I think it'd be silly for them to go back and completely redo the Odyssey now after their much publicized contest and articles about the design in Trek magazine, and the Ent-F in game and now that it's been out for months, etc, etc.
However I do quite like this design. I think designers are often too conservative, too unwilling to break with Trek precedence when designing ships, so I like to see something a little crazier. I'd love to see this in-game, but as a new class.
They look like nacelles to me. You've been going on about how this isn't a "Trek" design and that no Trek fan would see it as such. Yet I and many others think it does.
There was no blue glow on the Connie either.
Dude, now I know you're trolling.
And BTW, both Consitutions did have blue glow with their nacelles. :rolleyes:
Um, no. The original Odyssey had red nacelles. The refit didn't really have colored nacelles because they completely redesigned the engines. It's the JJ Abrams Exeter class that has blue nacelles.
The Refit constitution class had blue on the inner side of the Nacels, but the Original didn't...well at least not on TV, but in many games it did, but not the TV show.
Second image is a screen cap from one of the episodes. I've watched TOS since the 70s. I have the entire series on DVD. There is no blue glow on the nacelles, so your assertion isn't correct.
I gotta agree with this, having watched the TOS dvds a lot
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
It's ugly. Looks like kitbash of D'Kyr, Intrepid (again) and Odyssey. With lot of lights on it.
There were far better designs in the Enterprise contests and Cryptic should use those. They already implemented one (current Chimera class). I would love to see Fuzzyprise in game.
I was watching a video (maybe linked in this thread?) with the evolution of warp drive visuals. There was one clip that had the inner side of the nacelles on a movie Constitution (rear view, don't know if it was 1701 or 1701-A) turn blue just before going to warp, leading me to believe they would only be blue at warp or the few seconds before / after.
It was very noticeable, and it was either intentional or a grievous error on the VFX people's parts.
Edit: I should also not that the image linked above doesn't have a very good view of the inner side of the nacelles, which is what glows blue. The outer sides are always black.
There were far better designs in the Enterprise contests and Cryptic should use those. They already implemented one (current Chimera class). I would love to see Fuzzyprise in game.
Nice, I never saw that "final draft" image. Looks good! I don't think it's quite Enterprise-ish (whatever that means for any individual person) but it is a sweet design.
Dude, you linked to a fanmade ship. Can't take you seriously when you do that you know.
Here shows the interior glow with the actual CGI model used in the Director's Cut for TMP. The physical model had the same.
The TOS remastered model had it too in the intercoolant region, but very faint. The original model did not have it.
Dude, you can't use the CGI models as examples. They did not exist when the ship was originally designed. Just go to the Smithsonian and you will see the engines as they were originally intended to look. Your examples are things that some computer nerd did decades after the fact to make the effects look more modern. I hate the fact that they did that, btw. The original Star Trek is a cult classic. It would be like reshooting Rocky Horror to make the lasers look more realistic or Eddy's death more gory. It takes away some of its charm.
my own 2 cents is that this actually looks way way better than the actual oddysey ingame.. i do not own an odyssey cause i do not think it was the most (enterprise) looking ship out of the contest.. i felt it got away from what the show and most games have been disigning towards (ie, no neck, uniboady design)..
i however would have bought this ship in a heart beat.. it is pretty sexy.. i also like the nod to vulcan design with the warp engines.. would make sense that if the federation (all species in the federation) were designing the ships, that some of these hints of other races would have been incorperated.. bravo to the person who redesigned the odyssey (belly clap) and hopefully someday we will see it ingame..
Those warp visuals contained just about every color in the rainbow too. You'll notice red/yellow/blue/green etc. depending on the film and what VFX shop handled the visuals for the film.
I was referring only to the nacelles. The color of the warp isn't relevant to much except looking cool. It was just very interesting how on that particular ship the nacelles only glowed right before going to warp, not the whole time.
Dude, you can't use the CGI models as examples. They did not exist when the ship was originally designed. Just go to the Smithsonian and you will see the engines as they were originally intended to look. Your examples are things that some computer nerd did decades after the fact to make the effects look more modern. I hate the fact that they did that, btw. The original Star Trek is a cult classic. It would be like reshooting Rocky Horror to make the lasers look more realistic or Eddy's death more gory. It takes away some of its charm.
Oh so official, non-fanmade, CGI models that were used in the remasteries, don't count? :rolleyes:
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However I do quite like this design. I think designers are often too conservative, too unwilling to break with Trek precedence when designing ships, so I like to see something a little crazier. I'd love to see this in-game, but as a new class.
Dude, now I know you're trolling.
And BTW, both Consitutions did have blue glow with their nacelles. :rolleyes:
Um, no. The original Odyssey had red nacelles. The refit didn't really have colored nacelles because they completely redesigned the engines. It's the JJ Abrams Exeter class that has blue nacelles.
Looks fugly even without all those damn lights.
Dude, you linked to a fanmade ship. Can't take you seriously when you do that you know.
Here shows the interior glow with the actual CGI model used in the Director's Cut for TMP. The physical model had the same.
The TOS remastered model had it too in the intercoolant region, but very faint. The original model did not have it.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Funny how you avoid admitting that the TMP Consitution and the Remastered TOS Cosnitution did have a blue warp glow.
But they don't count because the Original didn't. :rolleyes:
There were far better designs in the Enterprise contests and Cryptic should use those. They already implemented one (current Chimera class). I would love to see Fuzzyprise in game.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I was watching a video (maybe linked in this thread?) with the evolution of warp drive visuals. There was one clip that had the inner side of the nacelles on a movie Constitution (rear view, don't know if it was 1701 or 1701-A) turn blue just before going to warp, leading me to believe they would only be blue at warp or the few seconds before / after.
It was very noticeable, and it was either intentional or a grievous error on the VFX people's parts.
Edit: I should also not that the image linked above doesn't have a very good view of the inner side of the nacelles, which is what glows blue. The outer sides are always black.
Nice, I never saw that "final draft" image. Looks good! I don't think it's quite Enterprise-ish (whatever that means for any individual person) but it is a sweet design.
Dude, you can't use the CGI models as examples. They did not exist when the ship was originally designed. Just go to the Smithsonian and you will see the engines as they were originally intended to look. Your examples are things that some computer nerd did decades after the fact to make the effects look more modern. I hate the fact that they did that, btw. The original Star Trek is a cult classic. It would be like reshooting Rocky Horror to make the lasers look more realistic or Eddy's death more gory. It takes away some of its charm.
i however would have bought this ship in a heart beat.. it is pretty sexy.. i also like the nod to vulcan design with the warp engines.. would make sense that if the federation (all species in the federation) were designing the ships, that some of these hints of other races would have been incorperated.. bravo to the person who redesigned the odyssey (belly clap) and hopefully someday we will see it ingame..
I just want an Odyssey hull that doesnt look like a pregnant whale, maaaaaybe then Id consider buying one.
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i dont want to get involved. lol.. but it is also an artists rendering.. hahaha.. your both right, and your both wrong.. hows that hahaha..
I was referring only to the nacelles. The color of the warp isn't relevant to much except looking cool. It was just very interesting how on that particular ship the nacelles only glowed right before going to warp, not the whole time.
So am I. :rolleyes:
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Guess there was no blue nacelle glow even in TMP, oh wait! :rolleyes:
And the funny thing, this is not the remastered model, but the original movie. :P
Oh so official, non-fanmade, CGI models that were used in the remasteries, don't count? :rolleyes:
Yeah, nice try .