Joined Trill - Both the KDF and FED were given this payment option.
Liberated Borg - Both the KDF and FED were given this payment option.
agreed
[*]Hirogen - Known allies of RSE in exchange for hunting grounds within it''s space.
I'm not sure about the Hirogen.
[*]Benzite - Benzar was under the RSE in the dominion war, some may still be loyal.
Maybe, z-store
[*]Vulcan - Have worked to unify their cousins, the romulan people, with their own.
I don't think Vulcans would work well. When it comes to New Romulus and the Unification Party stuff, sure, but really, that is late storyline stuff. maybe Half Rom/Half Vulcans? z-store
[*]Klingon - There was a colony of klingons peaceful with RSE control on Carraya IV.
A couple small colonys of loyal "subjects", plus if you throw in some Discomendated houses seeking a safe home and some familys have had old/arrangements with the Romulans (Duras/Torg, certainly not all of them were "evil", just loyal family members), so maybe. z-store
[*]Corvallen - Their location is near the RSE's holdings and have worked with them.
maybe
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Absolutely. With what happened in Unification, there's a huge probability that some Vulcans embraced the Romulan Empire and defected.
So having a Vulcan option fits. It'd be the Romulan side version of the Fed-Klingon and KDF-Joined Trill.
Not really. Honestly if you look back at the episode, the whole "unification" movement is rather one sided, with Romulans embracing the Vulcan way of logic.
I hardly think unificationist Vulcans would defect to the Romulans when it's the Romulans who are changing to become more Vulcan, and even if they did they'd more likely join D'Tan's hippie commune instead.
Ohh! But considering that everyone forgets the Romulan Star Empire has subject species (even though they're not displayed on screen- the remans being the exception to that) and that those subject species would no doubt join the romulan republic against their former masters- I would have thought the way of d'era has been spitted on in favour of allies, to which they share in favourable aims/goals.
:rolleyes:
Now then, would the Yridians be considered a potential playable species for the Romulan Republic? They were thought to have gone extinct during the 2360s, but could that be modified to have been due to the Romulan Star Empire's conquering of the Yridian homeworld? The faction and the species appear in some episodes together, if I'm correct. They also appear very similar in stereotypical behaviour.
The Yridians aren't extinct, they're just greatly depleted in numbers and apparently keep to themselves.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
And yet the Aenar connection is still vastly more logical than the absurd Joined Trills for KDF, wherein we're supposed to believe that some of the most ancient and wise Federation citizens would work for the Federation's enemy because... Dax... once had a Klingon fetish.
According to a dev blog, there is a colony of Trill inside the Empire.
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I think "Alien" and "Liberated Borg" are the only sure bets, though many of the arguments I've seen for Vulcans also make sense.
One race that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I can see as a possibility considering this faction will be the Romulan Republic and not Star Empire, are the Dewans. Perhaps D'Tan and the other inhabitants of New Romulus are so intrigued with the ruins and the history there that they go on a crusade to find the remaining Dewans.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the Dewans are 100% extinct. Unless they cram even more time-travel shenanigans into this plotline, but would a race hundreds of thousands of years gone even be useful now? Probably not.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the Dewans are 100% extinct. Unless they cram even more time-travel shenanigans into this plotline, but would a race hundreds of thousands of years gone even be useful now? Probably not.
Hirogen - Known allies of romulans in exchange for hunting grounds within it's space.
Since these are Romulans that are seperate from the Empire, I can't see Hirogen being playable. Though wouldn't rule out the possibility you could end up with a Hirogen BOFF.
Benzite - Benzar was under romulan control in the dominion war, some may still be loyal.
Well nothing mentioned about the fate of Benzar in the Path to 2409, but since we have DOFF missions there, I think the Romulans returned Benzar to the Federation. But would be interesting if they still claim it.
You know, everyone is assuming that Sela is going to be opposing our faction. But, it's entirely possible that she decides to work with D'tan after escaping the Iconians somehow.
In the face of the Iconian threat (and their kidnapping of her), the Tal Shiar (who exiled her for a while and forced her to team up with the Hirogen to fight them), the new enemies who are wrecking romulan space, the tholians, and the borg, given her already pragmatic choices it's entirely possible that she may team up to insure that there actually is a New Romulus to take over some day.
And it makes for a power trio of command. Sela, Obisek, D'tan. A far more colorful leadership cast than the rather blah Fed or Klingon command chains.
And yet the Aenar connection is still vastly more logical than the absurd Joined Trills for KDF, wherein we're supposed to believe that some of the most ancient and wise Federation citizens would work for the Federation's enemy because... Dax... once had a Klingon fetish.
You're going on the premise that every Trill and symbiont is like-minded. And that is IDIC - FAIL. Perhaps some see the "wisdom" in how the Klingons deal aggressively with the Undine threat vs the Federation's more passive approach. The importance of self-preservation tends to influence how living things go about dealing with threats.
With that said, one of my Joined Trills is part of a cadre of criminal symbionts who have dealt with the likes of the Orions, Ferengi, Naassicans, etc. for over 100yrs. Essentially, a bunch of symbiont "godfathers" who, via their "ancient wisdom", decided to band together in order maintain some control over the criminal element in known space.
Plenty of ways to make that premise work if you give IDIC a chance...
I'd say yes really. The whole point of unification is to bring Romulans and Vulcans together. By 2409, it would have attracted a lot more than just Spock.
I'd say yes really. The whole point of unification is to bring Romulans and Vulcans together. By 2409, it would have attracted a lot more than just Spock.
Dunno, maybe it's time Cryptic moved the clock forward to 2410?
Originally Posted by misterde3
Same could be said about Aenar BOFFs.
Which aren't playable.
But in any case like I said, Aenar wouln't be any more ridiculous than KDF Joined Trills.
Not yet.. but last I heard they were still working to make the First Officer promotable to a playable captain. And my Aenar First Officer will make a FINE Captain...
Here is an Idea for a Romulan Faction Species: The Chalchaj'qmey: a crossbreed of both the Klingons and Romulans. They were actually brought to light in the TOS novel: The Ashes of Eden.
Here is an Idea for a Romulan Faction Species: The Chalchaj'qmey: a crossbreed of both the Klingons and Romulans. They were actually brought to light in the TOS novel: The Ashes of Eden.
You can also see one in a TNG episode. But it's one of the reason why we have an alien template. There also are Vulcan-Human hybrid, but it's not a fed species.
You're going on the premise that every Trill and symbiont is like-minded. And that is IDIC - FAIL.
Actually Cryptic were the ones doing that, justifying it by thinking that just because Dax got wet over Klingons that all other joined Trills must do so as well, and that this fetish would take them beyond simple admiration to high treason.
Perhaps some see the "wisdom" in how the Klingons deal aggressively with the Undine threat vs the Federation's more passive approach. The importance of self-preservation tends to influence how living things go about dealing with threats.
You mean.. by not dealing with it at all and using it as an excuse to expand Klingon hegemony?
Yeah, that's great. Generally I don't expect such long lived beings to be that stupid or treasonous.
With that said, one of my Joined Trills is part of a cadre of criminal symbionts who have dealt with the likes of the Orions, Ferengi, Naassicans, etc. for over 100yrs. Essentially, a bunch of symbiont "godfathers" who, via their "ancient wisdom", decided to band together in order maintain some control over the criminal element in known space.
Plenty of ways to make that premise work if you give IDIC a chance...
:rolleyes:
By that logic you could have KDF playable humans.
Being a criminal is one thing, actively working for your nation's enemy is quite another. It would be like the American mob working for the TRIBBLE.
Here is an Idea for a Romulan Faction Species: The Chalchaj'qmey: a crossbreed of both the Klingons and Romulans. They were actually brought to light in the TOS novel: The Ashes of Eden.
The Chalchaj'qmey were from a discontinued joint-klingon program, and the Memory Beta page says that they were augmented with harvested human organs, so they are a bit artificial in nature. I would be suprised if any of them survived to the 'present' day in ST. Besides we already have romulan-klingon hybrids produced the old-fashioned way, as well as human-romulans, and romulan-vulcans. I don't think any of these really need their own species to represent them, considering we already have the 'alien' species for those occurances.
Actually Cryptic were the ones doing that, justifying it by thinking that just because Dax got wet over Klingons that all other joined Trills must do so as well, and that this fetish would take them beyond simple admiration to high treason.
I always assumed that these Trill learned the truth about how many are actually viable and left with a boatload of symbionts.
Either way, it is the way it is, you have to deal with it.
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It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Who cares? STO picks and chooses its novels and comics.
You bring up something as a consequence for an event, are subsequently informed that said event occurred but did not result in the consequences you described, and suddenly it doesn't matter because it contradicts your assertion? You cared enough to bring up the scenario.
The revelation that a huge number of Trill are compatible with symbionts didn't lead to a mass exodus or theft of symbionts from their spawning pools. It led to a collection of deranged terrorists trying to wipe out all joined Trill by launching a Bio-Weapon against the Trill homeworld. A Bio-Weapon tailored specifically to kill joined Trill, and symbionts.
How exactly do you go from trying to wipe a thing out, to magically becoming the very thing you're trying to exterminate?
I found the prior post regarding the Ktarians to be highly interesting. There was that 'rogue faction' that is probably looking for a home outside of the Federation
I don't understand the obsession regarding these exotic hybrids and well.. outright alien crew variations. Not saying this to deny anyone anything.
It would probably serve them better (Cryptic) to gradually release these over time, preferably as C-Store merchandise, so they don't fill up the crew slots because you don't want to delete one-of-a-kind rewards. I already have that "problem" on the Fed side. Not enough crew slots, to juggle things properly around, and some exotic rewards are just sitting there to collect dust. I'm not putting Mr. Freeze on duty. :P
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I'm not sure about the Hirogen. Maybe, z-store I don't think Vulcans would work well. When it comes to New Romulus and the Unification Party stuff, sure, but really, that is late storyline stuff. maybe Half Rom/Half Vulcans? z-store A couple small colonys of loyal "subjects", plus if you throw in some Discomendated houses seeking a safe home and some familys have had old/arrangements with the Romulans (Duras/Torg, certainly not all of them were "evil", just loyal family members), so maybe. z-store maybe
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Not really. Honestly if you look back at the episode, the whole "unification" movement is rather one sided, with Romulans embracing the Vulcan way of logic.
I hardly think unificationist Vulcans would defect to the Romulans when it's the Romulans who are changing to become more Vulcan, and even if they did they'd more likely join D'Tan's hippie commune instead.
The Yridians aren't extinct, they're just greatly depleted in numbers and apparently keep to themselves.
According to a dev blog, there is a colony of Trill inside the Empire.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
And they happen to have a bunch of ultra rare symbiotes do they?
That's bending so far over backwards, the top of their heads are touching the floor.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the Dewans are 100% extinct. Unless they cram even more time-travel shenanigans into this plotline, but would a race hundreds of thousands of years gone even be useful now? Probably not.
Iconians would disagree.
There you go, instead of Romulan Cats, you got the very thing Anti-Cat - a Dog.
Since these are Romulans that are seperate from the Empire, I can't see Hirogen being playable. Though wouldn't rule out the possibility you could end up with a Hirogen BOFF.
Well nothing mentioned about the fate of Benzar in the Path to 2409, but since we have DOFF missions there, I think the Romulans returned Benzar to the Federation. But would be interesting if they still claim it.
Since these aren't Imperial Romulans, it's a strong possibility these would be Reunificationist Vulcans. So be interesting if they are added.
A definite possibility. And keeps them seperate from the antgonistic House of Duras vs the Honorable Houses (Martok, Worf, etc).
And like mentioned above, I think the Yiridians are a good possibility for the role the Ferengi played with the Federation, as Traders.
Yes.
In the face of the Iconian threat (and their kidnapping of her), the Tal Shiar (who exiled her for a while and forced her to team up with the Hirogen to fight them), the new enemies who are wrecking romulan space, the tholians, and the borg, given her already pragmatic choices it's entirely possible that she may team up to insure that there actually is a New Romulus to take over some day.
And it makes for a power trio of command. Sela, Obisek, D'tan. A far more colorful leadership cast than the rather blah Fed or Klingon command chains.
With that said, one of my Joined Trills is part of a cadre of criminal symbionts who have dealt with the likes of the Orions, Ferengi, Naassicans, etc. for over 100yrs. Essentially, a bunch of symbiont "godfathers" who, via their "ancient wisdom", decided to band together in order maintain some control over the criminal element in known space.
Plenty of ways to make that premise work if you give IDIC a chance...
:rolleyes:
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Dunno, maybe it's time Cryptic moved the clock forward to 2410?
Not yet.. but last I heard they were still working to make the First Officer promotable to a playable captain. And my Aenar First Officer will make a FINE Captain...
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Actually Cryptic were the ones doing that, justifying it by thinking that just because Dax got wet over Klingons that all other joined Trills must do so as well, and that this fetish would take them beyond simple admiration to high treason.
You mean.. by not dealing with it at all and using it as an excuse to expand Klingon hegemony?
Yeah, that's great. Generally I don't expect such long lived beings to be that stupid or treasonous.
By that logic you could have KDF playable humans.
Being a criminal is one thing, actively working for your nation's enemy is quite another. It would be like the American mob working for the TRIBBLE.
I always assumed that these Trill learned the truth about how many are actually viable and left with a boatload of symbionts.
Either way, it is the way it is, you have to deal with it.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
You'd be wrong. The reveal of the symbiont secret was done in a TNG/DS9 crossover comic.
Who cares? STO picks and chooses its novels and comics.
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
You bring up something as a consequence for an event, are subsequently informed that said event occurred but did not result in the consequences you described, and suddenly it doesn't matter because it contradicts your assertion? You cared enough to bring up the scenario.
The revelation that a huge number of Trill are compatible with symbionts didn't lead to a mass exodus or theft of symbionts from their spawning pools. It led to a collection of deranged terrorists trying to wipe out all joined Trill by launching a Bio-Weapon against the Trill homeworld. A Bio-Weapon tailored specifically to kill joined Trill, and symbionts.
How exactly do you go from trying to wipe a thing out, to magically becoming the very thing you're trying to exterminate?
No..... just no.....
It would probably serve them better (Cryptic) to gradually release these over time, preferably as C-Store merchandise, so they don't fill up the crew slots because you don't want to delete one-of-a-kind rewards. I already have that "problem" on the Fed side. Not enough crew slots, to juggle things properly around, and some exotic rewards are just sitting there to collect dust. I'm not putting Mr. Freeze on duty. :P
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