What's really getting to you Mewi? Afraid of getting your butt whooped in your underpowered pvp build or something? Not got enough EC's for better weapons or maybe you made mistakes allocating your skill points when You were a noob and now can't afford the Zen for a respec?
Like geez... get over yourself Wesley... or should I call you Sheldon? Cos tbh... you're really starting to sound like Sheldon Cooper! Move on and be thankful that we're getting something really awesome from Cryptic for FREE! They didn't have to give us this ya know? But they are! Quit your whining!
a vet ship with a sci LTC sloted looks more dangerous to me. down on hitpoints a tad but with a more useful, minmaxable station setup. a vet ship with a LTC eng is stupidly more dangerous.
you know im usually 1 of the first to screech and howl about something being op, but i just don't see it here. was it you that insisted the fleet patrol was on par with the bug ship? im still trying to figure that one out.
the truly OP ships are the ships that do 1 thing well, that are further buffed to do that 1 thing well even more. the bug ship and recluse being the best at dilivering damage and healing damage respectivly, and the most OP in their field.
this ship looses what makes an escort do its thing well, and lets it do other things pretty good in exchange. in the end your left with something closer to mediocre then op. i see this as a fun ship that will fit my preferences well, a ship that can do most of everything, but not be a standout at any one thing. its not that at all. the 10 consoles, 8 weapons, its sorta needs that to be competitive really.
i mean, this ship cant even use 2 AtB. if it could, like the tac LT was a 2nd eng LT, then HOLY TRIBBLE ITS OP, with tech doffs.
Nah it was me, that said a fleet patrol can keep up with a bug ship, not defeat it. But the argument there was, they were greatly underating that ship, I love my fleet patrol ship. Most of the things in that thread were pure lies, written by people with little experience or care to actually view the stats of Fleet Patrol, but that is a thing of the past regardless.
But lets argue that the vet ship is overpowered and should be nerfed, lets say it got nerfed, then what would you say? and that console greatly concerns me... you know how smart Cryptic is with new skills and how slow they are to fix them.
What's really getting to you Mewi? Afraid of getting your butt whooped in your underpowered pvp build or something? Not got enough EC's for better weapons or maybe you made mistakes allocating your skill points when You were a noob and now can't afford the Zen for a respec?
Like geez... get over yourself Wesley... or should I call you Sheldon? Cos tbh... you're really starting to sound like Sheldon Cooper! Move on and be thankful that we're getting something really awesome from Cryptic for FREE! They didn't have to give us this ya know? But they are! Quit your whining!
It's kinda who she is Anything Cryptic does wrong in her opinion, she'll be there to say something about it... then apparently selectively ignores the good parts (like when she was absent at the Winter Event blog), or anything she has no answer to
All of which is just my observations. She's definitely good at PvP, but that seems to be all she cares about... at least I think it is; I haven't seen her have any real interest in other things yet.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I am surprised it is as powerful as it is, basically fleet ship level for free.
Seriously, Cryptic. Why bother calling it Starfleet anymore? Not too take the fun out for those who like the ship in general, but how about releasing some actual STARFLEET ships with those stats once in a while? Or KDF for the other side?
We can't be far from Jem'Hadar, Cardassian, Ferengi, Tholian, Breen and Future Time Agencies outnumbering Starfleet and KDF now, if they don't already...
It's kinda who she is Anything Cryptic does wrong in her opinion, she'll be there to say something about it... then apparently selectively ignores the good parts (like when she was absent at the Winter Event blog), or anything she has no answer to
All of which is just my observations. She's definitely good at PvP, but that seems to be all she cares about... at least I think it is; I haven't seen her have any real interest in other things yet.
I have other interests in this game, like new episodes, better fashion, more alien customization, trait reset ( pvp related I guess and should of been here by now according to Stahl, but Ill take it as yet another lie )
Ship Customization features, and most of all, bug fixes, balance corrections, and a MUCH BETTER plot.
Edit: By the way I did respond to the winter event forum posts, I just didn't have enough data to go on them, although I did mention several times that they will put a zen/dilithium price on all of the upcoming content that means anything, and no dev/mod came to dispute it, so get ready.
PS: and the death of Dilithium and any form of exchange for shop store currency functions which is the main reason why we have been gouged to death in every new/updated gameplay addition they are trying to compete with their own system, which means they are intentionally fixing the system against us, and for them.
I have other interests in this game, like new episodes, better fashion, more alien customization, trait reset ( pvp related I guess and should of been here by now according to Stahl, but Ill take it as yet another lie )
Ship Customization features, and most of all, bug fixes, balance corrections, and a MUCH BETTER plot.
PS: and the death of Dilithium and any form of exchange for shop store currency functions which is the main reason why we have been gouged to death in every new/updated gameplay addition they are trying to compete with their own system, which means they are intentionally fixing the system against us, and for them.
You know, there is a grey area between truth and lies :P It's not just one or the other, or in other words, not just black and white (plus you know full well things get pushed back, and that Cryptic consistently overpromises things)
And 'much better' plot is entirely subjective too XD
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
You know, there is a grey area between truth and lies :P It's not just one or the other, or in other words, not just black and white (plus you know full well things get pushed back, and that Cryptic consistently overpromises things)
And 'much better' plot is entirely subjective too XD
I could say I'll pay you tomorrow, but then oh no I got no money to pay you, Ill pay you the next day, then the next, then the next for the next three months or more. Does that mean I am inbetween the grey area of the truth, or just a liar and a thief?
Subjective? If by subjective you mean... most players consider the STO plot horrid... then yeah, it is subjective.
Not going to lie, I'm a little disappointed with the layout of the ship. We haven't had any good Science cruisers in quite awhile and this seemed like a good chance to put one in. The design doesn't quite make sense to me either, it's an escort with 8 weapons and science bias. It outguns even the best klingon battlecruiser with it's commander tac slot... I just have no idea what it's supposed to be balanced against.
Honestly, I would have preferred:
Consoles: Eng 4, Tac3, Sci3
Eng Com, Sci LtCom, Tac Lt, Sci LT, Uni Ens
Cruiser level stats
Tactically stronger then the average science cruiser, but still capable in combat. This is just broken.
I could say I'll pay you tomorrow, but then oh no I got no money to pay you, Ill pay you the next day, then the next, then the next for the next three months or more. Does that mean I am inbetween the grey area of the truth, or just a liar and a thief?
Subjective? If by subjective you mean... most players consider the STO plot horrid... then yeah, it is subjective.
I said there was a grey area; not that the grey area was clearly defined. By what I've seen of your posts, you consider there to be no grey area, while the rest of us have varying boundaries of it.
Most people would consider your example to be the latter; a liar and a thief. I wouldn't mind, personally, and just get my money another way
Plus, you can't claim that most players think it's horrid without actually getting to know each person's opinion For example, I like the plot, nothing more and nothing less.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I said there was a grey area; not that the grey area was clearly defined. By what I've seen of your posts, you consider there to be no grey area, while the rest of us have varying boundaries of it.
Most people would consider your example to be the latter; a liar and a thief. I wouldn't mind, personally, and just get my money another way
So the CNN procedure continues? No one is a liar, it is all opinions? The facts are just a side dish to the grey area of not wanting to make people uncomfortable with the actual truth?
So the CNN procedure continues? No one is a liar, it is all opinions? The facts are just a side dish to the grey area of not wanting to make people uncomfortable with the actual truth?
Facts are diluated by opinions and views anyway; there never usually is one central opinion, except in generalization
At least, for me it seems that way. And I'm okay with that
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
No wonder why you find it difficult to dispute anything Cryptic does n.n
My view of the world is mostly 'go with the flow', and I like it that way Much less stress; just enjoy things I like as they come along, and stay out of the way (mostly; I have a weakness against opinions like yours, that are against the flow)
I could dispute Cryptic's decisions, but I choose not to None of them have angered me, or annoyed me, or anything like that, so why bother?
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
My view of the world is mostly 'go with the flow', and I like it that way Much less stress that way; just enjoy things I like as they come along, and stay out of the way (mostly; I have a weakness against opinions like yours, that are against the flow)
I could dispute Cryptic's decisions, but I choose not to None of them have angered me, or annoyed me, or anything like that, so why bother?
I don't want STO to die to Stahl and PWE's style of greed. I expect all companies to have greed, but this is so far over the top I can't just sit and shrug it off, I gotta vent the annoyance somewhere, where maybe.. by some magical final fantasy style chance, where they'd read it and acknowledge the problem(s) see I have hope ;3 I just hide it in the absolute disgust for their business practices.
No wonder why you find it difficult to dispute anything Cryptic does n.n
Would you prefer Trek21 and the rest of us be like you and dispute everything that Cryptic does that is not within your own personal preference and/or taste? I don't think we can accommodate you here...
So... there's a perfect community I can think of where you'd fit right in Mewi... It's called the Borg Collective! You'd be very happy there cos everyone will think and feel EXACTLY the same way you do about EVERYTHING!
Nah it was me, that said a fleet patrol can keep up with a bug ship, not defeat it. But the argument there was, they were greatly underating that ship, I love my fleet patrol ship. Most of the things in that thread were pure lies, written by people with little experience or care to actually view the stats of Fleet Patrol, but that is a thing of the past regardless.
But lets argue that the vet ship is overpowered and should be nerfed, lets say it got nerfed, then what would you say? and that console greatly concerns me... you know how smart Cryptic is with new skills and how slow they are to fix them.
If you knew my status in PvP, you wouldn't be asking me those questions.
a fleet patrol can tank as well, as in receive damage and live, but it cant fly as fast, hit as hard, or have the on target up time thanks in large to its turn rate that the bug ship has. there is quite a large difference between the 2 as a result.
the vet ships are already basically nerfed, with 9 consoles wile also needing 1 for its special, its got only 8 to work with really. also the .9 and .83 shield mod. they are not fleet ship level as a result, and that sort of balances them. borticus posted about the console in the pvp section, its target able and clear able with ET. it doesn't look to over the top.
Would you prefer Trek21 and the rest of us be like you and dispute everything that Cryptic does that is not within your own personal preference and/or taste?
If so... there's a perfect community I can think of where you'd fit right in Mewi... It's called the Borg Collective! You'd be very happy there cos everyone will think and feel EXACTLY the same way you do about EVERYTHING!
a fleet patrol can tank as well, as in receive damage and live, but it cant fly as fast, hit as hard, or have the on target up time thanks in large to its turn rate that the bug ship has. there is quite a large difference between the 2 as a result.
the vet ships are already basically nerfed, with 9 consoles wile also needing 1 for its special, its got only 8 to work with really. also the .9 and .83 shield mod. they are not fleet ship level as a result, and that sort of balances them. borticus posted about the console in the pvp section, its target able and clear able with ET. it doesn't look to over the top.
Then let us just leave it to time and pray that we don't have another repulser style death bomb. The ship stat/slot wise, no matter how you look at it, is unbalanced. I can't see how you can argue against that.
You ignored his post entirely to focus on 'Projection 101'. And also, sorta how you've ignored half of my posts here on this thread, that were aimed at you
Not really significant by itself, more an interesting observation.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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Like geez... get over yourself Wesley... or should I call you Sheldon? Cos tbh... you're really starting to sound like Sheldon Cooper! Move on and be thankful that we're getting something really awesome from Cryptic for FREE! They didn't have to give us this ya know? But they are! Quit your whining!
Nah it was me, that said a fleet patrol can keep up with a bug ship, not defeat it. But the argument there was, they were greatly underating that ship, I love my fleet patrol ship. Most of the things in that thread were pure lies, written by people with little experience or care to actually view the stats of Fleet Patrol, but that is a thing of the past regardless.
But lets argue that the vet ship is overpowered and should be nerfed, lets say it got nerfed, then what would you say? and that console greatly concerns me... you know how smart Cryptic is with new skills and how slow they are to fix them.
If you knew my status in PvP, you wouldn't be asking me those questions.
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All of which is just my observations. She's definitely good at PvP, but that seems to be all she cares about... at least I think it is; I haven't seen her have any real interest in other things yet.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Seriously, Cryptic. Why bother calling it Starfleet anymore? Not too take the fun out for those who like the ship in general, but how about releasing some actual STARFLEET ships with those stats once in a while? Or KDF for the other side?
We can't be far from Jem'Hadar, Cardassian, Ferengi, Tholian, Breen and Future Time Agencies outnumbering Starfleet and KDF now, if they don't already...
Kinda makes me throw up a little, tbh.
The questions were rhetorical actually... Or didn't you get that? (again, that is a rhetorical question incase you didn't grasp that fact)
I have other interests in this game, like new episodes, better fashion, more alien customization, trait reset ( pvp related I guess and should of been here by now according to Stahl, but Ill take it as yet another lie )
Ship Customization features, and most of all, bug fixes, balance corrections, and a MUCH BETTER plot.
Edit: By the way I did respond to the winter event forum posts, I just didn't have enough data to go on them, although I did mention several times that they will put a zen/dilithium price on all of the upcoming content that means anything, and no dev/mod came to dispute it, so get ready.
PS: and the death of Dilithium and any form of exchange for shop store currency functions which is the main reason why we have been gouged to death in every new/updated gameplay addition they are trying to compete with their own system, which means they are intentionally fixing the system against us, and for them.
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And 'much better' plot is entirely subjective too XD
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I could say I'll pay you tomorrow, but then oh no I got no money to pay you, Ill pay you the next day, then the next, then the next for the next three months or more. Does that mean I am inbetween the grey area of the truth, or just a liar and a thief?
Subjective? If by subjective you mean... most players consider the STO plot horrid... then yeah, it is subjective.
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Honestly, I would have preferred:
Consoles: Eng 4, Tac3, Sci3
Eng Com, Sci LtCom, Tac Lt, Sci LT, Uni Ens
Cruiser level stats
Tactically stronger then the average science cruiser, but still capable in combat. This is just broken.
Oh yeaaa... They're reaaallly fixing the system against us players who pay their wages! That really makes sense! :rolleyes:
That is a joke a right?
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Most people would consider your example to be the latter; a liar and a thief. I wouldn't mind, personally, and just get my money another way
Plus, you can't claim that most players think it's horrid without actually getting to know each person's opinion
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
If you see sarcasm as "joking", then yea... you could say that. DUH Sheldon!
So the CNN procedure continues? No one is a liar, it is all opinions? The facts are just a side dish to the grey area of not wanting to make people uncomfortable with the actual truth?
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At least, for me it seems that way. And I'm okay with that
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
No wonder why you find it difficult to dispute anything Cryptic does n.n
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I was actually going to suggest they get a room, but thought better of it
I could dispute Cryptic's decisions, but I choose not to
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I don't want STO to die to Stahl and PWE's style of greed. I expect all companies to have greed, but this is so far over the top I can't just sit and shrug it off, I gotta vent the annoyance somewhere, where maybe.. by some magical final fantasy style chance, where they'd read it and acknowledge the problem(s) see I have hope ;3 I just hide it in the absolute disgust for their business practices.
teehee
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Would you prefer Trek21 and the rest of us be like you and dispute everything that Cryptic does that is not within your own personal preference and/or taste? I don't think we can accommodate you here...
So... there's a perfect community I can think of where you'd fit right in Mewi... It's called the Borg Collective! You'd be very happy there cos everyone will think and feel EXACTLY the same way you do about EVERYTHING!
a fleet patrol can tank as well, as in receive damage and live, but it cant fly as fast, hit as hard, or have the on target up time thanks in large to its turn rate that the bug ship has. there is quite a large difference between the 2 as a result.
the vet ships are already basically nerfed, with 9 consoles wile also needing 1 for its special, its got only 8 to work with really. also the .9 and .83 shield mod. they are not fleet ship level as a result, and that sort of balances them. borticus posted about the console in the pvp section, its target able and clear able with ET. it doesn't look to over the top.
Projection 101
Then let us just leave it to time and pray that we don't have another repulser style death bomb. The ship stat/slot wise, no matter how you look at it, is unbalanced. I can't see how you can argue against that.
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Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
So on other Breen ships you say...if there is going to add more Breen ships.....http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Capital_Ship I would like
http://www.stowiki.org/Bleth_Choas_Fighter and some of these, as they always reminded me of Cylon raiders.
What.. are you talking about?
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Not really significant by itself, more an interesting observation.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.