Because some of us understand that coding fixes for things can take time, therefore 'quickly' can elongate easily
But all joking aside, why is having an immediate replacement for a removal that big of an issue, and why did it require 'extra emphasis NEVER should have happened in the first place' speech?
I'm curious here. But I admit, it sounds similar to a spoiled child asking why it's taking so long, when the average person would expect that amount of waiting imo
Personal attacks aside, Stahl admitted in his apology, that a "Fleet Mark replacement" should've been put in place at the same time as it's Foundry removal. So why bring up this whole "you sound like a spoiled kid" analogy?
Personal attacks aside, Stahl admitted in his apology, that a "Fleet Mark replacement" should've been put in place at the same time as it's Foundry removal. So why bring up this whole "you sound like a spoiled kid" analogy?
Eh, it was a question that I don't really need an answer to anymore.
Dstahl apologized, things are more-or-less back to normal, and that's all that needs to be said, I think
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Because some of us understand that coding fixes for things can take time, therefore 'quickly' can elongate easily
But all joking aside, why is having an immediate replacement for a removal that big of an issue, and why did it require 'extra emphasis NEVER should have happened in the first place' speech?
I'm curious here. But I admit, it sounds similar to a spoiled child asking why it's taking so long, when the average person would expect that amount of waiting imo
No offense man, but I don't remember you being appointed the grand arbiter of what constitutes "that big of an issue."
If something occurs that never should have occured, than any length of time to correct the issue is going to seem too long. If you don't see what occured as a problem, why post at all on the matter and try to belittle those that do see the issue as a problem to being "similar to a spoiled child"?
And when the EP admits it was a boneheaded move that could have been easily avoided had just the slightest regard to the feedback they received before Cryptic made the change been heeded, maybe your should pause to consider that just because you don't find something to be a problem, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't actually a problem.
TL/DR version: Dan sacked up and apologized. That tells me he understands where this last week was completely unnecessary, even if you don't apparently understand it.
Eh, it was a question that I don't really need an answer to anymore.
Yes, throw out the bait and then when called on it, play the rhetorical question card. There is a name for that when it occurs in internet forums, isn't there?
No offense man, but I don't remember you being appointed the grand arbiter of what constitutes "that big of an issue."
If something occurs that never should have occured, than any length of time to correct the issue is going to seem too long. If you don't see what occured as a problem, why post at all on the matter and try to belittle those that do see the issue as a problem to being "similar to a spoiled child"?
And when the EP admits it was a boneheaded move that could have been easily avoided had just the slightest regard to the feedback they received before Cryptic made the change been heeded, maybe your should pause to consider that just because you don't find something to be a problem, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't actually a problem.
TL/DR version: Dan sacked up and apologized. That tells me he understands where this last week was completely unnecessary, even if you don't apparently understand it.
Yes, throw out the bait and then when called on it, play the rhetorical question card. There is a name for that when it occurs in internet forums, isn't there?
Oh, I understand, I simply don't understand how anyone can see it as a big issue. An issue, yes, but not this big of one.
And either way, I asked a question, not asserted that my opinion was the right one Plus, I think enough's been said about it on this thread, so let's just stop there
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Oh, I understand, I simply don't understand how anyone can see it as a big issue. An issue, yes, but not this big of one.
And either way, I asked a question, not asserted that my opinion was the right one Plus, I think enough's been said about it on this thread, so let's just stop there
Continue to minimize the valid opinions of others and then end the post with "lets just stop there."
Again, the bait is thrown, followed by an attempt to halt any pushback.
What is the term I am looking for? You know, that thing they call it when someone does this in a thread... Now its going to bug me until I think of the word. :rolleyes:
Continue to minimize the valid opinions of others and then end the post with "lets just stop there."
Again, the bait is thrown, followed by an attempt to halt any pushback.
What is the term I am looking for? You know, that thing they call it when someone does this in a thread... Now its going to bug me until I think of the word. :rolleyes:
Troll?
Well, if that's the word, then you're wrong. I don't do this for the fun of it; I do it because I have questions, want to express opinions, and so on.
And right now, I feel I've derailed this thread enough, which is why I said let's stop.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Well, it was a week late, but thank you. As do my fleetmates. Now if we could just make the gameplay more dynamic... I hate the fact that I know every enemy, every map, every time. Is there not a way to make the enemies a bit smarter? Not just stronger? Hive Onslaught Elite, it's the only space STF I find even remotely challenging... But It's not, it's just overkill. As a friend of mine said... "It's six tac cubes, two unimatrixis, and the borg queen... All set to the backdrop of a timer while you try not to die." And get rid of the Houston, all that idiotic thing does is aggro everything on the map. Who thought THAT was a good idea? If there were friendly fire I'd subnuc it and let it die in the middle of all six cubes while it's FAW'ing it's little heart out.
Oh.
Now there's an idea, then we could frag afk'ers... But that really wouldn't solve the problem, they'd still get their marks, however it sure would make me feel better. I'm curious, does anyone even read the reports we submit on those jerks?
Anyway, I do appreciate you listening to us and upping the fleet marks. And please, for the love of the gods, no more ninja nerfing. Talk to us, ask us what we need... What we like.. What we dislike... Let us help you make this game awesome and avoid any future "misunderstandings". Now, let's get on that dilithium refining cap problem... Shall we? ;-)
Delirium Tremens
XO of Training
Tier 5 Starbase, Tier 3 Embassy, Tier 3 Dilithium Mine, Tier 3 Spire
Join us at www.dtfleet.com
You have a strange definition of something "quick" ...
considering how stahl said changes to fleet mark rewards for existing fleet content would be coming in the following months in his post on the subject, i personally consider a week later to be very quick
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
When will we see the STF gear fixed pretty please with a cherry on top Mainly the Be'Ves chest option for KDF females and the accolades that arnt working / updating. And other reputation problems the bug forum has several topics about the problem
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Not only that, in Vault: Ensnared you got those two nebula ships that likes to not count. In Colony Invasion they still havn't fixed those Diplomats. And there are a couple of KDF Fleet / Embassy dailies that still have problems.
On the Diplomats. I have found that if you come to a complete stop and let your character go into a normal standing position (not the just stopped running one) and then interact with the Diplomat it will give you credit every time. Of course you cant be shot or disturbed while its happening or you have a good chance of losing credit as well. Its REALLY touchy.
On the 3rd Diplomat just let them run around till they stop moving and are in one spot THEN do the above.
On the Diplomats. I have found that if you come to a complete stop and let your character go into a normal standing position (not the just stopped running one) and then interact with the Diplomat it will give you credit every time. Of course you cant be shot or disturbed while its happening or you have a good chance of losing credit as well. Its REALLY touchy.
On the 3rd Diplomat just let them run around till they stop moving and are in one spot THEN do the above.
If they did proper QA and/or listened to the feedback they got from Tribble when testing that season before release, a stand-just-right-while holding-your-jaw-in-just-a-certain-manner workaround wouldn't be required.
Or, if they prioritized fixing the already in-game broken things more than pushing out more new broken things, this would have been addressed months ago.
I like that there is a workaround, and I appreciate others sharing it. I just wish that at some point after these issues are identified, they were...you know...fixed.
Comments
Thank you for listening to your players.
T'Shara / Ten
Inara / Aurora
D'Rhai (Fed) / S'Elandrei (KDF)
Personal attacks aside, Stahl admitted in his apology, that a "Fleet Mark replacement" should've been put in place at the same time as it's Foundry removal. So why bring up this whole "you sound like a spoiled kid" analogy?
Dstahl apologized, things are more-or-less back to normal, and that's all that needs to be said, I think
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
No offense man, but I don't remember you being appointed the grand arbiter of what constitutes "that big of an issue."
If something occurs that never should have occured, than any length of time to correct the issue is going to seem too long. If you don't see what occured as a problem, why post at all on the matter and try to belittle those that do see the issue as a problem to being "similar to a spoiled child"?
And when the EP admits it was a boneheaded move that could have been easily avoided had just the slightest regard to the feedback they received before Cryptic made the change been heeded, maybe your should pause to consider that just because you don't find something to be a problem, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't actually a problem.
TL/DR version: Dan sacked up and apologized. That tells me he understands where this last week was completely unnecessary, even if you don't apparently understand it.
Yes, throw out the bait and then when called on it, play the rhetorical question card. There is a name for that when it occurs in internet forums, isn't there?
Thanks cryptic and what captainrevo1 said. Will be back after the patch.
And either way, I asked a question, not asserted that my opinion was the right one
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Continue to minimize the valid opinions of others and then end the post with "lets just stop there."
Again, the bait is thrown, followed by an attempt to halt any pushback.
What is the term I am looking for? You know, that thing they call it when someone does this in a thread... Now its going to bug me until I think of the word. :rolleyes:
Well, if that's the word, then you're wrong. I don't do this for the fun of it; I do it because I have questions, want to express opinions, and so on.
And right now, I feel I've derailed this thread enough, which is why I said let's stop.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Oh.
Now there's an idea, then we could frag afk'ers... But that really wouldn't solve the problem, they'd still get their marks, however it sure would make me feel better. I'm curious, does anyone even read the reports we submit on those jerks?
Anyway, I do appreciate you listening to us and upping the fleet marks. And please, for the love of the gods, no more ninja nerfing. Talk to us, ask us what we need... What we like.. What we dislike... Let us help you make this game awesome and avoid any future "misunderstandings". Now, let's get on that dilithium refining cap problem... Shall we? ;-)
XO of Training
Tier 5 Starbase, Tier 3 Embassy, Tier 3 Dilithium Mine, Tier 3 Spire
Join us at www.dtfleet.com
considering how stahl said changes to fleet mark rewards for existing fleet content would be coming in the following months in his post on the subject, i personally consider a week later to be very quick
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
i'm assuming the 'it' is nukara considering the post's title...i think it's all that sulpher you're smelling :P
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
On the Diplomats. I have found that if you come to a complete stop and let your character go into a normal standing position (not the just stopped running one) and then interact with the Diplomat it will give you credit every time. Of course you cant be shot or disturbed while its happening or you have a good chance of losing credit as well. Its REALLY touchy.
On the 3rd Diplomat just let them run around till they stop moving and are in one spot THEN do the above.
If they did proper QA and/or listened to the feedback they got from Tribble when testing that season before release, a stand-just-right-while holding-your-jaw-in-just-a-certain-manner workaround wouldn't be required.
Or, if they prioritized fixing the already in-game broken things more than pushing out more new broken things, this would have been addressed months ago.
I like that there is a workaround, and I appreciate others sharing it. I just wish that at some point after these issues are identified, they were...you know...fixed.