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  • dontirridontirri Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    No chance of Vengeance. JJTrek is off limits because the rights are owned by a different company. The ship's stupid anyway, a 1.5km ship on the 2270's? (the 700m+ Enterprise is ridiculous enough as it is)
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't think we'll get that ship, as cryptic/cbs doesn't have the rights to any of those movies. Besides, that ship is ugly and Robo Cop is the captain...

    We might, however, get a look alike like just like how we got the the Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer from the Narada.
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited September 2013
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    I don't think we'll get that ship, as cryptic/cbs doesn't have the rights to any of those movies. Besides, that ship is ugly and Robo Cop is the captain...

    We might, however, get a look alike like just like how we got the the Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer from the Narada.

    Robo Cop is awesome ... "dead or alive you are coming with me"
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  • magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    A cheap knockoff just like the tal shair ships could be on the cards though i'm not holding my breath.
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    It may be that the new rom escort, dispite having a hangar added didnt sell good enough so they speed up the timeline to make at least some money of the fleet version.
    Hope the new cruiser is not just some useless junk cruiser. It must bring something to the table the fleet assault does not otherwise why bother.
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Not much doubt what it will be in my mind - a 5/3 cannon-ready cruiser with a single carrier slot. Probably turn rate 8-10, 42k hull, 4/2/3 (4/2/4 fleet) and BOFFs similar to the Excelsior.

    I would start a pool, but I don't think the mods would allow it.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    seeing as the JJprise is only a bit bigger then the prime connie, the vengeance would be about the size of an ambassador class. still quite absurd for the 2250s, but its sort of an insane 1 off by one of the craziest cartoon evil admirals yet. hopefully it never inspires anything in STO, holes in the saucer are so stupid.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    This image: http://oi41.tinypic.com/20p4twx.jpg :is kind of funny, showing the scale of it compared to other ships. Through some twist of fate, were it ever put in the game...could you imagine the complaints about its turn?
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Just for sake of argument... why is 1500m crazy in any time frame once they start using transporters replicators and space docks. :)

    It seems to me if you can build a 700m ship in space... you can build a 1500m ship in space. I mean its not like they knocked one 700m ship out and said ok where out of raw material now no more ships. lol :)

    Instead of turning out 20 700m ships they could turn out 2 3000m ships... what would be stopping them exactly ?

    Not that I think bigger would be more powerful anyway, so the entire concept is silly.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    This image: http://oi41.tinypic.com/20p4twx.jpg :is kind of funny, showing the scale of it compared to other ships. Through some twist of fate, were it ever put in the game...could you imagine the complaints about its turn?

    i refuse to subscribe to the insane notion that the jjprise is 700 meters long. thankfully its exterior features all but prove its in the 300 meeter range
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    i refuse to subscribe to the insane notion that the jjprise is 700 meters long. thankfully its exterior features all but prove its in the 300 meeter range

    Heh, it's kind of funny. Cause some folks latched on to stats released by ILM putting it at 735m - but other stats showed that it had been scaled for that 735m and it was actually designed at 366m.

    It's a fun discussion...near the bottom of this page: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm#size :they talk about it.

    edit: So you'd be looking at the USS Vengeance somewhere in size between a Star Cruiser and a Negh'Var...but it's kind of fun to picture it being over 200m longer than a Vo'Quv. ;)
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    i refuse to subscribe to the insane notion that the jjprise is 700 meters long. thankfully its exterior features all but prove its in the 300 meeter range

    JJ himself admitted that it was originally supposed to be 300 but the effects departments hosed up the shuttle bays and the final size ended up being 700. It was cheaper to say the later than to re-do the effects, so we get stuck with the 700m figure (and apparently some super-big-TRIBBLE windows).
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    jaturnley wrote: »
    JJ himself admitted that it was originally supposed to be 300 but the effects departments hosed up the shuttle bays and the final size ended up being 700. It was cheaper to say the later than to re-do the effects, so we get stuck with the 700m figure (and apparently some super-big-TRIBBLE windows).

    its easier to write off the shuttlebay scene then every single other exterior detail
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just for sake of argument... why is 1500m crazy in any time frame once they start using transporters replicators and space docks. :)

    Because there's little point to a ship being that huge, other than wang waving. To be honest I found the Galaxy class ships to be far too big, but then it was more of a luxury liner with a needlessly inefficient bridge and lots of space used for families and larger quarters.


    As for the JJprise, I'm going with the 300metres.
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  • atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Like I said on another thread, they want to replicate the financial success the Scimitar was,...

    You took the words right out of my mouth. That's exactly what I thought when I see the screeshot picture.
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It'll probably suck anyway, either having a terrible turnrate, poor tanking ability or poor DPS.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    we do i have a feeling battlecruiser means andorian battle cruiser. no actual fed ship ever goes by that name, but an andorian ship has. but, what business does it have with a cloak?

    id rather have an actual fed ship for this though
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  • neo1nxneo1nx Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    edalgo wrote: »
    Fleet Galaxy-X with 5 Tactical consoles, Lt.Commander Tactical station and built in battle cloak with new shiny warp core special ability of Iwin console that gives the lance 100% accuracy and 100% Shield Penetration.

    Then I woke up...

    that is a nightmare, a galaxy x where i didn't have to put a fight:rolleyes:

    on an other note, no the jj is not 700 meters, just like the jj connie is not as big as a sovereign.


    anyway, isn't this ship supposed to be free? is it the one that we will get for doing the new content that come?
    in that case don't expect too much of it.
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    No, the free ship is an Alien Carrier, not a Federation Battle Cruiser.

    And

    In starship classification, the term battle cruiser was sometimes used synonymously with heavy cruiser. The Klingons (ST3:Search for Spock) once referred to the Federation Constitution-class USS Enterprise as a battle cruiser.

    More RMG about the new ship being a T5 Constitution, GO!!
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013

    In starship classification, the term battle cruiser was sometimes used synonymously with heavy cruiser. The Klingons (ST3:Search for Spock) once referred to the Federation Constitution-class USS Enterprise as a battle cruiser.

    The Klingons were trying discredit Kirk and say he went out to kill Klingons in his battle cruiser. It was just propaganda. They do it again in ST4:Voyage Home.

    More RMG about the new ship being a T5 Constitution, GO!!

    With a cloak?
  • caldannachcaldannach Member Posts: 485 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Its most likely the federation NPC Typhoon ship, that is classed as a battlecruiser. The one with 4 nacelles.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    caldannach wrote: »
    Its most likely the federation NPC Typhoon ship, that is classed as a battlecruiser. The one with 4 nacelles.

    They've stated repeatedly that it wouldn't happen because it's a very poor quality model that was thrown together...people have still asked repeatedly for it, saying they could just touch it up.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What free alien ship?
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Has anybody stoped to think that maybe the cloak is going console gamewide and the Battle Cruiser mentioned is Klingon?
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    dream on, klink
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    What free alien ship?

    http://www.onrpg.com/articles/star-trek-online-interview-with-daniel-stahl/

    Are there any other awesome ships that are being worked on right now that you can tell us about? Or maybe the sort of ?if we told you we?d have to kill you? sort of things? (Please, no killing)

    We?ll keep the settings on stun and talk about the exclusive new alien ship that we are working on as a special reward for completing the new Feature Episode releasing in September.

    This ancient, full-Carrier vessel uses subspace technology and was created by an alien race that may be related to the Iconians. As captains venture into the new feature episode, they?ll learn more about where this ship comes and get a chance to captain it in combat.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    They've stated repeatedly that it wouldn't happen because it's a very poor quality model that was thrown together...people have still asked repeatedly for it, saying they could just touch it up.


    Actually in one of the interviews I believe Gecko alluded that the ship might appear at some point, just not with that model (which Cryptic has admitted is an awful kitbash).

    So we might see "a typhoon" class, just one that looks different. :)
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