. Not every government, nation or what-have-you goes about doing things the same way. I say keep things different amongst the factions. I'd even go so far to say there needs to be -more- differences between the ships of each faction.
because like 5 year old that see another 5 year old with some new toy they got then they fell the need to have it or throw a tantrum till they get it or QQ over and over
Fleet Ha'apax is an exception, but the Romulan faction isn't tank-friendly was my point.
Isn't tank-friendly in general, perhaps, but again the Ha'apax seems to be an exception. Would it be acceptable, then, if only the Ha'apax gained some sort of aggro-boosting capability, comparable to that of the new comm array aggro-boasting ability of the Federation and KDF cruisers, to make up for that fact that it is the odd duck of the Romulan faction?
"There will never be enough blood to wash away my need for vengeance! A single world...I could destroy a million worlds and it would not be enough! Your existence is an insult to the memory of my people! I will continue my fight, even if I must fight alone!"
As it has been explained in great detail various times I'll simply say that I agree with the majority, Romulan's simply don't need these new commands.
They are flavour of the month, and so have been lavished and spoiled with so many advantages they are OP to the point of broken (though I believe upcoming patches are starting to rein them in a bit).
I can't help but wonder what the reaction will be when the next inevitable playable super faction comes along, and Romulans are thrown into the pit with the Feds and KDF.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Ho ho ho...this is probably the most amusing post I've seen on the forums this entire past week.
ok first off Green Giant or Santa Claus? and dont try to say im wrong because main reason feds cried out for FVF because of KDF bop's and other cloaking ship and dieing in 10 secs flat why because at the time KDF worked as a team not some hot shot fly boy or girls thinking they could do it onw there onw that was the feds job i been here since open beta and pvp for good part of the first year
Plus there already is a Romulan "Cruiser". Tal'Shiar Adapted Battlecruiser, which apparently will get the cruiser commands.
That is a lobi ship available to all factions, and is Romulan only in name. It is most related to the non-battlecloak Klingon battlecruisers, and does not have a singularity core (hence it will get 3 out of 4 cruiser commands).
I'll echo what's been said already. Warbirds are perfectly fine as they are, yes there needs to be action taken to address the issue of a lack of dedicated science ships but that is IT.
I'm over the moon that cruisers are at last getting some attention to make them a worthwhile asset to a team. I just hope that the comm arrays are brought out to all other ships quickly after the Avenger is launched.
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the problem I have with romulan cruisers not getting cruiser commands is that the so called trade off for singularity abilities is having much lower power level on singularity cores vs warp cores. that's meant to be a balance trade off right there. so whats the the balance trade off with cruiser commands???
I dont know, but the new Fed Battlecruiser could use some singularity powers and built in battlecloak. Cruisers commands only seems a little underpowered.:rolleyes:
the problem I have with romulan cruisers not getting cruiser commands is that the so called trade off for singularity abilities is having much lower power level on singularity cores vs warp cores. that's meant to be a balance trade off right there. so whats the the balance trade off with cruiser commands???
boffs with operative. singularity abilities by themselves don't compensate for that -40. not in the slightest, combination of sing abilities and rom boffs does. somewhat. squishy factor is still there but tolerable.
operative trait allows you to run weapon power lower, rely on gambling...crits to even up damage output comparative to the other factions. and have a bit more power for subsystems. the biggest squishiness comes in when players don't realize that -40 and crank weapon power the way they would in fed or kdf ships.
sure, you do a lot of damage, but you are now a glass cannon.
romulans don't need the cruiser commands, not at the cost of losing something else, they aren't that great in comparison to what could be lost.
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Are there other variants of that embassy console that a Federation cruiser with the threat booster could comfortably take, possibility further boosting survivability instead, that I wouldn't be able to take since I'd be forced to take the one with the threat boosting modifier?
And I'm afraid I don't quite get what you're asking in the second line of your post.
OP? Really? Are 22k and 24k hulled ships that much of a nightmare for you back then? Hell, at one point, we had a BOP that was at 17k hull. Ships that have 0.8 shield mods? That kept you up late at night in cold sweats?
Tell me, which faction had a good selection of 5 TAC Console ships, constant Cryptic babying / comforting (hello Avenger! Stealing a page from KDF Battlecruisers I see! So much for factions retaining uniqueness!), a COMPLETE ship lineup encompassing all aspects of ship specializations and hybridization. Ships that are solid in Escorts, Cruisers, and of course, Science Vessels? Ha! I'll tell you now, it's not the one that my avatar covers! :P
Also, the KDF were not supposed to have been a limited monster play/PVP race.
Oh lookie, what do we have here, specifically 1:49 if you have probs :cool:
No, the whole "PVP only" thing came about after when Cryptic gave up on making this game a true multifaction experience. The result? Well, check the ship lineup link I provided. That is just one small example. And here's another one!.
So please, do go on and tell me how those evil Klingon BOPs hurt you in the past, and how assuredly their firepower and staying power was too much to bear for you.
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Lol rigggggght, so in other words uber player you need never heal in any elite mission? Or are you one of those who would sooner let yourself pop and respawn anew and build up 50million ship system damage indicators like I tend to see quite often!!!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Coming from a Romulan playerbase and in this thread subject, I find this HIGHLY amusing
Enjoy your game... that is all.
was a fed for 3years before roms came out ty come again
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I asked if you would fly a Sovereign for hit and run purposes to imply that tanking with a Romulan is fundamentally incongruous.
Romulan vessels along with Subterfuge, Infiltrator and Operative traits are designed for covert operations. Cloaked attacks and stealthier retreats.
Valdus | Charn | Costello | Typhus | Thyran
See my links earlier haha!
Fed lineup was never weak. If you believed that so, even back in the release days of STO, you were doing things wrong.
Clearly stated as "Cruiser" commands. So why would a Warbird have Cruiser Commands?
Pretty simple when you think about it.
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I'd rather do 30k dps and pop gates on the way to the second transformer.
ya and why KDF was wining all the pvp as to why feds cried out for a FVF ty come again
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Even the Ha'apax?
Still doesn't answer the question as to whether you need to pop a heal from time to time!!! But oh yeah the feds need a cruiser boost in the form of costing them 0 in return!!!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
In a good premade, tac team works just fine.
because like 5 year old that see another 5 year old with some new toy they got then they fell the need to have it or throw a tantrum till they get it or QQ over and over
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Fleet Ha'apax is an exception, but the Romulan faction isn't tank-friendly was my point.
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Isn't tank-friendly in general, perhaps, but again the Ha'apax seems to be an exception. Would it be acceptable, then, if only the Ha'apax gained some sort of aggro-boosting capability, comparable to that of the new comm array aggro-boasting ability of the Federation and KDF cruisers, to make up for that fact that it is the odd duck of the Romulan faction?
They are flavour of the month, and so have been lavished and spoiled with so many advantages they are OP to the point of broken (though I believe upcoming patches are starting to rein them in a bit).
I can't help but wonder what the reaction will be when the next inevitable playable super faction comes along, and Romulans are thrown into the pit with the Feds and KDF.
Ho ho ho...this is probably the most amusing post I've seen on the forums this entire past week.
ok first off Green Giant or Santa Claus? and dont try to say im wrong because main reason feds cried out for FVF because of KDF bop's and other cloaking ship and dieing in 10 secs flat why because at the time KDF worked as a team not some hot shot fly boy or girls thinking they could do it onw there onw that was the feds job i been here since open beta and pvp for good part of the first year
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That is a lobi ship available to all factions, and is Romulan only in name. It is most related to the non-battlecloak Klingon battlecruisers, and does not have a singularity core (hence it will get 3 out of 4 cruiser commands).
I'm over the moon that cruisers are at last getting some attention to make them a worthwhile asset to a team. I just hope that the comm arrays are brought out to all other ships quickly after the Avenger is launched.
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boffs with operative. singularity abilities by themselves don't compensate for that -40. not in the slightest, combination of sing abilities and rom boffs does. somewhat. squishy factor is still there but tolerable.
operative trait allows you to run weapon power lower, rely on gambling...crits to even up damage output comparative to the other factions. and have a bit more power for subsystems. the biggest squishiness comes in when players don't realize that -40 and crank weapon power the way they would in fed or kdf ships.
sure, you do a lot of damage, but you are now a glass cannon.
romulans don't need the cruiser commands, not at the cost of losing something else, they aren't that great in comparison to what could be lost.
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Being a cruiser. :rolleyes: