I *loved* that series! I didn't care too much for Andromeda but I still respected him for doing it. Needless to say, when STO "gave" me Thel, Kevin was the first actor I could imagine.
Review time! @morkintash - The colors were a little distracting at first, but I got used to it. If you look at LC 1 and some afterward, it seems the community used different colors as a practice. I've considered using colors for specific responses as an alternative to using italics, bold and underlines. Regardless, I'm a fan of Keruko now and I demand you bring him back The dire situation was well represented and I was involved throughout the piece.
@gorvar1 - I'm really appreciating your take on the Gorn and I'm considering playing one in-game. I'm looking forward to what Doutra does with her discovery!
@danqueller - Very nice take on the this particular enemy. Ever read the book "Vendetta"? It's relatively old but it's worth a read because it's this enemy looking for payback against Kirk. Anyways, like the others above I could not stop reading this entry. Well done, sir!
@danqueller - Very nice take on the this particular enemy. Ever read the book "Vendetta"? It's relatively old but it's worth a read because it's this enemy looking for payback against Kirk.
Yup, I have. I have some disagreements with the ending (the nature of the Killer would never allow the Borg to adapt to it), but we have to allow that the author was under restrictions as to what could be 'left behind' at the end of the story. The idea that the Doomsday Machines were built to destroy the Borg makes perfect sense (although it might be that the reverse was true from an editorial perspective, given when each was introduced into ST), especially when you see how the Planet Killers hit all of the Borg's weak spots so perfectly. And yes, that is why the Planet Killer in my entry immediately destroyed the Borg Cube on contact...it was fulfilling it's primary function.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Now, since I've finally gotten a chance to read the other entries, I'll throw up some reviews of my own (insert ominous dark music here). Please take any comments as intended to help, not detract, from the work!
Also note that I'm a pretty inexperienced reviewer, so take or leave my reviews with that in mind.
@cosmonaught12345: Interesting read, and a very good job with the narrator's prejudices! I think there is some loss to the story from a lack of background info (you really can't tell if Rose is a Starfleet Officer or a renegade from some of the dialogue ), but I loved the way you implied she was a former Borg herself. Nice job!
@morkintash: As others have said, the different color text was distracting, but it was the lack of spacing between the lines that made it seem a bit like a 'wall of text'. Great job on the Ferengi accent and terms! I also liked how you made the wormhole passage difficult for the ship, as there seem to be too many views among Trek fiction that wormholes are just big tunnels that you go through without really noticing instead of that sort of wormhole being the rarest kind. One other thing you might try is to italicize ship names to set them apart from other words. Good job!
@marcusdkane: Short and to the point! The entry seems to be a fragment of a story, though, and feels like a placeholder between events, rather than an event itself. Am I right in assuming this is not meant to be a stand-alone piece?
@govar1: I had a bit of confusion when Z'nod was detailed as the "current Commanding Officer" instead of 'Executive Officer' or 'Officer of the Deck', since the 'current' wasn't capitalized as a title normally would (made it seem to me the ship operated with the Captaincy rotating equally among the senior officers, with no permanent CO). Very nice job with the Gorn! It's always great to hear non-human/humanoids speak differently from humans to emphasize that it isn't just the skin scales that are different. As above, you might want to italicize ship names to set them apart. Look forwards to seeing more!
@cmdrscarlet: Nice short piece about possibilities. The idea of a 'negative' universe is one that we only see once in ST and everyone seems to forget afterwards, but it's refreshing to see it here again! I especially like that you reminded the reader that most wormholes a ship might encounter are not stable, and can't be used for passage! Great job!
@patrickngo: Interesting twist to bring the Q-ship concept into the Borg War! I loved how the Herdthinner, despite getting in the first shot, quickly found itself dangerously outgunned in the initial battle (which makes sense in this situation). Attacking even knowing the enemy outmatches your ship is definitely a Klingon trait, and I loved the cultural background injected for the main character! Now, how is this going to end....?
danqueller - excellent story, examining what is known of the "Planet Killer" and offering a fine solution to how to disable one when you don't have a spare starship or a few Har'pengs handy
@marcusdkane: Short and to the point! The entry seems to be a fragment of a story, though, and feels like a placeholder between events, rather than an event itself. Am I right in assuming this is not meant to be a stand-alone piece?
Thanks for your thoughts, I can certainly understand why it might feel that way, but it was written specifically to be a very short mundane piece At the time, I wasn't feeling inspired enough to have anything coming out of the wormhole, or to have the Valkyrie go through it... I could expand the price further to include such elements, but it would considerably change the tone of the piece, and my current idea would not really 'add anything', so I might just leave it as is
Cmdr. Sharon's career options are limited - a competent Starfleet engineer from the mid-24th century is something of a relic in the early 25th, and what she's really in _demand_ for (as with most Liberated Borg) is her knowledge of the Collective. She's a trained Starfleet engineer who was assimilated by a mysterious sphere in the heart of a major temporal anomaly - she could easily be an important figure!
But the voice in the back of her head isn't a childhood promise of order and security the way it was for Seven of Nine - it's the voice of the thing that devoured her soul and permanently warped her body. She has trouble even being in the same room as other liberated Borg, much less working with their technology. (I've been a little hard on this character, but she was born from the idea that Seven of Nine was entirely too jolly about the Collective...)
Since I can't log into the game for some "Unknown Reason" I can spend a few minutes catching up on reading...
@morkintash - Welcome to the party! Your story read a lot like a TNG episode and I enjoyed it a lot. I especially liked your distraught Ferengi ("My ship! My latinum! Nooo!") and the cool-as-a-cucumber way Captain Nixon handled everything. A few suggestions though: As marcusdkane mentioned the LCARS color scheme - while very clever - is a little distracting. I think it would be more effective if you limited its use to stardates and captain's log entries. And your supporting cast wasn't very well described. I derived through context that Cmdr. Buuren was the first officer, for instance, but what species was he? What does he look like? Does he cop an attitude with his Captain or is he totally professional? Just putting in a little bit of information about a character, by way of introduction, goes a long way to draw in the reader's interest.
@marcusdkane - A bit humdrum, but I suppose a bit of peace and quiet is in order after all the Valkyrie's been through.
@gorvar1 - I liked that very much! I especially liked the relationship between Tovan and Doutra, and the semi-psychotic Gorn science officer (always let a sleeping Gorn lie!) I'm looking forward to watching the mystery of Doutra's origin deepen.
@cmdrscarlet - I always enjoy a good TAS reference! I also liked the tension you built between Beringer and Omazei.
@danqueller - fantastic piece! Great description of the PK from a race that had never encountered one before, and I really enjoyed the rivalry between Tosik and Rycho with your anonymous (mysterious!) commander taking a back seat.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
@morkintash - Welcome to the party! Your story read a lot like a TNG episode and I enjoyed it a lot. I especially liked your distraught Ferengi ("My ship! My latinum! Nooo!") and the cool-as-a-cucumber way Captain Nixon handled everything. A few suggestions though: As marcusdkane mentioned the LCARS color scheme - while very clever - is a little distracting. I think it would be more effective if you limited its use to stardates and captain's log entries. And your supporting cast wasn't very well described. I derived through context that Cmdr. Buuren was the first officer, for instance, but what species was he? What does he look like? Does he cop an attitude with his Captain or is he totally professional? Just putting in a little bit of information about a character, by way of introduction, goes a long way to draw in the reader's interest.
Thank you!
I'll get rid of the LCARS theme since nobody seemed to like it, haha. I do like your suggestion of keeping it narrowed down to just dates and log entries, so I'll do that next time.
The other suggestion you mentioned and a few others was how it came as a wall of text.
I can understand, but when I saw it in the spaced form, it just looked very odd to me. Since there is more interaction between characters, paragraphing usually occurs when the subject / scene changes.
And as you pointed out about the other cast aside from the Keruko and Nixon, I do realize they were flat in character development. I'm planning on possibly writing up another story, to sort of introduce the crew, because I plan on using them in the future, so re-introducing them in every story is going to seem... awkward.
The river tells no lies. Though standing on the shore the dishonest man still hears them.
Well, literary standard is to use a separate paragraph for each character's speech; if they're speaking one or two lines at a time, with others speaking in between, that can result in a lot of little tiny paragraphs with blank lines between them (since we don't have paragraph indents around here), but that does make it easier to read.
For any upcoming story I may have for the literary challenges, is there any place I can go to find the accurate star dates relative to the game?
I found a converter online, but I don't know what year / month / day it is in the STO universe.
The dates I have in my story are just current with June, 2013.
Also, is there a place in the STO forums to post stories other then just the Literary Challenges? (I'm guessing 10 Forward since it mentions "share fan art, fan fiction" in the description.)
Wouldn't mind introducing my cast.
The river tells no lies. Though standing on the shore the dishonest man still hears them.
Thank you!
I'll get rid of the LCARS theme since nobody seemed to like it, haha. I do like your suggestion of keeping it narrowed down to just dates and log entries, so I'll do that next time.
The other suggestion you mentioned and a few others was how it came as a wall of text.
I can understand, but when I saw it in the spaced form, it just looked very odd to me. Since there is more interaction between characters, paragraphing usually occurs when the subject / scene changes.
And as you pointed out about the other cast aside from the Keruko and Nixon, I do realize they were flat in character development. I'm planning on possibly writing up another story, to sort of introduce the crew, because I plan on using them in the future, so re-introducing them in every story is going to seem... awkward.
The first time one of my major supporting characters (bridge officers0 has anything to say in any of my stories, I always make a point of working in their rank, full name, species, gender and job function before their dialog is over.
Something like:
LCdr. Yoann spoke up from her science station. "Admiral, this wormhole is so unstable, we can't even be sure if there is anything on the other side."
Jesu LaRoca stared at her. "So send a probe through and find out, Teena."
The Bajoran nodded. "Right, sir."
I do this because I want to make sure that anyone reading my stories can immediately pick up on who's who and what they do if they've never read my other work before, and also to remind people who have been following me who does what. (I have a lot of characters - on the Tiburon for instance in a single story I could be using any or all of three tactical officers, half a dozen security officers, three ops officers, two engineers, two science officers so far and a doctor, plus Admiral LaRoca, the first officer and half a dozen civilians.)
Well, literary standard is to use a separate paragraph for each character's speech; if they're speaking one or two lines at a time, with others speaking in between, that can result in a lot of little tiny paragraphs with blank lines between them (since we don't have paragraph indents around here), but that does make it easier to read.
For any upcoming story I may have for the literary challenges, is there any place I can go to find the accurate star dates relative to the game?
I found a converter online, but I don't know what year / month / day it is in the STO universe.
The dates I have in my story are just current with June, 2013.
Also, is there a place in the STO forums to post stories other then just the Literary Challenges? (I'm guessing 10 Forward since it mentions "share fan art, fan fiction" in the description.)
Wouldn't mind introducing my cast.
It can be any day/ year/ stardate you want.
And yes, you can post stories in Ten Forward or dredge up old LC topics and post in them. (Necro rules don't apply)
LC#40 is a catch-all for prior topics going back a couple of years. One of them is entitled "Senior Officers" (#26) so you can post a crew roster in LC #40 under that guise. Or just create a new thread in Ten Forward.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Got mine up. If there are any problems, I will gladly except any advice.
To clear any confusion Zinuzee Lexis is a trill. The host, Lexis, is from the prime universe, while the Trill Symbiote, Zinuzee, is from the Mirror universe, so they don't completely mesh psychologically, making the Symbiote the dominant personality.
Got mine up. If there are any problems, I will gladly except any advice...
Interesting stuff! I really enjoyed your Captain's playfulness as he interacted with Zinuzee.
I think though your last paragraph ended on awkward note. Instead of the passive-voiced "...eyes were what I saw" consider changing to "I saw... eyes, staring back at me."
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Interesting stuff! I really enjoyed your Captain's playfulness as he interacted with Zinuzee.
I think though your last paragraph ended on awkward note. Instead of the passive-voiced "...eyes were what I saw" consider changing to "I saw... eyes, staring back at me."
For any upcoming story I may have for the literary challenges, is there any place I can go to find the accurate star dates relative to the game?
On the loading screens (at the bottom, IIRC), there's a line that gives the current stardate in-game. Other than that, like Sander said, suit yourself.
Morkintash - I'm not saying the colors are bad, just distracting. Using different colors was the norm during the early LCs, so if you like it, then keep it. As for the wall-o-text, it happens and other writers have done it. Frankly, separating the paragraphs and dialogue can make for a VERY loooong entry - all it does is provide a courtesy to the audience because of the technical format of the forum.
In other words, the story is most important - the visual presentation is another matter.
@marcusdkane - A bit humdrum, but I suppose a bit of peace and quiet is in order after all the Valkyrie's been through.
I think I might have to re-build the story to make it a bit more worthwhile... I've had a few ideas I could incorporate, I was just wary of going down the Voyager route, but I might see what I can do... Looking forward to Part 4.5/5 :cool:
I think I might have to re-build the story to make it a bit more worthwhile... I've had a few ideas I could incorporate, I was just wary of going down the Voyager route, but I might see what I can do... Looking forward to Part 4.5/5 :cool:
I disagree. Sure, it's not the same as everything else you have shared in the past, but that's ok. If the topic did not inspire you, but you did present something, then that should be enough. I mean, if you have come up with something else, then fine :cool:
Besides, the Valkyriehas been through a lot ... why not a respite? :P
I disagree. Sure, it's not the same as everything else you have shared in the past, but that's ok. If the topic did not inspire you, but you did present something, then that should be enough. I mean, if you have come up with something else, then fine :cool:
Besides, the Valkyriehas been through a lot ... why not a respite? :P
I think if I don't amend my entry, then I'll be guilty of taking the easy way out, rather than using the LC to challenge myself
@patrickngo: Nice job completing the entry! I really liked how well you captured the personality and bearing of the Emperor!
@aten66: Interesting character, Lexis/Zinuzee. I do wonder if the conflict between the two causes confidence problems with other officers in the crew. Look forward to seeing more!
@shevet: Great story! The way each character reacted to the situation was understandable, and the eventual discovery of their situation was done very well! The divided loyalties of the crews to their home planets once the concept of the Federation was removed was especially effective! Well done!
@cmdrscarlet, Yep I'm adding to it. It wouldn't really match the theme to me leaving it like that.
@danqueller Interesting point. Personnally I believe it just causes headaches if Lexis/Zinuzee comes out, as she is the more... annoying side, because of her partying attitude that may not fit the Starfleet mold. Don't get me wrong she's not a sterotypical blond like that all the time (She has brown hair btw) but she doesn't get out much in a wartime era, causing her to take advantage of freedom when she can.
Hopefully I will get to add another paragraph or two tonight if I get time.
So I just posted my entry. It's another Commander Dylen story that's crazy long, but (I hope) worth the read.
By the way, thanks to the people that read my last entry, and the ones who gave me feedback, I really appreciate it.
(Just did a huge edit to fix the common problems that didn't show up in the preview. I'm going to have to write less or use no dialog next time. That edit hurt. lol)
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He was awesome in the Hercules series!
Review time!
@morkintash - The colors were a little distracting at first, but I got used to it. If you look at LC 1 and some afterward, it seems the community used different colors as a practice. I've considered using colors for specific responses as an alternative to using italics, bold and underlines. Regardless, I'm a fan of Keruko now and I demand you bring him back
@gorvar1 - I'm really appreciating your take on the Gorn and I'm considering playing one in-game. I'm looking forward to what Doutra does with her discovery!
@danqueller - Very nice take on the this particular enemy. Ever read the book "Vendetta"? It's relatively old but it's worth a read because it's this enemy looking for payback against Kirk. Anyways, like the others above I could not stop reading this entry. Well done, sir!
More later
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You get to bite people!
Thanks. :P
Yup, I have. I have some disagreements with the ending (the nature of the Killer would never allow the Borg to adapt to it), but we have to allow that the author was under restrictions as to what could be 'left behind' at the end of the story. The idea that the Doomsday Machines were built to destroy the Borg makes perfect sense (although it might be that the reverse was true from an editorial perspective, given when each was introduced into ST), especially when you see how the Planet Killers hit all of the Borg's weak spots so perfectly. And yes, that is why the Planet Killer in my entry immediately destroyed the Borg Cube on contact...it was fulfilling it's primary function.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Now, since I've finally gotten a chance to read the other entries, I'll throw up some reviews of my own (insert ominous dark music here). Please take any comments as intended to help, not detract, from the work!
Also note that I'm a pretty inexperienced reviewer, so take or leave my reviews with that in mind.
@cosmonaught12345: Interesting read, and a very good job with the narrator's prejudices! I think there is some loss to the story from a lack of background info (you really can't tell if Rose is a Starfleet Officer or a renegade from some of the dialogue
@morkintash: As others have said, the different color text was distracting, but it was the lack of spacing between the lines that made it seem a bit like a 'wall of text'. Great job on the Ferengi accent and terms! I also liked how you made the wormhole passage difficult for the ship, as there seem to be too many views among Trek fiction that wormholes are just big tunnels that you go through without really noticing instead of that sort of wormhole being the rarest kind. One other thing you might try is to italicize ship names to set them apart from other words. Good job!
@marcusdkane: Short and to the point! The entry seems to be a fragment of a story, though, and feels like a placeholder between events, rather than an event itself. Am I right in assuming this is not meant to be a stand-alone piece?
@govar1: I had a bit of confusion when Z'nod was detailed as the "current Commanding Officer" instead of 'Executive Officer' or 'Officer of the Deck', since the 'current' wasn't capitalized as a title normally would (made it seem to me the ship operated with the Captaincy rotating equally among the senior officers, with no permanent CO). Very nice job with the Gorn! It's always great to hear non-human/humanoids speak differently from humans to emphasize that it isn't just the skin scales that are different. As above, you might want to italicize ship names to set them apart. Look forwards to seeing more!
@cmdrscarlet: Nice short piece about possibilities. The idea of a 'negative' universe is one that we only see once in ST and everyone seems to forget afterwards, but it's refreshing to see it here again! I especially like that you reminded the reader that most wormholes a ship might encounter are not stable, and can't be used for passage! Great job!
@patrickngo: Interesting twist to bring the Q-ship concept into the Borg War! I loved how the Herdthinner, despite getting in the first shot, quickly found itself dangerously outgunned in the initial battle (which makes sense in this situation). Attacking even knowing the enemy outmatches your ship is definitely a Klingon trait, and I loved the cultural background injected for the main character! Now, how is this going to end....?
Great work, everyone!
changed the things you suggested, thanks for the read!
Glad to see everyone seems to like the Gorn round these parts.
But the voice in the back of her head isn't a childhood promise of order and security the way it was for Seven of Nine - it's the voice of the thing that devoured her soul and permanently warped her body. She has trouble even being in the same room as other liberated Borg, much less working with their technology. (I've been a little hard on this character, but she was born from the idea that Seven of Nine was entirely too jolly about the Collective...)
@morkintash - Welcome to the party! Your story read a lot like a TNG episode and I enjoyed it a lot. I especially liked your distraught Ferengi ("My ship! My latinum! Nooo!") and the cool-as-a-cucumber way Captain Nixon handled everything. A few suggestions though: As marcusdkane mentioned the LCARS color scheme - while very clever - is a little distracting. I think it would be more effective if you limited its use to stardates and captain's log entries. And your supporting cast wasn't very well described. I derived through context that Cmdr. Buuren was the first officer, for instance, but what species was he? What does he look like? Does he cop an attitude with his Captain or is he totally professional? Just putting in a little bit of information about a character, by way of introduction, goes a long way to draw in the reader's interest.
@marcusdkane - A bit humdrum, but I suppose a bit of peace and quiet is in order after all the Valkyrie's been through.
@gorvar1 - I liked that very much! I especially liked the relationship between Tovan and Doutra, and the semi-psychotic Gorn science officer (always let a sleeping Gorn lie!) I'm looking forward to watching the mystery of Doutra's origin deepen.
@cmdrscarlet - I always enjoy a good TAS reference! I also liked the tension you built between Beringer and Omazei.
@danqueller - fantastic piece! Great description of the PK from a race that had never encountered one before, and I really enjoyed the rivalry between Tosik and Rycho with your anonymous (mysterious!) commander taking a back seat.
@patrickngo - great stuff so far!
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Thank you!
I'll get rid of the LCARS theme since nobody seemed to like it, haha. I do like your suggestion of keeping it narrowed down to just dates and log entries, so I'll do that next time.
The other suggestion you mentioned and a few others was how it came as a wall of text.
I can understand, but when I saw it in the spaced form, it just looked very odd to me. Since there is more interaction between characters, paragraphing usually occurs when the subject / scene changes.
And as you pointed out about the other cast aside from the Keruko and Nixon, I do realize they were flat in character development. I'm planning on possibly writing up another story, to sort of introduce the crew, because I plan on using them in the future, so re-introducing them in every story is going to seem... awkward.
I found a converter online, but I don't know what year / month / day it is in the STO universe.
The dates I have in my story are just current with June, 2013.
Also, is there a place in the STO forums to post stories other then just the Literary Challenges? (I'm guessing 10 Forward since it mentions "share fan art, fan fiction" in the description.)
Wouldn't mind introducing my cast.
Something like:
Jesu LaRoca stared at her. "So send a probe through and find out, Teena."
The Bajoran nodded. "Right, sir."
I do this because I want to make sure that anyone reading my stories can immediately pick up on who's who and what they do if they've never read my other work before, and also to remind people who have been following me who does what. (I have a lot of characters - on the Tiburon for instance in a single story I could be using any or all of three tactical officers, half a dozen security officers, three ops officers, two engineers, two science officers so far and a doctor, plus Admiral LaRoca, the first officer and half a dozen civilians.)
But yeah, paragraph breaks are easier to read.
EDIT:
It can be any day/ year/ stardate you want.
And yes, you can post stories in Ten Forward or dredge up old LC topics and post in them. (Necro rules don't apply)
LC#40 is a catch-all for prior topics going back a couple of years. One of them is entitled "Senior Officers" (#26) so you can post a crew roster in LC #40 under that guise. Or just create a new thread in Ten Forward.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
To clear any confusion Zinuzee Lexis is a trill. The host, Lexis, is from the prime universe, while the Trill Symbiote, Zinuzee, is from the Mirror universe, so they don't completely mesh psychologically, making the Symbiote the dominant personality.
I think though your last paragraph ended on awkward note. Instead of the passive-voiced "...eyes were what I saw" consider changing to "I saw... eyes, staring back at me."
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Thanks! I''ll do that now.
In other words, the story is most important - the visual presentation is another matter.
@aten66 - So ... do you plan to add more later?
@patrickngo - did you just add the rest? Or did you also update some of the original post?
I disagree. Sure, it's not the same as everything else you have shared in the past, but that's ok. If the topic did not inspire you, but you did present something, then that should be enough. I mean, if you have come up with something else, then fine :cool:
Besides, the Valkyrie has been through a lot ... why not a respite? :P
I think if I don't amend my entry, then I'll be guilty of taking the easy way out, rather than using the LC to challenge myself
Added a little extra :cool:
@aten66: Interesting character, Lexis/Zinuzee. I do wonder if the conflict between the two causes confidence problems with other officers in the crew. Look forward to seeing more!
@shevet: Great story! The way each character reacted to the situation was understandable, and the eventual discovery of their situation was done very well! The divided loyalties of the crews to their home planets once the concept of the Federation was removed was especially effective! Well done!
@danqueller Interesting point. Personnally I believe it just causes headaches if Lexis/Zinuzee comes out, as she is the more... annoying side, because of her partying attitude that may not fit the Starfleet mold. Don't get me wrong she's not a sterotypical blond like that all the time (She has brown hair btw) but she doesn't get out much in a wartime era, causing her to take advantage of freedom when she can.
Hopefully I will get to add another paragraph or two tonight if I get time.
By the way, thanks to the people that read my last entry, and the ones who gave me feedback, I really appreciate it.
(Just did a huge edit to fix the common problems that didn't show up in the preview. I'm going to have to write less or use no dialog next time. That edit hurt. lol)