Huh - the entry for Fleet Battle Cruiser is already there on the T4 Fleet Shipyard description on Holodeck. Guess they learned from the Ar'kif debacle and are releasing it with a fleet version right away this time.
Did you zoom it? Notice the 3 firing hardpoints - the space - then another before it cuts off?
If it were only 4 Fore Weapons, would think that there would be no space between that 3rd and the 4th...so - rampant speculation 5/3 weapons? It's 3 - space - 2...? Wish he'd done a little wider image.
I want to say it will have 5 Fore weapons, but I'd be surprised if they gave that to a ship that doesn't come in a 3-pack.
I'm assuming it doesn't come in a 3-pack, because there is a fleet version.
I think it's a safe bet that it will be Tac heavy with enough Eng to use A2B.
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I want to say it will have 5 Fore weapons, but I'd be surprised if they gave that to a ship that doesn't come in a 3-pack.
I'm assuming it doesn't come in a 3-pack, because there is a fleet version.
I think it's a safe bet that it will be Tac heavy with enough Eng to use A2B.
oh ya, theorising this ships layout, i almost forgot lol
i think it will technically be a cruiser, the same way the scimitar and breen ship technicly are, dispite the COM tac. this ship though, its gunna be the federation scimitar equivalent, same as the eventual negvar refit. so i woulnt be surprised if this ship doesn't have the vet ship station setup as well, and 5 fore weapons. lets say a 10 turn rate or so?
of it could be a federation ktinga with a COM and LTC eng lol. with an AtB build, dont knock that station setup till you try it.
this is how they should handle the refit negvar, delayed for 20 months now. first, like they had to do with the star cruiser variant, rename the current neghvar in game to Voodieh class. whats in game is not quite the same ship from DS9, thats the actual neghvar. whats in game now is the version from the tng alternate future 'all good things', and refereed to as the Voodieh class. it has no large underslung guns and its wings curve downward. the DS9 negvar wings stuck strait out. this Voodieh class is most likely a decontented production version of the original negvar, and more general purpose and engineering heavy.
this true neghvar is a reproduction of gowron's original flagship, big guns and all, and should basically be a stat clone of this avenger. instead of a special console torpedo thing though, it should have a disruptor version of the andoran escort's wing guns to fire from the underslung cannons it would have.
didn't we get that with the Bort? (and does it not suck rocks???) 'Dreadnought' just doesn't seem to be something that KDF can have that is actually...y'know...useful for anything.
Bortas/Bortasqu' are technically Battle Cruisers, so they've got 3/4 of the Cruiser Commands unlike the Gal-X Dreadnought Cruiser which has 2/4 of the commands. Heh, and yeah - I know asking for a KDF Gal-X is kind of...lol...yeah...lol...
this is how they should handle the refit negvar, delayed for 20 months now. first, like they had to do with the star cruiser variant, rename the current neghvar in game to Voodieh class. whats in game is not quite the same ship from DS9, thats the actual neghvar. whats in game now is the version from the tng alternate future 'all good things', and refereed to as the Voodieh class. it has no large underslung guns and its wings curve downward. the DS9 negvar wings stuck strait out. this Voodieh class is most likely a decontented production version of the original negvar, and more general purpose and engineering heavy.
this true neghvar is a reproduction of gowron's original flagship, big guns and all, and should basically be a stat clone of this avenger. instead of a special console torpedo thing though, it should have a disruptor version of the andoran escort's wing guns to fire from the underslung cannons it would have.
This^^^^. As well it should not lose any consoles for having basic cloak
Chances are though it will be as useless as TaTa's smashed flat on the sidewalk.
Unfortunately, we're more likely to get a retread Gal-X copy than we are to get a 5-console raptor, or indeed any (New)ship with a good turn rate that can be actually USED in PvP.
In fact, I suspect we'll see playable Founders and a Dominion Faction before the "we have to push this back another x months" isn't the refrain for KDF...anything.
Hey...
...so you're saying I should stop asking for the Balaur/Ravager/Warbarge 3pack?
I guess the Taunt mode and the Weapon mode has the same VATA since they didn't mention any thing for that mode either.
Looks interesting. Though I'm not sure if I could fly the base one from the C-store.. i'd almost have to try to get a fleet version because I don't think I could fly a ship with only 1 Science Console slot lol
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I guess the Taunt mode and the Weapon mode has the same VATA since they didn't mention any thing for that mode either.
Looks interesting. Though I'm not sure if I could fly the base one from the C-store.. i'd almost have to try to get a fleet version because I don't think I could fly a ship with only 1 Science Console slot lol
Battle Cruisers only have 3/4 Cruiser Commands...they don't have Attract Fire.
Have you read about the drones that it fires that fire torpedos until the drones make contact with the target and explode themselves?
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Hrmmm...T4. At least it's not T5...but meh...
yeah cant wait
I want to say it will have 5 Fore weapons, but I'd be surprised if they gave that to a ship that doesn't come in a 3-pack.
I'm assuming it doesn't come in a 3-pack, because there is a fleet version.
I think it's a safe bet that it will be Tac heavy with enough Eng to use A2B.
I'd laugh so hard if it was a 'battlecruiser' in name only.
4 Engy consoles, 2 tac, 3 sci, Cmdr eng, Lt. Cmdr sci, lt tac, lt sci, ensign eng
Or something like that.
Though honestly, at this point I'm expecting a copy of the Tor'kaht. Only one way to find out.
oh ya, theorising this ships layout, i almost forgot lol
i think it will technically be a cruiser, the same way the scimitar and breen ship technicly are, dispite the COM tac. this ship though, its gunna be the federation scimitar equivalent, same as the eventual negvar refit. so i woulnt be surprised if this ship doesn't have the vet ship station setup as well, and 5 fore weapons. lets say a 10 turn rate or so?
of it could be a federation ktinga with a COM and LTC eng lol. with an AtB build, dont knock that station setup till you try it.
Plus I bet it can mount dual cannons forward and on the sides. You could have 6 beams and 2 cannons/torpedoes for broadsiding.
I don?t think it will but it would be cool if it came with a warp core that raises the max weapon power.
I think the consoles will be 3/3/3 and 3/3/4 (fleet version)
I bet it will have some kind of team wide tac buff. But no idea what.
We already have that in the fleet excelsior (with a slightly lower turn rate)
I cant see it going this way.
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Hrmmm?
Fleet Tor'Kaht is LCdr/Lt, Cmdr/En, Lt.
Fleet Excelsior is LCdr, Cmdr/Lt/En, Lt.
Fleet Assault is LCdr/En, Cmdr/Lt, Lt.
Though I can see why certain folks would definitely prefer the Monbosh layout: LCdr, Cmdr, En, 2x Lt.
"The ship has a special console (the Variable Auto-Targeting Armament), which is a very versatile torpedo weapon."
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Have to wonder now, about that Fleet Assault Negh'Var...being more like the Fleet Avenger.
Course, I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion about a KDF Dreadnought Cruiser and a Fed Flight-Deck Cruiser...
this true neghvar is a reproduction of gowron's original flagship, big guns and all, and should basically be a stat clone of this avenger. instead of a special console torpedo thing though, it should have a disruptor version of the andoran escort's wing guns to fire from the underslung cannons it would have.
Bortas/Bortasqu' are technically Battle Cruisers, so they've got 3/4 of the Cruiser Commands unlike the Gal-X Dreadnought Cruiser which has 2/4 of the commands. Heh, and yeah - I know asking for a KDF Gal-X is kind of...lol...yeah...lol...
This^^^^. As well it should not lose any consoles for having basic cloak
Chances are though it will be as useless as TaTa's smashed flat on the sidewalk.
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Hey...
...so you're saying I should stop asking for the Balaur/Ravager/Warbarge 3pack?
Hopefully at some point the ships they release will have more customization like this.
most escorts have 60. i expected 40, like the ambassador and excelsior
KDF BCs are sporting 25-35...50 took me by surprise. 50's the same as the Chel Grett Warship...
Looks interesting. Though I'm not sure if I could fly the base one from the C-store.. i'd almost have to try to get a fleet version because I don't think I could fly a ship with only 1 Science Console slot lol
Think about this:
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Battle Cruisers only have 3/4 Cruiser Commands...they don't have Attract Fire.
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