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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I am 100% on board with a KDF Major update and revision. Hopefully season 8 will be a good start on the matter.

    However;

    I also agree that the Federation should get an official carrier - since I stated before the Atrox is a horrid ship.

    I hate to recommend this but the Curry Class may be a good candidate - only thing is its one ugly @ss ship.

    http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Curry_class

    It can be made a true Federation Carrier with the option to have a saucer separation sequence.

    http://wiki.theninthfleet.com/images/a/a9/Curry-1.jpg

    I know its a heinous beast, but with Cryptic artists, they can transform it into a thing of beauty.
    You're right, it is hideous. I'd rather they use the Jupiter class for this.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    To sum it up in a single word, No. It will NEVER be time for a true, Federation, carrier. No place for carriers, of either faction, in Star Trek. Unfortunately, if Cryptic thinks they can beat a few nickels out of it, you might see Miss Alabama, flying around, naked, in a dune buggy.

    You say that as if seeing miss Alabama naked, flying or otherwise, is a bad thing.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You're right, it is hideous. I'd rather they use the Jupiter class for this.

    If it means the KDF get the Regents flagship, Im for it.
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    jcp26 wrote: »
    I am fairly certain the Dominion Dreadnaught is bigger than the Atrox.

    The first few hours it was released and everyone was sitting in their new ship all proud outside ESD, I used the oppertunity to parallel my ship over people several times.

    And from what I can tell they are equally wide, with the jem carrier having a longer hull - but the atrox is still the longest.

    Albeit it would be nice to just have some stats to read instead of doing eye meassurement from skewed camera angles.

    The atrox was my first ship and I still fly it for the simple reason it's the biggest ship and so it's actually a pretty big deal to me since I'd have to change ship if that changed.
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    With all the recent release in regards to carriers or flight deck Carrier, The Federation needs a true Carrier befitting of the name.

    Sure we have the Caitian Kitty Carrier and though they are part of the Federation, their vessel is not an official one.

    We have the Artimage Flight Deck Carrier - A plus that competes against the KDF Orion Flight Deck Carrier. However; the Atrox is dead last in the true Carrier department in comparison to the KDF OFFICIAL Faction Carrier and the now Recluse Carrier.

    The Recluse is the superior Carrier out of three pound for pound.

    I am hoping that Cryptic releases an Official Federation of Planets Carrier that is on par with the Recluse and the KDF Carrier.

    Give us a Typhon class type Carrier or something that resembles a true blue Carrier but wearing the Federation banner.

    It would be nice to expand on the Fighter selections as well as implement official Federation type bombers that pack a whallop against shields and armor.

    Hell something with a dive bomber formation or something, or strifing run formation.

    One word-no. Fed already got the klingon MK XII adapted sets and they are able to get the bio neural warhead through the lock box. Then you want your own star fleet style carrier on top of that? Just as everybody else has said, we'll talk fair when Klings can start at level 1 and we get at least 20-25 more story missions.

    If anybody deserves a carrier, it's the Feresans. We need a Ferasan Kitty sci Carrier that is arch nemesis of the atrox. Ferasan's don't have any uniquely ferasonian ships anyways.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    if It Means The Kdf Get The Regents Flagship, Im For It.
    Yess!!!! Want!!!! :D
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  • avarseiravarseir Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    knuhteb5 wrote: »

    If anybody deserves a carrier, it's the Feresans. We need a Ferasan Kitty sci Carrier that is arch nemesis of the atrox. Ferasan's don't have any uniquely ferasonian ships anyways.

    I'd rather they come up with Defiant-like escort with 5 tac console from the Ferasan. Just can't accept the idea of Ferasan being sociable, exploring and scientific race. They should be all about Claws and Fangs :)
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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Ah this brings me back to the days of when I got into forum wars with Katic....I miss her input.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Shortly before STO went into Beta, I designed THIS Federation Battlecarrier in response to the newly revealed Vo'Quv Carrier.

    Of course at the time Cryptic said "no" to Federation Carriers, but people liked my design, even if it did purposely have similarities to the Enterprise-J. :P


    Even though this picture is 4 years old, I can easily make an updated sketch giving her proper scaling and detail.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,880 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Would be nice if they made her good looking, or least a fleet Atrox.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,880 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    So you get 10% more hull, gain a 4th Eng console and continue to be useless?

    No...a 4th/5th console so I can be more powerful...maybe fit a fun console like the isometric charge.
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  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    stark2k wrote: »
    Give us a Typhon class type Carrier.....

    Anyone who bring up this ship:

    http://images.wikia.com/startrek/images/1/19/Typhon_profile.jpg

    Is ok in my book.

    Seriously do want Typhon-class. Was my favourite Trek game...
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    That's the thing, it's from another game. And the Devs pretty much said no that.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    TRIBBLE that. If you give us a Typhoon, please don't insult us by making it a carrier. Make it a bloody BATTLESHIP worthy of the name it bears. A typhoon doesn't destroy things with little pricks and death of a thousand paper cuts, it destroys things with gale force winds and massive floods causing catastrophic damage quickly and decisively. None of this little pew pew pew with fighters TRIBBLE.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    TRIBBLE that. If you give us a Typhoon, please don't insult us by making it a carrier. Make it a bloody BATTLESHIP worthy of the name it bears. A typhoon doesn't destroy things with little pricks and death of a thousand paper cuts, it destroys things with gale force winds and massive floods causing catastrophic damage quickly and decisively. None of this little pew pew pew with fighters TRIBBLE.

    +1 (actually, plus over 9000 - but more folks will get +1)
  • paneth48paneth48 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I dont mind if the feds get another carrier, however, all the older ones need to be brought in line with the newer ones, this 'Bigger and Better' thing thats happening with the lock boxes while old ships get neglected is really starting to tick me off, not only that but it looks sloppy as hell.

    also while we are at it, balance/fix the pets for both of these factions.

    Other than that, go carrier the universe I guess...

    Soon shuttles will launch shuttles lol
  • heresincebetaheresincebeta Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    vestereng wrote: »

    Since KDF has 2 carriers I guess it would be only fair if the feds got a new one.

    Yes.. because the KDF have all this cool stuff that hasn't been taken by the FEDs already.

    Just another attempt to eliminate the KDF altogether... *sigh*
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    So you get 10% more hull, gain a 4th Eng console and continue to be useless?

    I was thinking they could break the mold
    :eek: on the atrox, and give it a 3rd tactical slot, and a point or 2 to maneuverability instead of buffing the hull. That would give it a bit more of a competitive edge.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    All ships (except escorts/raiders) should have shuttle bays. It is canon.
    Carriers should be the only ones that allow frigates.
    Been saying that for 3 yrs.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So much Atrox hate.

    She might be the "worst" carrier, but she is in the running for the best sci ship, IMO. I prefer her to the Vesta until I feel like moving a bit faster for a while. Usually doesn't last and I want to go back to my 2xHangar bays.
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I love the atrox, I'd just like to be able to turn around in a minute or two. :P
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-point_turn

    Turning is not just about going forward at various speeds while leaning left or right.
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  • cmdrskyfallercmdrskyfaller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Shortly before STO went into Beta, I designed THIS Federation Battlecarrier in response to the newly revealed Vo'Quv Carrier.

    Of course at the time Cryptic said "no" to Federation Carriers, but people liked my design, even if it did purposely have similarities to the Enterprise-J. :P


    Even though this picture is 4 years old, I can easily make an updated sketch giving her proper scaling and detail.

    I like the concept Azurian.

    I sent you a friend's request so I could send you a PM. I have zero drawing skills but I do have a couple of suggestions for you. :)
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I disagree to a point. I agree that most of your offensive science powers are very difficult to use, as even with the three point turn around, it takes allot of time with the inertia the atrox has. It tends to deligate it into a healer role, which it can do, but not as well as an engineering vessel.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    The Atrox has just as many boff skill slots as any other ship, and compared to a ship with an ensign you get an upgraded skill. If the Atrox had a lt sci and a sci ens instead of the ltcom sci you would lose the ability to load a high end sci power. It is a buff, not a penalty.

    As for mobility, yes, you are less mobile. PvP I'm sure that would come into play. I don't bother with that mini game. PvE you can get your nose on things well enough for the split second it takes to fire off your frontals. Plenty of sci abilities can be used from any arc as well. I honestly have more problems landing my EWP then my front 90 abilities. Practice with turning I guess. You get used to her.

    Different strokes for different folks. Sometimes I want a faster ship, too. Those times I fly a faster ship.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Leading it to be something that just spawns pets, except Fed pets suck hard ... or should I say, there is a lack of light attack ships as the Vo'quv at least have the B'Rotlh Hangar and the Vo'quv have a little more teeth, at least it can fire a BO III and some higher level tactical abilities as the Atrox might as well not even equip weapons.


    Fed pets are kinda weak, but elite scorps are nice. They've taken up residence in both my Atrox and my Vesta.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,880 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I know its probably a pipe dream since it is from other ST games...but I would love it if they made a 25th century version of http://s353644097.websitehome.co.uk/arkroyal2202.jpg for a Starfleet true carrier.

    Now that I think about it...the Ark Royal does look kinda like a 23rd century Chimera...so would mean probably have no chance of seeing it.
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