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I fought and fought and fought some more to get to tier 5, hoping I could finally unlock some really cool MK XII set. I was EXTREMELY shocked to find out after all that work, how much those kits cost!!! Considering the difference from any other Mk, what's the point in investing in that?
I was expecting that because it requires borg processors, it would require less dilithium or marks. I even read somewhere on the forum that it was 8000 dil per component and 10 processors. THAT would have been reasonable.
Come on, this is just TOO persistent IMO. And now with dil-zen values being messed up, I wouldn't even consider 'paying' for dilithium.
THIS IS WHY people won't pay for this game.
I was expecting that because it requires borg processors, it would require less dilithium or marks. I even read somewhere on the forum that it was 8000 dil per component and 10 processors. THAT would have been reasonable.
Come on, this is just TOO persistent IMO. And now with dil-zen values being messed up, I wouldn't even consider 'paying' for dilithium.
THIS IS WHY people won't pay for this game.
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And yet I still see hundreds of thousands of zen on the exchange, and dozens (if not hundreds) of subscribers and lifers. So yeah, people obviously don't pay for this game.
Don't make it sound like I'm the only one, 'cause I'm not.
As for the Mk gear, I already had the MkXI Maco stuff from pre-season 7. The difference in performance from the MKXII does not make the massive cost worth the effort. Since I am about extra shield strength, my MKXII positron deflector off the market is better for me than the MACO equivalent. Only real advantage would be the extra hull points, and a graviton beam.
STO stopped being fun to play, and became a lets grind for the next kit item. In a matter of months.
Then why are you still playing ?
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
individual stats on the mk12 items are a lil bit better but its not significant enough to be worth all that grind effort unless you really have nothing else to do.
If the KHG bonus for example, was +25% to torpedo at Mk10, 30% bonus at Mk11 and 35% bonus at Mk12 then yeah itd be worth the grind.
But theyre all the same so.. no need to bother.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Now some people will ***** about how it took too long , maybe months to get one piece, but I would prefer to have that old system back. I enjoyed q'ing up for an STF knowing that there was the slightest chance I could leave there with a prototype borg salvage
Now with this rep system in place, this grindfest resource sink the bean counters over at PWE came up with is a joke. They are charging you not only your time everyday. but now they are asking you to fork over the large amounts of DIL, vendor/replicator items *Energy Credits*, and these marks...
You are being asked to pay for now what we used to get from simply putting our time into an STF, no matter how long it took, it was free. And it has to be done on every character...welcome to "PWE is forcing us into this time channel/resource sink show".
If you choose not to do it, you are cutting yourself off from these passive abilities, the chance to own MK XII MACO stuff, romulan stuff. I did the tier 5 grind on 1 of my 5 characters, and thats all that is going to happen. My other toons can live wtih elite fleet gear, because frankly, the fleet gear is better anyways..
What really makes me nervous is how Stahl wants to add more of this REP TRIBBLE later in the game...omg Please do not do this. Make the loot work like other MMO's. Chance for nice stuff to drop off bosses. or bring back our salvage.
i do agree the step up from XI to XII is minimal and XII gear could do with a boost but you dont have to pay for anything. play some elite STF's and you will gain enough resources in no time to buy the stuff you want.
Saying that someone could go for a year without an item is stupid. I have NEVER heard of someone going through an entire year without anything.
4 sets? Do you feel special knowing that you just spent large amounts of DIL and other resources for something you could have got for free other than time pre season 7? Lets face it, I am not the only one who agrees that the REP system is lame. Its a deliberate time/resource sink designed to keep people like you occupied while PWE sits back and laughs at the fact you think they actually created "new" content for you.
In order for that to happen, the RNG would have to HATE the player, period. And, that player must have only played 1 STF every 2 weeks on a wednesday.
Sorry, I do not agree with you But if you want to keep drinkin that PWE koolaid, then keep on forkin over that DIL and the ton of other resources you have into the current and future REP systems, that way you can reinforce PWE's opinion that the REP system is a success...
Wow, anyways now that I am done responding to stupid people, what is the next order of business?
Thanks for calling me stupid. it must make you feel special to be so insulting to people?
now onto your point. the XII gear was randomly dropped, and it was on specific STF missions. there were people, and i saw enough threads on it, complaining about how much they hated it and were not able to get the specific item they wanted. You could play a 1000 missions and not get the item you wanted as it was pure chance and that chance drop rate was so low.
This was supposed to have been addressed, no?
Jan 17th patch notes:
All Set Powers now scale with the set's Mark instead of using the player's level.
-This will result in a slight boost to Mk XI Set Powers, and a larger boost to Mk XII Set Powers.
-This change does not affect sets that are made up of items that do not have a level, such as the Aegis Space Set.
They drop as random rewards in normal as well, although the drop rate is pretty low as far as i can tell.
this is why this system is confusing and broken, top-quality, end-game gear should be obtainable only by playing end-game content (elite STFs in thins case). now if you see a pug on a mission, in full set, you can't be sure if he/she is a hardened vet, or just have a lot free time...
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
And I would prefer for you to toss your computer into the nearest dumpster. The old system was horrendous and not worth bringing back under any circumstances. The only things that should change with the current reputation system are having episodes handing out enough reputation that you can finish tier 1 by the time you hit the level cap, and making reputation account-wide (or at least account-wide on the same faction) instead of character specific. Or at the very least, making rep rewards bound to account and not bound to character.
Have to agree with this.
I miss Borg in a night. I miss Mk XI within a week or two. Without having to bother with folks thinking that an ESTF has to be completed under 5 minutes...
The new system...hrmm, I rerolled all four of my guys just before S7 (yeah, I kind of regret that - lol - but they were only a few weeks old anyway - still, they all had Borg or Mk XI sets)... here we are 2 months and 8 days later. None of them have any of the STF sets (it's silly to bother with the Mk X or Mk XI). Managed to get two to T4, two to T2... and I play so much less than I used to play.
I played for fun. I didn't play to login to a factory.
Yeah, the delay on the Mk X and XI stuff is annoying. I prefer the new system for getting high-end stuff, but the massive front-loading of effort for getting to that point brings out the merits of the old system... if we could contribute to the rep system while still leveling, that would probably help newbies immensely.
You know what? I sat down, did 5 or 6 STFs a day for a month and I got all mark XII pieces of MACO, Omega and KHG space sets in a matter of a month on all six characters I had at that time.
Now don't tell me it was impossible to get does sets.
SIX CHARACTERS!
IN A MATTER OF A MONTH!
TWO FULL MK XII SETS EACH!
It's clearly not a case of luck. You can say I was lucky those two times (and two times only) I got two set pieces during a day.
b) Noone forces you to grind for it.
c) profit
Really, where is the problem? One MKXII set is easily grinded in less than a month. If you don't want to grind, then take the fleet gear which can even be better.
Challenges are fun? And besides, where is the challenge on ESTF? They are easy.
MY FLEET:http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=498091
Whole Year my main toon Nothing Zip nada, I tired and i tried and i tired and then I tried ...then I stopped.
Officially Nerfed In Early 2410
Same here, I did 800 elite grounds and got ONE proto tech. That was with one toon and now after about a month I have all the ground sets and the adapted maco space and ground set. I really don't understand how anyone could prefer the old system to the current one. The only thing I would like to see is a reduction in the cost of the borg set, it should be much cheaper.
It's like hamsters getting angry because someone put a wheel in their cage.
omg that actually made me laugh audbily. Good job, sir.
Anyway. I have to agree. The prototype tech drops were unpredictable, and it took some people months to finally get what they wnated/needed, if not longer. The REP system gives a boost to these captains. And yeah, I know that you're upset because people are flying/walking around in MK XII gear and costumes that you mastered the game to get, but you know what, they've got more end-endgame gear coming, so you'll have other things you can walk around to show off your e-peen.
Until then let everyone have some fun however they want to. That's what playing a game is all about, right?