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  • pokersmith1pokersmith1 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ehmm... no. Klingons hardly ever camp, because there is always fresh meat getting tenderized by the borg out there. I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying they mostly don't.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »

    CryoX
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    Emo Joe
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    Grim Death
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    .

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  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Here is the simplest solution to Kerrat create multiple random respawn points. That alone fixes the fed ball and klingon spawn camping. Then they could actually fix the BORKED Borg who hide inside the soft walls and shoot you but you cannot shoot them. Wait! That would be logical....
  • litchy74litchy74 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    4 deaths in a row it's good when you go up against a good fed player, Ohh and please don't spawn camp it's takes away the fun this goes for both sides.

    Getting 'stick', moaned at whined at etc etc....

    Got the heavy bop, it's the fleet bops worth the expense for an extra console?
    Where ever you go, there you are.......

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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Love Ker'rat on both sides. As my fed cruiser, I get a sick perverse pleasure in watching BoPs banging away on my shields all day and not leaving a scratch (except that one time I got tric bombed by a b'rel... hit me with a THY3 and then a DPB3... sufficed to say, I am so glad my brace and Aux2SIF are on a hair-trigger). Granted, I usually die to the ganks eventually, but it's fun.

    And as the KDF... well let me just say, my usual time in Ker'rat is about an hour or so, and I always pick up around 80 kills in that hour... and I still have as of yet to fill my first "die 25 times" mission. I love the decloaking ambushes you can pull off, and I love the raging that occurs in chat after... it's a credit to the wonders of PvP.
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  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love Ker'rat, I remember many a time where a bunch of Feds have tried to spawn kill the KDF only to have the tables turned on them by the excellent skill and knowledge of their own ships the KDF seem to display. That and when you are getting hammered only for someone to heal you up so you can finish off the feds.

    After that the whining usually starts which makes it even funnier.

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  • zarathos1978zarathos1978 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love Ker'rat too. But warping straight into mined warp plasma is not fun. Getting mined and plasmed on zone reset is even less.

    Now, sneaking on some poor unsuspecting Klink busy killing Fed PvEr - that is fun.
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    As a BoP I have never had a problem with spawn campers, just hit evasive, pop BFA and RSP, use your Subspace Modulator and make like a Banana. You can get out of range and cloak before anyone has the sense to use a Sensor Scan. If you have 1 or 2 buddies, you can generally turn the tables pretty easily.
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »

    Most of these are with tthe ISC fleet and yes they do meet in Kerrat for 1-vs-1 sessions to test equipment. My toon "Grimsey" is one of thier favorite targets. So yes I do know what is like to face 19 klinks.

    They've obviously arrived with an agenda that your presence has disrupted. The solution for this is to not show up. I'd slaughter you too. You receive no sympathy from me.
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    I haven't actually gone that much through forums, so I might be wrong, but I suspect the KDF ones mostly whined about respawn farming.

    When I think of that, I had the funniest encounter few weeks ago with respawn farming. I pulled in the Tactical Bortasqu' and there were four ships farming, but i had the lol :D moment as 2 were straight infront of me. Needles to say those 2 were instantly slapped on the Cube and not long after the other two were sent there to scrape them off. I think they expected a BoP and had "Oh ****!" moment. :D
    Then one of them was quite persistent of buzzing around me and trying to blow me up 1 on 1 without the others (they were caught up fighting other KDF) with a Star Cruiser. :)

    Anyway my point was that because the Fed. starts at level 1, and therefore has much more players, you can expect their number of unexperienced or ignorant players to be larger. And those who don't understand the game mechanics are the ones that usually whine.
    Remember, every one of us was a noob in his/hers own time. :P
    But this is nothing we should generalize around, I for one had my share of lolz with the Galaxy of all ships against confused & inexperienced KDF. Comes back to the person, not the whole faction. And even that person can learn and then it's payback time.

    P.S. I believe the other player ment the 1000 day veteran ship (Chimaera/Peghgu') as it is for now only availible for veterans & lifetime subscribers.

    Last time I was spawn camped the free Odyssey was the hot item. I completed five dailies by abandoning ship next their hoard of AFK buds. The last one finally figured out what was going on as he tardily attempted to move his ship. I didn't mind it all. I found it rather humorous the two Oddy captains were useful enough to assist me in capping my dilithium for the day.
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  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013

    Kerrat is one of the best things in STO and I hope they leave it be.

    ^^ This a thousand times. Ker'rat is the best thing about STO... after all of the smack talking, spawn camping and QQing you can see a zone settle down with Feds & KDF chilling out above cracked planet, discussing builds etc.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I'm a little disappointed that I wasn't listed on that list, but then again I haven't been playing my KDF characters for a while.

    I remember back in the day when Ker'rat was FILLED with farmers (Back before F2P) and I went out of my way on my KDF toon and killed every single one of them at least once. And I'd usually try to do that at least once a day.

    Lately though with the Reputation system, I've been mostly focused on one or two characters on the fed side so far. That doesn't mean I'm ignoring the KDF Side, it's just faster to get things done on the Fed side because there are so many Feds compared to KDF players. Especially later in the evening for me.

    Each person also has probably partaken in the entertainment of a deployment suppression, but few actually go out of their way to try to drive the enemy force out of Ker'rat, and keep them out. :D

    Soon enough though you will see Jillith, Web, Teapower, or Kilaw back in Ker'rat.. And when you do.. Be afraid.... ;)
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  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    bloctoad wrote: »
    They've obviously arrived with an agenda that your presence has disrupted. The solution for this is to not show up. I'd slaughter you too. You receive no sympathy from me.

    You obviously don't understand, I get invited to participate in these battles. Going 1 on 1 with these guys over the cracked planet is rewarding. Anybody can salughter someone with numbers.... even the worst feds can. To face a single opponent in combat where everybody can watch your victory or failure adds to the intensity level of the performance. However, there is always someone who can't stand the rules and has to crash the party like Stardagger [who got banned]. When the individual battles are over melee ensues and then the numbers overtake the opponents. So for a moment in time Fed -VS- Klingon means something over the cracked planet honor and respect are given. That is what the combat area over the cracked planet in Kerrat should be a place of respect and a place to test your builds.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Breen Cluster F**K torp

    I like this name. It is a good name.

    I like Ker'rat as well, I have a laugh whether I manage to take out a few players or getting my a$$ handed to me over and over. In a masochistic way I kinda like getting camped, it makes that single kill I managed as I get shot to hell all the more satisfying :D
  • wolfexile1wolfexile1 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    BoPs rule in ker'rat. I was there yesterday, And I seriously got a 29 KILL streak. No deaths. And we were out numbered Three to one.

    Also, I was level 24. And I still am, I don't think that it should be for level 50s only.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I personally find it funny when I use that 'red fed' glitch to get my little fleet defiant on the side of the klinks, then with a couple other players we turn an entire spawn camp upside down on the feds.

    As mentioned above, BoPs rule kerrat. I was once hanging around there in my D'kora, and out of nowhere a B'Rel flies by and drops a tricobalt on me. Instant kill. On the other end of the scale, I once happened to decloak and fire a BO3 as the BoP I was targeting started to cloak. Instant kill there.
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  • hiplyrustichiplyrustic Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    Well let's be honest about a few things here.... as a Fed Sci ship captain of an Intrepid

    1st- Klingons have superior ships with better turning radius and the battle cloak

    2nd-Klingons can now push a button eliminating ALL space hazards.

    3rd-Klingons have OP equipment like the plasmonic leech and the aceton assimilator ect...

    4th- They nerfed scramble sensors so that the opponent can continue to fire on you instead of firing at his/her own faction.

    5th-With the last patch Engineering Team 1 now clears Viral Matrix 3 so there is no way to placate a Klingon ship or thier massive spawns

    The game has changed so much in the last year and there is no balance anymore so go ahead and yuk it up 19 klinks shooting a poor Fed.

    Way I see it (as primarily a fed captain atm) is that fed outnumber Klingons better than 5:1, so pretty much any tactics they want to use are fine with me.
  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Way I see it (as primarily a fed captain atm) is that fed outnumber Klingons better than 5:1, so pretty much any tactics they want to use are fine with me.

    But of the number of fed ships how many are actively hunting down Klinks -vs- How many are farming or sight seeing? Just because you go to Kerrat does not mean that you are there to fight Klingons.
  • hiplyrustichiplyrustic Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    But of the number of fed ships how many are actively hunting down Klinks -vs- How many are farming or sight seeing? Just because you go to Kerrat does not mean that you are there to fight Klingons.

    I don't see that as a Klingon issue. I expect them there when I arrive, if I didn't want the chance of partying with them I would stay out of the mission.
  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't see that as a Klingon issue. I expect them there when I arrive, if I didn't want the chance of partying with them I would stay out of the mission.

    That is you you are not there to farm many Fed players are there to get thier dilithium and maybey fight the borg in hopes of winning a prize if they place. As a mattter of fact the better part of the fed players are not there to fight Klinks...if they do they run into a strong contigent and quickly tire of being blown up and leave.
  • hiplyrustichiplyrustic Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    That is you you are not there to farm many Fed players are there to get thier dilithium and maybey fight the borg in hopes of winning a prize if they place. As a mattter of fact the better part of the fed players are not there to fight Klinks...if they do they run into a strong contigent and quickly tire of being blown up and leave.


    That's their issue. I shed no tears for anyone that wants to come in and farm in an area that grants rewards as high as Ker'rat does precisely because it is a contested zone. I know it's a contested zone, I know the rewards are as high as they potentially are because of the risks. I choose to accept the risks. If I get blown up I get blown up.

    They call it a War Zone for a reason...and that reason isn't the Borg.
  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Meh, all they really need to do is set up space stations with lots of turrets to remind both sides of the evils of spawn camping by blasting them the pieces.
  • dixa1dixa1 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    in a game where a player can put an 80k+ quantum crit on another player, pvp is a joke.

    you have longer ttk in console fps games.
  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    Gee let me list the names for you and you go look them up...

    CryoX
    Kaine
    Red Laurence
    Misdemeanor
    Emo Joe
    Tunguska
    Eiybot
    Stardagger [currently banned]
    Grim Death
    Sibok
    Dirty Old Man
    Hannibal
    Nightwish
    Ombji
    Kempek
    Deathstroke
    Baltazar
    Djinn
    Motar

    Most of these are with tthe ISC fleet and yes they do meet in Kerrat for 1-vs-1 sessions to test equipment. My toon "Grimsey" is one of thier favorite targets. So yes I do know what is like to face 19 klinks.

    Not cool listing names of players on forums. Also against forum rules
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love Kerrat. Especially harrassing fed farmers telling you "leave me alone i'm farming". Most of the times these guys will be easy kills. I also love the fact that there is no rule there. Get your most Op stuff in there, use it, kill people, change side if you want, kill more, get some spheres to help you and kill an unexpecting opponent. :P
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  • vitzhvitzh Member Posts: 519
    edited February 2013
    wolfexile1 wrote: »
    BoPs rule in ker'rat. I was there yesterday, And I seriously got a 29 KILL streak. No deaths. And we were out numbered Three to one.

    Try a battlecruiser or raptor... you'll soon find that kill streak rise and while being outnumbered five to one.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    That is you you are not there to farm many Fed players are there to get thier dilithium and maybey fight the borg in hopes of winning a prize if they place. As a mattter of fact the better part of the fed players are not there to fight Klinks...if they do they run into a strong contigent and quickly tire of being blown up and leave.

    Funny. Everytime I go into Ker'ret there is always a tally of points where the KDF tried to complete the mission. We lose out most often due to the feds outnumbering us and doing it faster but we always try.
    Those KDF players you condemn are merely trying to slow you feds down the easy way by attacking you while others make a run on the the "prize"
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    arnthebard wrote: »
    You obviously don't understand, I get invited to participate in these battles. Going 1 on 1 with these guys over the cracked planet is rewarding. Anybody can salughter someone with numbers.... even the worst feds can. To face a single opponent in combat where everybody can watch your victory or failure adds to the intensity level of the performance. However, there is always someone who can't stand the rules and has to crash the party like Stardagger [who got banned]. When the individual battles are over melee ensues and then the numbers overtake the opponents. So for a moment in time Fed -VS- Klingon means something over the cracked planet honor and respect are given. That is what the combat area over the cracked planet in Kerrat should be a place of respect and a place to test your builds.

    One should not complain about the outcome of an expired agreement. You went in knowing the possibilities yet found the fruition thereof upsetting enough to broadcast.
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