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Isn't it time for a TRUE Federation Carrier

stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Federation Discussion
With all the recent release in regards to carriers or flight deck Carrier, The Federation needs a true Carrier befitting of the name.

Sure we have the Caitian Kitty Carrier and though they are part of the Federation, their vessel is not an official one.

We have the Artimage Flight Deck Carrier - A plus that competes against the KDF Orion Flight Deck Carrier. However; the Atrox is dead last in the true Carrier department in comparison to the KDF OFFICIAL Faction Carrier and the now Recluse Carrier.

The Recluse is the superior Carrier out of three pound for pound.

I am hoping that Cryptic releases an Official Federation of Planets Carrier that is on par with the Recluse and the KDF Carrier.

Give us a Typhon class type Carrier or something that resembles a true blue Carrier but wearing the Federation banner.

It would be nice to expand on the Fighter selections as well as implement official Federation type bombers that pack a whallop against shields and armor.

Hell something with a dive bomber formation or something, or strifing run formation.
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Well the atrox is still the largest ship in the game so atrox > anything but true enough that's the one thing the atrox has going for it.

    More carriers I will always be down for just remember to let the atrox keep its place at the top.

    Since KDF has 2 carriers I guess it would be only fair if the feds got a new one.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    vestereng wrote: »
    Since KDF has 2 carriers I guess it would be only fair if the feds got a new one.

    "Fair"? :rolleyes:

    Then it would be fair if the KDF got:
    - a 5 tac console raptor
    - the equivalent of the Vesta
    - a c-store flight-deck escort
    - 3-4 science fleet ships

    As soon as the KDF gets this then it's fair for the Fed to get a new carrier. :)
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Id like them to upgrade the atrox before we get another carrier.
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  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited January 2013
    I have a better idea,
    replace all hangar slots with universal facing weapon slots.
    no more carriers.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    Id like them to upgrade the atrox before we get another carrier.

    Not going to happen. They will rather sell new carrier in lockbox, than update existing ships....hence why there are dozens of obsolete ships.
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  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    "Fair"? :rolleyes:

    Then it would be fair if the KDF got:
    - a 5 tac console raptor
    - the equivalent of the Vesta
    - a c-store flight-deck escort
    - 3-4 science fleet ships

    As soon as the KDF gets this then it's fair for the Fed to get a new carrier. :)

    ^^ Spot On ^^

    to add to your list

    +5 Tac Console B'Rel Bird Of Prey

    `my reasons? the B'Rel BoP is a true glass cannon, exactly what ALL escorts should be, it should have +5 tac console.
    most escorts have hugs hulls and MASSIVE damage and the ability to tank and defend itself better than almost every other ship, The B'Rel has low hull and should have massive damage exactly what people who want to DPS everything should be flying! ... Period.

    to the OP, the Atrox is fine, to be a carrier you depend on your fighters, as for the Vesta its a horrid ship, its the most vile statement of a ship.
    I played from Open Beta and I still continue to play, during the first and second year of STO Tactical Captains where able to use Science Powers better than Science Captains who had spec'd their skills to that power.
    in turn cryptic down toned every skill that the Tactical Captains used... the Vesta just gives Tactical Captains the edge over true Science/Science Captains.

    as for the Armitage Escort Carrier, its a vile statement against the KDF, who continue to this day to recieve nothing. maybe a mirror ship in this box and mirror ship in that box.


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  • sudoku7sudoku7 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Not going to happen. They will rather sell new carrier in lockbox, than update existing ships....hence why there are dozens of obsolete ships.

    Fleet Upgrade.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    crashdragon wrote: »
    Good news everybody! Mom.........I mean BranFlakes has leaked out some plans for the new KDF Carrier.

    http://i46.tinypic.com/35kr38p.jpg

    And PW will supply a endless supply of bull...............eh..........Dark Anti-Matter fuel to wipe out and destroy the Federation, bring them to their knee's, rule them TO OUR NEED'S and while still in our pajamas!

    doesn't the dark anit-matter cost lobi though, and doesn't that ship have a fuel requirement?
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    "Fair"? :rolleyes:

    Then it would be fair if the KDF got:
    - a 5 tac console raptor
    - the equivalent of the Vesta
    - a c-store flight-deck escort
    - 3-4 science fleet ships

    As soon as the KDF gets this then it's fair for the Fed to get a new carrier. :)

    Indeed! The way the KDF is balanced against this by having the better toy consoles, easy and pain free Dil generation and faster (and more profitable Dil-wise) alt leveling has got to be fixed! Both sides should be equal from a game design standpoint.
  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    "Fair"? :rolleyes:

    Then it would be fair if the KDF got:
    - a 5 tac console raptor
    - the equivalent of the Vesta
    - a c-store flight-deck escort
    - 3-4 science fleet ships

    As soon as the KDF gets this then it's fair for the Fed to get a new carrier. :)

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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Here we go...

    Time to nom some popcorn.
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  • jcp26jcp26 Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    vestereng wrote: »
    Well the atrox is still the largest ship in the game so atrox > anything but true enough that's the one thing the atrox has going for it.

    More carriers I will always be down for just remember to let the atrox keep its place at the top.

    Since KDF has 2 carriers I guess it would be only fair if the feds got a new one.

    I am fairly certain the Dominion Dreadnaught is bigger than the Atrox.
  • warpedcorewarpedcore Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Either way, I'd love to see a Federation style carrier. Call it a mobile outpost, if you want. :P
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  • rachelj88rachelj88 Member Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    *sarcasm* why don't we just have a fly'able Earth Space Dock *end_sarcasm*


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  • jcp26jcp26 Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    crashdragon wrote: »
    Good news everybody! Mom.........I mean BranFlakes has leaked out some plans for the new KDF Carrier.

    http://i46.tinypic.com/35kr38p.jpg

    And PW will supply a endless supply of bull...............eh..........Dark Anti-Matter fuel to wipe out and destroy the Federation, bring them to their knee's, rule them TO OUR NEED'S and while still in our pajamas!

    First, it's "Good news everyone!". Second, will you KDF whiners stop complaining. Go back and watch every battle ever containing Klingons. You will see over a dozen different types of Federation vessels ranging from the small Defiant class to the massive Galaxy class. You will see three types of Klingon ships: Bird of Preys, Vor'chas and K't'ingas. Four if you count Negvars but only one of those was in service during the entire Dominion War and the others appeared in alternate timelines. Klingon starships are like Russian tanks, they pick a few designs (e.g. T34, Stalin II) and build as many of them as possible hoping to overwhelm their foes with superior numbers. If you want multiple ship classes, join the Federation. Klingons prefer quantity over variety. Watch DS9. You'll see what I am talking about.
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That's easy, its because a Starfleet vessel was the focal point of the series, not a KDF one and it was easier to build models of Starfleet ships than the Klingon ones. If we got a KDF-centric series, I imagine that a vast amount of new designs will pop up, especially with CGI now.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jcp26 wrote: »
    First, it's "Good news everyone!". Second, will you KDF whiners stop complaining. Go back and watch every battle ever containing Klingons. You will see over a dozen different types of Federation vessels ranging from the small Defiant class to the massive Galaxy class. You will see three types of Klingon ships: Bird of Preys, Vor'chas and K't'ingas. Four if you count Negvars but only one of those was in service during the entire Dominion War and the others appeared in alternate timelines. Klingon starships are like Russian tanks, they pick a few designs (e.g. T34, Stalin II) and build as many of them as possible hoping to overwhelm their foes with superior numbers. If you want multiple ship classes, join the Federation. Klingons prefer quantity over variety. Watch DS9. You'll see what I am talking about.

    First off, it's Birds of Prey.

    Secondly, one snapshot of one conflict, told from an entirely Federation-centric point of view with a limited effects budget, does not a comprehensive understanding of a battle doctrine, or a faction's entire arsenal make.
  • gornman47gornman47 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I only read the OP statement so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this...

    BUT I think a true carrier would be a Galaxy Class upgrade and maybe do justice to this proud class of ship once and for all.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gornman47 wrote: »
    I only read the OP statement so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this...

    BUT I think a true carrier would be a Galaxy Class upgrade and maybe do justice to this proud class of ship once and for all.

    Proud justice certainly DOES NOT mean a carrier :rolleyes:
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gornman47 wrote: »
    I only read the OP statement so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this...

    BUT I think a true carrier would be a Galaxy Class upgrade and maybe do justice to this proud class of ship once and for all.

    Unlikely.

    Why?

    You've already got the Gal-X and the refit (blanking on the name, Venture I think?).

    Plus, to mechanically make a Galaxy a carrier, one would have to both hollow out the saucer to make room for more than a token number of craft, and completely rework the access points. Even doing that, I don't think it would be plausible to see things like the Aquarius flying inside the hull of a Galaxy.

    Simply put, for a frigate launching Fed-side carrier, it's going to need to be something much larger, and a "less than standard" design.
  • artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    in my opinion this ship
    http://www.stowiki.org/Federation_Dreadnought
    can be slightly redesigned and reworked as a True Federation carrier.

    but thats just my opinion.

    it would be cool to use Defiant as a hanger bay pet
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You know what would also be fair? KDF having 50+ Unique Story Missions with mission rewards like the Coveriant Personal Shield, Overcharged Plasma Sniper, Flux Chronitons, Polarized Tetryon Beam Arrays. THAN we can talk about fair.
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  • warpedcorewarpedcore Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    rachelj88 wrote: »
    *sarcasm* why don't we just have a fly'able Earth Space Dock *end_sarcasm*


    RachelJ88

    Your sarcasm is unwarranted. I was referring to the excuse used for the USS Typhon, from Star Trek Invasion. The ship was referred to as, "a four nacelled Mobile Fortress/Carrier armed with Turret-mounted Type 10 Pulse Phasers and Quantum Torpedoes."

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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    warpedcore wrote: »
    Your sarcasm is unwarranted. I was referring to the excuse used for the USS Typhon, from Star Trek Invasion. The ship was referred to as, "a four nacelled Mobile Fortress/Carrier armed with Turret-mounted Type 10 Pulse Phasers and Quantum Torpedoes."

    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101009040004/startrek/images/1/19/Typhon_profile.jpg

    honestly in surprised the BSG IP holders didnt sue over that.... cause litterally it looks like a battlestar with nacelles on it....
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Jupiter Class.
    Please Cryptic.
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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    stark2k wrote: »

    We have the Artimage Flight Deck Carrier - A plus that competes against the KDF Orion Flight Deck Carrier. However; the Atrox is dead last in the true Carrier department in comparison to the KDF OFFICIAL Faction Carrier and the now Recluse Carrier.

    The Recluse is the superior Carrier out of three pound for pound.

    I am hoping that Cryptic releases an Official Federation of Planets Carrier that is on par with the Recluse and the KDF Carrier.

    Anytime you make a thread asking for Starfleet things based on the merit of fairness compared to the KDF, you automatically forfeit the thread.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I think they should convert the Jupiter class blimp to a playable Fed carrier.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    "Fair"? :rolleyes:

    Then it would be fair if the KDF got:
    - a 5 tac console raptor
    - the equivalent of the Vesta
    - a c-store flight-deck escort
    - 3-4 science fleet ships

    As soon as the KDF gets this then it's fair for the Fed to get a new carrier. :)

    How about levels 1-50? Then we can talk :D
    azniadeet wrote: »
    I think they should convert the Jupiter class blimp to a playable Fed carrier.

    You do realize if this happens I'm going to have to name it the Macon right? :P
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I must have missed the episodes where Starfleet personnel could wear uniforms from the Mirror Universe and prior centuries while flying other race's ships.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    zahinder wrote: »
    I must have missed the episodes where Starfleet personnel could wear uniforms from the Mirror Universe and prior centuries while flying other race's ships.

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