Getting the Vesta?Nope....not going to waste my money on a ship that will become obsolete the moment they release the Andorian Battleship.
It will have perfect shields,50K hull,MK XIV Heavy Quad Cannons with a 180 degree firing arc,5 forward and 5 aft weapon slots,10 console slots,Commander and Lt.Commander universal stations,ablative armor,a turnrate of 14 and 2 hangar bays with Andorian frigates.
Buying the Vesta.....BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA....that's funny as hell!:D
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Getting the Vesta?Nope....not going to waste my money on a ship that will become obsolete the moment they release the Andorian Battleship.
It will have perfect shields,50K hull,MK XIV Heavy Quad Cannons with a 180 degree firing arc,5 forward and 5 aft weapon slots,10 console slots,Commander and Lt.Commander universal stations,ablative armor,a turnrate of 14 and 2 hangar bays with Andorian frigates.
Buying the Vesta.....BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA....that's funny as hell!:D
Getting the Vesta?Nope....not going to waste my money on a ship that will become obsolete the moment they release the Andorian Battleship.
It will have perfect shields,50K hull,MK XIV Heavy Quad Cannons with a 180 degree firing arc,5 forward and 5 aft weapon slots,10 console slots,Commander and Lt.Commander universal stations,ablative armor,a turnrate of 14 and 2 hangar bays with Andorian frigates.
Buying the Vesta.....BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA....that's funny as hell!:D
I second that motion...why waste money and make Cryptic rich by focussing in design rather than content. I dont care if my ship looks like a bucket as long as the hull, ability to entertain higher DPS and more slots to park my hangar I'm happier....I would wait for the colossal Andorian Battleship as well...I aint drunk enough to waste precious money nor dilithium like that...where's the andorian ale
really love the visuals
really like what they did with the pay 2 win consoles
really HATE the sci heavy stats
only 6 weapon slots, cmdr sci boff slot (i HATE those crowd control abilities) ...and that for all 3 variants? *argh*
that screams Zombie cruiser to me... will never die and never do any damage.
and crowd control can go frak itself.
i'm sitting on 11000 Zen and i'm itching for something to buy, but i won't buy pure SCI ships (also skipped the Wells class because of its sci heavy stats), sorry, doesn't make sense for me to buy if i hate playing them
I want to see it full view to see what it looks like. I'm in the market for a larger ship for my Fed captain. So this could be a consideration. However if the Ambassador comes out via store or mission. That will be my ship.
I'm still waiting for something for KDF as well.
Now later when I do my Tactical captain. I might consider it for that one. The chances increased on me buying it. But for now I only have a Eng captain that I hadn't finished yet.
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It be fun if the cloaking device, MVAM, and PPDT are a "console set". MVAM allows the FTER to fire its nose warhead at the enemy, while it gets the FHEC saucer sep. And now all 3 can cloak and spam photons in all directions!
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It be fun if the cloaking device, MVAM, and PPDT are a "console set". MVAM allows the FTER to fire its nose warhead at the enemy, while it gets the FHEC saucer sep. And now all 3 can cloak and spam photons in all directions!
just noticed
'Mark XII Auxiliary Dual Heavy Phaser Cannon. This cannon is designed to utilize Auxiliary power instead of Weapon power.'
thats evil
For a moment I had a mini RAGE!!! Since these would appear better than the Quads. Except they are probably one per ship. The problem is instantly clear, if you're running full AUX for Sci Magic then you will only really good damage out of this one DHC, while the other 5 weapons will be very "meh". And if you run a max weapon power setup your Aux won't be very high at all, so this one weapon will be very "meh" and you'd be better off with a normal weapon.
Unless of course it actually works differently, but that's what i've figured out about it so far... its only really usefull on a high Aux ship, serving to up your damage a little since your other weapons won;t be at full power.
90% of Vesta's sold will never see PvP - so why should they nerf a ship that would TRIBBLE off 90% of it's customers? That does not make much business sense.
LOL! Do you really think 90% of the Fed playerbase would get so ugly a ship?
LOL! Do you really think 90% of the Fed playerbase would get so ugly a ship?
First off I think this is the one of the BEST ships yet! There are some things I would like - More Hull being pretty much it, but other than that she is a BEAUTY.
That said you missed my point - that most people who buy her will never take her into PvP - This is one of the reasons that I have been asking to make her OP for a long time if they want a HUGE sales winner: People buy over-powered things never to use them to their full potential - it applies in almost every thing that is sold. People buy a Intel I7 processor and 16 GB of ram and 2 gb graphics card just to surf the web - and the PC companies know full well that a large group of people do this - that is like hitting a fly with a sledgehammer. Take any man and tools - you don't want the 12.4v drill if the 18v is similar size and weight - even if you plan to just use it to put in screws. Next i could go into Horsepower - but you get the idea.
Bottom line people will buy something with more power just because it has more power and is therefore - better - but never use that extra power.
Cryptic: Leave her AS IS or at least increase things - if you want a huge sales winner. Taking stuff away once released is a bad sales strategy just to appease a tiny tiny group of people that most say won't get her anyways.
Cryptic: Leave her AS IS or at least increase things - if you want a huge sales winner. Taking stuff away once released is a bad sales strategy just to appease a tiny tiny group of people that most say won't get her anyways.
The majority can't even understand a balance pass nor comprehend the changes, so why does it matter if it gets balanced for PvP?
PvE in this game is so easy that you can sleepwalk through most of the content.
So even if the ship takes into account the only worthwhile content (PvP) when being balanced, the average person will still find it awesome.
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It will have perfect shields,50K hull,MK XIV Heavy Quad Cannons with a 180 degree firing arc,5 forward and 5 aft weapon slots,10 console slots,Commander and Lt.Commander universal stations,ablative armor,a turnrate of 14 and 2 hangar bays with Andorian frigates.
Buying the Vesta.....BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA....that's funny as hell!:D
Take back your home,end the grind!
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My thoughts exactly.
can you predict that happening anytime soon
i dont think soooo
I second that motion...why waste money and make Cryptic rich by focussing in design rather than content. I dont care if my ship looks like a bucket as long as the hull, ability to entertain higher DPS and more slots to park my hangar I'm happier....I would wait for the colossal Andorian Battleship as well...I aint drunk enough to waste precious money nor dilithium like that...where's the andorian ale
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really like what they did with the pay 2 win consoles
really HATE the sci heavy stats
only 6 weapon slots, cmdr sci boff slot (i HATE those crowd control abilities) ...and that for all 3 variants? *argh*
that screams Zombie cruiser to me... will never die and never do any damage.
and crowd control can go frak itself.
i'm sitting on 11000 Zen and i'm itching for something to buy, but i won't buy pure SCI ships (also skipped the Wells class because of its sci heavy stats), sorry, doesn't make sense for me to buy if i hate playing them
and was sooo looking forward to this one *hmpf*
I'm still waiting for something for KDF as well.
Now later when I do my Tactical captain. I might consider it for that one. The chances increased on me buying it. But for now I only have a Eng captain that I hadn't finished yet.
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But I'm not spending another dime on a ship until the KDF gets a release.:rolleyes: MAYBE I'll purchase it afterwards.
You know what's missing? A triple pack for escorts that allows them to battle cloak, phaser lance, and overload cannons.
Another 50 bucks, coming soon.
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Ummm , no .
I'll take me about 100 days to refine the dil needed. I'll get it next year! LOL
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Also a lot of folks picking up the ships should help inject some cash into the game.
I do hope not!!!! :eek:
I was jesting. There is no canon ship for that role and I am glad for that!
Good escorts are all in the Starbase, and I think that's enough.
*pats FTER, FAE, FHEC*
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Either way I wouldn't push it. :P
Hmm...
It be fun if the cloaking device, MVAM, and PPDT are a "console set". MVAM allows the FTER to fire its nose warhead at the enemy, while it gets the FHEC saucer sep. And now all 3 can cloak and spam photons in all directions!
"Last Engage! Magical Girl Origami-san" is in print! Now with three times more rainbows.
Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!
Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
This just suddenly make me think of a giant nasal booger blob flying at an enemy ship...ROFLMAO.
Sorry my mind is in a weird place right now.... LOL
I would never play again......
For a moment I had a mini RAGE!!! Since these would appear better than the Quads. Except they are probably one per ship. The problem is instantly clear, if you're running full AUX for Sci Magic then you will only really good damage out of this one DHC, while the other 5 weapons will be very "meh". And if you run a max weapon power setup your Aux won't be very high at all, so this one weapon will be very "meh" and you'd be better off with a normal weapon.
Unless of course it actually works differently, but that's what i've figured out about it so far... its only really usefull on a high Aux ship, serving to up your damage a little since your other weapons won;t be at full power.
LOL! Do you really think 90% of the Fed playerbase would get so ugly a ship?
just as bad saying noone will buy it as saying everyone will buy it
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U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
Read the post again. That's not what he's referring too.
Anyone know if you'll be able to test it out on tribble after the ship is released before purchase?
First off I think this is the one of the BEST ships yet! There are some things I would like - More Hull being pretty much it, but other than that she is a BEAUTY.
That said you missed my point - that most people who buy her will never take her into PvP - This is one of the reasons that I have been asking to make her OP for a long time if they want a HUGE sales winner: People buy over-powered things never to use them to their full potential - it applies in almost every thing that is sold. People buy a Intel I7 processor and 16 GB of ram and 2 gb graphics card just to surf the web - and the PC companies know full well that a large group of people do this - that is like hitting a fly with a sledgehammer. Take any man and tools - you don't want the 12.4v drill if the 18v is similar size and weight - even if you plan to just use it to put in screws. Next i could go into Horsepower - but you get the idea.
Bottom line people will buy something with more power just because it has more power and is therefore - better - but never use that extra power.
Cryptic: Leave her AS IS or at least increase things - if you want a huge sales winner. Taking stuff away once released is a bad sales strategy just to appease a tiny tiny group of people that most say won't get her anyways.
The majority can't even understand a balance pass nor comprehend the changes, so why does it matter if it gets balanced for PvP?
PvE in this game is so easy that you can sleepwalk through most of the content.
So even if the ship takes into account the only worthwhile content (PvP) when being balanced, the average person will still find it awesome.
I find that rather entertaining.