I was just on Nukara Prime myself, I did two missions (four counting the last patch) and haven't received a single nukara mark. I have no idea what you have to do to get them since they aren't coming off of the missions there. Also, the crystal mining is really bad. You're lucky if you get 10 crystals before a tholian respawns and the damage forces the node to finish. At least in my experience.
They aren't hooked up to the missions yet, if they ever will be. So you must be circuitous. Run those missions, open the crates you get as rewards, and turn in the purple Crystalline Shell gear for Nukara marks.
They aren't hooked up to the missions yet, if they ever will be. So you must be circuitous. Run those missions, open the crates you get as rewards, and turn in the purple Crystalline Shell gear for Nukara marks.
So, you have to do the hard ones then? That doesn't really sound like a lot of fun. Though I do have a few extra suits lying around.
So, you have to do the hard ones then? That doesn't really sound like a lot of fun. Though I do have a few extra suits lying around.
I think, but am not sure, that you can get the Crystalline Shell gear from any grade of mission. I know I've never managed to do the Nukara hard missions (when I did them they were bugged, and I never went back after they were supposedly fixed).
I spent like 25 bucks about a month ago to upgrade my Crystaline set...
I agree that then putting the Crystaline set into the rep system is pretty much BS. I didn't get it nor am I planning to get it but it seems wrong to me.
Not only does it feel like a betrayal to players that DID choose to spend cash it also undermines all future Lobi store items. Or are they going to abandon the Lobi store now, like they've abandoned the C-store?
I was on Tribble earlier, checking out all the changes: Warp cores, tholian rep, etc etc.
I was looking at Tholian rep, and in the upgrades part of it, I saw that you could slot a project to turn one of the three pieces of the original Tholian ground set (not upgraded) into Nukara marks.
Is this temporary for Tribble? To allow people to actually get some marks and do the missions? Or will it be a part of the actual rep in the future?
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I just wonder if the Nukara missions will stop giving out fleet marks in favor of Nukara marks.
I mean, it makes sense. You don't need to be in a fleet to access nukara or run the missions.
Well when season 7 hit, Deferi was hit hard with the fleet mark nerf-bat. It was virtually worthless to do it at all for months until they changed it back a few weeks ago.
Wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a similar stunt with Nukara and snatched any value of FMs out of it. I hope they don't though. Because as of now, there's no real info on what other ways to get Nukara marks aside from Nukara, so if they nerf that, it certainly won't make people interested in it anymore than they are now. If anything, they'll hate going there because of how annoying it can be.
Plus it has been nerfed/fixed once in the past before. Many months ago when season 6 first hit, you could mega-grind on Nukara. Tedious like you wouldn't believe, but it was EXTREMELY good at gathering fleet marks. Like hundreds of them in those two hours per person.
And if you pre-grinded Nukara on toon or two before hand (doing the easy and medium exteriors, along with at least the hard exterior and possibly hard interior); having 1000 FMs or more was easily obtainable per person.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Are they going to be added to the test items guy over in DS9 when they're added? (if they havent already)
If you're afraid it'll discourage people from testing eventual tholian events just add another tribble test reward for playing on them for a few hours or something.
The Nukara Reputation is filled with placeholder information that could change with each patch. It's best to not make any assumptions about the current state.
Wait until Patch Notes are released that detail the features of the Reputation - its rewards, its related content, etc. At that point, it will be relatively safe to assume that what you see, is what you'll get on Holodeck (give-or-take some fine tuning).
For the time being, we're not prepared to answer questions regarding the details of a system that is still in flux.
Jeremy Randall
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
The Nukara Reputation is filled with placeholder information that could change with each patch. It's best to not make any assumptions about the current state.
Wait until Patch Notes are released that detail the features of the Reputation - its rewards, its related content, etc. At that point, it will be relatively safe to assume that what you see, is what you'll get on Holodeck (give-or-take some fine tuning).
For the time being, we're not prepared to answer questions regarding the details of a system that is still in flux.
Hmm...guess this answers my question well enough for now.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Wait until Patch Notes are released that detail the features of the Reputation - its rewards, its related content, etc. At that point, it will be relatively safe to assume that what you see, is what you'll get on Holodeck (give-or-take some fine tuning).
For the time being, we're not prepared to answer questions regarding the details of a system that is still in flux.
Does this also apply to things like Traits? i.e. now that Trait info has been posted to Tribble patch notes, are these pretty much the traits that we're going to be getting on Holodeck?
Or is the system "still in flux"? (I hope so! Feedback time! )
Hey devs? Can you not do what you did with the New Romulus reputation and give us repeatable missions that award moderately large amounts of marks instead of a host of low mark reward dailies and repeatables that award more Fleet Marks than reputation marks despite being "advertised" as being primarily reputation mark reward missions?
Here's how it works: You pay to get something now and avoid the grind, or you grind to avoid paying money.
You folks have paid money, so not only have you getten stuff much earlier, you don't have to grind.
Sounds about right for F2P to me.
As for the rep system itself:
I really hope the sets have a special set bonus when fitted to Tholian ships. So far, the Tholian ships are the only lock box/lobi ships that don't have at least one set that gives them special bonuses.
I like the sound of that tier 5 trait; since science abilites have been nerfed to hell and back, science ships could use a bit of a boost in the damage department.
They said they are adding a fleet asset sometime after the Romulan update; I hope it gives consoles that boost tholian rep gear in much the same was as the embassy gear boosts Romulan rep gear. I am personally hoping for engineering consoles that either add a chance to do some shield stripping or buff tetryon weapons (since Tet is what the Tholian stuff is)
Hey devs? Can you not do what you did with the New Romulus reputation and give us repeatable missions that award moderately large amounts of marks instead of a host of low mark reward dailies and repeatables that award more Fleet Marks than reputation marks despite being "advertised" as being primarily reputation mark reward missions?
Have to agree.
The Borg missons have it right for a payout balance. The Romulan missions... not so much. And the disparity between them is pretty hard to explain away since having one done right gives you a clear template to work off of for the other.
I made Tier V Romulan based entirely off the Daily Sector Patrol for 60 marks per day, but I didn't get any equipment. If I had... I might still be at it.
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I think the things I'm most interested in, personally, are the stats for the Refracted Tetryon Hyper Dual Beam Bank.
To devs: please, for the love of all that is pure and good in this world, give it at least [Acc]x2. Anything else is just an extra. Without decent accuracy, its pvp viability is enormously impaired and it becomes borderline worthless to those who fighting intelligent opponents.
Then of course theres the special flavour of the refracted tetryons. I'm betting we'll see Tet weapons with a secondary disruptor proc, which would be awesome on a number of levels. So long as they keep the tetryon energy type for compatibility with the tier 5 power and existing consoles I'm happy.
The stats and set bonuses for the two new tholian space sets could also be good. This is a chance for them to FINALLY add more flavour to pvp viable end game equipment, other than just current STF sets and elite fleet shield. If it is roughly on par with other sets, heres to hoping it doesnt have an innate tet resist, which would be the biggest own goal in game history.
On a side note, I guess its too much too hope for Tholian bridge officers and captain species down the road?
Has anyone been able to catch a glimpse at the requisitions yet on tribble???
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Then of course theres the special flavour of the refracted tetryons. I'm betting we'll see Tet weapons with a secondary disruptor proc, which would be awesome on a number of levels. So long as they keep the tetryon energy type for compatibility with the tier 5 power and existing consoles I'm happy.?
What makes you think it will be a disruptor proc?
I do admit I am a bit unsure what the second proc could be, on the one hand, Tholians seem to use Tetryon/phaser hybrids, but on the other, we already have those via lock box.
Beyond tholian rep, though, I hope the next fleet asset has a buff to tetryons like how the Embassy buffs Plasma. Whenever we get a rep system, the fleet asset should match for some synergy.
So I sadly don't have enough Nukara marks to unlock the Tholian Refracting Tetryon weapons, but I can see the console stats:
From the Tier 2 Nukara Strike Force Reputation:
Universal Console- Nukara Particle Converter
Very Rare Universal Console- Cannot Equip More than One Of This Item
+5 Shield Power Setting
+17.3 Starship Power Insulators
+17.3 Starship Particle Generators
+10% Accuracy With Beam Weapons
Immediate first thought: I love the idea. Gives a nice boost to beams for cruisers and science ships, and seems to fit with the Tholian's idea of heavy reliance on beam weapons.
Really? Particle generators?
I didn't really see that many exotic damages being thrown out by Tholians, they seem to use more disables and drains, so Subspace Decompiler or Flow Capacitors would fit better with their theme.
Beyond that, FlowCap boosts the proc on Tetryon weapons, so having that would synergize better with the rest of the Tholian Rep gear.
So I sadly don't have enough Nukara marks to unlock the Tholian Refracting Tetryon weapons, but I can see the console stats:
From the Tier 2 Nukara Strike Force Reputation:
Universal Console- Nukara Particle Converter
Very Rare Universal Console- Cannot Equip More than One Of This Item
+5 Shield Power Setting
+17.3 Starship Power Insulators
+17.3 Starship Particle Generators
+10% Accuracy With Beam Weapons
Immediate first thought: I love the idea. Gives a nice boost to beams for cruisers and science ships, and seems to fit with the Tholian's idea of heavy reliance on beam weapons.
The boost to beams is nice, but I doubt anyone will use beam arrays anymore if the current changes to EPtX go live as is.
The Nukara Reputation is filled with placeholder information that could change with each patch. It's best to not make any assumptions about the current state.
Wait until Patch Notes are released that detail the features of the Reputation - its rewards, its related content, etc. At that point, it will be relatively safe to assume that what you see, is what you'll get on Holodeck (give-or-take some fine tuning).
For the time being, we're not prepared to answer questions regarding the details of a system that is still in flux.
There has already been a dev blog post about the Nukara reputation system, but I have yet to see anything about it in the patch notes. Will the new passives, abilities, and equipment be added to the DS9 vendor on Tribble for testing before Legacy of Romulus launches?
So I sadly don't have enough Nukara marks to unlock the Tholian Refracting Tetryon weapons, but I can see the console stats:
From the Tier 2 Nukara Strike Force Reputation:
Universal Console- Nukara Particle Converter
Very Rare Universal Console- Cannot Equip More than One Of This Item
+5 Shield Power Setting
+17.3 Starship Power Insulators
+17.3 Starship Particle Generators
+10% Accuracy With Beam Weapons
Immediate first thought: I love the idea. Gives a nice boost to beams for cruisers and science ships, and seems to fit with the Tholian's idea of heavy reliance on beam weapons.
Sounds perfect to me. I wonder if the tier 5 click ability (the isoetric charge esque tetryon burst ability will get a boost from perticle gens.)
At the very least it makes beams a more viable choice for pvp, especially since we're getting the special dual beam bank. I reckon it would be worth even without the acc bonus just for the boost to shield power and insulators.
Putting 15k dil aside for this one.
EDIT: I dont suppose you can see the name/details of the set bonuses?
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EDIT: I dont suppose you can see the name/details of the set bonuses?
The names, but not the bonuses.
Set 2: Tetryon Amplification
Set 3: Refracting Assault
if I was a gambling man, I'd bet that the Set 2 bonus is +7.6% Tetryon damage and +15.2 to particle generators. I'm fairly confident on the former, the latter is just guesswork based on what else is buffed in the Tholian reputation system.
If I were to further gamble, with even less certainty, I would say that Set 3 is probably a click power, two minute recharge, which provides either a special refractive BFAW power or upgrades the Hyper Beam Bank to fire a super-refractive pulse.
What can I say, more grind, at least a month, you got 10 toons, prepare to do another 10 toon repu, awesome!
Oh wait i forgot about the new romulan toons you all wanted to create, triple repu now on all of them happy grinding to tier 5! We all love it so much.
And for the tip of the iceberg, newcomers to PvP enjoy this part the most, it adds another 1/2 months before they are equally viable as other PvPers with the same advantage. Widen the already huge gap between newbies and old skool players even more. Yay!
What can I say, great.
I would seriously consider putting in a Z-store token of 2000 zen to simply let us buy our way to Tier 5, because I certainly will buy that.
Its kinda sad, because I actually kinda like the reputation system, the grind is just way too long and time consuming.
What's the changes they were making to award boxes from missions? Weren't they adding in nakura marks to the current boxes; or are new boxes dropping? My brain is fried..lol
Set 2: Tetryon Amplification
Set 3: Refracting Assault
if I was a gambling man, I'd bet that the Set 2 bonus is +7.6% Tetryon damage and +15.2 to particle generators. I'm fairly confident on the former, the latter is just guesswork based on what else is buffed in the Tholian reputation system.
If I were to further gamble, with even less certainty, I would say that Set 3 is probably a click power, two minute recharge, which provides either a special refractive BFAW power or upgrades the Hyper Beam Bank to fire a super-refractive pulse.
Cheers for the info, and I must say as a huge fan of tetryon weapons who has invested in high end tet consoles, its good to hear they'll be getting a buff. Their blue colour is perfect for my Charal.
The tier 5 click power is also apparently boosted by tetryon consoles, making them an even better choice.
Now to go and spend all my ec on tetryon tac consoles so I can sell them at a huge profit when LoR goes live and all the pvpers rush to change to tet weapons. MWAHAHAHA.
The consoles giving an acc bonus to beams is also great news, since it means the hyper dual beam bank will definitely be at least somewhat viable in pvp. That and itll also be a much needed buff to cruisers/sience ships.
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This is complete BS.
There is a Register Lobi set project which gets you some nakura marks and DILITHIUM so not a complete waste. Those who have made the purchase are being given something extra to those who have not.
I know this won't affect a ton of people but the new Tholian space set looks great if you bought a Lobi store shuttle and actually want to use a set without having to scrap your 300 lobi deflector dish bonus.
I'm still assuming we're getting shuttle content. Fingers crossed.
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They aren't hooked up to the missions yet, if they ever will be. So you must be circuitous. Run those missions, open the crates you get as rewards, and turn in the purple Crystalline Shell gear for Nukara marks.
So, you have to do the hard ones then? That doesn't really sound like a lot of fun. Though I do have a few extra suits lying around.
I think, but am not sure, that you can get the Crystalline Shell gear from any grade of mission. I know I've never managed to do the Nukara hard missions (when I did them they were bugged, and I never went back after they were supposedly fixed).
I agree that then putting the Crystaline set into the rep system is pretty much BS. I didn't get it nor am I planning to get it but it seems wrong to me.
Not only does it feel like a betrayal to players that DID choose to spend cash it also undermines all future Lobi store items. Or are they going to abandon the Lobi store now, like they've abandoned the C-store?
I was on Tribble earlier, checking out all the changes: Warp cores, tholian rep, etc etc.
I was looking at Tholian rep, and in the upgrades part of it, I saw that you could slot a project to turn one of the three pieces of the original Tholian ground set (not upgraded) into Nukara marks.
Is this temporary for Tribble? To allow people to actually get some marks and do the missions? Or will it be a part of the actual rep in the future?
I mean, it makes sense. You don't need to be in a fleet to access nukara or run the missions.
Well when season 7 hit, Deferi was hit hard with the fleet mark nerf-bat. It was virtually worthless to do it at all for months until they changed it back a few weeks ago.
Wouldn't surprise me if they pulled a similar stunt with Nukara and snatched any value of FMs out of it. I hope they don't though. Because as of now, there's no real info on what other ways to get Nukara marks aside from Nukara, so if they nerf that, it certainly won't make people interested in it anymore than they are now. If anything, they'll hate going there because of how annoying it can be.
Plus it has been nerfed/fixed once in the past before. Many months ago when season 6 first hit, you could mega-grind on Nukara. Tedious like you wouldn't believe, but it was EXTREMELY good at gathering fleet marks. Like hundreds of them in those two hours per person.
And if you pre-grinded Nukara on toon or two before hand (doing the easy and medium exteriors, along with at least the hard exterior and possibly hard interior); having 1000 FMs or more was easily obtainable per person.
Anywho, I do hope a dev answers my question.
If you're afraid it'll discourage people from testing eventual tholian events just add another tribble test reward for playing on them for a few hours or something.
Wait until Patch Notes are released that detail the features of the Reputation - its rewards, its related content, etc. At that point, it will be relatively safe to assume that what you see, is what you'll get on Holodeck (give-or-take some fine tuning).
For the time being, we're not prepared to answer questions regarding the details of a system that is still in flux.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
Hmm...guess this answers my question well enough for now.
Does this also apply to things like Traits? i.e. now that Trait info has been posted to Tribble patch notes, are these pretty much the traits that we're going to be getting on Holodeck?
Or is the system "still in flux"? (I hope so! Feedback time!
You folks have paid money, so not only have you getten stuff much earlier, you don't have to grind.
Sounds about right for F2P to me.
As for the rep system itself:
I really hope the sets have a special set bonus when fitted to Tholian ships. So far, the Tholian ships are the only lock box/lobi ships that don't have at least one set that gives them special bonuses.
I like the sound of that tier 5 trait; since science abilites have been nerfed to hell and back, science ships could use a bit of a boost in the damage department.
They said they are adding a fleet asset sometime after the Romulan update; I hope it gives consoles that boost tholian rep gear in much the same was as the embassy gear boosts Romulan rep gear. I am personally hoping for engineering consoles that either add a chance to do some shield stripping or buff tetryon weapons (since Tet is what the Tholian stuff is)
Have to agree.
The Borg missons have it right for a payout balance. The Romulan missions... not so much. And the disparity between them is pretty hard to explain away since having one done right gives you a clear template to work off of for the other.
I made Tier V Romulan based entirely off the Daily Sector Patrol for 60 marks per day, but I didn't get any equipment. If I had... I might still be at it.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
To devs: please, for the love of all that is pure and good in this world, give it at least [Acc]x2. Anything else is just an extra. Without decent accuracy, its pvp viability is enormously impaired and it becomes borderline worthless to those who fighting intelligent opponents.
Then of course theres the special flavour of the refracted tetryons. I'm betting we'll see Tet weapons with a secondary disruptor proc, which would be awesome on a number of levels. So long as they keep the tetryon energy type for compatibility with the tier 5 power and existing consoles I'm happy.
The stats and set bonuses for the two new tholian space sets could also be good. This is a chance for them to FINALLY add more flavour to pvp viable end game equipment, other than just current STF sets and elite fleet shield. If it is roughly on par with other sets, heres to hoping it doesnt have an innate tet resist, which would be the biggest own goal in game history.
On a side note, I guess its too much too hope for Tholian bridge officers and captain species down the road?
Has anyone been able to catch a glimpse at the requisitions yet on tribble???
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What makes you think it will be a disruptor proc?
I do admit I am a bit unsure what the second proc could be, on the one hand, Tholians seem to use Tetryon/phaser hybrids, but on the other, we already have those via lock box.
Beyond tholian rep, though, I hope the next fleet asset has a buff to tetryons like how the Embassy buffs Plasma. Whenever we get a rep system, the fleet asset should match for some synergy.
From the Tier 2 Nukara Strike Force Reputation:
Universal Console- Nukara Particle Converter
Very Rare Universal Console- Cannot Equip More than One Of This Item
+5 Shield Power Setting
+17.3 Starship Power Insulators
+17.3 Starship Particle Generators
+10% Accuracy With Beam Weapons
Immediate first thought: I love the idea. Gives a nice boost to beams for cruisers and science ships, and seems to fit with the Tholian's idea of heavy reliance on beam weapons.
I didn't really see that many exotic damages being thrown out by Tholians, they seem to use more disables and drains, so Subspace Decompiler or Flow Capacitors would fit better with their theme.
Beyond that, FlowCap boosts the proc on Tetryon weapons, so having that would synergize better with the rest of the Tholian Rep gear.
The boost to beams is nice, but I doubt anyone will use beam arrays anymore if the current changes to EPtX go live as is.
There has already been a dev blog post about the Nukara reputation system, but I have yet to see anything about it in the patch notes. Will the new passives, abilities, and equipment be added to the DS9 vendor on Tribble for testing before Legacy of Romulus launches?
Sounds perfect to me. I wonder if the tier 5 click ability (the isoetric charge esque tetryon burst ability will get a boost from perticle gens.)
At the very least it makes beams a more viable choice for pvp, especially since we're getting the special dual beam bank. I reckon it would be worth even without the acc bonus just for the boost to shield power and insulators.
Putting 15k dil aside for this one.
EDIT: I dont suppose you can see the name/details of the set bonuses?
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The names, but not the bonuses.
Set 2: Tetryon Amplification
Set 3: Refracting Assault
if I was a gambling man, I'd bet that the Set 2 bonus is +7.6% Tetryon damage and +15.2 to particle generators. I'm fairly confident on the former, the latter is just guesswork based on what else is buffed in the Tholian reputation system.
If I were to further gamble, with even less certainty, I would say that Set 3 is probably a click power, two minute recharge, which provides either a special refractive BFAW power or upgrades the Hyper Beam Bank to fire a super-refractive pulse.
Oh wait i forgot about the new romulan toons you all wanted to create, triple repu now on all of them happy grinding to tier 5! We all love it so much.
And for the tip of the iceberg, newcomers to PvP enjoy this part the most, it adds another 1/2 months before they are equally viable as other PvPers with the same advantage. Widen the already huge gap between newbies and old skool players even more. Yay!
What can I say, great.
I would seriously consider putting in a Z-store token of 2000 zen to simply let us buy our way to Tier 5, because I certainly will buy that.
Its kinda sad, because I actually kinda like the reputation system, the grind is just way too long and time consuming.
Cheers for the info, and I must say as a huge fan of tetryon weapons who has invested in high end tet consoles, its good to hear they'll be getting a buff. Their blue colour is perfect for my Charal.
The tier 5 click power is also apparently boosted by tetryon consoles, making them an even better choice.
Now to go and spend all my ec on tetryon tac consoles so I can sell them at a huge profit when LoR goes live and all the pvpers rush to change to tet weapons. MWAHAHAHA.
The consoles giving an acc bonus to beams is also great news, since it means the hyper dual beam bank will definitely be at least somewhat viable in pvp. That and itll also be a much needed buff to cruisers/sience ships.
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There is a Register Lobi set project which gets you some nakura marks and DILITHIUM so not a complete waste. Those who have made the purchase are being given something extra to those who have not.
I'm still assuming we're getting shuttle content. Fingers crossed.
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Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
Thanks for the console stats at least, my beam boat cruiser just got way more awesome.