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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    yahtzeeman wrote: »
    People who say "Just buy an Attack Ship from the Exchange" obviously haven't checked the Exchange lately. JHAS run between 350-400m EC at the moment, which is far out of most players' price range. And since JHAS can no longer be acquired, it is entirely unreasonable to restrict carrier pets for a ship that was bought for 800 Lobi.

    Be moderately clever and buy the damn things when they fall to around 200m, which they have numerous times over the past year. If you can't make that much money, take a basic economics class, pay special attention to supply and demand, look at what type of items are likely to be in demand with future content, and play the exchange.
  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bpharma wrote: »
    No, they were not. They were a ploy to increase demand for the JHAS as they were bringing up a chance to win them again.

    Also what makes me think I should be able to buy frigates for my carrier WHICH CRYPTIC HAS MADE MONEY FROM MY ACQUIRING IT?

    I'll say it again, all other carriers that have frigates, even the Tholian recluse have their frigates available just by owning the carrier. The Recluse is a direct comparison and it does not require you to own any other ship than the carrier that it is to be used on. That is why we should have been able to get the JHAS pets from day one without this get a JHAS for each character that you want to have them on rubbish.

    That is not how the world works, you aren't entitled to a damn thing. The JHAS are obviously on a different level than the other carrier pets, and they require extra effort to get. Suck it up and stop whining.
  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    talien wrote: »
    I see you're one of "those" people with reading comprehension issues. That or you've the attention span of a gnat and read the first line then skipped the rest. Either way.

    Yes they are indeed losing money from myself and many others because of bad decisions like this. Near 500 USD I haven't spend on this game since I decided I didn't like the way they did business with lockboxes, the lobi store, and moving from account unlocks to per character unlocks for some cstore items. I decided against a LTS, the legacy pack, and a large number of other cstore purchases because I'm not going to support cryptic financially until I see some business decisions I can agree with, and I'm most definitely not alone.

    I see your one of those people who are too incompetent to buy the ships on the end of a release cycle when they are at 200m.

    I buy them at 200 and turn around and sell them at 400 a few months later. I haven't bought a key in forever, I get everything with EC... And I probably play less than 10 hours a week.

    Making EC in this game is ridiculously easy. I turned 50m in plasma consoles into about 300m just by not having my head up my rear and realizing the new Romulan reputation weapons where going to create a huge demand, that sort of stuff happens constantly. If you feel the need to spend $500 to obtain a ship, that's a personal problem, the game gives you everything you need to get what you want without spending a dime.

    If you honestly think they're losing money on this deal, you're hopeless and I can only hope for your sake you don't have an actual job in marketing.
  • foundrelicfoundrelic Member Posts: 1,380 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    yahtzeeman wrote: »
    People who say "Just buy an Attack Ship from the Exchange" obviously haven't checked the Exchange lately. JHAS run between 350-400m EC at the moment, which is far out of most players' price range. And since JHAS can no longer be acquired, it is entirely unreasonable to restrict carrier pets for a ship that was bought for 800 Lobi.

    So start saving. EC is not hard to make, it may take a few months but you CAN make the amount without spending a dime of real money.


    If you're not willing to put in any effort, quit complaining.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    sorry but if any one here really thinks player are spending 300 mill to 400 mill EC for that one ship sorry but your crazy for thinking it and if some one dose spending that much waste of money for they could have got a life time sub for that

    also look at the number count of them on that exchange

    also ppl can say all day save up EC till the cows come home do the math of how long it would take to save up 300 or 400 mill EC
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • tequilapastatequilapasta Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, I don't see the problem?

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  • contrarydecisioncontrarydecision Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    sorry but if any one here really thinks player are spending 300 mill to 400 mill EC for that one ship sorry but your crazy for thinking it and if some one dose spending that much waste of money for they could have got a life time sub for that

    also look at the number count of them on that exchange

    also ppl can say all day save up EC till the cows come home do the math of how long it would take to save up 300 or 400 mill EC

    I got mine at 350m. Well worth it, honestly. And who the hell can buy a lifetime sub for 300-400m EC? I'd gladly pay that. :V
    Sorry, I don't see the problem?

    http://i.imgur.com/Bftx7oB.jpg

    See this dude knows where its at. Saup JHAS hoarding buddy?
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I got mine at 350m. Well worth it, honestly. And who the hell can buy a lifetime sub for 300-400m EC? I'd gladly pay that. :V

    well to save up that much EC would become a full time job 24/7 sorry im not going to do that so for me that leaves real money you want to add up how many keys I would need to sell to get 300 or 400 mill EC so yes I could have got a new life time for my 2ed account for that much
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, I don't see the problem?

    http://i.imgur.com/Bftx7oB.jpg

    for all I know that on the test server and if not sorry what you want to give me one seen you have way tooooo many on you hand that will more then likely set there for years because no one really going to pay 300 or 400 mill EC unless they are rich


    also for all I know them could be a lot of JHD or JHHE
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, I don't see the problem?

    http://i.imgur.com/Bftx7oB.jpg

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  • contrarydecisioncontrarydecision Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    well to save up that much EC would become a full time job 24/7 sorry im not going to do that so for me that leaves real money you want to add up how many keys I would need to sell to get 300 or 400 mill EC so yes I could have got a new life time for my 2ed account for that much

    Grind Ker'rat, do STFs, etc. Craft mk 12 consoles. Or just play the exchange. The more money you make the more money you can throw around and the more your profits will be. Not that hard. :D
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Grind Ker'rat, do STFs, etc. Craft mk 12 consoles. Or just play the exchange. The more money you make the more money you can throw around and the more your profits will be. Not that hard. :D

    you may like or want to put 24/7 to make that type of money or for all I know you paid real money to get it thing is this is the net and I go by this "Nothing is True... Everything is Permited"

    I play games for fun not for it to become a job

    and also you can only craft MK 11 that don't sell for TRIBBLE
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    well to save up that much EC would become a full time job 24/7 sorry im not going to do that so for me that leaves real money you want to add up how many keys I would need to sell to get 300 or 400 mill EC so yes I could have got a new life time for my 2ed account for that much

    yeah, it would probably take you that amount of time...everybody else can do it with less than 10 hours per week...

    it is obviously that those people that have the least idea of how to "play" the exchange or earn EC by playing, whine the loudest.
    For them i have one advice...get informed.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    and also you can only craft MK 11 that don't sell for TRIBBLE
    orly?

    http://www.stowiki.org/Children%27s_Toys#4._Fabricate_a_console

    "This assignment awards an Uncommon or better Mk XII console."

    okay, technically it's fabricating and not crafting, but i consider those to be the same thing

    others may not, but...*shrugs* oh well
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    okay, technically it's fabricating and not crafting, but i consider those to be the same thing

    one that is you and 2 you made my point
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • tequilapastatequilapasta Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    for all I know that on the test server and if not sorry what you want to give me one seen you have way tooooo many on you hand that will more then likely set there for years because no one really going to pay 300 or 400 mill EC unless they are rich


    also for all I know them could be a lot of JHD or JHHE

    Jem'Hadar attack ships: http://i.imgur.com/9Mi3hsS.jpg

    Jem'Hadar Dreadnoughts: http://i.imgur.com/ihr56Rl.jpg

    Notice the different icons. I don't have the poor man's version of the carrier to show you, but it's got a different icon too.

    Also: New Drozana is on Tribble, you'll note that's old Drozana. Hence, not tribble.

    I'm sorry you're space-poor and/or bad at this game.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm sorry you're space-poor and/or bad at this game.

    trust me im not poor or bad at this game have you ever played with me ???? for you to say im bad you would have to play with me and not try and put me down


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    owns the zstore of all things ive wanted owns all 3 of tholian ships owns a JHD and JHHE nex time you want to call some one bad or poor have some facts to back it up note my title on here also

    trust me if there is something I want in this game I can have its a matter of time and how much and or how much im willing to fight for it but I don't have 100$ to dump in every month for lil gimmick's like this every month


    but im not going to turn a game in to a job so I can make greedy ppl like cryptic happy
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • gardatgardat Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    trust me im not poor or bad at this game have you ever played with me ???? for you to say im bad you would have to play with me and not try and put me down


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    owns the zstore owns all 3 of tholian ships owns a JHD and JHHE nex time you want to call some one bad or poor have some facts to back it up note my title on here also

    You know he has "career officer" too. I do as well.

    Not sure why you're claiming it gives you some kind of special knowledge, privilege or wealth.

    Mind you, if you consider yourself space-wealthy you'll be one of us with Jem'Hadar attack ships, correct? I got two from my first 12 packs which I bought with EC. :cool:
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    gardat wrote: »
    You know he has "career officer" too. I do as well.

    Not sure why you're claiming it gives you some kind of special knowledge, privilege or wealth.

    Mind you, if you consider yourself space-wealthy you'll be one of us with Jem'Hadar attack ships, correct? I got two from my first 12 packs which I bought with EC. :cool:

    ya I don't gamble I don't even play card games for money and I was not here had left at the time JHAS first came out was way bored of the game at the time and don't come back with the doff packs I don't gamble

    I buy master key and flood exchange and EC I make from that i use to buy my lock box ship

    but to do that i would have to spend 300$ no ty
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    ya I don't gamble I don't even play card games for money and I was not here had left at the time JHAS first came out was way bored of the game at the time and don't come back with the doff packs I don't gamble

    I buy master key and flood exchange and EC I make from that i use to buy my lock box ship

    but to do that i would have to spend 300$ no ty

    I guess you won't be getting a JHAS then. Tough luck.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    xantris wrote: »
    I guess you won't be getting a JHAS then. Tough luck.

    and that why me and other will be right here fighting for them pets or as you call it QQing so guess Tough luck you see more fighting for what we want :)
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    and that why me and other will be right here fighting for them pets or as you call it QQing so guess Tough luck you see more fighting for what we want :)


    If you spent half as much time playing the game and using your brain on the exchange to make EC, you'd already have the damn things.

    Doesn't matter, no amount of QQing on the forums is going to change it.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    xantris wrote: »
    If you spent half as much time playing the game and using your brain on the exchange to make EC, you'd already have the damn things.

    Doesn't matter, no amount of QQing on the forums is going to change it.

    stop attacking me for one and i remind of of the start of season 7 no amount of you QQing is going to stop me for fighting for what i want
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  • tequilapastatequilapasta Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    So your argument is:

    "The game includes a way to get JHAS pets.

    I am too bad at this game to acquire the pets in the existing, fair, and balanced way. Instead, I will sit on the forums and whine about how unfair it is that Cryptic aren't prepared to give me stuff to which I am not entitled and for which I have done nothing".

    Does that about cover it? Because it's seriously not that difficult to get these things just by playing the game; no real money involved.

    I managed to do it, and I'm not even space-wealthy.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry, I don't see the problem?

    http://i.imgur.com/Bftx7oB.jpg
    So your argument is:

    "The game includes a way to get JHAS pets.

    I am too bad at this game to acquire the pets in the existing, fair, and balanced way. Instead, I will sit on the forums and whine about how unfair it is that Cryptic aren't prepared to give me stuff to which I am not entitled and for which I have done nothing".

    Does that about cover it? Because it's seriously not that difficult to get these things just by playing the game; no real money involved.

    I managed to do it, and I'm not even space-wealthy.

    that your 2EC of things not mine keep that in mind and when you link that pic of a hole bag full of them you told me all i needed to know why you don't want owner of just the JHD to have them what that 100 bill in there?
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    The game really needs to focus less on Carriers, IMO. We're playing Star Trek not Battlestar Galactica. I shouldn't be watching videos of Carriers soloing STFs. Not in a Star Trek game.

    All the carriers in this game I have are named after BSG ships because I feel more like Admiral Adama than Kirk in this game when I fly one. lol

    But on the uptick, at least I get to be Admiral Adama and not Lee in this game. In BSGO, I am still flying a Viper. lol
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  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    xantris wrote: »
    I see your one of those people who are too incompetent to buy the ships on the end of a release cycle when they are at 200m.

    I buy them at 200 and turn around and sell them at 400 a few months later. I haven't bought a key in forever, I get everything with EC... And I probably play less than 10 hours a week.

    Making EC in this game is ridiculously easy. I turned 50m in plasma consoles into about 300m just by not having my head up my rear and realizing the new Romulan reputation weapons where going to create a huge demand, that sort of stuff happens constantly. If you feel the need to spend $500 to obtain a ship, that's a personal problem, the game gives you everything you need to get what you want without spending a dime.

    If you honestly think they're losing money on this deal, you're hopeless and I can only hope for your sake you don't have an actual job in marketing.

    Yup. Reading comprehension issues. You apparently missed the part where I said I don't have and don't care about getting any of the JH ships, I said nothing about not being able to afford to get one if I so choose.

    You're a funny guy.
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,332 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    People please calm down this thread is gonna be shutdown at this rate because its turning out like the old one with a handful of people basically saying "You can't have this" while occasionally resorting to flaming/trolling and while the majority says "We should have this and here is why" and honestly the nay Sayers argument is basically the we should shut up and they don't really give a reason other than the we say so. I for one still believe we can change this just like how we got dilithium and drops put back in stfs, got the klingons to get real content, and got the stf sets more easily available to all(although admittedly they are far more time consuming now to obtain). When we band together we can get them to change stuff.
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  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    westx211 wrote: »
    People please calm down this thread is gonna be shutdown at this rate because its turning out like the old one with a handful of people basically saying "You can't have this" while occasionally resorting to flaming/trolling and while the majority says "We should have this and here is why" and honestly the nay Sayers argument is basically the we should shut up and they don't really give a reason other than the we say so. I for one still believe we can change this just like how we got dilithium and drops put back in stfs, got the klingons to get real content, and got the stf sets more easily available to all(although admittedly they are far more time consuming now to obtain). When we band together we can get them to change stuff.

    Two or three people repeatedly going 'GIVE US THE BUGPETS RIGHT NOW! I'LL THROW A TANTRUM UNTIL IT HAPPENS! I MEAN IT!' is not a majority of people saying they should have it.

    This has been what, the fifteenth thread on this? The fact the moderators allow you to keep opening and posting on this when it's clear Cryptic is not going to give you bugpets is insane. If you devoted as much time to gathering ec as you do to ranting in this thread you'd have a bugship by now.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    it does not need to be a bug ship. an equivalent frigate pet will do.
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