It is a criminal offence in German law to produce images like that except to make accurate historical accounts of TRIBBLE Germany in WW2.
If you don't believe me, I'm sure you can look it up for yourself. Whether you are joking or not, it is inappropriate and could land you in a lot of hot water. Not least it's obscene and offensive and not remotely funny.
It is a criminal offence in German law to produce images like that except to make accurate historical accounts of TRIBBLE Germany in WW2.
If you don't believe me, I'm sure you can look it up for yourself. Whether you are joking or not, it is inappropriate and could land you in a lot of hot water. Not least it's obscene and offensive and not remotely funny.
In America we call that a parody, and it is protected speech. We don't totally hate freedom like our friends across the pond.
Back on topic, seems odd that denalts aren't banned en masse. Wanna know why, because the aren't breaking any rules. Same can't be said for the scores that get reported by Dental Harmony Corps.
The first ammendment does not protect you in that regard as you so fail to understand as it would rightfully cause emotional distress and incites religious hatred and persecution as you use it to describe yourselves as "literally Hitler".
Make that flag up and put it on top of your house, see how far it gets you.
The first ammendment does not protect you in that regard as you so fail to understand as it would rightfully cause emotional distress and incites religious hatred and persecution as you use it to describe yourselves as "literally Hitler".
Make that flag up and put it on top of your house, see how far it gets you.
Once again disingenuous and intentionally misleading, for it to be hate speech it would have to pass these tests.
1. Speech that advocates or encourages violent acts or crimes of hate.
We don't ever encourage hate or violence, in fact we stand up for victims of crime and hate via discrimination.
2. Speech that creates a climate of hate or prejudice, which may in turn foster the commission of hate crimes.
Again, we fight hate and prejudice. We accept all races, sexes, and orientations. We also stand up for their rights to express themselves for what they are.
All of the photoshops that you are talking about are protected speech and parody.
Definition - PARODY - any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
I like to call out trolls for their misdeeds as much as everyone, but you folks ragging on free speech or calling for extreme fascist measures get on my nerves just as much, if not more.
I can see putting a cool-down on party poppers because they affect game performance, and that's hardly draconian... but accusing people of hate speech, or for that matter defamation, is just silly. Limiting costume options and emotes is fascist. Suck it up and give as good as you get.
Free speech ends the second you put on a sheet and set fire to a cross
The Klan are Not speaking they are trying to scare people
and the law will change soon to close down all hate groups on all sides
Free speech comes with the right to have fruit thrown at you however
Stand proud
Stand tall
SHOW YOUR FACE
and sign your name
or shut up
This is un-American but I will defend your right to say it, too bad this is a private companies forum and as such NOT protected and subject to whatever rules they set.
But I will fight you on any action you take against my and every other Americans free speech. But we both know it will never come to that because you couldn't organize a dinner table much less a movement to have the Constitution amended.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
By definition, you limit the free speech of others through your actions on Drozana and other places.
You claim you don't want to be associated with Nazism, but use a mock logo to put forward your "ideology".
If you're so into free speech that you will defend the right of people to be racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic, leave everyone to RP alone whether or not it meets your standard. After all is it not the same free speech you so defend?
By definition, you limit the free speech of others through your actions on Drozana and other places.
You claim you don't want to be associated with Nazism, but use a mock logo to put forward your "ideology".
If you're so into free speech that you will defend the right of people to be racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic, leave everyone to RP alone whether or not it meets your standard. After all is it not the same free speech you so defend?
You don't give up after losing do you?
We defend speech until it crosses the line into illegal. Like RPing sexual acts with minors. That is illegal.
Once again, you should read the intent of the content in our posts. We make fun of those people that would break the law and spread hate. We defend those that are unable or unjustly victims of abuse.
This is the last time I will respond to you because it is quite obvious at this point you are either unwilling or unable to have honest discourse about the subject. Engaging with someone who is being intellectually dishonest is not worth the time or effort, and I would hope that everyone else sees the unhinged posters in this thread are just spreading misinformation because of their own emotional defects.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
We don't need any forceful intervention to stop the Toothers from standing next to folks and spraying them with fire extinguishers in game.
But it is worth pointing out that standing next to folks and spraying them with fire extinguishers really does sort of make you a jerk.
They have the right to be jerks, and we have the right to cell them on it. But crossing into the territory of whining to big brother to make them stop is truly intolerable.
Unless you are a law enforcement official then you have no business stopping anyone doing anything illegal at all. Taking the law and it's enforcement into your own hands is known as extra-judicial enforcement or vigilantism and is often illegal in and of itself.
You portray yourselves as heroes, and you're really not. That's you being intellectually dishonest, not me.
Whether or not you are benign or believe yourselves to be, you don't have the right to decide what people can and can't do, whether in the real world or on the internet.
Guess you can't take a little bit of free speech criticism. Shame that.
This is un-American but I will defend your right to say it, too bad this is a private companies forum and as such NOT protected and subject to whatever rules they set.
But I will fight you on any action you take against my and every other Americans free speech. But we both know it will never come to that because you couldn't organize a dinner table much less a movement to have the Constitution amended.
Im not an American
and the constitution is already amended
more and more with each decade
and anyone going round being racist , hetrophobic , homophobic etc has NO right to avoid having things thrown at them.
as to the "minors" thing its you lot doing suggestive dancing at people
so put your own house in order
put up or shut up
and you can start by dealing with the people who were pesting in command
They have the right to be jerks, and we have the right to cell them on it. But crossing into the territory of whining to big brother to make them stop is truly intolerable.
No one is whining to big brother to make them stop, they should stop for the reasons outlined but they won't, they aren't the law and have no business to tell anyone what to do or not do.
Unless you are a law enforcement official then you have no business stopping anyone doing anything illegal at all. Taking the law and it's enforcement into your own hands is known as extra-judicial enforcement or vigilantism and is often illegal in and of itself.
You portray yourselves as heroes, and you're really not. That's you being intellectually dishonest, not me.
Whether or not you are benign or believe yourselves to be, you don't have the right to decide what people can and can't do, whether in the real world or on the internet.
Guess you can't take a little bit of free speech criticism. Shame that.
I said I wouldn't respond to you again, but I felt this warranted a response to once again show you wrong.
You try to frame the argument with the incorrect assumption that you know what you are talking about. This might work for some of these posters that call us children and have the reading comprehension and writing style of an adolescent. But as you can see we are educated and intelligent people; you aren't dealing with idiots on this one.
I think you might need to take a look at the definition of vigilantism and how it relates to detention and citizens arrest. Vigilantism would require us to be enacting illegal punishment against criminals because we believe they wouldn't be punished or not punished enough.
Citizens of nearly every state can "detain" criminals in the commission of a felony. Engaging a minor in sexual acts, such as erotic roleplay, is illegal and a felony. Since there is no physical presence of the offenders and we have committed no crime against the accused, we aren't vigilantes.
That brings us back full circle to my original point, that you are being intellectually dishonest.
Youknowwhatitis...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Clearly you had to have the last word, or so you thought.
Under US law, citizens can only arrest each other for felonies committed outside their direct presence if and only if, the felony had in actual fact been committed. If in point of fact the people in question were consenting adults, this would not be a felony and you would be liable for false arrest; in this scenario you could also be liable for impersonating a police officer. Both of which are crimes, so by your own definition, you would be a vigilante as you would be attempting to enforce the law without warrant or cause.
Private persons have a far stricter liability with regard to mistake of fact than police officers, so once again you would not be protected under the law of your own country for simply believing this to be the case without any substantive proof. Having a friend who was a minor deliberately engage in these acts in order to catch perpetrators would be considered entrapment, which is also a crime.
This would seem to vary from state to state, but generally is true of California where the Cryptic is based. So arguably that's what applies in this scenario.
A rather academic argument, as you have already stated that laws applying to citizens of other countries don't affect you, so by your own logic not only would you have to prove they were committing a felony, but you would also have to prove they were also US citizens and that the law applied to them in that scenario.
EDIT: I also argue, that you wouldn't be patrolling Drozana to put a stop to the commission of these felonies if you felt that the alleged perpetrators weren't being stopped and or punished by the GM team, whose job it is to prevent that kind of thing from occurring. By preventing them from being in a certain place, you are effectively harassing them.
Under US law, citizens can only arrest each other for felonies committed outside their direct presence if and only if, the felony had in actual fact been committed. If in point of fact the people in question were consenting adults, this would not be a felony and you would be liable for false arrest; in this scenario you could also be liable for impersonating a police officer. Both of which are crimes, so by your own definition, you would be a vigilante as you would be attempting to enforce the law without warrant or cause.
Having a friend who was a minor deliberately engage in these acts in order to catch perpetrators would be considered entrapment, which is also a crime.
A rather academic argument, as you have already stated that laws applying to citizens of other countries don't affect you, so by your own logic not only would you have to prove they were committing a felony, but you would also have to prove they were also US citizens and that the law applied to them in that scenario.
EDIT: I also argue, that you wouldn't be patrolling Drozana to put a stop to the commission of these felonies if you felt that the alleged perpetrators weren't being stopped and or punished by the GM team, whose job it is to prevent that kind of thing from occurring. By preventing them from being in a certain place, you are effectively harassing them.
Starfleet Dental was spawned by one of the vilest cesspools one might find on the internet. Another name for this group would be Goons, Goonswarm etc. and they have their true home on a website called somethingawful.
Goons have only one reason to play a game and that is to troll and to grief and laugh about other players misfortune. Racism and homophobia quite common among this group.
The main reason they are pretending to be vigilantes is that they want to laugh about RP players and possibly make them to quit the game. They also like to provoke others up to the point were they get emotional and say bad words in public channels. When they have their victims at that point they are quick to report the 'misconduct'.
Nothing as sad as a group of professional internet trolls.:P
Edit:
If you do not believe, just look up things like the bridge of death from early 2010, were the entire fleet had made a habit out of getting players stuck on their bridge after an invite. I guess Drozana RP is their new bridge.
If this thread was taken as fact there's a country in Europe where comedy has been out lawed and is in fact closer to George Orwell's 1984. However everyone I have met from that country actually has a sense of humour.
Doing the newly added fan dance is considered harassment by one person. Um, what?
Starfleet Dental will be adding a new role. By the powers vested in me as the General Of Anti Terrorism Special Erotic roleplaying divsion we will now create a counter totalitarianism division. Primarily this division will be focused bring fun back to games and restoring the freedom to laugh no matter how oppressive and OOC the fake roleplayers are.
You broke rule number two by not having read my post to see that I had shown we aren't vigilantes and as such the conversation is terminated.
I proved you were vigilantes because by preventing someone from acting in a lawful manner is a crime. Mere belief that they are committing a crime is not enough.
You state that you act to prevent felonies involving minors from occuring.
Logically the only way you could prove a minor was engaged in this activity would be to either a) be a minor engaging in it yourself or b) knowing the person in a)
Therefore unless a) or b) are satisfied you would be in breach of the law you said you were upholding.
I did not move on, I countered you argument logically, with reliable evidence. I cannot therefore breach rule 2.
Declaring my argument null and void without evidence would be a breach of rule 4.
Starfleet Dental was spawned by one of the vilest cesspools one might find on the internet. Another name for this group would be Goons, Goonswarm etc. and they have their true home on a website called somethingawful.
Goons have only one reason to play a game and that is to troll and to grief and laugh about other players misfortune. Racism and homophobia quite common among this group.
The main reason they are pretending to be vigilantes is that they want to laugh about RP players and possibly make them to quit the game. They also like to provoke others up to the point were they get emotional and say bad words in public channels. When they have their victims at that point they are quick to report the 'misconduct'.
Nothing as sad as a group of professional internet trolls.:P
Edit:
If you do not believe, just look up things like the bridge of death from early 2010, were the entire fleet had made a habit out of getting players stuck on their bridge after an invite. I guess Drozana RP is their new bridge.
Oh I believe, I've looked at their "Motivational Videos" and read their propaganda blog but I am the one accused of intellectual dishonesty.
I proved you were vigilantes because by preventing someone from acting in a lawful manner is a crime. Mere belief that they are committing a crime is not enough.
You state that you act to prevent felonies involving minors from occuring.
Logically the only way you could prove a minor was engaged in this activity would be to either a) be a minor engaging in it yourself or b) knowing the person in a)
Therefore unless a) or b) are satisfied you would be in breach of the law you said you were upholding.
That is a strawman argument. I didn't mention the newly added fan dance, however provocative it may be.
You are making an accusation which is serious and logically flawed. I don't think anyone should be engaging in inappropriate acts with a minor but there is always a risk of people attempting to do this. I cannot go into details in relation to things that have happened in the past as they have all been forwarded to GMs to action. Be careful who you accuse as we have eyes everywhere and report inappropriate actions by any player.
Don't try that strawman gibberish with me. I was referring to sollvax's unusual response. You should try reading the thread before spouting gibberish.
e: Also, not everything in this thread revolves around you. Especially as you aren't even a roleplayer.
My accusation is serious, but it demonstrated by the actions and words of your peer.
You state that you cannot go into details, therefore you do not have any proof in order to justify your peer's justification that you act in order to prevent crime. If you have forwarded it to the GMs attention, logically you would have no further need to prevent anyone from doing any form of role play.
I understand that you report inappropriate actions, however that sounds like you are threatening to report me for actions I have not specifically undertaken, which is ironically inappropriate.
My apologies, it was not my intention to assume it was revolving around me, however I was having an in depth discussion with your colleague and so I did assume that the comment was directed at me.
I may or may not be a role player, that is none of your concern or business and does not detract from my involvement in this argument.
My accusation is serious, but it demonstrated by the actions and words of your peer.
You state that you cannot go into details, therefore you do not have any proof in order to justify your peer's justification that you act in order to prevent crime. If you have forwarded it to the GMs attention, logically you would have no further need to prevent anyone from doing any form of role play.
I understand that you report inappropriate actions, however that sounds like you are threatening to report me for actions I have not specifically undertaken, which is ironically inappropriate.
My apologies, it was not my intention to assume it was revolving around me, however I was having an in depth discussion with your colleague and so I did assume that the comment was directed at me.
I may or may not be a role player, that is none of your concern or business and does not detract from my involvement in this argument.
Your accusation is serious and misdirected. One of the things that you do appear to be aware of is that there are players which are upset about their public erotic roleplaying being interrupted. They try to ruin roleplaying threads by making veiled accusations and lying about our activities. There are crackpots which are actually blaming us for server queues, how would someone even believe something so crazy.
So when you start accusing us of the very thing we continually report in game you are behaving the same way as people that have been reported or may have had some form of sanction against themselves. The way you have worded it it looks like you are involved in these activities. Some careful wording and discussing the topic at hand would be more appropriate.
I do not want to discuss any GM actions or work arounds for systems as this will only encourage more inappropriate behaviour. This is best left off a public forum.
Actually you do not appear to have been discussing roleplaying in this thread so your posting looks more like a derail. This is a roleplaying thread and you are making accusations against the top tier roleplaying guild on the server. Just to clarify you will not be allowed in Dental at any point. Primarily because you are not a roleplayer.
Comments
Sadly we are not from Germany. Those laws do not apply to us armchair lawyer.
In the United States this would be protected speech and parody.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
In America we call that a parody, and it is protected speech. We don't totally hate freedom like our friends across the pond.
Back on topic, seems odd that denalts aren't banned en masse. Wanna know why, because the aren't breaking any rules. Same can't be said for the scores that get reported by Dental Harmony Corps.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Make that flag up and put it on top of your house, see how far it gets you.
not for much longer
Once again disingenuous and intentionally misleading, for it to be hate speech it would have to pass these tests.
1. Speech that advocates or encourages violent acts or crimes of hate.
We don't ever encourage hate or violence, in fact we stand up for victims of crime and hate via discrimination.
2. Speech that creates a climate of hate or prejudice, which may in turn foster the commission of hate crimes.
Again, we fight hate and prejudice. We accept all races, sexes, and orientations. We also stand up for their rights to express themselves for what they are.
All of the photoshops that you are talking about are protected speech and parody.
Definition - PARODY - any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
I can see putting a cool-down on party poppers because they affect game performance, and that's hardly draconian... but accusing people of hate speech, or for that matter defamation, is just silly. Limiting costume options and emotes is fascist. Suck it up and give as good as you get.
The Klan are Not speaking they are trying to scare people
and the law will change soon to close down all hate groups on all sides
Free speech comes with the right to have fruit thrown at you however
Stand proud
Stand tall
SHOW YOUR FACE
and sign your name
or shut up
This is un-American but I will defend your right to say it, too bad this is a private companies forum and as such NOT protected and subject to whatever rules they set.
But I will fight you on any action you take against my and every other Americans free speech. But we both know it will never come to that because you couldn't organize a dinner table much less a movement to have the Constitution amended.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
You make me want to like Dental.
Totalitarian much?
You claim you don't want to be associated with Nazism, but use a mock logo to put forward your "ideology".
If you're so into free speech that you will defend the right of people to be racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic, leave everyone to RP alone whether or not it meets your standard. After all is it not the same free speech you so defend?
You don't give up after losing do you?
We defend speech until it crosses the line into illegal. Like RPing sexual acts with minors. That is illegal.
Once again, you should read the intent of the content in our posts. We make fun of those people that would break the law and spread hate. We defend those that are unable or unjustly victims of abuse.
This is the last time I will respond to you because it is quite obvious at this point you are either unwilling or unable to have honest discourse about the subject. Engaging with someone who is being intellectually dishonest is not worth the time or effort, and I would hope that everyone else sees the unhinged posters in this thread are just spreading misinformation because of their own emotional defects.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
We don't need any forceful intervention to stop the Toothers from standing next to folks and spraying them with fire extinguishers in game.
But it is worth pointing out that standing next to folks and spraying them with fire extinguishers really does sort of make you a jerk.
They have the right to be jerks, and we have the right to cell them on it. But crossing into the territory of whining to big brother to make them stop is truly intolerable.
You portray yourselves as heroes, and you're really not. That's you being intellectually dishonest, not me.
Whether or not you are benign or believe yourselves to be, you don't have the right to decide what people can and can't do, whether in the real world or on the internet.
Guess you can't take a little bit of free speech criticism. Shame that.
Im not an American
and the constitution is already amended
more and more with each decade
and anyone going round being racist , hetrophobic , homophobic etc has NO right to avoid having things thrown at them.
as to the "minors" thing its you lot doing suggestive dancing at people
so put your own house in order
put up or shut up
and you can start by dealing with the people who were pesting in command
No we don't so why have Dental taken it upon themselves to do this?
Yes it does, that's why they have such a bad reputation.
No one is whining to big brother to make them stop, they should stop for the reasons outlined but they won't, they aren't the law and have no business to tell anyone what to do or not do.
I said I wouldn't respond to you again, but I felt this warranted a response to once again show you wrong.
You try to frame the argument with the incorrect assumption that you know what you are talking about. This might work for some of these posters that call us children and have the reading comprehension and writing style of an adolescent. But as you can see we are educated and intelligent people; you aren't dealing with idiots on this one.
I think you might need to take a look at the definition of vigilantism and how it relates to detention and citizens arrest. Vigilantism would require us to be enacting illegal punishment against criminals because we believe they wouldn't be punished or not punished enough.
Citizens of nearly every state can "detain" criminals in the commission of a felony. Engaging a minor in sexual acts, such as erotic roleplay, is illegal and a felony. Since there is no physical presence of the offenders and we have committed no crime against the accused, we aren't vigilantes.
That brings us back full circle to my original point, that you are being intellectually dishonest.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Under US law, citizens can only arrest each other for felonies committed outside their direct presence if and only if, the felony had in actual fact been committed. If in point of fact the people in question were consenting adults, this would not be a felony and you would be liable for false arrest; in this scenario you could also be liable for impersonating a police officer. Both of which are crimes, so by your own definition, you would be a vigilante as you would be attempting to enforce the law without warrant or cause.
Private persons have a far stricter liability with regard to mistake of fact than police officers, so once again you would not be protected under the law of your own country for simply believing this to be the case without any substantive proof. Having a friend who was a minor deliberately engage in these acts in order to catch perpetrators would be considered entrapment, which is also a crime.
This would seem to vary from state to state, but generally is true of California where the Cryptic is based. So arguably that's what applies in this scenario.
A rather academic argument, as you have already stated that laws applying to citizens of other countries don't affect you, so by your own logic not only would you have to prove they were committing a felony, but you would also have to prove they were also US citizens and that the law applied to them in that scenario.
EDIT: I also argue, that you wouldn't be patrolling Drozana to put a stop to the commission of these felonies if you felt that the alleged perpetrators weren't being stopped and or punished by the GM team, whose job it is to prevent that kind of thing from occurring. By preventing them from being in a certain place, you are effectively harassing them.
I know that people RP privately. I'm not interested in joining in on that. I just want a public RP place I can hang out and see what people are up to.
Sure, Drozana wasn't hardcore RP or anything, but people hung out there and were in-character.
Affirmative conclusion
Straw Man
Argument from repetition
Ad hominem via poisoning the well.
How a debate works.
You broke rule number two by not having read my post to see that I had shown we aren't vigilantes and as such the conversation is terminated.
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Goons have only one reason to play a game and that is to troll and to grief and laugh about other players misfortune. Racism and homophobia quite common among this group.
The main reason they are pretending to be vigilantes is that they want to laugh about RP players and possibly make them to quit the game. They also like to provoke others up to the point were they get emotional and say bad words in public channels. When they have their victims at that point they are quick to report the 'misconduct'.
Nothing as sad as a group of professional internet trolls.:P
Edit:
If you do not believe, just look up things like the bridge of death from early 2010, were the entire fleet had made a habit out of getting players stuck on their bridge after an invite. I guess Drozana RP is their new bridge.
Doing the newly added fan dance is considered harassment by one person. Um, what?
Starfleet Dental will be adding a new role. By the powers vested in me as the General Of Anti Terrorism Special Erotic roleplaying divsion we will now create a counter totalitarianism division. Primarily this division will be focused bring fun back to games and restoring the freedom to laugh no matter how oppressive and OOC the fake roleplayers are.
so did Khan
somewhere there is a kirk with your name on it
This is know as projection. You are projecting your poor behaviour onto others and blaming those around you for your behaviour.
You should relax instead of getting angry about video games. In addition you should embrace democracy and the rule of law.
I proved you were vigilantes because by preventing someone from acting in a lawful manner is a crime. Mere belief that they are committing a crime is not enough.
You state that you act to prevent felonies involving minors from occuring.
Logically the only way you could prove a minor was engaged in this activity would be to either a) be a minor engaging in it yourself or b) knowing the person in a)
Therefore unless a) or b) are satisfied you would be in breach of the law you said you were upholding.
I did not move on, I countered you argument logically, with reliable evidence. I cannot therefore breach rule 2.
Declaring my argument null and void without evidence would be a breach of rule 4.
Oh I believe, I've looked at their "Motivational Videos" and read their propaganda blog but I am the one accused of intellectual dishonesty.
That is a strawman argument. I didn't mention the newly added fan dance, however provocative it may be.
You are making an accusation which is serious and logically flawed. I don't think anyone should be engaging in inappropriate acts with a minor but there is always a risk of people attempting to do this. I cannot go into details in relation to things that have happened in the past as they have all been forwarded to GMs to action. Be careful who you accuse as we have eyes everywhere and report inappropriate actions by any player.
Don't try that strawman gibberish with me. I was referring to sollvax's unusual response. You should try reading the thread before spouting gibberish.
e: Also, not everything in this thread revolves around you. Especially as you aren't even a roleplayer.
You state that you cannot go into details, therefore you do not have any proof in order to justify your peer's justification that you act in order to prevent crime. If you have forwarded it to the GMs attention, logically you would have no further need to prevent anyone from doing any form of role play.
I understand that you report inappropriate actions, however that sounds like you are threatening to report me for actions I have not specifically undertaken, which is ironically inappropriate.
My apologies, it was not my intention to assume it was revolving around me, however I was having an in depth discussion with your colleague and so I did assume that the comment was directed at me.
I may or may not be a role player, that is none of your concern or business and does not detract from my involvement in this argument.
You mean shoot people who grief in the back side with a phaser??
(the rule of law means you take down the bad guy and you are the bad guys)
Democracy is where the majority tell the minority to stop griefing
See the rule of law has nothing what so ever with dressing up as a sewage worker and chasing people about interfering with their lives
its also got nothing to do with performing weird dances near normal people with the intention of making them report you
Remember normal people thing You are a pain in the backside most of the time
you are a minority
a really TINY minority
so put some clothes on
and stop harrassing the normal folks
Your accusation is serious and misdirected. One of the things that you do appear to be aware of is that there are players which are upset about their public erotic roleplaying being interrupted. They try to ruin roleplaying threads by making veiled accusations and lying about our activities. There are crackpots which are actually blaming us for server queues, how would someone even believe something so crazy.
So when you start accusing us of the very thing we continually report in game you are behaving the same way as people that have been reported or may have had some form of sanction against themselves. The way you have worded it it looks like you are involved in these activities. Some careful wording and discussing the topic at hand would be more appropriate.
I do not want to discuss any GM actions or work arounds for systems as this will only encourage more inappropriate behaviour. This is best left off a public forum.
Actually you do not appear to have been discussing roleplaying in this thread so your posting looks more like a derail. This is a roleplaying thread and you are making accusations against the top tier roleplaying guild on the server. Just to clarify you will not be allowed in Dental at any point. Primarily because you are not a roleplayer.